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jeff
08-25-2002, 18:19
As I sit here with my glass of Old Forester 86, I somehow can't get my mind off of beer http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif I am wanting to know what the bourbon experts out there are drinking when they aren't drinking bourbon? My favorites include: Guiness Draught, Beck's dark, Dixie's Blackened Voodoo, Samuel Adam's Boston Lager, Bass Ale, Amber Bock and an assortment of other dark beers.

**DONOTDELETE**
08-25-2002, 20:22
OK Jeff! I like Pilsner Urquel the best, but it's nearly impossible to find. Beck's blonde, & Saint Pauli Girl. For American beer I like good ol' Old Milwaukee and plain old regular Coors. I like a beer that drinks easy. Porters; Stouts and heavy ales aren't my style.

texascarl
08-25-2002, 21:40
Guiness Draught Stout in the fridge. I'm on a diet and Guiness draught is relatively low-carb, thanks to it's nitro-can...more carbs than Miller Lite, but worth every one of 'em.

For the past year or 2 I've limited my beer drinkin'...in that spirit I really like BIG cold 20 oz bottles of Pilsner Urquell or Fishers La Belle, or an ice cold oil-can of Fosters Bitter. "Hey, I only had ONE beer". One great big giant beer. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

bluesbassdad
08-25-2002, 22:56
Life is ever full of wonder.

I would have bet just about anything that no self-respecting bourbon drinker would go for the lighter beers, especially not Colorado Kool-Aid. I'm just glad I didn't have the opportunity to bet. I might be without a house and a dog by now.

Personally, I don't stick with any one beer very long at one stretch, but there are a few that I keep coming back to, Bass ale, Guinness (draft only), Anderson Valley Boont Amber, Eye of the Hawk ale and Black Hawk stout (Mendicino Brewing Co.), and Hazelnut Brown Nectar (Rogue Ales).

If someone else is buying, I like 'em all. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Well, almost all.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Aahzz
08-26-2002, 06:05
I vary a bit, but I tend to like English/Irish/Scots Ales and Stouts. Some favorites include Bass, Guinness, Hobgoblin, Bellhaven Wee Heavy, Old Speckled Hen, Newcastle, and Tanner's Jack. Currently, as I'm on a diet, I'm mostly drinking Sam Adams Light, as it's the only light beer I've found that tastes somewhat like a real beer.

Winslow
08-26-2002, 06:52
I also like Sam Adamís Boston Lager, Jeff. I used to be able to get Adamís Scotch Ale, which was all I bought when it was on the shelf. Adamís Cream Stout is wonderful. It is one of the few stouts I'll drink. I find most, particularly Guiness, to be just too flat which is, I know, how they're supposed to be. Adamís Cream Stout almost reminds me more of a Porter, which I really like. Sierra Nevada Porter is one of the best. Chicago Honkers Ale is good. I had a Dixie something or other at a bar several years ago and liked it. I also like a lot of the Red Hook ales. God, I used to be able to get Red Hook Double Black Stout, which was made with Starbucks coffee. MMMMMM good. That was another stout that I liked.

I find most American beers simply unpalatable. After you've experienced good micro brews, it's impossible to go back. If I must, it's usually good old BUD!

jbutler
08-26-2002, 08:27
I'm real fond of Heineken as my "daily drinker". I've got 2 cases of it out in the garage refrigerator. Every time it goes on sale I buy some. The problem is that I don't drink it anywhere near as fast as I buy it ... it's just too hard for me to pass up a cheap 12 pack of that stuff. What the hell, I suppose I could have much more serious issues http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

Overall, my tastes are much like Linn's in this regard. Pilsner Urquell, Heineken, St. Pauli Girl, etc.

For an IPA, I usually choose Mendocino Brewing Co's Blue Heron. Yumm!

ratcheer
08-26-2002, 16:35
My very top favorite is (usually) Bass Ale. I also enjoy Sam Adams, Pilsner Urqell, and Dos Equis. Hell, I even enjoy Coors and Budweiser.

My favorite Ben Franklin quote: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

Tim

texascarl
08-26-2002, 17:28
I really enjoy Blue Heron Pale Ale, wish they sold it out here.

MurphyDawg
08-26-2002, 23:59
Top 10 Beers:


1) Cadillac Mt. Stout (Bar Harbor Brewing, Bar Harbor ME)
2)Harpoon ESB (Boston, MA)
3) Honker's Ale (Goose Island Brewing, Chicago ILL)
4) Otter Creek Octoberfest (Middlebury, VT)
5)Oatmeal Stout (Mill City Brewing, Lowell MA)
6)Guinness Draught (On Tap Only, the canned stuff is BAD!)
7)Nut Brown Ale (Columbus Brewing Co., Coulumbus, Ohio)
8)The Eliot Ness Lager (Great Lakes Brewing, Cleveland, OH)
9)Old GollyWobbler Ale (Sea Dog Brewing, Bangor ME)
10)Old Brown Dog Ale (Smuttynose Brewing, Portsmouth NH)

I am a bit of a beer buff along with liking bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif


TomC

MurphyDawg
08-27-2002, 00:01
Do they sell that nationally jim?? the only IPA I have tried is Harpoon IPA and I want something to compare it too. . .


TomC

MurphyDawg
08-27-2002, 00:06
Dave Says : "especially not Colorado Kool-Aid"

Shit man i about fell out of my chair laughing!! thats the funnies way I have ever heard anyone refer too that stuff!



TOMC

PS I am so jealous, I have been wanting to sample the Rogue Ales line for awhile now but they don't sell them this far east.

jeff
08-27-2002, 03:36
Second that on the Guiness. Its like it isn't even the same beer. I do prefer the bottled stout to the canned draught though.

jbutler
08-27-2002, 08:57
Looks like they sell it in Ohio Tom. Have a look here: http://www.mendobrew.com/cgi-bin/mendobrew/locator.cgi?state=OH

bluesbassdad
08-27-2002, 15:12
At first glance it appears that you and I each show a strong regional bias in our lists of favorite beers. All of my US-produced choices are made on the west coast; all of yours are east of the Mississippi River. These facts caused me to go limping down another trail of nostalgia.

I'm guessing that the real reason for our differences is that specialty beers just don't have the national distribution that would allow Old GollyWobbler Ale from Maine and Eye of the Hawk Ale (http://www.mendobrew.com/brews/main_brews.html) from Mendicino, CA (Why is it that I love all drinks with a bird on the label? Gobble, gobble!) to compete on the same shelf in, say, Topeka KS.

Back in the day, before widespread consolidation within the industry, regional beers were the rule. As late as 1973, while on a field assignment at the Chrysler Tank Plant in Detroit, I drank beer with the locals, and I drank what they drank mainly due to social pressure. No one said, "Let's go have a beer"; it was always "Let's go have a schooner of Stroh's". After only a few weeks on site I actually developed a taste for the stuff. I later realized that it was draft beer that I had fallen in love with, not the Stroh's brand; I had always thought of draft beer as cheap swill, to be ordered two pitchers per person and chugged as quickly as possible. (In Kansas, where I first drank lots of beer, that was largely true; it was all of the 3.2% variety.)

Further back, as a 17 year-old, hick-from-the-sticks freshman at MIT, I discovered that I didn't really like the taste of beer... except for one brand, Genesee. Later in life I tried it again and found it almost flavorless. Did it change, or did I? (In case you're wondering, I was way overmatched at MIT. I left after one semester -- at their request. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif )

As a youngster, growing up on the prairie of southern Illinois, I loved all of the beer commercials (http://www.beerbooks.com/cgi/ps4.cgi?action=enter&thispage=2103&order_id=!ORDER ID!) on our 17 inch, black and white TV. A sample of catch phrases and tag lines follows:

1. "Hey Mabel! Black Label!"
2. "From the land of sky blue waters (waters...), from the land of pines and lofty balsams comes the beer refreshing. Hamm's, the beer refreshing" -- accompanied by cartoon beavers that beat out the rhythm with their tails on a hollow log.
3. "I'm from Milwaukee, and I ought to know..."
4. "Mr. Magoo for Stag brew"
5. "Schlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous"
6. "Blatz, the beer that made Milwaukee change its mind"
7. Falstaff (http://www.jadetech.com/~smallsha/) -- I can't remember any of their adverstising, just that I was surprised to learn later in life that Falstaff was a famous character in opera
8. Griesedieck Brothers, no TV ads that I recall, but famous St. Louis Cardinal announcer Harry Carey personally endorsed it during the broadcasts of Cardinal games. My grandfather, a teetotaler in his later years, loved the Cardinals but would turn down the radio when Harry started singing the praises of Griesedieck Brothers beer.
9. "What do you say? Pabst Blue Ribbon!"
10. Wiedemann -- I can still picture the close-up shot of the beer cascading into the glass, the bubbles erupting, the foam overflowing -- made me want to dive in to get cool on a typical midwestern 90/90 (that's degrees and % humidity) August day.
11. "Miller's High Life, the champagne of bottled beers"
12. Budweiser -- Yes, it was still a regional brand when I was a kid. My favorite commercial, which may have come much later, was a low shot of the famous Clydesdale horses pulling an old-fashioned beer wagon, while a brass band played what sounded like a continous fanfare.

I find it ironic that the regional breweries of days past served mainly the common working man; whereas the modern version sells mainly to upscale yuppies (no offense intended, anyone http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif ), and it's the nationals that sell the stuff that goes for ten bucks a case.

Ah, nostalgia... Even it isn't what it used to be.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
08-27-2002, 15:25
One advantage, maybe the only one, of being old is that I get to spring old lines on young'uns and get a laugh.

IIRC, I actually stole that expression about 25 years ago, perhaps from a country song (Charlie Daniels, or Hank Jr., ... someone like that).

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

MurphyDawg
08-27-2002, 15:51
heh! i guess I gotta get myself to a bigger city then!!


TomC

MurphyDawg
08-27-2002, 16:02
Yeah that pretty much covers it, I grew up in Massachusetts and when I vaccation now its mostly back east so thats the only time I really have a lot of money for "good" beer, so the brews tend to be from the east. (that said anchor porter, sierra nevada pale ale & flying dog tire biter ale are all good beers I have had from mountain or pacific time zones). I dont keep beer at home that much anymore because
1) the local stores have crappy variety that is usually stale
2) I think bourbon is a better bang for the buck, and thats whyI post to this forum instead of a beerlover's site
3) even if that whiskey has been on the shelf for 11 YEARS, It will still taste how it should.

I agree that it is a shame that most of the locals cant afford the microbrewed beer in their area anymore (including me), I must say that the Mill City Brewing in my hometown of Lowell, Ma is an admirable exception, selling their 20oz on site brewed drafts for $1.50 last time i was there, cheaper than any other stuff they sold!!

Gotta love folks who cater to a working class crowd!!


Tom (BeerBoy & Bourbon Lover) C

jbutler
08-27-2002, 16:12
On a sort of tangential note, when I first started drinking beer in the mid 70's, Coors was $1.29 a six pack, and Heineken was $5. I remember splurging for a case of Heineken when I was 17. Damn thing cost $16.99 and that was a quite a bit of money then. Now Coors and heineken are about the same price, and on sale, Heineken is ~$19 per case. So at least in this case, that snazzy imported stuff has actually gone down in price over the years.

BTW, I happen to like Coors. Some of my fondest memory losses were made with it. The real problem with the stuff is that it goes down like water. You and a friend get hold of a 12 pack, and an hour later you're talking out the sides of your faces, and out of beer!

MurphyDawg
08-27-2002, 16:44
I should say that I agree that there is nothing bad about coors, in the same way Dave says there is nothing bad about Makers Mark, there is just nothing exceptional about it either. I am living in a part of ohio where your beer choices are Bud Miller Coors and their light counterpart when you go to a bar, (you cant even find Sam Adams some places) and when I go out it is usually Coors Original for me ( I am not a big fan of its "Silver Bullet" counterpart).


TomC

ratcheer
08-27-2002, 19:01
I remember Falstaff mostly from the Saturday Major League Baseball national TV broadcasts announced by Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese. I was a kid during the late 50's and early 60's and I loved watching them more than anything. The advertising was pretty much personal, although there were regular "produced" ads, as well.

When I was older and started trying beer, I wanted Falstaff. It never really cared for it after actually drinking it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

Tim

kitzg
08-28-2002, 12:29
Since I've been offline for four days I'm catching up and found this thread really interesting. Since I lived in Germany a couple of years during the long time working for a German company I really cut my teeth in experimentation on better beer there. Since then I've come to enjoy many types and styles of beer.

I drink more beer in volume each month than bourbon. I live in a college town so when we want to go out for pizza and beer it's Bud at $4.50 to 5.00 per pitcher.

As Dave said, when someone else is paying I can help them run up their tab quickly with many choices. I've brewed beer (homebrew) and belong to a club where folks bring their homebrew or their regional favorite. Wherever I am I usual try a local beer. So.... I don't have a favorite at all. I really enjoy the variety and the differences!

I collect beer memorabilia and yesterday I picked up a Wiedemann sign. It was brewed in Newport, KY and was the popular drink of my inlaws. I appreciated Dave's post which took me down memory lane. Those represent some of the signs I have or will pick up when I can find them cheap.

I try not to let anything with the words "light" attached to it touch my lips, though! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

Your subject "your favorite beer" led everyone to beer while your question was, "what are (you) drinking when not drinking bourbon. My other favorite spirit is tequilla. But I won't lead us into that discussion... And I only drink 100% blue agave.

-- Greg

**DONOTDELETE**
08-28-2002, 12:38
Greg,Why is it blue? What is agave? Where can I get some pull-kay? Is it really that sexy? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif

kitzg
08-28-2002, 13:20
Linn,

Yep, you've read some of my writing elsewhere.


Life is so full of choices. Do I go home and have a bourbon or a tequila?

Simple rule. When in Mexico drink tequila. When in Kentucky drink bourbon.

When at home drink what you feel like and see what happens to your pants.

kitzg
08-28-2002, 13:22
Speaking of blue beer....

unlike some of my friends I don't want colored "beer."

Fruit and beer don't mix.

Now chocolate.... that's another matter.

rwilps
08-28-2002, 18:17
Omigawd, Greg - you gave me a flashback to my bad old days, at Coyne's bar in Oakland in Pittsburgh, eating Hershey bars and drinking Stoney's beer with Sam Thompson chasers. Find me a wormhole into the past and BEAM ME UP!

Ralph Wilps

MurphyDawg
08-28-2002, 18:54
My non-bourbon non-beer drinks are not nearly as glamourous:

I have @ home:
1 bottle Goslings Black Seal Rum
1 bottle Captain Morgan's Spiced (exclusively for holiday eggnog)
1 bottle Jose Cuervo Gold
1 bottle Tequila Nacional (a gift)
1 bottle Seagrams 7 Crown (for guests)
1 bottle B**ven** S****h 21 year port wood (another gift)


I usually have bourbon or beer though, the rest is mostly gathering dust.


TomC

Jono
09-03-2002, 21:48
With age comes the appreciation for darker, fuller flavors....be it beer or whiskey etc. I too much prefer darker beers from ales to porters. Most commercial lagers I can hardly stand to drink. I think the age of 35+/- tends to be a turning point for many...taste buds died off or simply turned over!

Jono
09-04-2002, 21:58
On vacation 10 yrs ago in Britain I really enjoyed "Theakstons Ale." It is imported to the U.S. I enjoy Black and Tans (Michael O'Sheas is a U.S. maker). Bass, Harp, Guinness, S. Adams, Goose Island, Anchor etc. Michelob for regular commercial lager.

jeff
10-27-2003, 17:15
Tonight it is a cold, frosty mug of Pilsner Urquell. I am usually more of a porter/stout kind of guy, but this is a nice change of pace. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

avery
10-27-2003, 21:41
Kind of an old thread, but since it has been resurrected...

My favorite is probably Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, but my favorite brewery is Boulevard. I get Boulevard Pale Ale quite frequently and also pick up their seasonal brews. I like hoppier beers, so I stick to pales, IPAs, etc. I also like a good wheat beer from time to time or a Belgian brew. New Belgium is also a good brewery... Sunshine Wheat, Blue Paddle, and their Abbey are really good.

Vinnie
10-27-2003, 23:14
Sierra Nevada does make some great beer. I am a big fan of their Bigfoot seasonal. Awesome. Although I would have to say my all time favorite beer is http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif"Fred" by Hair of the Dog, its out of portland and unbelievable.If you haven't had any look for it.I'm salivating just thinking about it. And Belguims, you can't really go wrong there. Wonderful,wonderful stuff. Chimay, Corsendonk...ahhhhhh If I ever made it across the pond to Belguim, I probabaly wouldn't come back.

robbyvirus
10-28-2003, 00:06
All the beers made by Anchor Steam, brewed here in SF by Freddy Maytag, are great. They make a beer called "Anchor Small Beer" which is outstanding. They use the leftover mash from when they brew their Old Foghorn Barleywine, and they referment it to get this very light and very bitter ale...completely refreshing!

bluesbassdad
10-28-2003, 00:38
Your post reminded me that I was quite fond of Anchor Liberty Ale a few years ago. I think I stopped buying it only because my source quit stocking it.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
10-28-2003, 01:01
I haven't been drinking a variety of beers lately. That may change because of this thread being bumped.

One of my favorites for a couple years was Rogue Hazelnut Brown. I loved it on tap, but it was barely tolerable in bottles. When my favorite blues club (http://boogaloo.com/) quit serving it I went without for at least a year. Then a yuppie-pub called "The Yard House" opened in the touristy part of Long Beach, and they advertised "the most taps in town", or something like that. I went there one afternoon on a weekday and discovered that they had it. Somehow it didn't taste as good as I remembered. It may be time to give it another try.

Thanks to a steady supply from Trader Joe's, I've found that I like most bottlings from Mendocino Brewing Company and Anderson Valley Brewing Company, although I seldom drink the lighter, drier styles. Eye of the Hawk and Boont Amber are my favorites.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Bob
10-28-2003, 07:02
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is my favorite, all-around brew. However, I too like a very hoppy beer, and Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale fits the bill! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif It should be available soon, as its a seasonal beer. Cheers!

Bob

pepcycle
10-28-2003, 09:43
This has been an outstanding beer week.
I tried Piraat on tap. Its a Belgian triple with 10.5% ABV. Malty with a citrus aftertaste and a big white head that won't quit. I also fell in love with Sami Claus, another big gravity beer that proclaims itself to be the world's strongest. Great partners for cool weather and one-pot meals.
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MarkB
10-28-2003, 13:45
Best beer by far... Falstaff! Runner up... Hamms!

No, just kidding. I echo the nod to Kansas City's Boulevard. Of course it is a regional beer and not avalable to everyone so, this attaboy may not mean that much to many. The Sierra Nevada Pale Ale (which I like too) is very similar to the Boulevard Pale Ale, but head to head in my serious and somber tastings the Boulevard wins hands down.

Dave_in_Canada
10-28-2003, 13:59
After my one bourbon, then one scotch, I usually to go one beer (with thanks to John Lee Hooker)!

Seriously, though, Jeff, I'm glad you posted this topic, and the answer for me is a tough one.

First off, I love microbrews, and whenever I'm travelling I try and eat at a brewpub where the freshest and finest ales are to be found. Living in the Pacific Northwest, I feel lucky to have a huge selection many within miles, and whenever travelling throughout Washington and Oregon.

I love the IPA style (I'm a closet hophead) and like yourself Jeff, love a good dark beer too, especially the imported Guinness where available on tap. There's a couple of darks I'm especially enjoying right now Traquair Jacobite Ale and Suffolk Vintage Ale, from the U.K. The Suffolk is a dark ale which is aged in huge Oak vats, and is also blended before bottling.

I'm also a big fan of the Belgian beers, and similar breweries like Unibroue in Quebec are doing a fantastic job of creating some amazing double and triple fermented bottle offerings.

Of interest is the Unibroue 10, a special beer released in 2002 to commemorate the 10th anniversary of their existence. The beer features a 10% ABV and is the closest thing to cognac you'll ever taste in a beer. This year they outdid even themselves with the release of Unibroue 11 (yes, 11%). Look for the 12 next year possibly. Both are limited availability and worth searching out, in addition to their La Fin du Monde or Maudite.

As for American large brewery offerings, I'll agree with many that the Sierra Nevada is great. If any Rogue ales from Oregon are available in your area, try them out too. I have no idea how they pack so much flavour and body into a beer bottle.

Beer lovers will find a vast amount of info at www.ratebeer.com (http://www.ratebeer.com)

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pepcycle
10-28-2003, 15:20
Maudite!!!!
Righteous http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif
I'm a with ya.
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SteveZZZ
10-28-2003, 21:28
In the last few days I've tried both Maudite and La Fin du Monde... I cant decide which I like better, but they've joined Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout at the absolute top of my list.

Steve

CL
10-28-2003, 21:41
Rogue's Dead Guy Ale. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

MurphyDawg
10-29-2003, 00:27
I love the IPA style (I'm a closet hophead)



Well for the east coast hop fanantics (Sorry, Dave) I suggest Boston's Harpoon IPA. (http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/beers/harpoon/ipa.htm) It is probably the first beer that screamed hops that I really enjoyed. Get a sampler 12 pack if you can because many of their other bottlings (especially the ESB) are quite yummy too.

TomC

MurphyDawg
10-29-2003, 00:47
When I squeeze a beer in between these days it has been one of the following, they are generally local so If you are in OH, you should check 'em out:

One of the Columbus (OH) Brewing Company's line. (http://www.columbusbrewing.com/Our_Beer.htm) Especially the 1895 porter, which is quite rich and dark. they all used to be available in bottles, but I think the brand is exclusively on tap now.

One of the many fine beers from Great Lakes Brewing in Cleveland, my two faves being the Eliot Ness (http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/Brews/elliot.cfm) or the Burning River Pale Ale (http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/Brews/burning.cfm) , although their Porter is quite good too.

And when I get the chance the "Tremont Ale" line from Atlantic Coast Brewing, though you dont often see them out this way, and I have to get a bud to bring them along when they visit.

I also admit to liking Sam Adams beers pretty well and since they are wide spread ofter have them out in resteraunts. Oh well, I have gone on too long. Time for a drink http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif!

Tom(A fascinating site about how one of the Great Lakes Ales got its infamous name) (http://www.cwru.edu/artsci/engl/marling/60s/pages/richoux/)C

Dave_in_Canada
10-29-2003, 09:31
Steve, for me it's
Maudite = winter
La Fin du Monde = summer

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pepcycle
10-29-2003, 11:04
CL
Rogues's Dead Guy nite is tonight at a local watering hole. Buy a pitcher on tap and get two glasses to keep. Dead Guy is good. I have a soft spot in my heart for the Stout's and the Porters as well.
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SteveZZZ
10-29-2003, 12:53
Dave, the summer/winter thing sounds like a good plan... but I live in Phoenix, Arizona. We have 2 seasons here, Summer and January. I think I'll just keep them both on hand and conduct some extensive, ummmm, research on them both! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Steve

jeff
10-29-2003, 18:14
Tonight I had a Michelob Black and Tan. I have been pleasantly suprised with their line of specialty beers. For $4.99 a six pack it can't be beat. I also enjoy their Amber Bock on occasion. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Paradox
10-29-2003, 18:18
I was too embarrased to post what I liked since I'm not a normal beer drinker and dont know all the small breweries but you just hit it Jeff. I really like the Michelob lineup of speciality beers! Two of my favorites are the Honey Lager and the Amber Bock. I really like that one alot.

Gillman
10-29-2003, 18:32
I contend with my beer fan friends all the time about my liking for the best commercial beers. I like the regular (original) Michelob. It has a rich taste that is quite unique - many years ago in a beer book I read the description, "eggy", and I can't improve on it.

The thing is though, Michelob (really any beer) must be very fresh to be at its best - sometimes even adding a few weeks fridge storage dampens the delicate taste. Originally (until about 1959) Michelob was an all-barley malt beer - at that time (when it was first bottled) the spec was changed to 80% barley malt and 20% adjunct, rice I think. I think Michelob would be even better if it returned to the original formulation. I like microbeers too - again if fresh and non-oxidised - the average quality of micro beer has gone up a lot in the last 10 years. Michelob by the way is good to chase whiskey with - but one has to go easy here. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

These line extension Michelobs sound very good and possibly are all-malt.

Gary

Gemini_Rose
10-29-2003, 19:25
I hate to admit it..Coors Light. I know it's mostly water but it tastes good with snacking and BBQ food. While away from NYC on weekend excursions, I enjoy 'sampling' the beer of the locale I happen to be in. I on occasion like BUD ICE-has more alcohol. Saranac Lake beers are nice as well. I don't enjoy dark beers but light ones suit me just fine--anyone have any suggestions for a new brew to try?
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CL
10-29-2003, 23:04
How can you and Jeff like such great bourbon, yet settle for such mediocre beer? Honey Lager? That's a girlie beer. Amber Bock? A marketing attempt to be a better than average swill beer, at best, that falls well short of the mark. In bourbon terms, I think Honey Lager is the Basil Hayden of beers and Amber Bock is the JB White 7 yo of beers.

No offense to you both, personally, of course. Just calling them as I see 'em!

MurphyDawg
10-30-2003, 00:03
Yeah that amber bock stuff is pretty solid. They have that on tap at the local Red Lobster and I used to chill out at their bar and bug my friend Gabe when he used to bartend there. A pretty good way to spend an afternoon.


TomC

MurphyDawg
10-30-2003, 00:06
These line extension Michelobs sound very good and possibly are all-malt.






Sadly, no.


they are still pretty good thoug, and quite cost effective. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif More money for whiskey you know.


TomC

Paradox
10-30-2003, 05:08
I'm not a big beer fanatic nor a regular beer drinker by far. Since I cannot appreciate a great beer I like the fact that I can buy almost 2 6-packs of a Michelob speciality beer for what a 6 pack of some of these smaller micro-brews cost. When I do drink beer these are what I like, my own personal preference, sorry it doesn't meet your expectations...

CL
10-30-2003, 17:56
Hey, no expectations to meet here. I always respect the opinions of those that know what they like, but that doesn't mean I won't toss in a little joking. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Seriously, it was meant to be an ironic post - you and Jeff have such great palates for bourbon yet you are very happy with the Michelob beers. I hope you took my original post at an attempt at humor. If I missed that mark, I apologize. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

bluesbassdad
10-30-2003, 18:26
CL,

Dang! I hate it when I miss out an a chance to be offended along with everyone else. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Did your post end with, "The lab results came back. They said, 'Neither of these horses should be worked for at least 10 days.' "? [Did I just set a record for consecutive punctuation marks?]

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

tommy
11-01-2003, 14:36
I'm a Yuengling fan. I went on a hiking trip along the continental divide out west a few years ago, and I had a great beer out there called Fat Tire, but I've never been able to find it in Va. There's an "Irish" bar around the corner from me that has a pitiful bourbon selection, so I usually drink Harp with Guiness on top when I go there. I think that's called a half-and-half. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Tommy

Bob
11-01-2003, 16:09
Tommy,

Yuengling Porter is a favorite of mine. I've had Fat Tire here in NY, I think its from Colorado.

Bob

CL
11-01-2003, 21:51
Fat Tire is definitely from CO. Boulder, I believe, but I am not positive about the city. Anyhow, it's good stuff. When I drank more beer, I could only find it in Denver when I was there on business.

SteveZZZ
11-01-2003, 22:19
New Belgium (brewers of Fat Tire and other delicious beers) are in Fort Collins, Colorado. I enjoy their whole lineup... check them out at http://www.newbelgium.com/

Steve

MurphyDawg
11-02-2003, 00:16
I think that's called a half-and-half.




Yep thats what you call a stout/porter and lager concoction. I remember hearing it referred to as a Black & Tan (http://www.ivo.se/guinness/bnt.html) by my Irish grandfather as a kid. From what I can see it is either or.

I did a tad of research (resulting in the above link) regarding the history of the term and came up with this:

The term was also used to refer to a a regiment of British soldiers recruited to serve in Ireland after the First World War. They had a reputation for being quite brutal and have been accused of many attrocities against the Irish in the years 1919-21.

Interesting Stuff.

Tom (part Callahan) C

robbyvirus
11-02-2003, 00:30
Harp with Guiness on top is called a "Black and Tan". A good Irish favorite!

Paradox
11-02-2003, 13:45
We're having dinner up at my parents tonight and my Dad and Stacy are drinking from a case of Tequiza (http://www.tequiza.com) he just bought. He loves it for some reason! But he tells me his favorite beer is simply Bud.

SSBourbon1
11-02-2003, 18:46
I have to agree with the Dixie Blackened Voodoo, good stuff. When I can find it, I also enjoy a beer from England called Old Peculiar, makes you feel good....and a little peculiar. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Bob
11-03-2003, 06:01
Old Peculiar is a very fine brew. There's many fine British beers out there that are worth trying, and one of them is Thomas Hardy's Old Ale...very yummy, but a bit pricey.

bourbonmed
06-11-2004, 14:33
A beer festival near you!

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2004-06-10-beer-festivals_x.htm

Cheers,
Omar

welshman
06-12-2004, 07:33
I'm not sure if you can get it there in the States, but my number one brew is Chimay White. It's a Belgian brew and it notches up around 8% on the alcohol scale. You can't beat a bottle of the stuff in the summer time, especially if you stick a wedge of lemon on the side of the glass. It smells like freshly-risen bread dough, and there's nothing better to ease you into the swing of things.
WM

gr8erdane
06-13-2004, 00:59
Tom,
I tried one of the beers from a brewer for one on your list, Flying Dog out of Denver. I had their IPA Snake Dog and I must say that it was as good an IPA as I've had. Unfortunately I bought it Thursday and just got it cooled down enough when I got in the Chat room with Jim and Cliff and was sippin Pappy 20, sippin Snake Dog, sippin Hazmat, sippin Snake Dog, sippin Weller 19, sippin Snake Dog, and for some reason I just can't remember all the flavors I was tasting. But I can say that the Snake Dog complemented all these premium bourbons magnificently. They have a full line of ales, and can be found here: Flying Dog Ales (http://www.flyingdogales.com)
They have a locator that shows several stores that sell the line.

mountainman1840
06-13-2004, 15:23
I'm a dark beer man myself. I also like Sam Adams triple bock when available http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif My moto is " If you can see through it, it ain't beer". http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Although paying for the stouts and other dark beers is like buying gas these day's I'm gonna have to take out a loan for a six pack. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

Paradox
06-14-2004, 18:27
This is not my 'favorite' as the thread implies but it's a good thread for the discussion of various brews I guess. This past weekend I picked up two 6-packs of Samuel Adams; Summer Ale and Cherry Wheat.

The Summer Ale as I remember it said it had lemon zest and some 'grains of paradise' in it. I was very disappointed in this one. Not only did I not get any fruitiness in it (which I thought may be underlying), I got no lemon background notes either. It was a very plain, nothing special brew. Maybe it was just me, but I found nothing special going on in it.

Now the Cherry Wheat... That was a beer I really liked! I noticed I really have a love for wheat brews, let's say that right now. Oh, and the Summer Ale was a wheat recipe beer, but I still did not like it. Anyways, this Cherry Wheat was amazing. The aroma of the cherries mixed with the 'beer aroma' was great. Both in the nose and the taste, the cherries were not too overpowering. Everything was blended just right, and I will definitely be buying another sixer of this! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Bamber
06-17-2004, 06:58
Any export strength lager - Stella, Kronenburg, Becks, Heineken export.

Guiness, Murphy's, Beamish

and ...

Draught Budweiser on a hot Summers day http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

To be honest the quality of beer in th UK is so dependent on the pub you get it from that I have different favourites in different places.

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Paradox
07-05-2004, 10:13
I had to share this picture with you guys since Bob was nice enough to bring it over this 4th of July weekend to open; A bottle of Samuel Adams Triple Bock from 1994 .

I really had no idea what to expect out of this but here's a quick description of what it was like. It poured a very thick and very dark color, dark dark brown almost black. Also, there was no foamy head whatsoever. In the nose I got a little bit of oak and maple syrup. In the mouth, for me at least, the maple syrup really came through with maybe a bit of molasses. I also got a little coffee taste in there or something that resembles burnt coffee. It's like the burnt taste was fighting with the sweetness from the maple syrup. Quite a unique product but one I wouldnít even classify as beer. Something nice to try but definitely drink it in a snifter and only pour the smallest amount... You can't drink all of it at once, trust me.

Thanks Bob for bringing this and all the other beers you did. It was a great time, one I hope we can do again soon! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

ratcheer
07-05-2004, 19:09
Tonight, I had a new (to me) beer that was very good: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. I bought a case at Sam's Club, had the first one while char-broiling a couple of excellent rib eyes, and a second one while eating my steak.

A couple of weeks ago, I finished a 6-pack of Sam Adams Boston Lager, really liking it. I like the SNPA quite a bit better.

Tim

Bob
07-06-2004, 06:20
Tim,

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is one of my "go to" beers that is always a great choice. I love wheat beers during the summer, more robust beers in the colder months, but SNPA is good at any time, any season. It is a BIG step up from SA Lager.

Why did you grab a case of it if you've never had it before? Do you have to buy beer by the case in your area?

Bob

pepcycle
07-06-2004, 13:00
Mark,
The Triple Bock struck me as Sherry tasting. It has about the same alcohol content and sweetness. Definitely doesn't fit into the beer category.
Ed

ratcheer
07-06-2004, 19:30
No, I don't have to buy by the case. I had seen their delivery trucks and heard that it is very good, but I had looked in several stores and been unable to find it. Even in stores that had wide selections (such as one that had three different types of Yeungling). So, when I saw the case of SNPA at Sam's and it was less than $1 per bottle, I took the chance.

Hell, if I've spent the money, I could probably even drink up a case of Miller's. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

Tim

Paradox
07-06-2004, 19:34
PA has the dumbest law that Bob informed me of (I never even took notice to it before recently)... There you have to buy beer by the case; they don't sell single 12 ouncers, 24 ouncers, 40oz's etc. Not even a damn 6 pack! How lame... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Speedy_John
07-07-2004, 06:42
Actually, you can buy "carry-out" six-packs of beer in PA, but only at bars and restaurants...at inflated prices. Cases and kegs are sold only at beer distributors. But, you're right--no 12-packs, no singles. We do have some strange and outdated laws governing the sale of alcohol here.

SpeedyJohn

Bob
07-07-2004, 07:38
Ed,

I thought of the Triple Bock more as a Port than anything else. As you say, its definitely not a true beer.

Bob