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Phantos
07-08-2009, 22:55
Do you think a bit, say 1 part Old Overholt to 2 parts Evan Williams Black might fix "the young and restless" corn of plain old (but does the trick) EVBL?

*I did do a search, but the results were a bit huge and general...

Phantos
07-08-2009, 23:56
can two cheap drinks turn into a good drink? heh, asks, me, the bartender?

I will try it this week probably anyway, but I figured you fellas might have already spawned this obvious experiment already several times.

independant
07-09-2009, 01:33
I think both of these are good pours that stand up well on their own. I would concider both of these cheap in price only not in quality. As far as vatting them together there is only one way to find out the outcome. Give it a go. Tell us how it turns out.

ILLfarmboy
07-12-2009, 21:30
I once blended Wild turkey Rye and Knob Creek. It didn't work. Later when I posted the results, if I remember right, Gary Gillman, a master at creating blends suggested that when blending two distinctly different whiskeys sometimes other constituent whiskeys have to be added to smooth things into a well blended amalgam.

To date my only success at blending has been to add a bit of WTRR 101 to FRSB.

Phantos
07-14-2009, 19:40
just did it.
2 parts EWBL to 1 part OO.
pretty damn good.
has a little yeasty bread mid/late taste.

it reminds me of what the old EW tasted like.

TNbourbon
07-14-2009, 20:04
Gary G., of 'Gillmanization' fame, visited here less than 10 days ago, and left the following:

"Garry's (I assume somebody else spelled that) 30-40 rums blended"'
"Gary's vatted malt (Scotch) whiskies"

Both are, not surprisingly, excellent.
As a long-time acolyte -- and, as best I understand Gary's mindset -- you wish to supply whatever is missing via blending.
Thus, if you think Old Overholt rye or Evan Williams Black is lacking something, you're looking for 1) age, and/or 2) wheat, as both are rye-centric.
If you think that age is the missing factor, try adding some Saz Jr., or even standard Wild Turkey Rye. Something like Wild Turkey Rare Breed would be an out-lyer.
If you think the rye is overblown, inject some (wheat being milder than rye, generally) Weller Antique 107-proof, or even Maker's Mark (at slightly higher percentages).
In general, you're looking to balance, both for age and mashbill.

shoshani
07-16-2009, 09:26
I once blended Wild turkey Rye and Knob Creek. It didn't work.

I once did a blending of wheated bourbons that worked UNTIL a certain point. I forget the proportions, but it was mostly Maker's with about half its volume of Weller Antique (which is actually cheaper!), and a small amount of ORVW 10YO. And it was very good.

Then I added some Old Fitz BIB, and the whole thing went to hell. Inexplicably. I figured that all the wheaters would complement each other, but this was not the case.

I was able to rescue this vatting by adding more Maker's and a shot of BTAC WLW, but I was still extremely surprised at how badly Fitz played with Maker's and the BT wheaters.

smokinjoe
07-16-2009, 10:19
I once did a blending of wheated bourbons that worked UNTIL a certain point. I forget the proportions, but it was mostly Maker's with about half its volume of Weller Antique (which is actually cheaper!), and a small amount of ORVW 10YO. And it was very good.

Then I added some Old Fitz BIB, and the whole thing went to hell. Inexplicably. I figured that all the wheaters would complement each other, but this was not the case.

I was able to rescue this vatting by adding more Maker's and a shot of BTAC WLW, but I was still extremely surprised at how badly Fitz played with Maker's and the BT wheaters.

I've vatted the Maker's and Weller Antique, and really enjoyed it, too. Come to think of it, I'll take that to poker tonight. :thankyousign:

I laugh when I read how you keep adding, to try and salvage a poor vatting. I've done the same. Problem is, you end up getting a pour that's about 10 oz.!! :drinking:

shoshani
07-16-2009, 12:39
I laugh when I read how you keep adding, to try and salvage a poor vatting. I've done the same. Problem is, you end up getting a pour that's about 10 oz.!! :drinking:

That's a bad thing? :D