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Dutchie66
01-13-2010, 06:23
I bought these two bottles
Can anybody tell me how old these are.
One has a white label and the other one is creamy/beige. Text on both bottles is the same.

http://www.whiskeyminiatures.nl/WEBSITE/1%20(34).JPGhttp://www.whiskeyminiatures.nl/WEBSITE/1%20(35).JPG

Josh
01-13-2010, 07:02
According to Dave Z's post here: http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7539 ADC got out of the Whiskey business in 1980 so it can't be later than that. Judging by an ad for sale on ebay, they are probably from the 1970s.

The facility there is going to be reopened to make ethenol for fuel, and possibly for drinking too according to this article: http://www.ethanolmarket.com/PressReleaseMGPI112309

TNbourbon
01-13-2010, 18:49
...The facility there is going to be reopened to make ethenol for fuel...according to this article: http://www.ethanolmarket.com/PressReleaseMGPI112309
Well, there IS a line of thought that that's pretty much what they made when they were bottling it as Bourbon Supreme.:skep:

Josh
01-14-2010, 07:02
Well, there IS a line of thought that that's pretty much what they made when they were bottling it as Bourbon Supreme.:skep:

:lol: Well, that one's going on the "dusties to avoid" list. thanks Tim!

Dutchie66
02-13-2010, 10:25
Well, i opened one of them.
Big disappointment. Almost no taste, comes close to the referred ethanol.
The proof is still there but no flavour.
I think i blend it with a JB.

Rughi
02-13-2010, 10:32
Pretty bottle, but no need to open them.

"Charcoal Distilled" or distilled charcoal? :grin:

Roger

barturtle
02-13-2010, 10:41
Bourbon Supreme is possibly the worst bourbon even bottled. Even the most reviled bourbons and blends available on the shelves currently are much, much better. I wouldn't even recommend blending with Jim Beam, as it would just make the Beam even less drinkable than it currently is.

Dutchie66
02-13-2010, 10:56
Tn Bourbon already warned for this but i was just too curious.
I have an Old Quaker from that same era(?) which i like very much.
What you suggest i'll do with it, part from flushing through the sink.

barturtle
02-13-2010, 11:32
What you suggest i'll do with it, part from flushing through the sink.

I suggest saving it for unsuspecting guests...talking up what a great whiskey era it hails from, what a unique flavor profile it represents, how rare it its to find such a distinctive whiskey anymore....then wait for their reaction.:lol:

Dutchie66
02-13-2010, 11:48
:lol: my girlfriend told me almost the same.

cowdery
02-13-2010, 15:22
Pekin is very close to Peoria and still has an active distillery, as does Peoria. Both make GNS for various purposes, including vodka.

It's interesting to see how Illinois Bourbon was marketed, in this case as American Straight Bourbon Whiskey, a redundancy since bourbon has to be American.

pepcycle
02-13-2010, 15:36
Rebottle it as a WR special bottling.

Dutchie66
02-13-2010, 21:21
Tried it once more yesterdaynight but i don't even want to serve this to guests.I flushed the whole bottle through the sink. Maybe the rats have a party now.

Luna56
03-13-2010, 22:07
By pure conicidence, a friend of mine happened to have a bottle of this open on Friday night and we sampled some. It really wasn't all that bad! It definitely benefitted from some time in the glass, but it wasn't harsh or unpleasant at all. I wouldn't go so far to say it was GOOD, but it surely was not entirely repugnant. I'd pick it over JBW in a heartbeat, for whatever that's worth. :

Would I buy any? Hell, no. But I was pleasantly surprised and underwhelmed at the same time. When your reaction is more complex than your bourbon; well, that counts for something, right? :grin

Cheers!

craigthom
03-14-2010, 11:15
Isn't Skyy vodka distilled in Pekin? I know I read that somewhere before I even knew there was a distillery in Pekin, but I haven't been able to find that or any other confirmation.

Dramiel McHinson
03-14-2010, 14:03
Tried it once more yesterdaynight but i don't even want to serve this to guests.I flushed the whole bottle through the sink. Maybe the rats have a party now.

Oooops. I got here too late. Sounds like perfect whiskey for a rebarreling experiment. No worries. The alcohol will cut back on anything floral growing in your sewer pipes for a little while.

Sometimes I use whiskey the same way I use wine. If I can't enjoy drinking it then I reduce it for a nice bourbon glaze. The glaze works well for meats as well as desserts. For wine, you can use it for cooking or make vinegar from it. Or, as you have discovered, use the non-drinkable stuff as a cleanser/disinfectant. If it's 100 proof, it also makes a good charcoal lighter for the BBQ.

If you follow these suggestions or come up with other ideas, you will never be arrested for alcohol abuse.:grin:

Rughi
03-14-2010, 14:10
...Sounds like perfect whiskey for a rebarreling experiment...

That's what I did with mine :grin: It did a great job of conditioning a 2 gallon barrel that later held our Willett 4yo rebarrel. The Bourbon Supreme now makes a great concentrated cooking bourbon. Great for deglazing!

Roger

cowdery
03-15-2010, 08:25
Isn't Skyy vodka distilled in Pekin? I know I read that somewhere before I even knew there was a distillery in Pekin, but I haven't been able to find that or any other confirmation.

The MGPI distillery in Pekin is one of the GNS plants from which Skyy has purchased GNS. It's probably thought of as Skyy's distillery because one of those History Channel or Discovery Channel shows did something about Skyy and showed MGPI as the distillery.

Pekin is adjacent to Peoria and both had a lot of whiskey production pre-Prohibition. Peoria still has ADM's ethanol plant in what used to be Hiram Walker's Biggest Distillery in the World and Pekin still has MGPI. (The acronym stands for Midwest Grain Products Ingredients.)

MGPI closed down in February 2009, as the company consolidated its operations at its Kansas headquarters, but it reopened last month.

Here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13091) is some info about the company, previously posted on SB.com. Here (http://www.pekintimes.com/news/x228086628/MGP-Ingredients-reports-second-quarter-profits) is something recent from the Pekin Daily Times.

cowdery
03-17-2010, 19:09
Back to Bourbon Supreme, the attached is from the Luxco website. It is the specifications for Bourbon Supreme. You'll note that although it says it is in the category of "Bourbon," several expressions are identified as blended whiskey.

OscarV
03-17-2010, 20:53
Has anyone seen the "Blended Whiskey" version of Bourbon Supreme?

ErichPryde
03-18-2010, 07:19
Oooops. I got here too late. Sounds like perfect whiskey for a rebarreling experiment. No worries.


Yeah no worries, if you want some, there are several bottles of that still sitting in OKC. Several incarnations of bourbon supreme there, actually... with some of the bottles being quite old, quite dusty, and quite left behind.

ErichPryde
03-18-2010, 07:26
Has anyone seen the "Blended Whiskey" version of Bourbon Supreme?


Yes.... There are a lot of bottles of the KSB and the blended versions in OKC. I think most of them were competing with the really early Beam blended sunnybrook for shelf space.

One of the bottles I remember really looking at had the tassel just like the one pictured in the first post- but after reading the labels, I left it behind.

Oscar, if you'd like some I might be able to have a member of my family grab a bottle and ship it to me.... Not sure why you'd want one, though.

OscarV
03-18-2010, 14:34
Oscar, if you'd like some I might be able to have a member of my family grab a bottle and ship it to me.... Not sure why you'd want one, though.

Thanx 4 the offer but it would probably be best if I kept the legend in my mind.:cool: