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independant
11-21-2009, 14:01
I think we all may do this. You have a special bottle and you have that last few pours and you just can bring yourself to finish it off. What are some bottle that you have held back and how long have you set on them?

spun_cookie
11-21-2009, 14:10
VVOF 12 yr... I sip that puppy at a snails pace. THe next would be my 02 and 03 Staggs... the 02 is down to the very end too... I know the Willett 27 yr unfilteredbarrel proof I have (#16 of 24 bottles) will be on my shelf for years...

There are a few a slow pour so folks have a chance to taste them.

MarkEdwards
11-21-2009, 16:29
I think we all may do this. You have a special bottle and you have that last few pours and you just can bring yourself to finish it off. What are some bottle that you have held back and how long have you set on them?

Not quite what you are asking, but I have yet to open the '08 GTS because it didn't have a buddy as backup. Today I found a source of GTS, so I have a spare. I will be trying one this week...

MarkEdwards
11-21-2009, 16:30
I think we all may do this. You have a special bottle and you have that last few pours and you just can bring yourself to finish it off. What are some bottle that you have held back and how long have you set on them?

Now, more along the lines of what you are asking, I have a bottle of Lot B that I am taking my time on. Three months so far, and counting.

BBQ+Bourbon
11-21-2009, 17:12
I have a very good lot B that's down to 1/2 full, and I've stopped drinking it. After they get to the halfway point, I have trouble drinking any further.

loose proton
11-21-2009, 17:46
...After they get to the halfway point, I have trouble drinking any further.
That's when you get a second bottle, and can then enjoy quaffing the last treasured drop of the open bottle.

silverfish
11-21-2009, 18:34
Heh, I've used the "halfway rule" myself. After a
while you (or at least I) say "Y'know, half a bottle
is still quite a bit. Maybe I'll go down to a third."
Of course, after that, a quarter bottle seems like
a good stopping point. That's when I usually draw
the line (for real!)

TNbourbon
11-21-2009, 18:43
For the record, I've certainly taken my time -- sometimes 2-3 years!:bigeyes:-- finishing some bottles, but generally either because: 1) I had 40-50 bottles open at the time (:lol: I don't even HAVE 40-50 bottles today), and drank something different every night; or 2) I just didn't care for it, and needed to find a vatting, mixer, or other in order to get it gone.
I've also opened some very fine (and valuable) bottles -- e.g., VOF BIBs from the '40s-'60, Wellers from the same era, '50-'60s OGD BIB, et al -- that were essentially irreplaceable. Counter-intuitively, I never husbanded those bottles in order to 'make them last' because, to me, part of their appeal was as time machines, and pouring some VOF every night for a week or two, and into some Coke(http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=123328&postcount=489), etc., could carry me vicariously back in time to my father's and grandfathers' days, when the whiskey I was drinking was an everyday standard. A very good way to find just how permanently something attracts is to experience it with regularity, and discover whether its value broadens or diminishes.
Anyway, my advice is to empty those bottles. In the case of currently available bourbons, buy when the current bottle drops below half, as LP notes. If older, harder-to-replace bottlings, enjoying consecutive pours will tell you more about your likes and dislikes than occasional, stingy sips that neither satisfy nor accumulate.

So, Em, a challenge: unless you hope to share that VVOF with someone specific AND have a time/place in mind (and in sight -- don't imagine it won't change at least some as it ages, now that it's open), live with that bottle for as many evenings as it takes to find the bottom, and enrich yourself with some timeless decadence.

Rughi
11-21-2009, 18:54
There's no real need to blow through favorite bottles just to keep ahead of deleterious oxidation. When a bottle that I want to reference in the future starts getting low, I decant to 4oz. bottles and top up completely. This essentially stops the clock on the whiskey, just like it was in an unopened bottle.

Four ounce decants are also a great way to make a gift of a whiskey sampler (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5178&highlight=gift), which I like to do.

Roger

spun_cookie
11-21-2009, 19:34
So, Em, a challenge: unless you hope to share that VVOF with someone specific AND have a time/place in mind (and in sight -- don't imagine it won't change at least some as it ages, now that it's open), live with that bottle for as many evenings as it takes to find the bottom, and enrich yourself with some timeless decadence.

yeah... i know... I am working more frinds from scotch to bourbon... so it willbe gone by mid 2010... no matter what...

silverfish
11-21-2009, 19:50
Four ounce decants are also a great way to make a gift of a whiskey sampler (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5178&highlight=gift), which I like to do.


Wow! Too bad we can't bump a 3 year old thread!
Nice to see the ebottles.com links were still good too.
I'll be placing an order so I can share some stuff with
friends this xmas.

[edit to add - ebottles charges a $15.00 small order
fee for orders under $50.]

I'll need to come up with label ideas - maybe printing
small jpgs on sheets of blank shipping labels?

Thanks for the idea!

TNbourbon
11-21-2009, 20:02
There's no real need to blow through favorite bottles just to keep ahead of deleterious oxidation. When a bottle that I want to reference in the future starts getting low, I decant to 4oz. bottles and top up completely. This essentially stops the clock on the whiskey, just like it was in an unopened bottle.

Four ounce decants are also a great way to make a gift of a whiskey sampler (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5178&highlight=gift), which I like to do.

Roger

I sometimes do the same thing, Roger, and I know and appreciate that you share your faves with others via the 'samplers'. But, it avoids the point of my recommendation -- which is to enjoy the whiskeys as if they are whiskeys, not collectibles.
I suspect that many (most?) of the 'collectible' bottles we enjoy today were purchased by and for folks who didn't/don't particularly care for bourbon. Because, if they did, they'd have drunk the stuff! For every 'dusty' bottle we find today of the better whiskeys, hundreds or thousands of like bottles were opened and drunk. Maybe I'm an oddball (or a genius!:grin: :skep:), but I've relished the rare opportunities I've had to be an 'ordinary' VOF drinker, for example, just like the hundreds and thousands who contemporarily purchased the siblings of the 'unwanted' bottled that fell to me all these years later.
Don't rob your whiskey of its designed function, but give it purpose -- drink it!:soapbox:

Rughi
11-21-2009, 22:16
Tim, do I understand this right - part of your goal is that you want to honor the memory of drinkers who didn't particularly like the whiskey that got them buzzed?

I really like the whiskey I drink and prefer to be able to revisit, share them with others, and refresh my memories of them as I age. Ensuring their rapid extinction isn't a goal for me.

To each his own, I guess.

Roger

silverfish
11-22-2009, 09:28
Thought I'd share the following:

20 bottles with polyseal cap from ebottles
$50.60 + 16.78 shipping = $67.38 total

20 bottles with polyseal cap from specialtybottle.com
$12.00 + 13.74 ups = $25.74

specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=52

TNbourbon
11-22-2009, 11:03
Tim, do I understand this right - part of your goal is that you want to honor the memory of drinkers who didn't particularly like the whiskey that got them buzzed?..
Well, almost, Roger: part of my goal is to honor the memory of those who DID like the bottlings that likely fell to me only because of the few who didn't.

funknik
11-22-2009, 11:10
I have a VWFRR that I've had open since May and only half gone. It is by far the longest I've ever had a single bottle open and I achieve this through intentionally denying it exists: it's at the back of my cabinet, back-to and I never allow myself to pour from it. It was agift from Dr. Entropy and I've never seen another although I know they're more common in other parts of the country . . . If I could find this around here, it would be trouble.

JamesW
11-22-2009, 11:18
I have a VWFRR that I've had open since May and only half gone. It is by far the longest I've ever had a single bottle open and I achieve this through intentionally denying it exists: it's at the back of my cabinet, back-to and I never allow myself to pour from it. It was agift from Dr. Entropy and I've never seen another although I know they're more common in other parts of the country . . . If I could find this around here, it would be trouble.

I agree. My oldest open bottle is also my VWFRR. I have one bunkered now and so I may take a nip once in a while but it is getting dangerously low and until I find more I'm being very cautious.

BBQ+Bourbon
11-22-2009, 16:49
That's when you get a second bottle, and can then enjoy quaffing the last treasured drop of the open bottle.
Normally I would do that, and I have another Lot B. This bottle seems to be better than your standard Lot B. It was intended for a local restaurant but accidentally wound up at a liquor store.

The other bottle will be easier to finish:)

ratcheer
11-22-2009, 17:22
I am awful about this. I have bottles of Henry McKenna 10-yr BIB and Elmer T. Lee that I bought in Kentucky in 2005 that I keep holding back on. But, the worst is that I have bottles of Remy Martin XO, Grand MArnier 150th Anniversary, and Courvoisier VSOP that I bought on a Caribbean vacation in 1990 that I am still nursing! I may have some other old open bottles, as well.

If something is exceptionally good, I make it last. :skep:

Tim

silverfish
12-22-2009, 08:14
After ordering some of the bottles, I thought I'd share
what I came up with. This "sampler pack" is an x-mas
gift for a friend. These are 2 oz bottles with labels
stuck on. They're in a PO box but they're not going
via the mail - it happened to be just the right size to
hold 5 bottles!

From L to R:
Pappy 20 yr
Havana Club Anejo Reserva Rum
Hirsch 16 yr
Death's Door whiskey
GTStagg (2007) 144.8 proof

gblick
12-22-2009, 12:01
That's so cool that you printed up little labels and put them on the bottles.

silverfish
12-23-2009, 08:52
Thanks. The hardest part was sizing the labels I cropped so
they'd fit properly. Printed 'em up on a 8.5" x 11" full sheet
label (from OfficeMax (http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=ARS27260&freeText=om96332&csRedirectSearchString=om96332&csRedirectSearchResultCount=1&csSearchTag=true&_requestid=2821298)) and cut them out.

Between the bottle & labels, it's a fairly inexpensive gift
(not counting the contents, that is!) and relatively easy
to make.