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cowdery
11-24-2009, 07:29
Submitted for your consideration, spotted very recently in Kentucky, Whitetail Caramel Flavored Whiskey.

Note shelf placement.

MarkEdwards
11-24-2009, 07:31
Submitted for your consideration, spotted very recently in Kentucky, Whitetail Caramel Flavored Whiskey.

Note shelf placement.

Any bets that the next abomination will be labelled "Cloven Hoof" or some such? :bigeyes:

barturtle
11-24-2009, 07:59
Did you happen to take note of who made it?

And why Caramel flavored? Isn't bourbon caramel flavored enough?

cowdery
11-24-2009, 08:09
I'm told it was made by "that new rectifier in Bowling Green," but I don't know who that is.

funknik
11-24-2009, 08:29
I'm told it was made by "that new rectifier in Bowling Green," but I don't know who that is.
I'm not at all sure, but that may be the place where Ben Kickert works, Corsair Artisan Distillery, although I don't see White Tail listed under their products -- perhaps he'll chime in on this (to confirm or disconfirm).

It's funny that everyone is sticking with the 'deer' theme . . . I wonder how many poor bastards so far have sent their wife to the liquor store to pick up GT Stagg and ended up with Red Stag.

barturtle
11-24-2009, 08:38
People still "send their wife to the store"? No wonder the divorce rate is ever increasing.

Bourbon(ish) Content: Red Stag is with one "G", George T Stagg is with four.

doubleblank
11-24-2009, 09:32
A flavored whiskey named after a type of deer in a similarly shaped bottle. Red Stag.......Whitetail.....where's the trade dress lawyers when you need them to keep these things from multiplying?

Randy

funknik
11-24-2009, 10:23
Did you happen to take note of who made it?
I'm not at all sure, but that may be the place where Ben Kickert works, Corsair Artisan Distillery, although I don't see White Tail listed under their products.I didn't mean to implicate our dear Mr. Kickert in this atrocity . . . here is our exchange:

Funknik: Ben is Corsair responsible for White Tail Caramel Whiskey?
Kickert: Dear God NO!! It is just Heaven Hill Juice with carmel extract bottled in BG.

So, that puts that possibility to rest.

Sorry to offend, Corsair! :grin:

cas
11-24-2009, 10:38
A flavored whiskey named after a type of deer in a similarly shaped bottle. Red Stag.......Whitetail.....where's the trade dress lawyers when you need them to keep these things from multiplying?

Randy
Maybe separating them on the shelf would minimize the chances of any further proliferation.
Craig

DeanSheen
11-24-2009, 11:01
Good Job HH!

Who the heck is in the test group for these things?

kickert
11-24-2009, 11:21
I didn't mean to implicate our dear Mr. Kickert in this atrocity . . . here is our exchange:

Funknik: Ben is Corsair responsible for White Tail Caramel Whiskey?
Kickert: Dear God NO!! It is just Heaven Hill Juice with carmel extract bottled in BG.

So, that puts that possibility to rest.

Sorry to offend, Corsair! :grin:

We found out about it when a local spirits rep toured our facility and told us about it (it was on the shelves before we even knew there was another DSP here).

I haven't been there, but the rep I talked with said they are basically a big warehouse where they mix carmel extract with bulk HH juice. Apparently they have a pretty massive bottling line there. I am really curious who is behind the operation.

If you are interested, here is their label approval form:
https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=09149001000430

Now I will admit we are experimenting with some flavored whiskies, but ours are completely different. We are starting with our own beer/mash and as it distilling we pass the vapors through our vapor basket to infuse various (all natural) elements. We have a Pumpkin Spice Moonshine that started as a Pumpkin Ale and infused pie spices on the distill. We also have a Russian Imperial Stout where we placed hops in the vapor basket. Certainly not traditional, but it will turn heads and push the envelope.

-bk
Corsair Artisan Distillery

cowdery
11-24-2009, 12:30
I vaguely recall a rumor I heard a few months ago about someone in BG buying a bunch of equipment. "Some rich guy" was all my source knew. Seems unlikely that they did this just to knock-off Red Stag, which after all is less than a year old and far from a proven hit. Inquiring minds want to know. Come on, Ben, BG's not that big.

IronHead
11-24-2009, 15:13
Obviously "some rich guy" with more money than sense...or taste.

ILLfarmboy
11-24-2009, 15:28
Now I will admit we are experimenting with some flavored whiskies, but ours are completely different. We are starting with our own beer/mash and as it distilling we pass the vapors through our vapor basket to infuse various (all natural) elements. We have a Pumpkin Spice Moonshine that started as a Pumpkin Ale and infused pie spices on the distill. We also have a Russian Imperial Stout where we placed hops in the vapor basket. Certainly not traditional, but it will turn heads and push the envelope.

-bk
Corsair Artisan Distillery

That sounds interesting. But as far as all of these whiskeys with additives added at bottling.....Dear God its turning into a madhouse.....a madhouse.........

TNbourbon
11-24-2009, 15:41
Brad Kelley, billionaire founder of Commonwealth Brands tobacco company.
Really, folks, it wasn't that hard -- there's this new-fangled thing called Google...
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/20/3661696.htm
http://www.justaddbourbon.com/bourbonbuzz/article.aspx?id=137

I love the business address: Camping World Court! Seems about right.

fishnbowljoe
11-24-2009, 17:26
Let's see....what's next? Maybe Spotted Elk chocolate/vanilla flavored bourbon. How about Blue Moose, grape flavored bourbon. The possibilities are endless. :skep: Joe

spun_cookie
11-24-2009, 18:56
Submitted for your consideration, spotted very recently in Kentucky, Whitetail Caramel Flavored Whiskey.

Note shelf placement.


Wrong... just wrong I tell you ...

darkluna
11-24-2009, 19:33
Submitted for your consideration, spotted very recently in Kentucky, Whitetail Caramel Flavored Whiskey.

Note shelf placement.
They really need to put this stuff over on the liqueur shelves and keep it away from the actual whiskey. It's not whiskey!!

kickert
11-24-2009, 19:59
I vaguely recall a rumor I heard a few months ago about someone in BG buying a bunch of equipment. "Some rich guy" was all my source knew. Seems unlikely that they did this just to knock-off Red Stag, which after all is less than a year old and far from a proven hit. Inquiring minds want to know. Come on, Ben, BG's not that big.

This whole thing was a surprise to us. Their DSP # is 2 later than ours. We received ours mid-2008 and their label approval was submitted at the end of May. So the whole thing has been on lightening pace for them. I am guessing these guys are in cohoots with one of the big producers. These guys are not following the path of Micros. They received instant distribution all over the place and obviously have major production capacity. If they have those kind of resources it doesn't make any sense for them start with such an odd product. It is also interesting how their label is worded, especially with what we know "bottled for Blue Star Distilling Company by Three Springs Bottling Company." I have heard the bottling line is pretty massive and I wonder who this Blue Star is and what they have planned... another DAvid Sherman or KBD? Are the two sister companies? Who knows.

The name on the COLA is Andrew Wiles and I have never heard of him... that just adds to the mystery.

I am going to have to do some recon to see what their place looks like. I will keep you posted.

kickert
11-24-2009, 20:00
Brad Kelley, billionaire founder of Commonwealth Brands tobacco company.
Really, folks, it wasn't that hard -- there's this new-fangled thing called Google...
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/20/3661696.htm
http://www.justaddbourbon.com/bourbonbuzz/article.aspx?id=137

I love the business address: Camping World Court! Seems about right.

Camping World (the RV supplier) has their headquarters in BG. Commonwealth Brands is also based in BG.

spun_cookie
11-24-2009, 20:09
Camping World (the RV supplier) has their headquarters in BG. Commonwealth Brands is also based in BG.

I was just here in Tucson today.... got a new colman water heater ..

TomH
11-24-2009, 20:42
Did you happen to take note of who made it?

And why Caramel flavored? Isn't bourbon caramel flavored enough?

While I have no desire to buy this (I won't say I won't try it if it appears on somewhere for tasting) actually caramel goes very well with bourbon. When we were in Vegas last month, we had lunch at BLT Burger which had a milkshake made from ice cream, caramel, and Makers Mark which was fantastic.

Tom

cowdery
11-24-2009, 20:58
As I've said before in the Red Stag threads, "flavored whiskey" has been part of the Standards of Identity for decades and differs from liqueurs in terms of sugar and GNS content, though I haven't made a careful study of it. Point is, it's nothing new, i.e., not a sign of the Apocalypse.

But that doesn't make it right.

cowdery
11-24-2009, 21:36
Brad Kelley, billionaire founder of Commonwealth Brands tobacco company.
Really, folks, it wasn't that hard -- there's this new-fangled thing called Google...
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/20/3661696.htm
http://www.justaddbourbon.com/bourbonbuzz/article.aspx?id=137

I love the business address: Camping World Court! Seems about right.

You understate your superior journalistic abilities, Tim. Thanks for digging that up.

cowdery
11-24-2009, 21:48
Click here (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/business/yourmoney/25trail.html?pagewanted=print) for what, about half way through, becomes a fairly amusing story about Mr. Kelley.

TNbourbon
11-25-2009, 07:04
Click here (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/business/yourmoney/25trail.html?pagewanted=print) for what, about half way through, becomes a fairly amusing story about Mr. Kelley.
Great story, Chuck! I may have to buy a bottle of his White Wildebeest, or whatever it is, should I see it, just on general principle. Guys like this give all of us hope (at the same time they shame us).

p_elliott
11-25-2009, 07:29
Let's see....what's next? Maybe Spotted Elk chocolate/vanilla flavored bourbon. How about Blue Moose, grape flavored bourbon. The possibilities are endless. :skep: Joe

Joe that would be grape kool-aid flavored bourbon.

AVB
11-27-2009, 13:45
The bourbon equivalent of Bear-Whiz Beer

http://onceuponawin.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bear-whiz-beer.jpg

jburlowski
11-27-2009, 16:33
Don't forget the other Kentucky favorite:

http://www.horsepissbeer.com/images/web_label506_nb8n.jpg

MrB
12-07-2009, 19:27
Although I havent tried it, I do enjoy whitetail deer hunting with a flask of favorite bourbon . Bourbon and sportsman kinda just go together. A good name for a whiskey or liquer

Stu
12-09-2009, 11:09
Although I havent tried it, I do enjoy whitetail deer hunting with a flask of favorite bourbon . Bourbon and sportsman kinda just go together. A good name for a whiskey or liquer

I prefer to save my flask for after the hunt. That way I don't see twins or triplets and I don't have to figure out which one to shoot.

kickert
01-25-2010, 12:43
Let's see....what's next? Maybe Spotted Elk chocolate/vanilla flavored bourbon. How about Blue Moose, grape flavored bourbon. The possibilities are endless. :skep: Joe

I have the answer to your question:

Bird Dog Blackberry Flavored Whiskey

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=09257001000135

ErichPryde
01-25-2010, 16:18
I have the answer to your question:

Bird Dog Blackberry Flavored Whiskey

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=09257001000135


damn I bet that stuff would make good waffle syrup!

CorvallisCracker
01-25-2010, 17:09
Submitted for your consideration, spotted very recently in Kentucky, Whitetail Caramel Flavored Whiskey.

Note shelf placement.

At $17.99, the price is not too dear.

craigthom
01-25-2010, 18:05
At $17.99, the price is not too dear.

That just breaks my hart.

Cmurfs73
01-25-2010, 19:33
its amazing that phillips union whiskey was onto something a few years back but just couldnt get the consumer. Fast forward and now the bourbon section is going to look like the damn liquer section before you know it...