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thunderhead
10-12-2009, 07:25
Ok im getting back into drinking whiskey and i bought a few bottles the other day some were cheap and some were better, i do like my drinks mixed and im trying to get more into drinking straight so i bought a few of these bottles in mind for mixing and others i hope i like them straight anyways just wondering out of what i bought is a drink you would drink straight.

also i know all of these aren't scotch so i hope i didn't put this post in the wrong place

thanks

jim beam white lable - bought this for mixing

red stag- also bought for mixing

wild turkey 80proof - i use to drink 101 a lot and i though 80 would be smother to get back into it and i was wrong lol from now on its always 101.

wild turkey american honey - i don't know anything about this

knobb creek - i hear good thing but ive never tried it

Chivas Regal 12 year - heard good things but never tried

johnny walker red lable- heard its a good mixing drink

makers mark - ive hand it mixed and remembered i really enjoyed it

jameson- popual irish whiskey ive never had

thanks

smokinjoe
10-12-2009, 07:43
I would have no problem drinking any of those straight, except for the Red Stag. I really didn't like that one at all, so to me it's only value would be if mixed. Or, thrown out. :puke: I'll have to admit, I'm not the best source for Scotch info. I just don't drink much of it, but I've had the two blends you list, and they are servicable straight. I'll drink the Maker's straight all day long.

Avi
10-12-2009, 07:57
I have to agree that you might like any...or all of them straight. It's a matter of individual taste and while recommendations are useful I guess they aren't foolproof because it's so much a matter of taste. Looking at your list, thunder, I can say that there isn't one that I would hesitate to try straight. There are some that may be fine for mixing, but I don't care too much for mixed drinks. I'd add that just last week I finished a bottle of Jameson's 6-year old and replaced it with a new bottle of Jameson's SR 12-year old. I think they're both really delicious straight up.

ILLfarmboy
10-12-2009, 08:34
WT 80
Chivas Regal
Knob Creek
Maker's Mark and
Jamison

Red Stag is gross
I don't care for wild turkey American Honey
Johny Walker Red is spirity and young. With water and ice it is OK
I like the standard Jamison on the rocks, usualy as a pre-diner drink.
Beam White is blaaaaannnnnnddd.

p_elliott
10-12-2009, 09:15
Out of everything you listed the only two things I would drink would be KC and MM.

thunderhead
10-12-2009, 09:48
Out of everything you listed the only two things I would drink would be KC and MM.

you've got a wild turkey icon lol you wouldn't drink that?

callmeox
10-12-2009, 10:22
Wild Turkey 80 proof and 101 proof are different whiskeys, not just different proofs. Paul is a big WT101 fan for sure.

If I recall correctly from my tour, the 80 proof is a blend of 4, 6 and 8 year old whiskey and the 101 is 6, 8 and 10 year old whiskey. The 80 proof is and tastes much younger.

ggilbertva
10-12-2009, 10:53
Don't do the Red Stag. Other than that, most anything I'll drink straight except for the uber barrel strength stuff like Stagg/WLW/Handy. I prefer my stuff about 110 pf.

Gillman
10-12-2009, 16:35
I agree with Smokin Joe and Greg.

Regarding Red Stag, my suggestion would be to drink it on the rocks with a splash of soda. That or mix it 50/50 with any of the other bourbons you mentioned.

Gary

jburlowski
10-12-2009, 16:52
The best thing you can do with Red Stag is put it on pancakes.

Josh
10-12-2009, 17:11
The best thing you can do with Red Stag is put it on pancakes.

I dunno, giving it to the wife seems to get results.

BBQ+Bourbon
10-12-2009, 19:35
Ok im getting back into drinking whiskey and i bought a few bottles the other day some were cheap and some were better, i do like my drinks mixed and im trying to get more into drinking straight so i bought a few of these bottles in mind for mixing and others i hope i like them straight anyways just wondering out of what i bought is a drink you would drink straight.

also i know all of these aren't scotch so i hope i didn't put this post in the wrong place

thanks

jim beam white lable - bought this for mixing

red stag- also bought for mixing

wild turkey 80proof - i use to drink 101 a lot and i though 80 would be smother to get back into it and i was wrong lol from now on its always 101.

wild turkey american honey - i don't know anything about this

knobb creek - i hear good thing but ive never tried it

Chivas Regal 12 year - heard good things but never tried

johnny walker red lable- heard its a good mixing drink

makers mark - ive hand it mixed and remembered i really enjoyed it

jameson- popual irish whiskey ive never had

thanks
I would pass on all of those except three:

KC, Makers, WT 80. Actually I would pass on the WT 80 unless 101 was unavailable. Of those three, I'd drink all neat, particularly WT101. I find that at 101pf the WT is very pleasant. Others at much lower proof are not nearly as tasty.

Of those, the WT101 would be my favorite, Makers second, and KC third. Something about KC bothers me but I like it overall.

Edit: I wouldn't water my plants with scotch and don't care for mixed liqeurs (liquors).

BBQ+Bourbon
10-12-2009, 19:40
The best thing you can do with Red Stag is put it on pancakes.
Good call. To which in-law do you give the pancakes?

ErichPryde
10-12-2009, 22:43
Good call. To which in-law do you give the pancakes?


golden! :grin: my wife wouldn't even drink the red stag I purchased to try.

independant
10-13-2009, 03:52
red stag- A disappointment, not enough Bourbon to be good and not enough cherry to be enjoyable

wild turkey 80proof - Can honestly say I have never had WT80 whats the point when you can get 101, but given the choice neat

wild turkey american honey -20 bucks I well never get back. hopefully someone will visit one day that wants to drink this

knob creek -As with all bourbon I would drink this neat.

Chivas Regal 12 year - I don't really drink scotch

johnny walker red lable- Same not a scotch fan

makers mark - As it is a bourbon if offered it I would drink it neat. But hell if you add a drop of water you will lose what little flavor is there to begin with.
jameson- A good whiskey that would be great with just a little more proof. This is one that I really enjoy straight from the flask.

jim beam white label - Check avatar

Gillman
10-13-2009, 04:37
It would be interesting to read a history of, not so much, or not only, distilled spirits, but how these drinks were consumed from inception.

In former centuries it was difficult to produce a clean spirit, one that is like vodka today or our whiskeys which have no off-tastes (from compounds that boil off before or in some cases after the alcohol does in the still).

It is probable that to cover these off-tastes, people mixed liquors together or more commonly with fruits, spices and other flavorings. What resulted were punches, toddies, juleps and other compounds. Some liquors were compounds themselves in a way, e.g., gin is neutral spirit mixed with juniper and other flavours. Mixed drinks today come from that background. Another reason is to lengthen the drink, so it will take time to drink it and therefore less is needed, and also, some people thought at one time a long drink was less dangerous (to health) than a short one.

Today, distilled liquors are made to a high standard. All the drinks mentioned in the original post are well-made potable drinks and can be tasted neat or of course mixed. Whether to drink them neat depends on one's taste, which is always subjective.

Gary

Stu
10-13-2009, 17:38
I gotta agree with the Gillman. Even JB white is drinkable straight, although not my first choice by a long site. I've never had Red Stagg and probably never will, and my opinion of American Honey is that it also might be useful on pancakes for an in law you didn't care for. Many of those I wouldn't buy to drink straight, but if I were visiting someone and that was what was offered, I'd say thank you.

BourbonCzar
10-13-2009, 18:45
Actually Red Stag is a great chaser for Robitussin. I might suggest some different selections for you to go with. Some good "starter" options in my opinion are Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 YO or Elmer T. Lee. Both are nice Buffalo Trace products. Try them on the rocks with a splash of water. Before long you will be drinking George T. Stagg 141 proof neat.

Cheers!

headc
10-13-2009, 20:56
I am just starting to drink bourbon on a regular basis, but I really enjoyed the taste of Red Stag. At first, I did not care for it because I was expecting it to taste like a normal bourbon would; however, once I realized it was suppose to have a black-cherry flavor, I appreciated the taste. I thought it tasted fine straight, or with a splash of sprite.

Joshua
10-14-2009, 12:44
When I drink bourbon, I drink it to have BOURBON. If I don't want something rough, I'll go with wine or a good beer. So keep that in mind because I'm pretty biased. I don't really ever drink mixed drinks, and RARELY throw a cube of ice in it on a hot day.


jim beam white lable - Tastes young and rough without flavor to me. Have drank it neat, can do it, just really don't care to. For that price, there's a few things I would rather get.

red stag- Havn't tried, wouldn't be opposed to trying it neat, but don't have much of a desire to grab a bottle. I'm not a fan of mixed, and not a fan of Beam in general.

wild turkey 80proof - I'm next to Paul and Dan (I believe it was further up) on WT101 being a great pour, why go to 80? Neat- yes, I really enjoy WT101 neat.

wild turkey american honey - Haven't had it, I do have a dusty ol' bottle of it's predecessor though. Really think, tastes like thick mead with bourbon on the back end to me. I put it in tea when I have a sore throat or whatever. Maybe the american honey would fit that as well?

knobb creek - Beam politics turned me off to KC with the "drought" business. It's ok, but I think overpriced at $30+ a bottle here. If I had it, it would be neat. I understand why people like it, but personally it's not my cup of tea for the price tag.

makers mark - I drink it neat when I have it. Don't care enough to pick up a bottle, but maybe once a month I'm at a bar and grab a pour. It's a decent wheater, not offensive at all. Enjoyable, just a tad expensive for the amount of flavor it carries with. For sure drinking it neat, but it's just a *tad* on the bland side.