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Picker22
05-06-2009, 18:49
Has anyone tried Mark Twain by Heaven Hill? My local retailler just got some in the other day and gave me a taste. I didn't think it was too bad for $10. Always looking for another everyday pour for my bunker.

spun_cookie
05-06-2009, 19:23
great stuff.... get it

Picker22
05-08-2009, 18:23
Hey S_C.....thanks for the recommendation. Bought some this evening, and a very good bourbon for $10.

G-Rat
05-09-2009, 08:45
I wish the stuff we got here was the same as the 12 year old 100proof version they ship to Japan. Here it looks like another pretty low end 3 year old 80 proof version of Heaven Hill bourbon...which is fine I'll drink it and like it for sure especially for $10...but 12 year 100 proof sounds like my kind of juice man!

independant
05-09-2009, 10:39
I wish the stuff we got here was the same as the 12 year old 100proof version they ship to Japan. Here it looks like another pretty low end 3 year old 80 proof version of Heaven Hill bourbon...which is fine I'll drink it and like it for sure especially for $10...but 12 year 100 proof sounds like my kind of juice man!

Are you talking about the red label Evan Williams?

Is mark twain a current product from heaven hill. I have never seen it.

G-Rat
05-09-2009, 10:59
If you look up some threads for mark twain you will find some that link to Japanese websites that sell a whiskey called Mark Twain Bourbon. It is 12 yrs old 100proof, $36, has that Evan Williams bottle look and distinct Heaven Hill label and is...foolishly only sold in Japan:hot:

In the states (perhaps particularly in Missouri?) a bourbon is sold from Heaven Hill called Mark Twain bourbon. It is only 80 proof and is only $10. Perhaps someone could clarify but I don't think that with the price point and reduction in proof the one sold here in America is simply the japanese version cut to 80proof...more likely it is, like Cabin Still and Henry McKenna a lower proof bourbon that is definitely worth $10 but there are better bourbon Heaven Hill makes.

Stu
05-09-2009, 11:16
Gotta remember the market. Here (especially in MO ie Ozarks) most people just want something to spike their soft drink or shoot with a beer. Good stuff for $10/jug will sell much better than a 12 year old high proof that would probably cost $30 +/-. Remember they're competing with JB White, not KC. Terrible thing to say, but Americans as a whole have been conditioned since childhood to think that whiskey is a nasty adult drink consumed solely for the purpose of getting drunk. In Japan and Europe people drink for the taste and enjoyment of the beverage, like most folks on this forum. Next time in I'm in MO I'll look for it and try a bottle, however.

G-Rat
05-09-2009, 11:45
So true Stu...so true...

And I think the worst KSBW from Heaven Hill is 1000xs better than JB White...Whew
So Mark Twain would be a real bargain

independant
05-10-2009, 03:49
Gotta remember the market. Here (especially in MO ie Ozarks) most people just want something to spike their soft drink or shoot with a beer. Good stuff for $10/jug will sell much better than a 12 year old high proof that would probably cost $30 +/-. Remember they're competing with JB White, not KC. Terrible thing to say, but Americans as a whole have been conditioned since childhood to think that whiskey is a nasty adult drink consumed solely for the purpose of getting drunk. In Japan and Europe people drink for the taste and enjoyment of the beverage, like most folks on this forum. Next time in I'm in MO I'll look for it and try a bottle, however.

That is so true being new to bourbon it really is so disappointing when I found out that there were so many great bourbons out there that I can't get because they are shipped over seas. why can't they at least offer them here even at limited quantities so I could have a chance at them.

Picker22
05-10-2009, 18:03
For anyone in KC that is interested, I bought it at the Gomer's in Lee's Summit on 291.

G-Rat
05-10-2009, 18:28
Picker22 -

How would this stuff compare to say regular Evan William Black?

Thanks for buying a bottle. I always like trolling the bottom shelf looking for a bargain. Is this one worth it?

G

Jono
05-11-2009, 08:13
Speaking of Twain:

"There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable, and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry."
Mark Twain

Mark Twain Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey label

http://www.twainquotes.com/WaterWhiskey.html

Mark Twain in an advert for Old Crow:

http://www.twainquotes.com/Abstinence.html

TNbourbon
05-11-2009, 18:42
...Twain:
"There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable, and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry."
...
Love it! Reminds me of another Twain/bourbon quote, when a bottle was found in a suitcase he'd claimed contained only clothing:
"It's the truth, sir! That is my much-needed nightcap!"
Mark Twain was so far ahead of his time he is still ahead of ours.
From The World's Best Bartenders' Guide:
"...during one trip to London, Mark Twain's visit to the Savage Club outlasted his supply of bourbon. Hearing of the calamity, British friends obtained two cases from an importer and presented them to the author 'as a testimonial of admiration and affection.' A few days later, a telegram forced Twain to cut short his stay, and leave behind his two cases of bourbon. 'I will be back very shortly,' he promised the Savage Club management. 'Save them for me. Let no one touch them while I am gone.'
"Twain never returned to The Savage Club, but the proprietors respected his wish. Shortly before the club was destroyed during World War II, a reporter for the Detroit Free Press, Daniel Bingay, heard the story and decided to see for himself if it was true. The club's manager led him to a sub-basement, where Bingay found the two cases wrapped in heavy oilcloth. A large label read: 'Property of Samuel L. Clemens (Mark Twain)'. Bingay informed the manager that Twain was dead.
"'That matters not, sir. He told us to keep them here until he returned. And that we shall do.'
"Only Luftwaffe bombs were able to break that promise..."

Picker22
05-11-2009, 18:50
Hey G-Rat.....what a coincidence. I just bought my first Evan Williams Black Label today and have to say that I am not a fan (although EWSB is one of my favorites). I would definitely recommend Mark Twain over EWBL. For $10, I say give MT a shot (no pun intended......)

G-Rat
05-11-2009, 22:31
Picker22 -

Thanks for the quick reply and review. Evan Williams Black has been a little flat for me too lately. I will have to try the Mark Twain then...sounds interesting. I am not the biggest fan of 80 proof bourbon but I like Heaven Hill so for $10...why not.

nor02lei
05-12-2009, 02:30
I got a 12 year Mark Twain bottled in the 70-is in my bunker. Unfortunately its only 86 proof. I have not tasted it yet.

Leif

p_elliott
05-12-2009, 08:04
Love it! Reminds me of another Twain/bourbon quote, when a bottle was found in a suitcase he'd claimed contained only clothing:
"It's the truth, sir! That is my much-needed nightcap!"
Mark Twain was so far ahead of his time he is still ahead of ours.
From The World's Best Bartenders' Guide:
"...during one trip to London, Mark Twain's visit to the Savage Club outlasted his supply of bourbon. Hearing of the calamity, British friends obtained two cases from an importer and presented them to the author 'as a testimonial of admiration and affection.' A few days later, a telegram forced Twain to cut short his stay, and leave behind his two cases of bourbon. 'I will be back very shortly,' he promised the Savage Club management. 'Save them for me. Let no one touch them while I am gone.'
"Twain never returned to The Savage Club, but the proprietors respected his wish. Shortly before the club was destroyed during World War II, a reporter for the Detroit Free Press, Daniel Bingay, heard the story and decided to see for himself if it was true. The club's manager led him to a sub-basement, where Bingay found the two cases wrapped in heavy oilcloth. A large label read: 'Property of Samuel L. Clemens (Mark Twain)'. Bingay informed the manager that Twain was dead.
"'That matters not, sir. He told us to keep them here until he returned. And that we shall do.'
"Only Luftwaffe bombs were able to break that promise..."

Great story Mark Twain couldn't have wrote it better himself

fatheadfred
05-29-2009, 13:53
My first post, woohoo. I drink the Twain. It is our standby. Good for ice, good for filling the flask for an outing. Smooth for the price and wow, the price. A grocer in town runs sales on it 1 week per month for $7.40 a liter. Yeah, a liter, not 750 ml like most booze. There are certainly better bourbons, but for the price, it can't be beat.