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boss302
10-26-2008, 02:59
I would like to start a thread about under-rated spirits.

Two that fit the description, IMHO:

1) Weller Antique, 107
2) Bulleit

kickert
10-26-2008, 06:01
W.L. Weller 12 year old - This is quickly working its way up my list. Right now I would put it up against any bourbon under $30 (and I haven't had enough over $30 to be able to make a comparison, but I bet it would hold its own).

Rittenhouse Rye BIB - I can think of no better pour in bourbon, rye or other spirit for $16 a 750 than this.

barturtle
10-26-2008, 07:21
Evan Williams BIB White Label
Johnny Drum 12yo

Fleischmann's Rye

mozilla
10-26-2008, 07:45
I don't find any Weller or even Bulleit to be under rated. Actually, they are highly rated by most. Maybe, Bulleit doesn't get high regard on this board...but, try visiting a liquor store...they will recommend it.

Timothy, has it right, though.

I would say...Dowling Deluxe Bib 8yr, Virgin 7yr 101 and Four Roses Small Batch(a well balanced blend of 4 of FR's componants). For some reason, it has not been a favorite of many on this board.

Special Reserve
10-26-2008, 08:44
OGD114

This is a great buy bourbon. In MI it's only $23.11 +tax. I really like its sweetness over cracked ice.

smokinjoe
10-26-2008, 08:55
Ezra Brooks 90 proof doesn't get a wholelottalove, but I really enjoy it. <$16 for a 1.75 around here, too.

polyamnesia
10-26-2008, 09:10
OGD114

This is a great buy bourbon. In MI it's only $23.11 +tax. I really like its sweetness over cracked ice.

i agree...this was my pick...and i find it across the state line in Delaware for $20.99!

and from memory (and often on sale), the Ridgemont Reserve was excellent.

mozilla
10-26-2008, 09:20
Ezra Brooks 90 proof doesn't get a wholelottalove, but I really enjoy it. <$16 for a 1.75 around here, too.

Though, I would not say that EB is full of flavor...I do like that it is still 90 proof and reasonably priced. It is usually priced near what most charge for an 80 proofer. Another that is in Texas that competes with EB is Private Cellar 90. Both are HH juice, but the PC is now a 3yr product.

smokinjoe
10-26-2008, 09:30
Mo, I like your call on the Virgin 7yr 101, and what it's twin would be, the Old Ezra 7yr 101. The Old Ezra has been a fav of mine for some time, now. I've been getting the Virgin lately (when I'm in Bama), as I find it easier to locate than the Old Ezra 7yr. Very tasty.
:toast:

mozilla
10-26-2008, 10:11
I don't recall what the 101EB goes for? The Virgin 101 is only around $12/750ml. I have only found it in NC and it is a great deal for 101 drinkers. It is not as good as WT, but it is also half the price.

ILLfarmboy
10-26-2008, 10:17
OGD 114 isn't available around here but the BIB is universaly underrated.

ILLfarmboy
10-26-2008, 10:23
Oh, and If I had to drink an 80 proofer. I'd pick Mild Turkey. I stop into a bar once in a while that only carries this and JB white. I always have a Turkey and water.

gothbat
10-26-2008, 11:15
I'm going to go with FC103. Doesn't seem to be popular with many but it's a good value and tastes great.

mozilla
10-26-2008, 12:15
I'm going to go with FC103. Doesn't seem to be popular with many but it's a good value and tastes great.

HH's FC103 used to be much better as an 8yr product. The 6yr has lost some of it's feathers. I wonder how much the price would change by reverting to the 8yr again?

smokinjoe
10-26-2008, 12:35
I don't recall what the 101EB goes for? The Virgin 101 is only around $12/750ml. I have only found it in NC and it is a great deal for 101 drinkers. It is not as good as WT, but it is also half the price.

I want to say the 101EB used to be in the $13ish range. But, when I've seen it recently, it was nudging towards $16. Your price on the Virgin 101 is about what I have seen, also.

polyamnesia
10-26-2008, 12:51
OGD 114 isn't available around here but the BIB is universaly underrated.

i also agree with that. didn't like it at first at all! but when i taste the 114, i can tell it is the real Grand Dad of the family! and it's only a few bucks more.

Jono
10-26-2008, 12:59
I have not had EW 7.....how does it compare to Beam White or more premium EW products? I like the EWSB.

mozilla
10-26-2008, 13:06
EW no longer puts an age statement on their black label EW. The master distillers select is a blend of 7-10yr old bourbons and mimicks the old #7 very well.

Jono
10-26-2008, 17:06
Maybe worth a pick up as a budget buy...good review comments:

http://www.evanwilliams.com/about_brands_article.shtml?article=MjQwMHN1cGVyMjM 5N3NlY3JldDI0MDQ=

Is it under-rated?

gothbat
10-27-2008, 11:06
HH's FC103 used to be much better as an 8yr product. The 6yr has lost some of it's feathers. I wonder how much the price would change by reverting to the 8yr again?

If this happened, and I'm sure it won't, we can only hope it remains reasonably priced like the 6 year, imo, is! I've also heard about a 15 year expression that was export only but, much like with the 8 year, I've never even seen the label.

mozilla
10-27-2008, 11:27
Wow! A 15yr FC. I wonder if it is as robust as the 6 or mellow like someother older HH products. They seem to be able to get both types of profiles, at will.

barturtle
10-27-2008, 11:29
Wow! A 15yr FC. I wonder if it is as robust as the 6 or mellow like someother older HH products. They seem to be able to get both types of profiles, at will.

The 15yo FC is one of the best HH bottlings I've had, well balanced, full bodied and not over-aged. Highly recommended.

mozilla
10-27-2008, 11:32
Thanks for the heads up on that product....it just made my list.

purplehaze67
10-27-2008, 18:37
If this happened, and I'm sure it won't, we can only hope it remains reasonably priced like the 6 year, imo, is! I've also heard about a 15 year expression that was export only but, much like with the 8 year, I've never even seen the label.

You can see a bottle here:


http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/forum/DBvd.php?id=71&task=displaybottling

Dr. François
10-27-2008, 20:44
Maybe worth a pick up as a budget buy...good review comments:

http://www.evanwilliams.com/about_brands_article.shtml?article=MjQwMHN1cGVyMjM 5N3NlY3JldDI0MDQ=

Is it under-rated?


For a discussion on EWB and EW7YO, see this link:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9211


Also, I support EC12 as a consistently underrated bourbon. True, it got funky for a while, but the last several years have been consistent and, IMO, incredibly solid. This is my desert island bourbon. At 20 bucks a fifth and 37 a 1.75l, I can drink it every day, too!

Jono
10-27-2008, 21:43
Thanks for that link...you sum up the EW black:

"It's a great cheapo bourbon...not rough, not overly pleasant. middle of the road...what you usually pay 15-17 bucks for you get for 11. However, the bourbon that offends no one can also delight no one."

Probably worth a try....especially for the $.

edo
10-28-2008, 02:44
Early Times KSBW, both the yellow and brown lablel (the brown seems a little smoother, but the labels are identical except in color). Both bottom shelf cheap, both very drinkable.

Attila
10-28-2008, 03:23
If this happened, and I'm sure it won't, we can only hope it remains reasonably priced like the 6 year, imo, is! I've also heard about a 15 year expression that was export only but, much like with the 8 year, I've never even seen the label.

We should ask Virus of Life his opinion of FC15 in a couple of weeks. FC runs about 30 bucks here in Japan.

Dr. François
10-28-2008, 06:05
Thanks for that link...you sum up the EW black:

"It's a great cheapo bourbon...not rough, not overly pleasant. middle of the road...what you usually pay 15-17 bucks for you get for 11. However, the bourbon that offends no one can also delight no one."

Probably worth a try....especially for the $.

Jono,

I always have a bottle of EW Black on hand. Great on the rocks, great when mixed (not that I do). As OscarV says, "it's got a great minty finish."

gothbat
10-28-2008, 06:10
You can see a bottle here:
http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/forum/DBvd.php?id=71&task=displaybottling

Cool, thanks; I've never seen that one before!



FC runs about 30 bucks here in Japan.

Wow, more than twice the age but just under $10 more in price than what I pay makes the one we have here almost seem like a bad deal!

I think I'll pick up a 6yr sometime soon, it's been a while for this one since the likes of Weller Antique 107 showed up and this thread has got me thinking about it again!

JamesW
10-28-2008, 07:26
I like the Old Fitz BiB for ~ $15 and Weller Special Reserve for ~ $14. These would be my underated, underpriced, go-to pours.

mozilla
10-28-2008, 08:01
Early Times KSBW, both the yellow and brown lablel (the brown seems a little smoother, but the labels are identical except in color). Both bottom shelf cheap, both very drinkable.

Is that the export you are referring to? The version here in the States is not a KSBW.

Josh
10-28-2008, 10:18
I would have to say Old Whiskey River is the most underrated. No, it's not good, but it's not as bad as ppl say it is. I actually prefer it to some of the big name, big $$$ super premiums. That said, it still kinda blows. I'd pick EW black or JB white over it if I had a choice.