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shoshani
10-09-2008, 19:56
I miss it.

It was a lovely whiskey, 107 proof and I believe 10 years old, and it was available for such a low price that I felt I was stealing every time I bought a bottle.

It is not being bottled, but man. Had I known a decade or so ago that its days were numbered, I'd have bought cases rather than individual bottles. It was, and will be, my favorite bourbon.

Ah, nostalgia.

cowdery
10-09-2008, 21:19
I got one of the last two cases on earth.

I wish I had bought both of them.

BourbonJoe
10-09-2008, 21:40
And I got one of the last bottles from LeNell last time I went up there.
Joe :usflag:

shoshani
10-09-2008, 22:24
I never understood what the difference was between Commonwealth and the 10 year old 107 proof ORVW. I had both and clearly preferred Commonwealth; Commonwealth was less expensive as well so there had to have been clearly defined flavor profiles from stocks that were more costly in the ORVW profile. Either that or OC was a loss-leader brand and Julian was losing his shirt on it.

Julian's website (is he still reading Straightbourbon.com?) lists 10YO 107 ORVW but I haven't seen it for a while.

bluesbassdad
10-09-2008, 23:16
I never understood what the difference was between Commonwealth and the 10 year old 107 proof ORVW. I had both and clearly preferred Commonwealth; Commonwealth was less expensive as well so there had to have been clearly defined flavor profiles from stocks that were more costly in the ORVW profile. Either that or OC was a loss-leader brand and Julian was losing his shirt on it.

Julian's website (is he still reading Straightbourbon.com?) lists 10YO 107 ORVW but I haven't seen it for a while.

Here is a link (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/search.php?searchid=484337)to the results of a search for all of Julian's posts that mention Old Commonwealth.

If I read the first post correctly, there's no explaining your preference for OC over ORVW 10/107.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

mozilla
10-10-2008, 09:23
...there had to have been clearly defined flavor profiles from stocks that were more costly in the ORVW profile. ...

IIRC, all of the stocks for the wheated recipe came from the same distillery(SW). When you buy at the volume I would expect Julian to buy at....there shouldn't be any added costs for one barrel over another.

Just because a label says 10 years...doesn't mean that is all that is in it. 10 is the minimum that is included.

Lastly, we don't have any ideas on batch or batch size for these different bottlings...so, any thoughts on why the taste profile is a little dissimilar are hard to nail down.

cowdery
10-10-2008, 10:17
Old Commonwealth and ORVW 10/107 of that period were the exact same stuff, although there are always batch-to-batch variations. Julian said that at the time. Some of it got poured into OC bottles, some into ORVW bottles. OC was only made for a brief time and during that period they were the same.

BourbonJoe
10-10-2008, 11:29
OC was only made for a brief time and during that period they were the same.

All from Lawrenceburg if I recall correctly.
Joe :usflag:

OscarV
10-10-2008, 12:22
I got one of the last two cases on earth.


You know Chuck, a bottle of Old Commonwealth would look good on my shelf nestled between my Twisted Spoke and Society Of Bourbon Connoisseurs.
Hey I ain't sayin', but I ain't not sayin' either.:grin:

barturtle
10-10-2008, 12:41
I'll give it a go for you Dave

Try this (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/search.php?searchid=484672)

nor02lei
10-10-2008, 16:04
I did struck lucky a half year or so back and fond 2 bottles of old Commonwealth at a German online store. I did get 1 ordinal Weller 10 years at the same time.

Leif

bluesbassdad
10-11-2008, 11:57
If anyone [still] cares, here is a link to the post (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14827&highlight=commonwealth#post14827)where Julian Van Winkle states the relationship between Old Commonwealth and Old Rip Van Winkle 10/107.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

shoshani
10-11-2008, 18:57
Old Commonwealth and ORVW 10/107 of that period were the exact same stuff, although there are always batch-to-batch variations. Julian said that at the time. Some of it got poured into OC bottles, some into ORVW bottles. OC was only made for a brief time and during that period they were the same.

I was actually thinking earlier today that the reason I may have tasted differences was because all the OC I drank (maybe six bottles total...I don't drink a lot :) ) came from barrels hand-picked by Joe C., so it's possible that they didn't exactly fit the standard profile.

cowdery
10-11-2008, 20:14
The brand was created for Joe C., so he set the standard, he was the standard. It's more likely that you had ORVW from a batch that wasn't shared with OC.