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jeff
11-18-2002, 20:21
OK. We've talked about our top 5, our bottom five, and everything in between. What I want to know is: What do you think is the best bourbon for the price thats being asked for it? I mean, what bourbon provides the best flavor profile for its price. It could be Kentucky Spirit for $40 or Ten High for $5.95. What do you think?

My personal preference, as I'm sure you know by now, is OF 100 proof. This bourbon packs the most flavor for the best price. I think what makes it my choice is that I would easily pay $20 for this one. At $15 it's a steal!

kgiammarco
11-19-2002, 05:07
I would have to say virginia gentlemen 90 proof... mid/bottom shelf price, top shelf taste...

-Chris

bobbyc
11-19-2002, 05:27
I don't know if Murphydawg is gonna be with me here but I'll say Ezra 7 year 101 packs the best bang for the buck. We need to quit doing this however , they may raise the price! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

MurphyDawg
11-19-2002, 09:18
Yep its a dead heat with Old Ezra 7/ AAA 10 in my book, on the high end I thing Wathens (@ 22 when I bought it) is a great value.


TomC

**DONOTDELETE**
11-19-2002, 13:39
Jeff the best bourbon is whatever tastes best to you for the amount of money you are willing, and able to pay. You're trying to kill me here! The bourbons that I like best are unaffordable to me as an everyday choice, but I have a 'short list' of about 20 bourbons that I keep on hand at all times. I can't afford to drink them everyday, but I sacrifice in other areas of my life in order to do so. Many bourbon drinkers simply can't do so for various reasons. We should be mindful of this. That being said - yes I think that Kentucky Spirit is the very best bourbon going and worth every penny. I only wish that I could afford to drink it any time I wanted it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif

CL
11-19-2002, 17:50
EWSB for $22. It wasn't too long ago it was $20 with occasional specials to $17.

hollywood
11-19-2002, 19:14
All, Here is my vote and/or two cents! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif I believe it was Jeff who voted for the OF 100. I do believe this pour is one of the better for the money. ie: A quality bourbon that is affordable. I am a WT fan, and do believe they make the best bourbon for the money although. All of their bourbons...from the 80 proof (great sippin' whiskey) to the WT Rare Breed and Kentucky Spirit. Even though these last two are higher priced than many (as has been discussed), are still arguably the best bourbons going! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif So, if your pocketbook is light...drink the 80...or if you just got paid...reach for the top shelf. By the way, I don't feel I'm settling a great deal if I reach for the 80 anyway! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

MurphyDawg
11-19-2002, 19:29
There is but a mere $2.00 difference between the 80 & 101 proof WT bourbons at my local store, and for that price I will skip right to 101! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

TomC

jeff
11-19-2002, 19:44
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the best bourbon is whatever tastes best to you for the amount of money you are willing, and able to pay

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Linn, I think this is understood, but for the sake of entertainment and banter I thought it would be fun to hear what others thought was the best taste:dollar ratio. I mean we can all sit around and post "hey, I like what I like beacause I like it" but if we don't tell each other what that is and why, we would likely stop talking http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

To me Booker's at $40 is a better value than Russell's Reserve is at $23. OF 100 at $15 is better than AAA at $12. KS at $40 is better than most everything else http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

ratcheer
11-19-2002, 19:46
I will name three, I can't really choose between them. So, in no particular order: Wild Turkey 101 @ $19, Old Forester 100 @ $16, and Old Grand Dad 114 @ $22 (from out of state).

Tim

jeff
11-19-2002, 19:48
The thing I like about WT 80 is that you can drink more of it comfortably at one sitting http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

I tend to like WT80 a lot. I think it is a very smooth pour. I think WT101 is more like RB and KS, but it lacks a certain smoothness that the others have. Meijer's hat WT80 on closeout for $9.50 while supplies lasted...Lets just say they didn't http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

hollywood
11-19-2002, 19:55
Rat, I have bought OGD 114 in MS, and in GA. I think you're right at $20-23. I like the taste, and Yeaaaah its strong! Maybe somebody can shed some light...both of my bottles have a Lot # of 1 on the back. Is there any other Lots? Is this like a Rick#? Thanks, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

hollywood
11-19-2002, 21:03
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT! Do I dare say that my point was well received! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Salute!! See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

MurphyDawg
11-19-2002, 23:30
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To me Booker's at $40 is a better value than Russell's Reserve is at $23. OF 100 at $15 is better than AAA at $12. KS at $40 is better than most everything else

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While I agree that whatever you like most will be the best value to you some food for thought:

Is one bottle of Bookers worth 3 bottles of Jim Beam Black??

Is one Bottle of kentucky spirit worth 2 bottles of Rare Breed/Russells Reserve or possibly 3 bottles of Wt 80 or 101?? These are roughly the exchange rates if I were to buy them in local stores. I am rock solid in agreeing with you that both Booker's and Kentucky Spirit outway their counterparts quality wise, but valuewise, the inflation from one shelf to the next can be very hard to swallow. I was suprised to find out today when I took stock of what bourbon I have, that I only have two bottles that cost more than $30 in my house, Weller 19 &amp; Old Forester Birthday Bourbon. For the most part, I havent been able to convince myself that any bourbon is worth that much.


Just My Humble Mutterings,


TomC

Blackkeno
11-20-2002, 00:26
EWSB would probably be my current top choice for best value. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif My all time best value would be Weller Centennial--but it's not generally available now. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif (I've also heard the last release might not be up to previous standards.) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif

jeff
11-20-2002, 05:04
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Is one bottle of Bookers worth 3 bottles of Jim Beam Black??


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IMHO: Absolutely http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Not that I am buying Booker's or KS as an everyday bourbon, but I reckon I do get about three times the enjoyment out of a glass of Booker's as I would say JB black. The WT bourbons are a little trickier. I might have to think twice if I could get 2 bottle of Rare Breed or 1 bottle of KS...but I can't. RB is $30 while KS is $40. Is it worth $10 more to me...yes. Is it worth $17 more than RR...to me yes. Do I drink it everyday? I wish http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

bluesbassdad
11-20-2002, 15:03
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Is one bottle of Bookers worth 3 bottles of Jim Beam Black??


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TomC,

I haven't participated in this discussion for a reason that is highlighted by your question. The answer to your question, as with all questions regarding microeconomics, is "It depends".

Just suppose that your income and assets equaled those of Bill Gates, that you and he were buddies, and you went liquor shopping together one day. Can you seriously imagine that either of you would pick WT101 over Kentucky Spirit? (I had to change the brand and expressions because I've yet to become a fan of Booker's.) Presumably you and Bill would value the difference in enjoyment between those two expressions just as much as you and I would back here in the real world.

However, you and Bill would place almost no value on the dollar difference in their prices. With no budget restrictions to worry about, neither of you would be faced with the choice of two bottles of one versus one bottle of the other. You could buy KS by the case -- even a case for each of your friends -- without the slightest concern that such an expenditure would impact the health of your bank statements or your domestic relationships.

Economists deal with such matters by talking about the "marginal utility of income", "marginal propensity to consume", and other arcane terms. In shirtsleeve English, all that means is that if you have enough money, price literally becomes no object, and price-to-value becomes meaningless. One additional dollar means everything if you're starving, but practically nothing if every need is already satisfied.

Therefore, the question you posed, like the question that started this thread, addresses personal wealth as much as personal taste. If we were all equally wealthy, then we could have fun discussing the choice between drinking $40 bourbon every day versus buying a Porsche rather than a Geo. However, I suspect there are people in our group who can afford both, just as others of us can afford neither. In that case our differing perceptions of price-to-value have little to do with our enjoyment of bourbon.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

hollywood
11-20-2002, 17:51
B'B'D, What flashbacks! You took me back to the days of college Economics! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif...or was it Philosophy!?...Hmmm....Milton Friedman, or Plato? Anyway, nice angle to ponder. See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

submarine
11-20-2002, 17:59
"One additional dollar means everything if you're starving, but practically nothing if every need is already satisfied."


You know,
I used to see this homeless guy with one leg begging for money and on occasion I'd give him a buck.

One day found myself in line behind him at a hamburger place. I was wondering what he would order perhaps a few $ .99 burgers? Nope, he ordered a $6.00 chicken, bacon, and avocado sandwich. Given a choice between six burgers or one tasty "California Chicken" sandwich the homeless man went for the goods. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif

That being said best bourbon regardless of money is not the same thing as best bourbon "for the money”.

My novice vote goes to OF 100 or 86 I like them both http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif .

John F

bobbyc
11-20-2002, 18:04
Dave, If I may, I will not attempt to cover all of your post because you have left quite a bit to ponder. First of all , while everything you are saying is valid , I think you've jumped threads a bit here. It seems that it would go better in Linn's poll about the billion dollars, and what that would change. Bill Gates isn't a good example either . I used to get Zooba sent to me and they had a thing about Bill's house and how one would get a wristband and program their preferences of art and Music etc , so if I was his guest I would be listening to The Moody Blues and seeing VanGogh thru out as I moved from room to room. While You may listen to The Beatles Or Frank Sinatra and see works by Michealangelo, And Murphydawg may listen to Nirvana and view Peter Max . Linn would have handlily have found the Liquor Cabinet by this time and wondering when in the hell someone would turn on the music.......but I digress. ( by the way I think this is a very cool setup, and probably some form of it will be available to us low rent smucks in 10or 20years)( Also has sound in the swimming pool) The whole spread set ol' Billy back about 28 million I think.Relative to what he is worth that represents what 500 bucks is to you and I.Not even a Months rent on a 2 bedroom Apartment and he has housing bought and amortized for a lifetime. What would Bill Drink? He's probably too busy pinching himself to see if it is all real and giggling to bother with drinking any of the aged byproduct of cattle food made in Kentucky!( If we are going to get this in perspective , might as well begin by calling it what it is)
Yeah when we get to the point , And Dave your point is well taken on this, where money is no object , One might as well drink the good stuff , Or expensive as per this example.
I think the intrinsic value is the same , It's just going to be worth a lot less to Bill than it is to me and Tom( Probably wondering why he even mentioned this by now)C. I think that on some other level the value is going to be static ( in a relative way) ( there I go again) ( Does anyone besides the core group here really read this) ( does anyone besides me think this is funny?) . A bottle of Wathens will always be better and 90% of people who have tasted these Bourbons will agree than a 19 YO Weller that costs 2 times as much.( I Should not have compared a wheater to a rye That's not the point of this comparison ) And If ( God Forbid ) that My house were burning, my 2 cats and a box of family photos is worth more than all the juice in the cellar.
Neither of our posts ,Dave, really answer Tom's question but it does seem like while we are both off on tangents here,there is more than one way to look at all this. I'm going to begin another thread elsewhere ( Do we really need that?) You'll know it when you see it and It will hopefully give us a little more to think about . http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

jeff
11-20-2002, 20:34
Hmm, Have you ever had an idea that you thought would be interesting, but either you could not properly convey what you meant, or it was taken out of context and blown out of porportion? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

bluesbassdad
11-21-2002, 00:38
Jeff,

If you knew me on a face-to-face basis, it wouldn't surprise you at all when I take something out of context or blow something out of proportion. I don't set out to be tangential; it's just my nature. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif ("That's just Dave being Dave", one might say.)

To get things back on track here, I'll state for the record that given my bourbo-economic status the best bourbon for the money is Wild Turkey 101.

However, if the stockmarket takes another hit, my choice of best bourbon for the money may become Old Rite-Aid Pharmacy (bottled in San Jose, CA) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif . (And if I hit the Lotto, y'all be watching for a case... make that a bottle ... of Kentucky Spirit via UPS. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif )

In all seriousness, I offer my apology for diverting your thread from your original intent.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

MurphyDawg
11-21-2002, 00:40
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That being said best bourbon regardless of money is not the same thing as best bourbon "for the money"

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Which is EXACTLY the point I was tring to make!!!

Examples
The Most Expensive Bourbon I have tried : Hirsch 20 (which is going for $150+ in places).

The Most Expensive Bourbon I Own:: W.L. Weller 19 ($40)

My Favorite Bourbon: Russell's Reserve 10 Year ($24)

Best Bourbon For The Money: Ancient Ancient Age 10 Year ($11).

The point I was trying to make wasfo me if a bourbon is going to be the best bourbon for your buck, you have to get quality that outreaches the price of the bourbon. Bourbon like Kentucky Spirit, where some habe to pay upwards to $50, are top dollar bourbons and so I EXPECT top quality products in the bottle every time. It is situations like AAA 10 where ther quality outweighs the price, (mid shelf quality for bottom shelf prices) that I feel I am getting a bang for my buck. No One doubts that single barrels like Kentuck Spirit are great, just for the price, I expect them to be that way.


Tom (good thread idea, Jeff) C

MurphyDawg
11-21-2002, 00:43
I am sorry we digressed so much, but dont you think the fact that it has generated so many well thought out responses IS interesting?? I mean you can learn a lot about fellow members socio-economic position as well as what we may define as "value" from the responses here. . . . fascinating stuff.



TomC

MurphyDawg
11-21-2002, 00:48
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so if I was his guest I would be listening to The Moody Blues and seeing VanGogh thru out as I moved from room to room. While You may listen to The Beatles Or Frank Sinatra and see works by Michealangelo, And Murphydawg may listen to Nirvana and view Peter Max .

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While I like the Moody Blues, The Beatles, and Sinatra, the reference to Nirvana was quite a timely one, as I finally got their 1993 modern-classic "In Utero" on CD today. I listened to it tonight while sipping my first-ever Manhattan (made with Knob Creek). Maybe the drink is better suited to "Old Blue Eyes", but the duo fit well to me http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif !



Tom (I'll get back on topic now, I promise!!) C

bobbyc
11-21-2002, 04:13
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the reference to Nirvana was quite a timely one, as I finally got their 1993 modern-classic "In Utero" on CD today

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I can't be psychic, or can I? In all seriousness a good tune is a good tune , and the same can be said about Bourbon. Sorry Jeff, didn't mean to run it in the ground. Dave, here looked like he went pretty far out on the limb and I didn't want him to feel lonely out there. The next time it may be you , Tom( How does he do that?) C or Linn. Or hell it may be Bobby( Nothing up my sleeve)C http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

jeff
11-21-2002, 05:19
No apology needed, as I think the fault is mine. After re-reading my original post and the entire thread several times, <font color="red"> I'm </font color> not even sure if I know what I was asking.

cornsqueezins
11-21-2002, 09:44
Jeff, I believe your original question dealt with the metaphysical relationship between one's taste buds and one's pockets. Since we've entered a relativistic realm I believe anything is allowed in this type of discussion! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

Reminds me of a thread entitled "Unique Taste Profiles" that some poor soul initiated several months ago in a parallel universe. A question was asked in naive innocence, but somehow the end result was a debate on semantics. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif

You said: "what bourbon provides the best flavor profile for its price?"

What do you mean by "the"? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

-Troy

P.S. Wild Turkey 101 or Old Forester 100

jeff
11-21-2002, 10:19
It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

jeff
11-21-2002, 10:29
Ok, let me give this one last try. Lets assume that money is no object to anyone, however we are all thrifty and no one wants to get ripped off. What would give you the most pleasure for the cost? Lets compare apples to apples, that is: 1 bottle (750ml) to 1 bottle (not 1 bottle of booker's to 3 bottles of EC12). Do you think that KS is worth every penny of $40 and is a good deal at that? Or do you think that Baker's is good, but not at $34. Stuff like that.

Sorry for kicking a dead horse, but I am really interested in what others think about pricing versus quality.

I know, I know...taste is subjective, but I am asking YOU , so please give YOUR opinion http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

MurphyDawg
11-21-2002, 11:25
I havent found ANY bourbon at $40+ a good deal yet. That doesnt mean it isnt worth buying at that price, I just think that the higher $$$ raises the expectations. If anything I am more apt to feel cheated if something isnt great if its that expensive. To be a value to me it would have to be something that exceds the expectations set for by price, and there are several bourbons that do just that:

On the bottom shelf (or nearby): AAA 10 &amp; OF 86
On the middle Shelf: EC 12 &amp; Eagle Rare 10/101 &amp; Geroge Dickel 12

On the top shelf (or nearby): EWSB, Russell's Reserve, ORVW 10/107, Wathens, Elmer T. Lee.

All these could easily go for well more than I paid in my mind, the one that reached farthest over my expectations is still AAA 10!


Is that the kinda answer you wanted?



Tom ( http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif I hope to help http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif ) C

tdelling
11-21-2002, 11:44
&gt;Sorry for kicking a dead horse, but I am really interested in what others think
&gt;about pricing versus quality.

&gt;I know, I know...taste is subjective, but I am asking YOU , so please give
&gt;YOUR opinion

A few observations, and then my answer to "what is the best for the money":

1. I think that the higher end Wild Turkey bottlings (e.g. RB, KS) are priced right.

2. I've never in my life tasted a bourbon that's worth more than $50/bottle...
Pappy is great, but it's not worth the extra money to me.

3. I wouldn't drink Ten High even if it were $3 a bottle.


And now, my Official Best Bourbon For The Money:

...is not a true bourbon, but rather is.... Old Rip 13YO Rye.

It's great stuff, and absurdly underpriced.
It's my all-time favorite American distilled beverage.

Tim

bluesbassdad
11-21-2002, 14:46
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And now, my Official Best Bourbon For The Money:

...is not a true bourbon, but rather is.... Old Rip 13YO Rye.

It's great stuff, and absurdly underpriced.
It's my all-time favorite American distilled beverage.


[/QUOTE] Amen, Brother!

I suppose it's more accurate to say that it is not a bourbon at all, but for all we know it may be only a few percentage points (re: corn content in the mashbill) away from making the cut.

I was sitting here wondering what I was going to drink this afternoon. You have inspired me to rip open the carton I received from Sam's a couple of months back. (Gee, I hope there really are four bottles of OR 13YO Rye inside.)

To relate all of this adulation back to Jeff's question, if something is best (as at least you and I agree), and yet sells far below the highest price for a similar product, then that's a very strong contender for "best buy" status (even if I don't think it's quite 1.5 times as enjoyable as WT101 -- that's $24/$16, based on Sam's prices).

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bobbyc
11-21-2002, 20:33
Jeff, This thread is a Success! It has brought out some thought provoking , as well as inane ramblings ( I'll take that one) Sometimes you get a winner and sometimes you realize the only thing keeping it alive is that you keep posting yourself and you just have to let them go and die in ......well just let it die. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

submarine
11-21-2002, 21:00
I'd like to try AAA 10 year but I have doubts I'm looking at the right bourbon. The bottle I see does not say ten years nor does it have a red 10 star on it. It simply says Ancient Age. You can click on the picture from this link

http://web.specsonline.com/cgi-bin/prodlist?index=Liquors|120|BOURBON#1

This isn't the right stuff is it?

John F

bobbyc
11-21-2002, 21:13
Nope John , None of these are what you are looking for. AAA is Ancient Ancient Age , it wieghs in at 10 Years old. The label is Gold . They also put out a 10 star . That's not it either. I think it's something like Beam's 8 star . Only 10, Probably better too.

MurphyDawg
11-22-2002, 09:52
Sorry, Submarine, but that is not the ten year but the standard Ancient Age Bottling. While it is far from bad, it is also no nearly as good. I posted a picture of the bottle at the bottom of the Ancient Ancient Age 10 Year Tasting (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=Tasting&amp;Number=7019&amp;pa ge=4&amp;view=collapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1) I did a couple of months back, maybe that can helpyou on your search! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif !



Tom (helper Man) C

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2002, 12:57
John the AAA 10 yo is mostly available only in the South, but since you're in Texas you should have no problem getting a bottle. Find out who is the distributor for Buffalo Trace Distillery or The Sazerac Company in Texas and give them a call they can tell you what you want to know. At the very least you should be able to special order it. If not then make your reservations now to attend next years Bourbon Festival. Be sure to pack extra pants! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

Bob
11-22-2002, 15:30
Tim, and Jeff,

I agree that ORVW 13 YO Rye is super, and the price is super too! My bet on the best bourbon however is Wild Turkey, Kentucky Spirit. It may cost a few more bucks than others, but in my book, it's worth it.

Bob

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2002, 15:40
May GOD Bless you Bob! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif Kentucky Spirit is the hands down winner in any contest. Very hard to beat, and no ones done it yet. George T. Stagg perhaps??? We must wait and taste, Will we be seeing you next year at the Bourbon Festival???

Bob
11-22-2002, 17:28
Linn,
Having a chance to check out the Bourbon Festival, and meeting folks from StraightBourbon, would be great! I hope that the wife and I can make it, but time will tell. I tried the George Stagg at WhiskyFest, and I can't wait to get a bottle of it to try, and enjoy, without the influence of so many other goodies. I see that Jeff mentioned that it's available in KY, so hopefully, I'll see it in NY soon, or available thru Sam's. Regardless, as you say, it'll still be hard to beat KS!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Bob

Bob
11-22-2002, 17:47
I had to go back and look at what I'd read before, and sorry for my state of confusion, but what I'd hoped was a Stagg sighting from Jeff, was an OF Birthday Bourbon sighting. I've since read that Stagg won't be available til mid-December! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif Does anyone know why the release date keeps getting pushed back? Initially, I believe it was supposed to have been available in mid-October. Anyway, Jeff's reference to the OF Birthday Bourbon elicited a response of envy, since I haven't had the pleasure of trying it, as well as continued anticipation for the eventual Stagg release. Sorry for my mix-up.

Bob

Paradox
11-22-2002, 18:11
Don't worry Bob, the excitement is getting the best of us when it comes to the Stagg! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif I was also wondering why they keep pushing the date back after an initial release date of mid-October. I've heard somewhere that it had been bottled already... If so anyone have info on why the repeating wait?

bobbyc
11-22-2002, 18:17
Mark, remember when we were drinking this stuff in September?They didn't have BATF approval of the packaging at that time. Actually December 15 is better for me ( sorry Guys) It gives me a little more time to rake in the coins. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

submarine
11-22-2002, 21:38
I tried finding the right stuff today but had no luck. I also shot an email over to BT asking who the distributor for this area is.

I'll find it even it does take packing a suitcase full of pants and heading for Kentucky. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

John F

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2002, 23:35
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I'll find it even it does take packing a suitcase full of pants and heading for Kentucky.


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John it's the thing to do! BLeeE! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

hollywood
11-23-2002, 13:43
Here, here! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif The Turkey Rules!....or should I say Gobbles!...... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif How appropriate at this time of year....at any time of year! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

ph0rk
12-12-2002, 09:41
EWSB is still $17 in NC.

brendaj
12-12-2002, 11:53
Hi Micah,
Nice to have you here. Which year on the EWSB?
Beej

ph0rk
12-12-2002, 15:25
Crikes, I should have known someone would ask. The last bottle i had is gone (paid $19) but I do believe the ABC stores had the 1992 for $17.

I'd pick up a bottle, but its hard to justify with an unopened bottle of EC12 ($11!) and my still mostly-full bottle of EC18.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-12-2002, 16:40
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brendaj
12-12-2002, 18:37
That's really reasonable! Personally, I would grab a bottle. Later you can open that 12 year old. My 18 yr. old has been sitting around fer awhile.
Bj

CL
12-12-2002, 23:47
Time for me to go shopping! I've been spending so much time chasing the stuff out of state. It's time I settled back home and had some good old EWSB and some Knob Creek.

MurphyDawg
12-13-2002, 00:15
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Spork! You freakin' Yankee!

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There isnt anything wrong with being a Yankee. . . . . .(its Yankee Fans that have the issues. . . .)

Tom (Massachusetts native living in OH) C

**DONOTDELETE**
12-13-2002, 06:09
I can't help myself Tom. It's just devilish good fun to rag on Yanks/Northerners. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

ph0rk
12-13-2002, 11:29
I stand by my dogged hatred of grits.

Corn was meant for tortillas and whisky.

Paradox
12-13-2002, 14:15
Yankee fans have issues?

1918 I need not say more... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

MurphyDawg
12-14-2002, 00:55
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1918 I need not say more...

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And that is EXACTLY the issues that Yankee fans have. . .lol thanks man. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif .


Yankees fans believe in curses, Red Sox fans just know and relish in the fact that they will (not might, will) choke. I have not me a Yankee fan that, when I told them I liked the Red Sox fan, did not bring up 1918 and "the curse", I just find it amusing, thats all that Yankee fans have this Deathwish for us all. The Red Sox have a reason, we a re perennial runnerups we need to bitch to get therough the cold winter. the Yanks have their champagne and championships. . .

LOL Its all good there has been anough hating. . . .All I can say is "Maybe next year. . ." http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

BLEEEEEEEEE!


TomC

**DONOTDELETE**
12-14-2002, 03:12
I LUV grits. Hell I AM grits. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

jbutler
12-14-2002, 09:47
Having finally gotten my hands on some Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel, and since it (unbelievably) only cost $18.49 per bottle, I think I have to cast my vote in it's favor. If I could choose more than one, the runner-up would be EC 12YO at about $13.69.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-14-2002, 09:54
$18.49??? For Elmer T. Lee??? That's cheaper than it is in Kentucky!!! Truely Bleeful. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

jbutler
12-14-2002, 14:03
Well it's sort of interesting that the first bottle I picked up was $41.99. Me and Dave sucked down about 3/4 of it while reading some reviews here on the forum. I was a bit upset that I had paid almost double what others on the forum had paid. This was odd, because the liquor store I do most of my shopping at has generally superb prices. The cost of living is very high here in the Bay Area, but we seem to have some of the best bourbon prices in the nation. I'm not worried about that though, the minute the yuppies take an interest in bourbon, the joy ride is over http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

I went back to the store and spoke to the manager about the inordinate markup (there was only one bottle on the shelf). The following week, an entire case was on the shelf at $18.49.

I bought four.

Paradox
12-14-2002, 14:10
Actually I only made the comment because it was you who stated that Yankee fans have issues without justification. I personally dont like baseball but I think that Yankee fans do not have "issues". I do not think that a fan of any team has issues when they hype their team or challenge fans of others... they just have a love for their team and the game. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif

MurphyDawg
12-15-2002, 10:11
I was just being silly. Sorry for offending.



TomC

jeff
12-15-2002, 17:52
I have yet to try old Elmer, but I will agree with EC12. I wish I could get that price. I might add the ETL to my Christmas list.

jeff
12-15-2002, 18:00
Dave,
I have noticed after reading many of your posts that you seem to order lots of boutbon and then never open the packages when they arive. How do you do it? Are they just replacement bottles for bourbons and ryes that you already own? Man when I get a new bourbon, the second I step foot in the house, that bottle is OPEN http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif. Do you just have this massive stockpile in the basement? Are you putting some away in case of war and the Iraqies bomb all the distilleries? Just curious http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

bluesbassdad
12-15-2002, 21:22
Jeff,

I don't have a corner liqour store with a good selection and reasonable prices; most of my purchases involve an interstate order or an inconveniet road trip of a couple of hours or more.

Consequently, I tend to buy anywhere from three to six bottles (not exclusively bourbon) at a time. Until recently, nearly all my purchases were of bottlings I had never tried before. Needless to say, opening all of them the same day I bring them home (or receive them from UPS) would lead to excessive drinking and probably very hazy recollections of what I had drunk. If the first one I open appeals to me very strongly, then I may spend a few days getting to know it, causing me to put off opening the others. Because of my limited amount of convenient storage space, those others may be placed out of sight, sometimes leading to out-of-mind.

As to a "massive stockpile", that's an overstatement. Without counting, I would guess that I have, at most, 20 bourbons, four ryes, four to six s----- blends, a similar number of single malts, a couple of rums, and, oh yeah, five Tennessee whiskies.

IIRC, there are no unopened bourbons, save for replacement bottles, one unopened rye, and three or four unopened s-----es.

You remind me that I have a tendency to enjoy acquiring as much as consuming/using. Before I started seriously drinking bourbon a few months ago, I had been adding to my compact disc collection at an unsustainable rate. I can only estimate how many I have and how many of them I haven't bothered to listen to, even once. (Sometimes my genre of interest suddenly changes, and my backlog of that genre goes into a closet.) I'd guess it's in the vicinity of 3000/500.

The only "putting away" is the four bottles (now three and a fraction bottles) of VWFR 13 year rye that I ordered from Sam's. I may add to that stash over time rather than replace some of my less favored bottles.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ph0rk
12-16-2002, 10:50
When I make it to the ABC store, I'm likely to snag more than one bottle at a time, and (like recently) between OGD BIB, russell's reserve, old forester 100 and EC12, I can only give attention to one bottle at a time, and I prefer to spend a day or two with each. Currently the OGD is on hold (spicier than I prefer) and the Russell's reserve is in testing.

As for regular pours, probably Maker's and Woodford are my two regular pours. (I'm hoping the OF100 will closely approximate Woodford).

There are probably 8 or so bottles of whisky that I either don't care for or haven't found a reason to care for yet, space isn't an issue (They all live in the pantry) so they sit until I feel like trying them again.

Ken Weber
12-16-2002, 11:28
I have been away from the forum for a while and have read this thread during my lunch. I apologize for the confusion of Ancient Age, Ancient Ancient Age, and Ancient Age 10 Star. The Ancient Ancient Age (AAA 10 year) is 10 years old and is only sold in Kentucky and Virginia. The reason it is not sold elsewhere is because we simply do not have enough. The Ancient Ancient Age 10 Star is very confusing. We we decided to pull the 10 year product from the market, several of our distributors were not happy. As a compromise between regular Ancient Age and AAA 10 year, we offered AAA 10 Star. This bourbon is actually 6-7 years old. I think naming it 10 Star was a poor marketing decision and led to the confusion. Just to cloud the issue further, there is also an Ancient Age Preferred (a blended whiskey, not a bourbon at all). This product can be found in several states, however, Texas is perhaps the largest.

Just so you know (watch out, here comes that damned marketing influence!), Jim Murray named AAA 10 year as one of the 5 best whiskies in the world. Of course I haven't seen Jim in a while and he might have changed his mind by now!

bluesbassdad
12-16-2002, 13:12
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The Ancient Ancient Age (AAA 10 year) is 10 years old and is only sold in Kentucky and Virginia.

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Ken, is it a coincidence that BT picked two states that don't allow shipment to private parties out of state, say, to California? (If only you had included Illinois... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif )

All I've seen out here is the top and the bottom of the BT line (Blanton's and Ancient Age), but at least I can get Buffalo Trace and Elmer T. Lee from Sam's.


Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

cornsqueezins
12-16-2002, 13:33
Hey ph0rk, just out of curiosity, what are the "8 or so" bourbons you don't care for?

ph0rk
12-20-2002, 10:00
I said whiskies, but most are bourbon.

A bottle of gentleman jack, gifted to me a year ago, and rekindled my several years dead love of whisky. I've sampled it a few times since the bourbon rush, and it still tastes too much like JD for me.

A bottle of Jacob's Well, my old favourite. Back in '99 and 2000, this could be had for a song at most ABC stores, and I really enjoyed it. I was still scraping through school at the time and bartending nights while working my pre-dot-bomb small local tech job, so money was tight, I never even glanced at anything with a price tag over $18. I liked it then, and it isn't bad now, but not much more than slightly smoother JB black.

Henry McKenna single barrel, 10 years old. My first bottle of Heaven Hill bourbon. Not bad, but the most recent time i tried it it tasted very menthol-like, and couldn't hold a candle to Woodford's.

EC18. I wish i knew why my father's bottle tastes so good, and mine so smoky and sharp.

Old Grand Dad BIB - too spicy for me, will require more getting used to.

Eagle Rare, 10 year. - see OGD BIB http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

Russels Reserve - it tastes like.... WT101? More refined yes, but I never really cared for WT101. I'd take it over JB white and any scotch in the world, but if the bar has Dickel....

Knob Creek - funny. I enjoy it when i go out, but sometimes it can taste very menthol-like, especially after woodford reserve.

Booker's - Not exactly on the don't care for list, but on the not-gonna-drink-on-a-weekday list, for sure. Mine is still unopen.



My favourites at the moment are Makers (Which i found way too harsh back in 99, now it tastes sweetish to me, go figure), Georgre Dickel no 12, and Woodford reserve. I also like EWSB, but i bought it for a friend who quickly finished it, and I have no bottle at the moment.

Unopened are OF100, EC12, and a bottle of blanton's which i've enjoyed at friend's houses, but haven't opened it yet. I have a bottle of JB rye which i really liked back in 99, I've cracked the seal to get a whiff, but haven't had any yet. (i sure wish there were more than 2 ryes in NC, JB and WT)


I'm looking forwards to the OF100 and EC12 (especially since the EC12 was $11 here). I've been meaning to track down some Ezra Brooks too.


On another note, does anyone know of a piece of furniture that closely approximates a liquor cabinet, that won't cost me $500? I've been looking for a way to move the whisky to the living room and out of the pantry...

MurphyDawg
12-20-2002, 10:39
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Old Grand Dad BIB - too spicy for me, will require more getting used to.

Eagle Rare, 10 year. - see OGD BIB


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Funny, while I agree somewhat regarding the OGD BIB, I dont find Eagle Rare to be particularly spicy at all. I suppose that shows you that sometimes tasting notes can be just as much about the person tasting. . .

Tom http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif C

cornsqueezins
12-20-2002, 10:50
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but I never really cared for WT101

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http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif Wow, so there really are people who don't care for the bird. Interesting....goes to show the varied tastes on this forum.

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Old Grand Dad BIB - too spicy for me, will require more getting used to.

[/QUOTE]

I've had several other people tell me that OGD BIB was ultra spicy, and it would make sense considering the high percentage of rye in the mashbill. But I have not been able to detect it as much as I thought. I may have mistakenly been looking for a rye sting, but the OGD BIB that I recently finished was fairly smooth, with a nice honey flavor that almost offset the disappointing lack of complexity.

Anyway, each to his own in bourbonia.....

-Troy

jeff
12-20-2002, 10:56
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Wow, so there really are people who don't care for the bird. Interesting....

[/QUOTE]

It looks like we've got a project! Make Phork love WT http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

ph0rk
12-20-2002, 11:14
Heh, if it makes you feel better, WT is ahead of JB black in my (oh crap, they are out of x_bourbon) list, but probably after KC.

WT is, well, interesting, and to be honest i've not spent enough time with the RR yet to make a judgement (only had 3 pours). It is a bit (well a good bit) spicer in finish to me than Woodford. A sip of WT is still more work to get through, less savory. I think one of my current favourite flavors in bourbon is a honey-like vanilla flavor, and I haven't found than in WT101 or RR as of yet.

I have however had a hankering to try the WT rye, as here in NC it's the -other- rye.

ph0rk
12-20-2002, 11:17
oh, and before the confusion develops into a full-fledged flame, note that these are whiskies I either don't care for, or haven't sampled enough to care for yet http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

hollywood
12-20-2002, 13:14
P, Try an unfinished furniture store. You can find oak cabinets, etc... for a fraction of the cost sometimes...just finish it yourself. See ya, H'wood

hollywood
12-20-2002, 13:33
Hey, this is a joke right?! Wait........April Fool's Day was months ago! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Everybody likes/loves WT, TRUE!? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif I might have to call my boys out! Yo Jimmmay! See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

Blackkeno
12-21-2002, 02:36
I have a bottle of Ancient Age Preferred. I think it is the only American blend I have (other than a mixer). I'm pretty sure it is the only American blend recommended by the Spirit Journal.

Creggor
01-10-2003, 21:10
Heck of a hard choice to make.. I like Julain Vanwinkles 15yr 107 Proof as mcuh or mare than any bourbon Ive had for the price.. It would probably be the last whiskey I would ask for if tonight was my last night on earth. Of course I would wash it down with some 1990 Evan Williams Single Barrel. Then Ive been told. Once I get into heaven I can get 16 &amp; 20 Hirsch, Stagg, 18yr sazerac Rye, Kentucky Spirit, 13yr Vanwinkle Rye, The rest of Buffalo Traces Antique collection, 12yr Wild Turkey, Rare Breed, Pure Kentucky XO 20 &amp; 23 Yr Pappy Family Reserve, Man it's not fair there is no one just best for the price at least not for me. I like them all. Yes, how much money I have in my pocket at times does influence my purchasing decissions. Spent $200 yesterday. Bought 2 bottles of Stagg and 2 bottles of 16yr Hirsch. Will get them on my way thru KY this summer on vacation.. Saving these for something special. Creggor.

CL
01-11-2003, 01:33
I believe I have changed my mind. A couple months ago, I said EWSB.

But, a couple weeks ago, I was hitting too much of my stock that was not available in NC. I decided to get some bottles I could buy locally. I settled on Old Forester 100, EWSB 1992, and WT RB.

It has been a while since I have had EWSB. But, I have to admit, for an everyday pour that I can buy locally, I have to put OF 100 on top. The EWSB is good, but I really have gained a liking for the OF, particularly at $16.

Now, if I lived in KY or IN, I think BT would be in the running. I am out of it right now, so I can't put it side by side with the OF. My initial thoughts is that the BT would win. I remember it being, what, $19?

bluesbassdad
01-11-2003, 12:55
Does the great state of NC allow you to receive shipments from out of state?

If so, you can get Buffalo Trace ($19.99/ bottle, $227.49/case) from Sam's Wine &amp; Spirits (http://www.samswine.com/searches/SpiritSearchResults.asp?USearch=buffalo) in Chicago.

I'm sure there's a marketing plan at work here, but I find it remarkable that here in SoCal we can buy Blanton's and Ancient Age, but I can't find Buffalo Trace.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
01-11-2003, 14:16
I don't know if I would pay the higher prices and S/H for an everyday pour like BT. Plus, I have a 1.75L waiting at my sister's. (She forgot to bring it at Xmas.)

But, apparently, NC does allow shipments into the state. I ordered three bottles of Stagg last night from Internetwines. NC wasn't on their list of no-ship states. And, they took my order online, so I assume they have it in stock.

The bad thing is that I am at my parents' house in WV this weekend. I have access to the Internet, but not to my email! Their cable Internet provider won't let my VPN connection to work go through. So, I can't see if my order has been confirmed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif

Sam's did not have Stagg in stock. Internetwines wanted $50/bottle plus $15 S/H for all three bottles combined. That was less than I expected.

jeff
01-11-2003, 14:32
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for an everyday pour that I can buy locally, I have to put OF 100 on top

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I'll second that. OF100 is the bourbon lover's best kept secret. Here in Lexington it is only $13.99 for a 750ml bottle. This one is my favorite of the regular OF line (Woodford Reserve included). And it is a photo-finish behind this years Birthday Bourbon. Good Stuff http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

bluesbassdad
01-11-2003, 16:41
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plus $15 S/H for all three bottles combined. That was less than I expected.

[/QUOTE] IIRC, it cost me $16 to have four bottles shipped from Sam's to SoCal. Their prices are usually lower than I find locally, and I save the sales tax (how much longer can that last?); so for me the shipping is almost free when I buy top-shelf bourbon.

You are right about the everyday pours, though. Even if I could get Very Old Barton and AAA 10 y/o from Sam's, they wouldn't be much of a bargain by the time I paid to have them shipped.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
01-11-2003, 20:15
When I was in Louisville this past summer, I thought I heard that BT is only available in KY. It may be in available in IN as well. Maybe I heard this on my BT distillery tour. That may be why you don't see it in CA.

MurphyDawg
01-11-2003, 22:19
Dave I'd probably still buy AAA 10 for $12-22. It is just that good. The good folks in KY &amp; VA that get it for like $11 are getting a STEAL!!!!

TomC

jeff
01-20-2003, 17:55
My new best value/"worth every penny" bourbon is Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 107 proof. Taken neat, this just tastes like a true bourbon should. And it is a steal at $21. I have tasted the 20yo pappy, which is one of my favorite bourbons. While the 20yo is a better, more complex bourbon IMHO, I haven't made up my mind if it is worth almost 4 times the cost of this beauty. Time will tell I suppose. Here's to US and the good life http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

MurphyDawg
01-20-2003, 23:39
Couldnt Agree with you more! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif ORVW 10 year is as good a value as there is out there.


MMMmmmMMMmmm Good!
TomC

CL
01-21-2003, 20:18
You make a good case. I used to drink the 15 yo exclusively based on the reviews it has received. But, after I tried the 10 yo this past summer (based on feedback from this group), I believe the 10 yo is the much better value compared to both the 15 yo and the 20 yo.

I love it when you save some money in the process and have absolutely no regrets with regards to the taste. Damn, life is good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Paradox
01-21-2003, 20:21
Well Chuck, I love the 15 year and I love saving money so i guess you settled it for me... I'll have to run out and get a 10 year as soon as possible! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

Creggor
01-21-2003, 21:06
Heres A suggestion. Take some of the 10yr 12yr 15 yr and 20yr Van Winkles and just mix them all together. It's kinda like having group sex and still being fathfull to the one you love. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif Heck I might just have to try this combo myself. I actually had a little taste of this earlier this year.. I had some 14yr Black Maple Hills (Julians Whiskey) and mixed it with the little the Van Winkle 20yr I had left in my opened bottle. The mix was quite good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Creggor.

Marvin
01-23-2003, 11:05
I agree with all the answers I have read on this post, but for the money Heaven Hill bb 10 yo is for me, if money was a factor. But here is how I decided I bought 8-10 bottles of everything that was out there, as long as it was at least 6 yo, which I did 3 or 4 years ago and just kept right on drinking them.
Saved all the empties and when I ran out of two or three bottles I checked to see what they were and kept right on drinking! When they were all gone, I got out all the empties then went into shock. Couldn't remember which one I liked best! Started all over - I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,
Marvin

ratcheer
01-23-2003, 19:18
LOL

Tim

MurphyDawg
01-24-2003, 00:37
VERY scientific, I like that method! In fact, I think I will try it. . .


BLEEEEEEEE!
TomC

ph0rk
01-28-2003, 15:33
One i've re-discovered while offered it at a friend's home is beam's choice, 7 year old

I think this used to run 5 years, but now runs 7, is 80 proof, and deceptively in a similar white label as the regular beam 4 year. it runs for $12-13 in NC, and tastes damn good.

It goes a bit quick, especially if you are used to 100+ proof bourbon, but then, thats why they sell it in a 1.75l



In other news, I found one of Wake co's last caches of EWSB '92. I bought four http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

Veevee
01-29-2003, 04:56
Hello. I can find the Centennial around here at a few places, and wanted to try it because of support here on the board. When did you buy it when you liked it?
When was the batch that's maybe not as good available?
Approximations would be OK.
Thanks
Christopher

jeff
03-02-2003, 11:10
I must throw a couple of new contenders into the mix for best value:price ratio. Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve at $22/750ml (Lexington) and Old Weller 12yo at $14.99 (Lexington). Both of these beauties posses qualities prominent in very expensive bottlings, but at budget minded prices. OCPR is just one damn fine all around bourbon, and Weller 12yo has rekindled my dying flame for wheaters. A well made wheater can easily stand up to any of its rye competition IMHO.