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funknik
01-08-2009, 12:01
Went and got the Old Charter Prop I chased down about four weeks ago...was still there...whew! Don't really know anything about it...anybody want to fill me in? Now I have this and 2 VSOFs bunkered.http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1646.jpg

funknik
01-08-2009, 12:20
Let's see....did a little homework....OCPR looks like BT juice? The label says Louisville and the bottle says '95' on the bottom. The VSOF currently in production is made by HH, but I don't think this stuff is, right -- no date on the bottom of this one? Saw pictures of the current bottling and the top was different....says VSOF all over it. Label on these 3 says Louisville, but current bottling says Bardstown, no? Anyway, lots of questions...I have read mixed reviews about the OCPR, but had to pick it up due to its obscurity, especially around here....next stop is to try and hunt down some Weller Centennial...there must be one in some hole-in-the-wall liquor store somewhere in the state of Maine.....Right?

OscarV
01-08-2009, 12:29
The OCPR that you got is referred to as the "slope shoulder" bottle distilled and bottled in Louisville.
The later one was shaped like the Weller Centennial.
You scored one hell of a good bottle of whiskey.

funknik
01-08-2009, 12:38
The OCPR that you got is referred to as the "slope shoulder" bottle distilled and bottled in Louisville.
The later one was shaped like the Weller Centennial.
You scored one hell of a good bottle of whiskey.
Sweet! I was hoping someone would say that! It wasn't easy to track down.

spun_cookie
01-08-2009, 13:48
them good drinks.... open them puppies up and go at 'em

fishnbowljoe
01-08-2009, 14:03
Nice score Andy! Way to go. Joe

ggilbertva
01-08-2009, 18:38
That OCPR is a gem. Drink it in good health.

mozilla
01-09-2009, 06:42
How were the prices? If you don't mind me asking.

OscarV
01-09-2009, 06:50
Off topic question here, how does the taste of the BHC VSOF compare to today's VSOF?

funknik
01-09-2009, 09:12
Off topic question here, how does the taste of the BHC VSOF compare to today's VSOF?
I was wondering this also, haven't seen any of the HH bottles around. To answer Jeff's question...$33 for the VSOF & $35 for the OCPR.

kickert
01-09-2009, 10:02
Was Weller Cent ever release apart from the BHC??

mozilla
01-09-2009, 11:40
I was wondering this also, haven't seen any of the HH bottles around. To answer Jeff's question...$33 for the VSOF & $35 for the OCPR.

Thanks. That is in the usualy ballpark for Texas, as well.


And, Yes...BHC consisted of...Weller 10/100, VSOF, Charter 13, Dickle 10 and Harper 15.

In Texas sometimes you can find Old Weller 7/107 in black bags that state BHC on them. But I don't believe it was actually part of the collection.

Squash
01-09-2009, 13:04
I just saw a bottle of Old Charter Prop Res, 13 yo in a squarish bottle (similar to Wathen's) for $39. Is it worth it?

mozilla
01-09-2009, 13:40
I just saw a bottle of Old Charter Prop Res, 13 yo in a squarish bottle (similar to Wathen's) for $39. Is it worth it?

Well, I guess that is the real question. To me, no. I like my BHC's around $28-33.

If you have never had any of the collection...go for one. If you like what you find...you will probably dig on the rest of them. They are all quality whiskies.

Price doesn't always guarentee flavor.

ACDetroit
01-09-2009, 16:46
I was wondering this also, haven't seen any of the HH bottles around. To answer Jeff's question...$33 for the VSOF & $35 for the OCPR.


I picked up a BHC VSOF today as well! I knew it was at this store and while driving past today I could here this bottle calling my name (AC!, AC!) Needless to say I quickly made the turn around pulled into the store and picked it up! I may open it tonight! I have not had one open in some time!

Tony

ACDetroit
01-09-2009, 16:59
Was Weller Cent ever release apart from the BHC??


Ben, to answer your question...Yes. The first release of the Weller Cent. was in a red-ish pink box and said BHC on it, all bottles in this box were from L'ville. The next release I like to call the transitional glass release, still had the BHC logo on the neck made in Frankfort and still very good! The very last release I've seen has a Gold Capsule (the Whiskey "Kiss of Death") sealing it, still good whiskey but at that point it was almost finished and I'm sure you know not made anymore!

Hope that helps and is not confusing!

Tony

kickert
01-09-2009, 19:11
Thanks Tony. I have been wondering for awhile.

Also... Andy and I were talking about the 13 year old Weller Cent. Was that a regular release or a special bottling?

funknik
01-09-2009, 19:49
I picked up a BHC VSOF today as well! I knew it was at this store and while driving past today I could here this bottle calling my name (AC!, AC!) Needless to say I quickly made the turn around pulled into the store and picked it up! I may open it tonight! I have not had one open in some time!

TonyNice one, Tony....always a good choice. I know what you mean about the voices....bourbon calls my name, too...the OCPR haynted me for almost a month.
BTW, tried your 4RSB tonight...really classic stuff!

MJL
01-11-2009, 05:46
I have found a few bottles in the Miami area that I have been adding to my collection over the last few months. The prices I have paid are almost to the penny what has been mentioned in this thread. I have to wonder if these prices are not the original retail prices for these bottles and those of us who are finding the remnants of the late offering have been taking them for 10 year old prices. I broke the cap by accident on one of the Old Charter bottles a few weeks back. A full M1 clip of .30-'06 ammo fell of a bookshelf and hit the bottle cracking the cap....oh well. Anyway, I replaced the cap with a cork and have been drinking it for the last few weeks. The Old Charter is good stuff and worthy of the money. I, for one, will keep an eye out for more to add to my collection. Just keep the ammo away from the bottles.

funknik
01-23-2009, 21:52
I've been trying really hard to track down a Weller Centennial and finally did today. It was exhilirating....also got a hell of a good deal on beer -- $11/case for Magic Hat & Leinenkugel....I took one of each. The Weller was $29, so not too shabby. Lots of work paid off -- I visited 7 stores. Now I've nabbed 3 VSOFs, OCPR and WC.....it's hard to watch a beautiful dusty spot lose its lustre, but when you're the one plundering, it goes with the territory.

funknik
01-24-2009, 14:51
Got my Weller Centennial 10/100 BHC Frankfort. Good dusty Hunting this weekend.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1650-1.jpghttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1654-1.jpg

funknik
01-31-2009, 13:46
not to beat a dead horse, but here's my latest...just want to keep it all in one place....
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1660.jpg:deadhorse:

Special Reserve
01-31-2009, 14:54
Andy,

Where there are those, there is Weller Centennial, I. W. Harper, and Dickel. Keep looking and you should find.

You'll love Centennial Louisville if you find it.

Will

funknik
02-03-2009, 12:46
Andy,
Where there are those, there is Weller Centennial, I. W. Harper, and Dickel. Keep looking and you should find. You'll love Centennial Louisville if you find it.
Hmmm....interesting developments today. The Maine Beverage Co (evil liquor control conglomerate) posted their tear sheet on Feb 1st and I noticed OCPR, VSOF & Weller Centennial were still on the list. I've cleaned a lot of house lately, but when I've talked to ME Bev Co before they said that no more bottles were available for order, so I figured whatever was on the shelf was all that was left. That is why I am baffled to see these still listed on the tear sheet. I talked to ME Bev Co again today and although they had none of these bottles in their immediate stock, strangely they still encouraged me to place an order at my local liquor store....couldn't hurt, right? I placed an order for two bottles of Centennial which I'm sure won't show up on Friday when the order comes in.
The interesting part was when I talked to the guy at the liquor store I was ordering from he said, "Oh, yeah....I remember seeing these 10 or 12 years ago with the IW Harper....." Bingo. So, there definitely was some Harper & Dickel around also like everyone keeps telling me, I just need to dig those bad boys up. Going on a small hunt Friday, got my route planned....wish me luck!

smokinjoe
02-03-2009, 13:13
Hmmm....interesting developments today. The Maine Beverage Co (evil liquor control conglomerate) posted their tear sheet on Feb 1st and I noticed OCPR, VSOF & Weller Centennial were still on the list. I've cleaned a lot of house lately, but when I've talked to ME Bev Co before they said that no more bottles were available for order, so I figured whatever was on the shelf was all that was left. That is why I am baffled to see these still listed on the tear sheet. I talked to ME Bev Co again today and although they had none of these bottles in their immediate stock, strangely they still encouraged me to place an order at my local liquor store....couldn't hurt, right? I placed an order for two bottles of Centennial which I'm sure won't show up on Friday when the order comes in.
The interesting part was when I talked to the guy at the liquor store I was ordering from he said, "Oh, yeah....I remember seeing these 10 or 12 years ago with the IW Harper....." Bingo. So, there definitely was some Harper & Dickel around also like everyone keeps telling me, I just need to dig those bad boys up. Going on a small hunt Friday, got my route planned....wish me luck!

Good Luck, Andy! There are lots of lurkers who would poach on you. They troll SB.COM to pick up info on availability of cool bottles like these. Next thing you know, they're making money on your hard work. Be careful on what you post, until you've scored. You've put the work into it. You want to make sure you reap the rewards.

funknik
02-03-2009, 13:17
Good Luck, Andy! There are lots of lurkers who would poach on you. They troll SB.COM to pick up info on availability of cool bottles like these. Next thing you know, they're making money on your hard work. Be careful on what you post, until you've scored. You've put the work into it. You want to make sure you reap the rewards.Thank for the advice, Joe...I try to be careful not to give too much away, but I think I'm the only one do any real hunting up here. There are only a handful of stores statewide and I've been pretty surprised that the ones I pulled my big hauls out of hadn't been picked clean already.

Special Reserve
02-03-2009, 13:37
Andy,

Watch where they are distilled and bottled. As a general rule, Louisville > Frankfort.

Good luck hunting.

Will

Buffalo Bill
02-03-2009, 17:26
Went and got the Old Charter Prop I chased down about four weeks ago...was still there...whew! Don't really know anything about it...anybody want to fill me in? Now I have this and 2 VSOFs bunkered.http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1646.jpg

I have tasting notes on BE with that exact bottle. BB

Buffalo Bill
02-03-2009, 17:27
Got my Weller Centennial 10/100 BHC Frankfort. Good dusty Hunting this weekend.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1650-1.jpghttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1654-1.jpg

You really know how to hurt a guy... !!! BB

funknik
02-03-2009, 19:54
I have tasting notes on BE with that exact bottle. BB
I have read your notes, sir...quite a while back....Emerald had a review of that posted, too.

fishnbowljoe
02-08-2009, 19:12
Went dusty hunting today. Score! Two bottles of OCPR, and one bottle of Weller Centennial. At one place I left behind three Weller Centennials, and 5 VSOF. I will return at a later date.:grin: Joe

lohssanami
02-08-2009, 23:56
I thought I'd throw in the BHC bottles I found today. I plan on opening the first one after I pick up a BHC Frankfurt I saw last week so I can compare them. These four are from Louisville, and I left two on the shelf for someone else to find.

mozilla
02-09-2009, 07:01
Realisticly, all of the juice for the Centenials is from UD Louisville. Because, BT bought the label in 1999...and their 10yr juice wouldn't be in the bottle until this year. And since they discontinued the label...it won't happen.

Therefor, all the juice in Centennial bottles is UD.

With the exception of any wheated juice BT was making on contract before the label sold.

p_elliott
02-09-2009, 07:25
I went dusty hunting in Omaha/ Council Bluff this weekend hit a couple of stores apparently they don't drink bourbon there. I thought I had a bad selection here in Podunk Iowa it was worse there. One store the prices were outrageous. The only thing I found was a bottle of KC for $25 at HyVee a grocery store chain.

lohssanami
02-09-2009, 09:21
Realisticly, all of the juice for the Centenials is from UD Louisville. Because, BT bought the label in 1999...and their 10yr juice wouldn't be in the bottle until this year. And since they discontinued the label...it won't happen.

Therefor, all the juice in Centennial bottles is UD.

With the exception of any wheated juice BT was making on contract before the label sold.

Thanks for the info! I've been reading that some people prefer Louisville over Frankfort so I thought there might be a difference. I still may go on, in the name of Science, with the comparison.

Cheers!

funknik
02-10-2009, 20:56
Good luck today.....

GOCOUGS2002
02-10-2009, 21:01
Good luck today.....


Nice find Andy! I am still in search of my first Centennial but I feel a find coming on soon.

kickert
02-11-2009, 05:04
Dang Andy, I hope your wife scrapbooks or something...

funknik
02-11-2009, 07:21
Dang Andy, I hope your wife scrapbooks or something...
Why, so she's not paying attention? :cool:

p_elliott
02-11-2009, 08:46
You people are making me sick with envy :hot: I couldn't find a dusty around here if someone farted dust.

Buffalo Bill
02-12-2009, 11:22
You people are making me sick with envy :hot: I couldn't find a dusty around here if someone farted dust.

I'm in the same boat around here, nothing to be found lately. BB

funknik
02-12-2009, 11:24
I'm in the same boat around here, nothing to be found lately. BB
Did you ever go grab that VSOF, Bill?

Buffalo Bill
02-24-2009, 13:47
Did you ever go grab that VSOF, Bill?

Not yet, the weather and time hasn't permitted me t make the drive. I was thinking about it today.... BB

funknik
02-24-2009, 13:57
Not yet, the weather and time hasn't permitted me t make the drive. I was thinking about it today.... BB
Better go quick lest I get there first! :grin:

just joking...

sotnsipper
02-24-2009, 14:51
I'm in the same boat around here, nothing to be found lately. BB

Well, I finally found a BHC bottle colection last weekend for a wopping price of $400 for all 5 bottles. Lets see.....$80 a bottle.....I passed. I highly doubt the wood display tray and metal labels make up for half the price, I believe $40 a bottle would be more than reasonable. BTW, this is the FIRST dusty find for me. I was greatly disappointed in finding out the price after being so excited that I actually found something like this in my are.

funknik
02-24-2009, 15:21
Well, I finally found a BHC bottle colection last weekend for a wopping price of $400 for all 5 bottles. Lets see.....$80 a bottle.....I passed. I highly doubt the wood display tray and metal labels make up for half the price, I believe $40 a bottle would be more than reasonable. BTW, this is the FIRST dusty find for me. I was greatly disappointed in finding out the price after being so excited that I actually found something like this in my are.That sucks, dude, but you were right to pass, no one with any sense would pay those prices....maybe in another 10 years if it's still there, it'll be worth it.

Buffalo Bill
02-25-2009, 06:44
That sucks, dude, but you were right to pass, no one with any sense would pay those prices....maybe in another 10 years if it's still there, it'll be worth it.

I agree... rip. BB

fishnbowljoe
02-25-2009, 12:52
I wonder if the same person also had them on ebay a while back for around that same price? :skep: Joe

funknik
03-13-2009, 09:00
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/funknik/100_1687.jpg

callmeox
03-13-2009, 09:04
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

fishnbowljoe
03-13-2009, 14:01
He shoots. He scores. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!! Joe

sotnsipper
03-13-2009, 14:03
Andy, Great Score!!! If by chance you don't need all of those, I will gladly take one(or 3)off your hands:rolleyes:. The bottle I acquired is just awesome. I am really limiting myself on this bottle. Maybe one day I will run across another.

funknik
03-13-2009, 14:24
My wife says I call everything my favorite, but of all the bourbons I've had, the S-W juice from this era (and VSOF in particular) is my fav. EC12 is my in-production go to, but VSOF is the biggest treat I can think of -- I was truly blessed to stumble onto this much of it -- thanks to Dave The Warehouse Manager: Mr. Super-Long Ponytail Man!

OscarV
03-13-2009, 14:55
My wife says I call everything my favorite,

I have the same problem, I've got at least a dozen or more in my Top 5.

StraightBoston
03-14-2009, 10:15
Andy: nice haul!

fishnbowljoe
03-14-2009, 20:26
Made a small find today. :lol: Joe

p_elliott
03-14-2009, 22:56
Nice haul there Joe you've been doing that a bit here lately.

fishnbowljoe
03-15-2009, 05:16
Thanks Paul, There 50 mils, but what the heck. At least I can say I have all the BHC now. Joe

StraightBoston
03-15-2009, 05:19
Woo-hoo Joe! I have that same 50 ml set -- when I bought it several years ago, I left another 8 or 9 on the shelf (figuring "they've been there this long...")

Realizing the error of my ways, I went back this past year and they were gone. (Did pick up a WTKS pewter top from that same store, though!)

fishnbowljoe
03-15-2009, 14:24
Kevin, That's strange. I picked up a WTKS pewter top from the same store I found the minis in too. :skep: I hear the music from the Twilight Zone starting up. Joe

PS I left some behind too.

Stones
03-17-2009, 19:41
Hey guys, is the VSOF discontinued as well? I'm talking about the newer bottling version with the 'Very special' grey text around the plastic neck labelling. :skep:

funknik
03-18-2009, 04:12
Hey guys, is the VSOF discontinued as well? I'm talking about the newer bottling version with the 'Very special' grey text around the plastic neck labelling. :skep:
Nope that one is still in production -- a Heaven Hill product. I don't see it around a lot, but I do see it.

Stones
03-18-2009, 23:24
Nope that one is still in production -- a Heaven Hill product. I don't see it around a lot, but I do see it.


Thanks for your info funknik, i never knew it was a HH product, is it rare everywhere or is it readily available elsewhere in other states?

funknik
03-19-2009, 04:20
Thanks for your info funknik, i never knew it was a HH product, is it rare everywhere or is it readily available elsewhere in other states?
I don' think it's rare, I just have a very limited selection where I live. I've seen it in a few stores -- it pops up after I clear out the old dusty versions :grin:
I'll probably start seeing a lot more of it since I'm buying all the dusties and making it look like the label is really moving! It's prominently displayed in the HH literature and on the website, so I think it's a regular production item and probably widely available elsewhere.

sotnsipper
03-19-2009, 05:13
Is it rare everywhere or is it readily available elsewhere in other states?

It is pretty rare around my parts (mid TN) but is available a little east of here.

The Boozer
03-26-2009, 21:54
Andy,

Watch where they are distilled and bottled. As a general rule, Louisville > Frankfort.

Good luck hunting.

Will

Hi Special, can you explain? Is there some threads that show the taste difference. Curious to know why.
TJ

Special Reserve
03-27-2009, 03:18
TB,

The Louisville label precedes the Frankfort label. Some say that the Weller Centennial is the same, some say the OCPR with the sloped shoulder (Louisville) is better that the Frankfort bottling.

I think both are good but if I had a choice, I'd go this the Louisville bottling.

Will

funknik
03-27-2009, 05:20
The Louisville label precedes the Frankfort label. Some say that the Weller Centennial is the same, some say the OCPR with the sloped shoulder (Louisville) is better that the Frankfort bottling.
I think both are good but if I had a choice, I'd go this the Louisville bottling.
Will, I haven't seen a VSOF that's labeled as Frankfort. In fact, as far as I can tell, the current HH bottlings are using the exact same labels as the original BHC version right down to the UPC code. The only distinguishable difference I can see is the VS of the neckband of the current vs. the HC crest on the early ones.

scratchline
03-27-2009, 08:14
Original VSOF=Louisville.

Current VSOF=Bardstown.

mozilla
03-27-2009, 08:17
All Old Fitz is labled as being from Louisville.

scratchline
03-27-2009, 08:22
Oh, Bernheim. I stand corrected. But not the same Louisville as the early bottles.

funknik
03-27-2009, 08:30
All Old Fitz is labled as being from Louisville.
Thank you, Jeff for confirming what I had believed to be true.

mozilla
03-27-2009, 08:49
Stitzel Weller was the home for Old Fitz, Cabin Still, Rebel Yell and Weller until 1992. Then Cabin Still was sold to Heaven Hill and became a ryed bourbon. Also, in 1992 SW's still were shut down and production move up the street to the newly remodled Bernheim distillery(which was the home of Old Charter and IW Harper for many years). The "New" Bernheim made all the brands listed until 1999 when it sold the labels and plant. Charter and Weller went to BT, while Rebel Yell and Old Fitz went to Heaven Hill...to which HH then sold RY to Luxco. IW Harper stayed with it's original owner...Diageo.