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scratchline
01-14-2009, 07:17
This one is for all the contrarians out there. For me, the greatest assets of this board are the palates of its members. I take very seriously the tasting notes and buying recommendations that I read here, and over time, I identify more or less closely with the preferences of any given member. There are experts and novices, but good advice can come from either.

However...

Man being the perversest of apes and taste being infinitely variable, there are times I find my personal drummer leading me far afield from prevailing opinion. So I invite others to join me in my wayward ways and post those whiskies that they find objectionable though all the world may say otherwise.

I'll start things off with pot shots at a couple of sacred cows.

Lot B. Just don't get it. I've had some members suggest that maybe I've had recent BT juice rather than the old SW, but that doesn't really explain it since I love Frankfort Weller Centennial. I don't find Lot B bad, just completely underwhelming. Simple and light. Not much finish. Although this may verge on sacrilege, I consider it the MM of the Van Winkle line. And not enough whiskey for the money. I think the most recent run of VW 10yr 107 dwarfs Lot B. As the price climbs higher, it grows less likely that I will give it another try. That said, Van Blankle is one of the all-time greats.

Weller 12 yr. Not as radical as my position on the Lot B, since this isn't one of the Pillars of Bourbon Wisdom but rather a tremendous value pour. But again, I don't get it. I waited a long time to try it, looking for an old Louisville bottle until a wise board member clued me in that they are all Frankfort. And then, when I finally got around to it, the taste was very one-dimensional and there was a lot of wood on the finish. Way too much wood given the shallowness of the flavor. Now that said, I tasted one of the single barrel bottlings that SB did, and it was stellar, my girlfriend's favorite bourbon.

This is my story and, for the nonce and until the next bottle, I'm sticking to it.

-Mike

kickert
01-14-2009, 07:25
Okay, first things first.... I think you are crazy to criticize Weller 12. ;-) But, to each his own.

Many have heard my rants on things I have found underwhelming, but since you asked...

I am not only not impressed with OGD BIB, I find it down right disgusting. As I have lamented before, it tastes like varnish to me. I am willing to try it again just in case I had a bad bottle (although that seems unlikely with a mass produced bourbon and a screw top), but I will not buy it again.

Also, I am underwhelmed by VOB BIB. I think it has good flavor for the price, but I don't understand the hype many people give it. It makes me think scarcity adds a mystique that inflates ratings. I say that just because I can get it at any store around.

Finally, I was extremely underwhelmed with Pappy 20. It was not bad, but certainly was not worth the $100 a bottle I spent on it. It had too much of a tannic taste and seemed over mellowed.

Josh
01-14-2009, 11:51
There have only been a few bottles that I haven't liked that I've had.

One was a recent bottle of WT 101. It seemed grossly underaged. I've gotten it before and enjoyed it, but this one was just too hot to the degree that I couldn't taste anything else for the rest of the evening, and this was even after I has watered it down to about 86 proof or so.

My next one is OCPR. OK, but too woody, and it has kept me from buying anything that old since. I tried one of acdetroit's Louisville bottles once, and it was better, but still too much wood. I'm sticking to the OC 10 from now on.

This may sound strange, but as much as I love VOB, the only bottle I've ever had of 1792 was the worst bottle of whiskey I've ever tasted. It smelled like rubbing alcohol and tasted worse. The stuff was just foul, so after a couple sips I just dumped the stuff out and encouraged a friend to do the same. Bleck.

So, there we are.

WsmataU
01-14-2009, 14:16
Lot B. Just don't get it. I've had some members suggest that maybe I've had recent BT juice rather than the old SW, but that doesn't really explain it since I love Frankfort Weller Centennial. I don't find Lot B bad, just completely underwhelming. Simple and light. Not much finish. Although this may verge on sacrilege, I consider it the MM of the Van Winkle line. And not enough whiskey for the money. I think the most recent run of VW 10yr 107 dwarfs Lot B. As the price climbs higher, it grows less likely that I will give it another try. That said, Van Blankle is one of the all-time greats.



I agree wth this assesment. I was hoping the Lot B was in the same league as a bottle of VWFR20 that I tried recently. In short, it wasn't. There are several other bottles I'd like to try before I come back to Lot B again.
I haven't tried the VW15 and now I'm curious if I should bother.

sotnsipper
01-14-2009, 14:53
I am not only not impressed with OGD BIB, I find it down right disgusting. As I have lamented before, it tastes like varnish to me. I am willing to try it again just in case I had a bad bottle (although that seems unlikely with a mass produced bourbon and a screw top), but I will not buy it again.

Also, I am underwhelmed by VOB BIB. I think it has good flavor for the price, but I don't understand the hype many people give it. It makes me think scarcity adds a mystique that inflates ratings. I say that just because I can get it at any store around.




It is weird because I have also tried and been disappointed with both of these pours. The OGD BIB, to me, tastes what stinky feet would tast like if you licked them. Yeah, it was that bad for me. The VOB BIB I tried a couple months ago, didn't like, then saw many wonderful reviews about it, so revisited. Still, not good to my taste. It has a sort of wang to it, kind of like bourbon and Tang mixed, but the wang sticks with you for a while. It is good to see others with the same dislikes around here about well liked bourbons and not afraid to take tha flack when you talk about it.

polyamnesia
01-14-2009, 16:17
OGD BIB and even the 114 are unique pours....nothing quite like them....i am sure i posted my DISAPPOINTMENT as well here last year...but as others can attest, OGD grows on you....it's another dimension of the bourbon rainbow. eat some milk or dark chocolate. it opens up. it's one of those hologram bourbons. tricky. lovely. don't give up on the old man!

callmeox
01-14-2009, 18:28
To me, Rowans Creek is all burn and little else. Way more burn than a whiskey of its age should have.



For sotnsipper:

Your comments on OGD reminded me of this underrated 1980s film classic:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMiPjnNF7Dc

BrianT
01-14-2009, 19:11
I agree wth this assesment. I was hoping the Lot B was in the same league as a bottle of VWFR20 that I tried recently. In short, it wasn't. There are several other bottles I'd like to try before I come back to Lot B again.
I haven't tried the VW15 and now I'm curious if I should bother.

I tasted the VW12 Lot B and PVW15 side by side this past Thanksgiving, and the PVW15 had much more depth to it. I went back to KY during the recent holidays looking for more, and couldn't find any. I've heard that there will be no future releases of the 15 yr old.

smokinjoe
01-14-2009, 19:17
To me, Rowans Creek is all burn and little else. Way more burn than a whiskey of its age should have.



For sotnsipper:

Your comments on OGD reminded me of this underrated 1980s film classic:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMiPjnNF7Dc

:lol::lol::lol:OMG!!! "I need my puffer!!!" I knew it. I swear to God, Ox. I read your post first (without looking at the youtube) then looked at Sots, and I said to myself."Gotta be Hollywood Knights" One of my ALLTIME FAVORITES. ":He grabbed it vis hes deeck!!!" Newbomb doing Volare. Ah man, I'm gonna have to rent this one again. It's been a while since I saw it for the 43rd time.

shoshani
01-14-2009, 21:37
I can identify with Hollywood Knights; its action takes place on the day I was born - October 31, 1965.

I think really the only bourbon I have continued to actively dislike that other people love is BT. And I have not had the normal version, but rather a special single-barrel offering, so I must admit that I may not even be disliking the right whiskey.

I didn't like Four Roses Small Batch at first, but after the bottle was open for a while it positively blossomed.

cowdery
01-14-2009, 23:23
Okay, here's my dirty, little secret. I'm not that crazy about Stagg or, really, much of anything over about 12 years old. I can appreciate them, but they're just not what I tend to grab when I want a drink. So I guess I don't get all those people who never seem to rave about anything but the really old stuff. I respect everyone and if you really like the taste, and haven't just been brainwashed into thinking older is always better, then more power to you.

(That said, I have been enjoying some Eagle Rare 17 lately, so go figure.)

funknik
01-15-2009, 04:14
I don't really like the ER10/90 very much. It's in line with what I tend to like as far as proof and age, but this just always comes off as a little lite & flat to me. It's a nice change from heavier, more complex-flavored juice and it seems to vat well with others, but I don't think it's ultimately worth it and the only time I reach for it is as a surrogate to save on other bottles.

cas
01-15-2009, 05:01
I'm not jazzed by OGD 114, which seems to be very popular here.
Craig

gothbat
01-15-2009, 05:18
Speaking solely about the current versions, I'm not really impressed at all with anything OGD, I don't think any of them are that good. I have some ND BIB that I'll get to someday, maybe that will be better but I don't have high hopes for it.

smokinjoe
01-15-2009, 15:32
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, because I used to sing the praises of this one. But, I'm just not that crazy any longer with Rittenhouse 100. I think as I have sampled more and more ryes, this one just doesn't offer me the differentiation any longer. It's just is too bourbon-like for me.

I don't know who I am any longer...:crazy:

TBoner
01-15-2009, 16:01
Okay, here's my dirty, little secret. I'm not that crazy about Stagg or, really, much of anything over about 12 years old. I can appreciate them, but they're just not what I tend to grab when I want a drink. So I guess I don't get all those people who never seem to rave about anything but the really old stuff. I respect everyone and if you really like the taste, and haven't just been brainwashed into thinking older is always better, then more power to you.

(That said, I have been enjoying some Eagle Rare 17 lately, so go figure.)
Chuck, I'm mostly with you. I do like the VWFRR, but many of the extra-aged items don't do much for me. I bought Stagg this year (first time ever) and, while I know it's good, I don't love it. I think a lot of the extra-aged stuff is better off balancing out bottlings with age statements 12 years or less.

Regards,
Tim

jburlowski
01-15-2009, 16:50
Okay, here's my dirty, little secret. I'm not that crazy about Stagg or, really, much of anything over about 12 years old. I can appreciate them, but they're just not what I tend to grab when I want a drink. So I guess I don't get all those people who never seem to rave about anything but the really old stuff. I respect everyone and if you really like the taste, and haven't just been brainwashed into thinking older is always better, then more power to you.

(That said, I have been enjoying some Eagle Rare 17 lately, so go figure.)

I absolutely hear what you're saying Chuck.

But, as I add on the years, I find myself espousing the "older is better" argument more and more....
:lol:

shoshani
01-15-2009, 17:10
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, because I used to sing the praises of this one. But, I'm just not that crazy any longer with Rittenhouse 100. I think as I have sampled more and more ryes, this one just doesn't offer me the differentiation any longer. It's just is too bourbon-like for me.

You know what's weird? I like it BECAUSE of its "bourbony" flavor. Its price has gone up in the last year or two, but it used to be around $12 a bottle for a honey richness that seriously reminded me of Wild Turkey a decade ago.

When I want RYE, I grab Baby Saz or WT Rye :D

barturtle
01-15-2009, 17:30
I've been pretty open for a long time about my disdain of Pappy 23yo

EricABQ
01-15-2009, 17:47
For me it's Pappy 20. Which surprised me because I think Pappy 15 is outstanding. I was pretty excited to try my first bottle of the 20, but I dislike it so much it will be an effort to finish it.

ILLfarmboy
01-16-2009, 11:40
Not everyone likes it but it has gotten quite a bit of chatter here on SB.com lately. EC 12. I use to drink it occasionally but have grown to dislike it, even when getting a good bottle.

MissingKY
01-16-2009, 13:12
I can't really get into VOB BIB, a bourbon I've been tasting off and on since high school. Maybe it's familiarity breeding contempt, but this one just seems really bland to me. I read so many good things about it here on the board, but every time I have a drink of it, I'm underwhelmed. For me, it lacks the assertive little punch I like from a BIB.

snakster
01-16-2009, 17:00
I agree with Lot B, Didn't do a thing for me and that was before the price spike.

I will also chime in on PVW20, just too darn much oak wood taste for me. Like a previous poster alluded, it was actually a chore to finish the bottle.

My last will be Baker's, the alcohol was overwhelming to me at the time. However, I have had a few more experiences since then and it would probably be worth a revisit. If, that is, it was still available in PA. I actually gave my second bottle to my Dad back then. I wonder.....

NYtaster
01-16-2009, 18:15
Okay, here's my dirty, little secret. I'm not that crazy about Stagg or, really, much of anything over about 12 years old. I can appreciate them, but they're just not what I tend to grab when I want a drink. So I guess I don't get all those people who never seem to rave about anything but the really old stuff. I respect everyone and if you really like the taste, and haven't just been brainwashed into thinking older is always better, then more power to you.

(That said, I have been enjoying some Eagle Rare 17 lately, so go figure.)

As far as the 12 YO and older statement goes I'm with you all the way. It seems that there are a lot of bottles being marketed as high end just because they are old. There are some really great old bourbons but most are just too old.

On another note, and I'm sure many here will call this heresy I dont get WTKS. Now I am a big fan of WT products, always have been my goto but the Kentucky Spirit just doesn't stand out as anything special to me, most bottles of Rare Breed put it to shame and in my area the KS commands a 6-8 doller premium.

NYtaster
01-16-2009, 18:18
One more rant if I'm allowed, Snaksters avitar just brought this to mind. Just this week I saw Hirsch at the local store for $239 a bottle. Now I bought one a couple of years back at $80 and thought it was OK but a little over priced but for $239????? It must be the last bottle on earth!

Stu
01-16-2009, 23:11
I'm going to commit the ultimate heresy. I've never had an Old Forrester that I liked. I've tried all the premium bottles that are at the gazebo and it is one whiskey that does absolutely nothing for me. I find it harsh. I know I'm in the minority, but then, I like old whiskey, so tastes differ. I think EC 18 is Heaven Hills finest product.

Old Lamplighter
01-17-2009, 00:09
The first one to come to mind is BT with KC close behind. I find the mustiness of BT totally repulsive and KC just seems like 9yo JBW in small batches.....nothing special. Another couple are OGD Bond & 86. While I have had a lifetime love affair with 114, the other two are badly lacking in depth IMHO.

funknik
01-17-2009, 06:07
I'm going to commit the ultimate heresy. I've never had an Old Forrester that I liked. I've tried all the premium bottles that are at the gazebo and it is one whiskey that does absolutely nothing for me. I find it harsh. I know I'm in the minority, but then, I like old whiskey, so tastes differ. I think EC 18 is Heaven Hills finest product.
I second the OF ban -- I have not dug any that I've had.

ggilbertva
01-17-2009, 07:00
Most of the OGD product available today are ones I avoid. I do have an OGD 114 from 1980 that I find to be quite good. Another product that I find overpriced and undrinkable is Basil Hayden....not my cup of bourbon.

OscarV
01-17-2009, 07:21
I've never had an Old Forrester that I liked. I've tried all the premium bottles that are at the gazebo and it is one whiskey that does absolutely nothing for me. I find it harsh. I know I'm in the minority, but then, I like old whiskey, so tastes differ.

I agree with all that you said, except OF Signature over cracked ice is OK.

NYtaster
01-17-2009, 14:28
The first one to come to mind is BT with KC close behind. I find the mustiness of BT totally repulsive and KC just seems like 9yo JBW in small batches.....nothing special. Another couple are OGD Bond & 86. While I have had a lifetime love affair with 114, the other two are badly lacking in depth IMHO.

Amen to that. KC is on my list of "Why pay more for this" bourbons. I also agree with the OGD 114, great depth and an outstanding value even in NY.

JamesW
01-17-2009, 19:08
I wish I could do a drive-by and pick up all your unloved Pappy 20's!

Firstly, Pappy 15 is my tops. Pappy 20 is second, followed by Weller Centennial. The Lot B I have on the shelf I'll admit has tasted a little "thin" of late but still a fine whiskey. And VSOF 12 is also outstanding. I agree with Chuck that the Staggs etc... are really not all they're cracked up to be, proof is not a measure of quality though some folks on this board are very "wowed" by this feature. That said, the BTAC WLW at 120 proof is quite tastey and a top pick for me.

My disappointments have been many, especially EC18 (and 12), Wild Turkey Rare Breed, and any Beam product save the Parkers Heritage that I find somewhat decent though grossly overpriced.

kickert
01-17-2009, 19:19
any Beam product save the Parkers Heritage that I find somewhat decent though grossly overpriced.

Isn't Parker Beam the Master Distiller at Heaven Hill and not Jim Beam.

ggilbertva
01-17-2009, 19:23
That's correct, Parker is at HH

snakster
01-17-2009, 19:54
One more rant if I'm allowed, Snaksters avitar just brought this to mind. Just this week I saw Hirsch at the local store for $239 a bottle. Now I bought one a couple of years back at $80 and thought it was OK but a little over priced but for $239????? It must be the last bottle on earth!
I hear ya. I bought all my bottles when PA was closing them out at $50. I bought 5 and sent 2 to another SBer at cost. I drank one and loved it. I still love it at $50. I wouldn't pay $239 if it was the last bottle of anything on earth. I'd gladly part with my last two if someone offered that though.

JamesW
01-17-2009, 21:44
Isn't Parker Beam the Master Distiller at Heaven Hill and not Jim Beam.


oops! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif.... that's true... so then I guess I don't like all Beam products save none http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

Josh
01-26-2009, 06:34
Since my beloved VOB and OF have been raked over the coals, I'm going to fess up as to my dislike of a mid-lower shelfer that has been getting alot of attention: Benchmark.

I've had old ones, I've had new ones. Just blah all around, with a hint of unpleasentness. I'm all for high vfm, but for me, Benchmark just does not deliver. I'm going to have to say AAA 10 star doesn't either. Just all burn with no depth. Makes a decent mixer, but for the same price HH or less makes a better one, with a little more sweetness and complexity.

Luna56
01-26-2009, 20:28
Wild Turkey Rare Breed. I really gave this one every opportunity to change my mind but it wasn't to be. There was something about it that kinda turned my stomach a little, like a strong hazelnut flavor or something.

It took me forever to finish the bottle and I hated the last pour as much as the first.

I like WT101 okay, but the Rare Breed was just disgusting to my palate.

Cheers!

OldJack
01-27-2009, 13:56
Anyone who dislikes OGD-BIB or 114 is cordially invited to ship me your unfinished bottles. I will give them a good home.

My votes are as follows:

Henry McKenna BIB. It tasted like halls cough drops. Gross. Unless I become a koala bear in my next life, I will have no need for this bourbon.

And then there are the kissing cousins: Russell's Reserve and WTRB. They are both very nice, but I prefer the WT101 over both of them. So does my bank account.

NYtaster
01-27-2009, 17:15
Wild Turkey Rare Breed. I really gave this one every opportunity to change my mind but it wasn't to be. There was something about it that kinda turned my stomach a little, like a strong hazelnut flavor or something.

It took me forever to finish the bottle and I hated the last pour as much as the first.

I like WT101 okay, but the Rare Breed was just disgusting to my palate.

Cheers!

Luna,

I'm really surprised by your dislike for RB especially since you like the standard WT fare. RB is a step up in my opinion but it can over power if your not ready. I will say it doesnt seem to do well if you are eating and drinking. I'm curious, are you drinking it neat or do you add water? I tend to go neat but there are times that adding a splash is more to my liking, usually if I have been drinking something of a lower proof this is the case.

For me RB is just more "WTish" than 101 and I really find it to be my top WT bottling. I haven't had the chance to try Freedom butr everything else is included in the previous statement. BTW if anyone has a bottle of WTKF to offer please let me know!!!!!

sailor22
01-28-2009, 07:26
Originally Posted by Stu
I'm going to commit the ultimate heresy. I've never had an Old Forrester that I liked. I've tried all the premium bottles that are at the gazebo and it is one whiskey that does absolutely nothing for me. I find it harsh. I know I'm in the minority, but then, I like old whiskey, so tastes differ. I think EC 18 is Heaven Hills finest product.

+1 with emphasis on the Birthday. I have tried several years and it just isn't for me.

Martian
01-28-2009, 10:24
Mike, I'm with you all the way about Weller 12. All I got was harshness and woodiness. Chuck, I'm also with you about age. AAA 10 Star has become one of my favorites. It's a 6 yr., I believe. I don't think I've ever seen Lot B.

Luna56
01-28-2009, 13:11
Luna,

I'm really surprised by your dislike for RB especially since you like the standard WT fare. RB is a step up in my opinion but it can over power if your not ready. I will say it doesnt seem to do well if you are eating and drinking. I'm curious, are you drinking it neat or do you add water? I tend to go neat but there are times that adding a splash is more to my liking, usually if I have been drinking something of a lower proof this is the case.

For me RB is just more "WTish" than 101 and I really find it to be my top WT bottling. I haven't had the chance to try Freedom butr everything else is included in the previous statement. BTW if anyone has a bottle of WTKF to offer please let me know!!!!!

Well, I said I like the WT101 okay, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
I almost always take bourbon neat. If I'm trying a new one I may add a splash for the hell of it.

Yeah, the RB was a big disappointment for me, though I know it's a quality whiskey and is beloved by many here.

Cheers!

Eggman
03-11-2009, 21:03
Howdy,

I just don't "get" knob Creek. It's not bad, but I'm not impressed.

Eggman

Kendall
03-14-2009, 07:53
EC12, I just don't get it.
VOB BIB, ?

ElasticalGomez
03-14-2009, 08:35
to the OP:

funny you mention those two as they were both acquired by me specially last month and i'm in love with both of them and severely sad that i cannot purchase them where i live. as i have found i am much more a rye drinker than a wheat drinker (not rye whiskey but bourbon, mind you) the Weller12 would be a permanent alternative to MM if it were available here. i loved it for it's smooth finish and strong vanilla taste. the Lot B is one of the most subtle and distinguished bourbons i've ever tasted without feeling underwhelming. it would be poured much more often if it were both cheaper and available where i live.

to each his own, of course. many here seem to love the WT101 while i found it "ok" at first and then began noticing that it tasted like Fritos corn chips. blech.

The Boozer
03-16-2009, 14:30
Bourbon. I really don't get a bunch of guys (apparently women too!!) going absolutely ga-ga over whisky. These people spend tons of times (wasted in my opionion), talking, discussing, debating about bourbon. Boring!!. I mean there are packs of these people who actually drive from State to State looking for old bottles of bourbon, that have probably turned rancid, and then sharing and drinking them with each other. Talk about a waste of money. Seriously, these people need to get a ..... wait a minute... I'm on the wrong site.:bigeyes: :bigeyes: I thought this was a scotch site.

(TJ)

Josh
03-16-2009, 16:23
Bourbon. I really don't get a bunch of guys (apparently women too!!) going absolutely ga-ga over whisky. These people spend tons of times (wasted in my opionion), talking, discussing, debating about bourbon. Boring!!. I mean there are packs of these people who actually drive from State to State looking for old bottles of bourbon, that have probably turned rancid, and then sharing and drinking them with each other. Talk about a waste of money. Seriously, these people need to get a ..... wait a minute... I'm on the wrong site.:bigeyes: :bigeyes: I thought this was a scotch site.

(TJ)

No, on a Scotch site they would say condescending things like, "Isn't it cute how the Americans think they actually make whisky? How silly." Or, "No peat? Who would want to drink something that doesn't taste like burning swamp muck?" Stuff like that. :grin:

The Boozer
03-16-2009, 17:10
Josh, you're good. You even picked up on my whisk(e)y spelling. :lol:
TJ

chefnash51
03-17-2009, 09:57
FRSB fell short with me. It was decent enough, but nothing I would go out of my way for .. or spend $40 on again. I still have a fair amount of it left and plan on going back to it soon.

But with my feelings on FRSmB being similar, my expectations are not high.

funknik
03-17-2009, 10:08
FRSB fell short with me. It was decent enough, but nothing I would go out of my way for .. or spend $40 on again. I still have a fair amount of it left and plan on going back to it soon.

But with my feelings on FRSmB being similar, my expectations are not high.
I'm typically overly critical by nature and one night I tried both the Small Batch & Single Barrel for the first time & I liked them both a lot. But I was so wrong about the Small Batch. After choking down about 2/3 of the bottle, I had to give it away to my brother-in-law. I'm afraid to go back to the Single Barrel, in fear that I might have a similarly lacklustre response, so I haven't dared.

Klepackage
03-17-2009, 13:29
For me it's the Rittenhouse Rye BIB. As I mentioned in another thread, it tastes like McCormick that was filtered through potpourri. I tried a better bottle at Dane's, but neither had a taste that will make me come back.

smokinjoe
05-05-2009, 05:08
In my seemingly neverending attempt to find the cheapest quality pour, I have taken the advice of several folks, and tried (and retried, and retried) the Weller Special Reserve. "Better than Maker's", "Best Bang for the Buck", "Lots of flavor", "If you like this, you'll love the SR", are just some of the comments I read on a daily basis. But, I just don't get it. To me, there's just nothing there. No nose, no taste, no finish. The kind of Trifecta I ain't looking for. Interestingly enough, I adore it's bigger sibling, the OWA 107. So, I'm surprised that I find the SR has just 1/10th the flavor of it. It's almost like putting 2 oz of OWA in a large glass, then filling the glass up with 12 oz of water. Blah. Oh well, it'd be boring if we all thunk alike...;)

tommyboy38
05-05-2009, 08:36
I'm not too crazy about Old Forrester. I picked up a bottle of the 100pf after reading a few raves here and it didn't do much for me. Ditto with the OFBB (which I own two bottles of) and are likely candidates as an X-mas gift to my brother in law.

ElasticalGomez
05-05-2009, 11:39
have i said it before? well, it's pretty much confirmed: WT101. tastes like Fritos to me. i gave it a good shot, won't say i'm "done" with it, but i doubt very much i'm going to return to it (though one of my new favorites is RR, oddly enough).

DeanSheen
05-05-2009, 12:21
I'm with you Gomez. I need to give standard Turkey another shot but to me the back of my tounge tastes like I just had perfume sprayed in my mouth.

I do like the RR though.

Attila
05-05-2009, 16:32
GTS, WLW, Saz and OF have not lived up to the hype.

p_elliott
05-06-2009, 07:39
EC12 everyone says how good it is I think it taste like OF 86 and I don't like OF 86.

MrAtomic
05-06-2009, 15:43
Wow.

I'm strangely relieved to learn that other members (with more experienced palates than my own) find extra-aged whiskeys a bit much. Armed with this knowledge, I'm prepared to make a confession: in the past year, I've used a bottle of BMH 23 year-old rye, most of a bottle of Willett 25 year-old bourbon (a gift), and the last quarter of a bottle of PVW 23 in cocktails. At the risk of blaspheming, I preferred them in a Manhattan, Old Fashioned, Whiskey Sour, or Sazerac, rather than neat.

I really enjoy Sazerac 18, PVW 15, WT Tribute, and Eagle Rare 17, but otherwise, I think the oldest American whiskey that I buy with any regularity is EC 12. I recently tasted a tax-stamped 8 year-old WT 101, and appreciated the depth and complexity of its flavor as well as the absence of any musty, overly-woody flavors or dryness. If that eight year-old sweetheart of a whiskey was still available, I don't think I'd drink much else.

Picker22
05-06-2009, 18:35
I'm also a wine drinker, and there is a certain taste that I cannot describe that will immediately turn me off on a wine. The same goes with bourbon, and OGD turned me off from the first sip. I also have had BT and ETL, and both tasted very musty and moldy.

I also find MM to be very underwhelming. Not bad, but I could list a lot more bourbons I would rather have.

Disclaimer.....my taste buds could be damaged from all the years of dippin'......

DeanSheen
05-06-2009, 20:10
OWA

My first bottle didn't do much for me. My second tastes like char. Methinks I'm done.

AAA Ten Year. The bottle I had had no character.