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funknik
02-05-2009, 08:13
When I started out on my bourbon quest, the idea was to try as many kinds, expressions, etc., but as I continue along that glorious bourbon highway, I find myself leaving things I haven't tried on the shelf over and over again in favor of others that I may have had before. This is even with my small Northern New England selection. There are several reasons for this: I've had a taste and wasn't impressed, too expensive, reputation....here's a short list:

Woodford Reserve (had this in a bar once, but I had a spicy dinner and a smoke, so I can't really judge honestly...I usually leave this b/c it's expensive and I haven't heard a lot of favorable talk about it)

Blanton's (I had a 50ml of this and it was okay, not really ready to invest $44 in a 750, though -- over-ripe fruit was my major flavor)

Jim Beam Black (I had this once and didn't like it as much as the JBW, so why spend the $ -- plus I don't really buy Beam anyway)

Booker's & Basil Hayden (I like both of these - mostly price)

Maker's Mark (I continue to be underwhelmed by this)

Russell's Reserve 90 (I like WT101 just fine and if I'm going to spring, I may as well go for the RB)

WTKS (don't know what has stopped me here -- mostly price I guess, but also availability --it disappears from shelves for months at a time)

Kentucky Tavern, Rebel Yell, Ten High, Old Crow (for the time being I still have my job, so I haven't felt the need to go dumpster diving, but I may yet find myself in that position)

Jack Daniel's SB, GJ (can't get myslef to spend the cash on this stuff, don't know why)

Anyway, anyone else ignore stuff on purpose, I'm probably shorting myself, but I got nothing but time.

theDon
02-05-2009, 08:25
Basil Hayden & Old Charter Private Reserve (Who the hell wants to pay that much for an 80 proof bourbon)

I don't usually just ignore them. They get the mental finger when I walk by.

spun_cookie
02-05-2009, 08:44
WTKS (don't know what has stopped me here -- mostly price I guess, but also availability --it disappears from shelves for months at a time)

If you find a pewter top, just go ahead and pick that up for me :)

Look for a sale on this or one as close to $40 as you can and get it. The darker the juice in the bottle the better, but all of these are pretty good.

I have not seen anyone complain about any of these, less the Willy Walace bottle, and all of the ones that I have had, less the Willy Walace bottle, have been good to great.

Your rank should be:

Pewter Top
Dark Top no WT imprint
Dark Top WT imprint
Light Top
You will find these rank by older to newer, but sometimes that age gets faded so the above is a cheat sheet.

Slob
02-05-2009, 09:32
I feel the same way. I've found myself ignoring basically all Beam products, anything less than 90 proof, and anything over $35 that posters here don't go absolutely bonkers over. With Rittenhouse BIB at 19 bucks, it's almost impossible to buy anything else. The stuff is so good and at that price I feel like I'm stealing it.

fishnbowljoe
02-05-2009, 14:16
A couple that I haven't paid too much attention to, are Blanton's, and Basil Hayden's. I have tasted Basil Hayden's, and it didn't do anything for me one way or another. I keep wavering on Blanton's. One time I'll think about buying a bottle, the next time I won't even give it a second thought. I'll just pass it by, and check out what else is available. Joe

sotnsipper
02-05-2009, 14:46
A couple I ignore are all JD products, too overpriced for what they are. Most of the JB products, still like the OGD 114. I tend to ignore anything 80 proof, these are usually one dimensional and just do not do it for me. Anything in a plastic bottle, unless they offer a glass bottle. I am pretty open to anything that fits the proof/price range. Have been burned on accasion, but have been pleasantly pleased as well. I have been ignoring anything over $45 for a 750 but honestly think I am missing out on a lot doing this. Yes, I admit, I am a tight wad:rolleyes: when it comes to my purchases.

OscarV
02-05-2009, 15:33
If you find a pewter top, just go ahead and pick that up for me :)

Look for a sale on this or one as close to $40 as you can and get it. The darker the juice in the bottle the better, but all of these are pretty good.

I have not seen anyone complain about any of these, less the Willy Walace bottle, and all of the ones that I have had, less the Willy Walace bottle, have been good to great.

Your rank should be:

Pewter Top
Dark Top no WT imprint
Dark Top WT imprint
Light TopYou will find these rank by older to newer, but sometimes that age gets faded so the above is a cheat sheet.


Andy, Emerald is right, but I have been let down by every bottle in the light wood top.
They are all to young.
Except for an old dark wood top or pewter top I am not buying anymore WTKS until the '09's come out.
I'll give them another try then.

cowdery
02-05-2009, 16:54
I tend to ignore everything from non-distiller producers, with a few exceptions.

Blitz
02-05-2009, 17:25
I tend to ignore the $30-$40 price range. I don't have a problem paying $50 for Bookers, Pappy 15 or Handy. You can argue if they are worth the price, but at least they are distinct. Everything I have tried so far in the $30-$40 price range just has not been special enough for the price, i.e. Woodford, Old Pogue, Basil Hayden, WT Rare Breed.

Is there something in that price range that should not be ignored?

TomH
02-05-2009, 17:34
Personally, I like 4 Roses Single barrel which would fall in that price range (especially a couple of the Binny's hand picked selections).

Tom



I tend to ignore the $30-$40 price range. I don't have a problem paying $50 for Bookers, Pappy 15 or Handy. You can argue if they are worth the price, but at least they are distinct. Everything I have tried so far in the $30-$40 price range just has not been special enough for the price, i.e. Woodford, Old Pogue, Basil Hayden, WT Rare Breed.

Is there something in that price range that should not be ignored?

Blitz
02-05-2009, 17:42
Personally, I like 4 Roses Single barrel which would fall in that price range (especially a couple of the Binny's hand picked selections).

Tom

You know, I thought someone would say this. I've heard really good things about that one. I just haven't gotten to it yet. Thanks for the suggestion.

The Boozer
02-05-2009, 22:08
Yea,
Anything with the label that says "Old Bourbon" - aged 36 months.

Chuck says it taste like cold pie


:skep: TJ

theDon
02-06-2009, 20:14
I tend to ignore everything from non-distiller producers, with a few exceptions.

A few exceptions? Do tell.

Attila
02-07-2009, 05:28
A few exceptions? Do tell.

The only one that comes to my mind is the Old Rip / Van Winkle lines.

Attila
02-07-2009, 06:41
generally whiskies with no age statement, but in particular single barrel whiskies that have no age statement .

unclebunk
02-07-2009, 06:53
A few exceptions? Do tell.

And I like the Michter's 10 Year Old Rye, wherever it comes from.

polyamnesia
02-07-2009, 12:17
andy, i agree in many ways....i though get bored and often get lazy and go for something i wouldn't jump for IF it's on sale...i still get bit....but i admit i am glad i paid $18.99 for this 750ml of JB BLACK...i am about to tasting notes on it...i've had one smaller bottle before and it took a pour to get adjusted to it...86 is a respectable proof...not what i prefer, but i am really enjoying it....much more than the overdressed, underwhelming BHayden....

and JD.....fun to bash...but i have enjoyed the GJ (prefer THAT 80 to the Hayden...)...price sucks, but it and any JD above the GJ is worth a stab....just find it on sale....or get it as a gift! (i haven't yet....).

cowdery
02-07-2009, 13:20
The only one that comes to my mind is the Old Rip / Van Winkle lines.

Bingo. Maybe others, but that's what I had in mind.

Kendall
02-10-2009, 17:56
Bingo. Maybe others, but that's what I had in mind.
Why?????????????????

GOCOUGS2002
02-11-2009, 06:06
Woodford, Basil Hayden, Blanton's and JBW all get passed over; I have tried each, but didn't like them enough to stock on the shelf.

Edward_call_me_Ed
02-11-2009, 06:16
generally whiskies with no age statement, but in particular single barrel whiskies that have no age statement .

But that means no Blanton's and no Elmer T Lee. Both favorites of mine. Ed

kickert
02-11-2009, 06:25
I have been ignoring this thread... but not intentionally....

I tend to ignore HH products that aren't EC or EWSB. I do the same for Beam except for their Small Batch Collection. I also ignore KBD stuff... I don't know why, but I do.

ElasticalGomez
02-12-2009, 15:48
Is there something in that price range that should not be ignored?

have you tried the EC18? it's certainly not my favorite...but as a special occasion drink, it's definitely like no other bourbon i've tried thus far. worth at least a purchase once in yer lifetime i'd say.

as i am a bourbon n00b, meaning up until this year i'd only branched out in the areas of expensive scotches while KC and MM were my trusted bourbons. now...as of the past few months those two are COMPLETELY ignored when i go to the store. i feel like i'm having an affair because my girlfriend became unattractive and boring. :lol:

anyway, Blanton's. i just bought a bottle (seriously, thank you tax returns) and while i doubt i'll be buying this very often, i'd attribute that to the price rather than the pour. i am very pleased with this bourbon!

Blitz
02-12-2009, 16:17
[quote=ElasticalGomez;159737]have you tried the EC18? it's certainly not my favorite...but as a special occasion drink, it's definitely like no other bourbon i've tried thus far. worth at least a purchase once in yer lifetime i'd say.

EC18 is $45 around here, so it doesn't fit my $30-$40 criteria. Still struggling to find something in that price range thats worthy. As long as you asked though, I have not tried the EC18 yet. I had a bad experience with EC12. Just hated it. So I am weary of his big brother.

Buffalo Bill
02-13-2009, 05:31
I tend to ignore everything from non-distiller producers, with a few exceptions.


I tend to ignore everything from non-distiller producers, with a few exceptions.

I'm with Chuck on this one... same here. And Emerald is right-on-target with the WTKS. Those Pewter tops were the best along with the plain dark wood tops, second. The darker the juice the better. I have a 2005 Valentines Day edition open here (2-14-05) that's absolutely incredible; full of nuts, wood, and cherry. I dropped it down (decanted) to a 375ml to save it. The light wood tops I wouldn't give anything for... they bore me, but interestingly enough -WTKS and Woodford's are both choices I tend to drink on ice. Good summer bourbon too... Although, this Valentines Edition is too good for ice, only neat. Additionally, color was the reason I purchased this latest bottle of Sam Houston, real dark chestnut brown - and it has impressed me right down to the bottom last few. Three to four weeks later and the stuff is still excellent (without nitro) and it will be empty by the weekend. BB

Buffalo Bill
02-13-2009, 05:35
I have been ignoring this thread... but not intentionally....

I tend to ignore HH products that aren't EC or EWSB.

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Ditto!

BB

sotnsipper
02-13-2009, 06:51
Is there something in that price range that should not be ignored?


I would give OF SIG a try if you have not. You can usually got the 1.75 in this price range.

ElasticalGomez
02-13-2009, 07:50
EC18 is $45 around here, so it doesn't fit my $30-$40 criteria. Still struggling to find something in that price range thats worthy. As long as you asked though, I have not tried the EC18 yet. I had a bad experience with EC12. Just hated it. So I am weary of his big brother.

ahh, unfortunate. i may be mistaken about it's price...i seem to remember i bought it on sale for $34.95. anyway, what about the ec12 did you hate? because the ec18 has a very specific taste, but it's a pretty elegant pour, imo.

Josh
02-13-2009, 07:58
From what I've tasted, ignoring KBD is a good idea on the whole with the exception of Rowan's Creek which is really good. I'd like to try Noah's Cistern or whatever it is that is an older version.

Blitz
02-13-2009, 14:52
ahh, unfortunate. i may be mistaken about it's price...i seem to remember i bought it on sale for $34.95. anyway, what about the ec12 did you hate? because the ec18 has a very specific taste, but it's a pretty elegant pour, imo.

I'll keep my eye out for EC18 on sale, I do want to try it. As far as EC12, my bottle tasted like plywood. This bourbon seems to have one of the widest range of opinions on this board. Many have have called it inconsistent. Even fans of EC12 have reported that they have gotten a bad bottle. I may love it next time I try it, if that ever happens.

Attila
02-14-2009, 15:45
But that means no Blanton's

I always thought it odd that they had a dumped on date info, but no distilled on date info on their bottles.

Attila
02-14-2009, 15:46
I'd like to try Noah's Cistern

If you are referring to Noah's Mill, then I'd definitely recommend a try, very good stuff.

luv2hunt
02-15-2009, 19:40
If you are referring to Noah's Mill, then I'd definitely recommend a try, very good stuff.


OK, I have an unopened bottle of that and we've never tried it.....time to open it.

Dawn

Special Reserve
02-22-2009, 18:09
Went bourbon hunting today...

I intentionally ignored a OCPR in the "gin bottle" and a Weller Centennial Frankfort. Both were priced $49.95.

I couldn't ignore the case of GTS 2008.

Will

Buffalo Bill
02-24-2009, 07:00
Yesterday I ignored the Old Overholt, JD Black & Green, and naturally the Beam White. BB