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Due to the overwhelming positive responce (and ongoing relevancy) to the original thread, there have been so many posts that some of us with dial up modems that are having a hard time loading the original thread. The best course of action I can think of is to create a new thread and continue on there. So fire away.
Anyway, I am going to go have an Manhattan with Old Granddad BIB before eating dinner, the spiciness seems to me to lend itself marvelously to the drink.
Rock on Yo!
Hi all- drinking Old Forrester-100 proof tonight- read on the forum that it has the same style as the birthday bourbon. It is good, but a long way from the birthday bourbon. The birthday bourbon is very special indeed!Smoooooth!!! and balanced perfectly.
Good choice Marvin. I dearly love OF 100. I will disagree with your assertion that it has a "long way to go" before reaching the BB. IMHO it is closer to a photo finish. I think we should do a comparison tasting of the two. Look for that thread maybe tomorrow night http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Old Fitzgerald BIB. I am working on my first ever bottle of this one. As far as wheated bourbons go I would rank this one equal to Maker's Mark, slightly above Weller, and well below the Van Winkle's. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif
Thanks for taking pity on those of us with constricted information flow. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
A little earlier this afternoon I was composing a post (which Windows 98 saw fit to trash) while drinking a scant shot of EWSB '92. Unlike some reviewers, I have a hard time working up a lot of passion about this bourbon.
I've read glowing praise, and I've read damnation by the faintest possible praise. I don't get either viewpoint.
It has more than a tad of the mediciney quality that I associate with EC12 (and that's a good thing), along with some other notes that I haven't identified. This afternoon I would have sworn that there was the aroma of the peach-picking sheds that I knew as a kid, and some of that even carried over to the palate.
I find it to be an interesting drink with a unique flavor profile, but perhaps a bit overpriced -- I find EC12 more enjoyable for less money.
Now, let's see... What was I writing about when my screen went zappooski?
Almost brings a tear to my eyes to see such a wonderful thread come to an end. With 3357 hits and 246 posts it was hands down the most popular thread on the board. Way to go Clogsdon http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif Maybe everyone here should just get DSL like me http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Right now it's Birthday Bourbon, the shining star of my Super Bowl lineup. As for Sunday, the Stagg performed more than admirably, as the true all pro that it is; the Kentucky Spirit, however, was brash and noisy and (as I have frequently thought) alot of top end show without the substance to back it up; but the Birthday Bourbon was, on Sunday anyway, as sublime a bourbon as one could ask for. There just isn't anything about it that I would change, except maybe to kick up the proof a bit.
I will read with interest any comparisons between the OF BIB and the 2002 Birthday. The BIB is presently AWOL from the bunker. In my humble opinion, the Birthday Bourbon is "all that" and more. I agree completely that it is "perfectly balanced," quite simply a fabulous, full-bodied bourbon that deserves to sit deep in the bunker for years to come.
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the Kentucky Spirit, however, was brash and noisy and (as I have frequently thought) alot of top end show without the substance to back it up
You're killing me here. That kind of talk is blasphemy around these parts. The BB is very, very good, but it needs to learn its place in the bourbon pecking order. KS is hands down the single best, always available, bourbon on the market. If you have read any of my posts you will know that I hold all of the OF bourbons in high esteem, but Wild Turkey puts them all to shame. God Bless Jimmy Russell http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif
Jeff, just my reaction to this one particular year 2000 KS bottle on this one particular Sunday. I plan to investigate a 2002 bottle of KS that's in the bunker and some other WT bottlings in there, including a Rare Breed, Russell's Reserve, and a Ltd. Ed. gold label 12yo, to learn more about the Russell profile, generally, and to try to understand why I am frequently disappointed by this particular KS bottle.
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just my reaction to this one particular year 2000 KS bottle
2000? My god man, didn't you check the "born-on" dating on the bottle? You've got a bottle of skunky bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I may have to save this bottle for a serious September gazebo critique (after salvaging the pewter stopper for posterity)!
See, the shitty thing is I WANT to get DSL, and would even pay for it, but they dont provide it around here. . . http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif
I will agree wholeheartedly that Wild Turkey Bourbon is king of the roost ( I ranked Russell's Reserve at #1 ahead of Birthday Bourbon myself, have yet to try KS), but I will admit I am quite biased toward their whiskeys basic profile. They also get extra credit for bottling the vast majority of their bourbon (&rye) at 101 proof http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif !
Marvin has been saying so many good things about VOB BIB recently that I just had to tap that bottle yet again. It had a pretty little sweet butterscoth undertone in it that just begged to be rolled around in the mouth, with a luxurious spicy finish. You can tell that all the extra effort that went into it payed off!
Your cable company doesn't even offer a high speed connection Tom? Wow, i though for sure Ohio would have it... Just wait, i'm sure with time...
after several days of blantons, i decided to try eagle rare 10yr again.
It was good, so good i ended up having 3 drinks before 8pm http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
All the major cities have it, and some of the surrounding areas as well, but when they deregulated the cable companies a while back it slowed the spread through to the more rural areas to a halt. BLEAH. It will get here eventually I know, but the wait is annoying.
My cable connection isn't as good as it used to be. It used to be super fast, but now, all of the damn pop ups keep slowing things down, and many times, freezing up the computer, so I just turn it off and start over. I know that I'm still better off then with a regular old modem, but it sure is frustrating when all I want to do is read what my friends at StraightBourbon have to say! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
Good idea Jeff! That is what I have been doing for the last couple of hours-First OF 100-very good-a little coarse-definetly dark chocolate-a little carmel and spices and a hint of leather-full bodied-hint of butterscotch and oranges and a sharp touch of spicy rye. One hour later the birthday bourbon-seems to come together a little smoother-chocolate covered cherries-(I love that chocolate)-definetly the same style of bourbon, but Oh!so smoooooth!!! No harshness what-so-ever-certainly this is my kind of bourbon. Sure wish Linn was here to set us straight on this matter, but as long as we can disagree with two bourbons this good I think we are both in luck!
The old thread has done me proud. It made me feel good that a newbie like me could get you all talking so much.
I have just one request for MurphyDawg - kill your thread before it gets as big as my old one! I want the record! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif We'll get another modem volunteer to start phase three of the thread in a few months just so I can still be top dawg. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
In front of me at the moment are a glass each of the BB, WR and OF100. These were used as scientific data in my recent Brown-Foreman study. All truely fine bourbons, but the BB is just the best, end of story!
jeff - When you are right you are right!
George T Stagg with a single ice cube. I am feeling a little free're with the Stagg since my recent discovery of hidden treasures. I now have 6 full bottles and about 1/2 of my first bottle. This is also the first time I am drinking it with anything added. As the ice melts I am getting stronger hints of black tea and honey. Very nice. Also, being chilled takes a little of the burn out of the start and finish, and allows more of the flavors to shine through.
The birthday bourbon IS all that! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif We can only hope for something as good or better this year. Hopefully in time for the festival!
Hello, Today I received my Reidel Bourbon Glasses. Washed them in hot suds dried them off and then poured a nice portion of Vanwinkle 13yr Rye. I first noticed a more pronounced boquet. It seems this glass has the ability to send it's boquet right to your nose. My first impressions on these bourbon glasse are very favorable. The 13yr Rye well it's always deleciuos regardless of what I drink it in. Tomorrow I plan to open another bottle of 16yt Hirsch and see what my new Borubon Glass says to me. Creggor..
Glass say: "You one lucky son-of-a-gun, Creggor" http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Fighting Cock, 6 year old.
I must say, this bourbon isn't bad. Less pepper than WT101, and its on special in NC for $12 a bottle.
You can taste the Heaven Hill, but its warmer than EWSB 92, less char/smoke than EC18. good stuff. A tad short on the finish though.
Old Fitz 1849 and Old Fitz 12 yo. I finished off the remnants of both bottles tonight. And last night I finished off the Old Fitz BIB. (There wasn't alot left in any of the bottles.) Gotta make room for the 1.75L of Buffalo Trace I am picking up this week at my parents'.
I really like the 1849 - so silky smooth, so easy to drink. The 12 yo is a different story. A couple months ago, I was disappointed with the 12 yo because I was expecting a better 1849. Well, it isn't in the same flavor category as the 1849. The 12 yo is much more complex and takes alot more effort to appreciate. The 1849 is, well, bourbon candy. No effort required, just sip and enjoy. The 12 yo makes you think to appreciate it. If I find it again, I will give it another shot and give it a more fair appraisal. But, I will definitely buy more 1849 next time I am in KY.
The ice makes a big difference in the Stagg. I prefer it. I've read several posts claiming this is blasphemy but will stick by my guns. If you haven't tried it, don't beat up on it. This is a different (and IMHO better) bourbon on the rocks.
My first bottle of Stagg was neat all the way. But, I'll have to put your theory to the test tomorrow night when I encounter my second bottle.
I am heading to my parents' in WV where I have accumulated a stash from many sources (WV stores, KY stores, and Sam's in Chicago who won't ship to NC.) I've been looking forward to this trip for weeks!
I am sipping Old Grand Dad 114, straight. This is one beautiful bourbon. Excellent taste and aroma with a super spicy finish.
I could no longer name a top five. I would probably even have trouble narrowing it to a top ten. While this OGD 114 is one of my favorites, it would be easy to name 8 or 10 others I like just as much. This is the good life.
AAA 10yo with 2 ice cubes. I think this one benefits froma little ice. A good all-around bourbon thats easy to drink. One of my three "everyday pours".
Agreed. It is one of the few I still drink over ice regularly. Mighty tasty that way.
Kentucky Tavern, on ice. Trying to finish up this half pint is becoming more of a chore than I would have imagined. It really doesn't resemble any of the other wheaters that I enjoy. Almost as spicy as a rye bourbon, with strong yeast influences and a slight medicinal taste. Very thin with a somewhat foul aftertaste that lingers way too long. I don't think I would even use this one to cook with, and it would never touch my bourbon balls. Note to self: save the rest for that special friend who "loves" bourbon...in coke http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
"This moment", you ask? It's Jefferson Reserve. You see, a bit earlier this afternoon, as I was composing my "Wild Turkey 101 vs. Old Forester BIB" post in the Tasting forum, I drank a shot of George T. Stagg.
For some reason it tasted even better than it did the three or four previous times I've sipped it. That caused me to wonder whether my taster was in a charitable mood this afternoon. I recalled that I had been disappointed with JR the two previous times I had tasted it. I thought that in my present frame of mind I might find it more to my liking.
I ate a couple of crackers and drank a glass of water; then I rinsed and dried my Wild Turkey shot glass and poured an ounce of Jefferson's Reserve. This is certainly not a bad bourbon (I may try to do a more detailed tasting when I'm about half-way through this bottle), but I'm sure glad it was on sale when I bought it. Even at that sale price ($41.99, IIRC) I consider it to be over-priced.
It has a nice nose that suggests French toast, a touch of ripe pear appears on the palate, and it goes down really smoothly. However, the finish leaves my mouth and lips feeling as dry as autumn leaves. I like a bit of dryness at the finish, but this one goes too far. Overall, I expect more enjoyment and no dischordant notes at such a high price.
While I'm picking nits, I'll also comment on the bottle, even though I think it is quite beautiful. (Its photo on the main page at StraightBourbon.com makes me thirsty just looking at it.) Its beauty notwithstanding, the hollow, glass stopper feels as light and flimsy as the Kentucky Spirit stopper feels heavy and robust. I was afraid it might break if I set it on the counter too hard. (So much for my being in a charitable mood, eh? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif )
B'B'D, Nice choice on the JR! This is a Top 5 for me, I choose the Knob Creek tonight, as my JR bottle is verrrry low. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif I will follow up with another glass of the KC, or perhaps "The Stagg". http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
I'm not sure if I have properly conveyed what I think of GT Stagg. I must say this, on the few times that I have followed it with any other Bourbon the end result has been disappointing indeed. On the up side ( if there is one) I suppose I should do them all that way and in the event that I am not disappointed then I will have found an extrordinary Bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
I hear ya! That happened to me last week. I had the Fox the night after GTS. GTS ruins it for everybody else. You need to get it long out of your taste bud memories so that you can enjoy your other bourbons.
In honor of Julian's return to the forum I am having an ORVW 10yo 107proof. Just as wonderful as ever, but with a little more kick this time out. I suppose it is because I haven't eaten in a while. Good to know that this is the same bourbon as the Old Commonwealth. Thought for a minute I was going to have to spend some more time tracking down yet another limited edition. Can't wait for tax-refund time and that bottle of Pappy http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I'm enjoying Wild Turkey, Kentucky Spirit with just a splash of water. A CLASSIC!
Tonight I am on the cheap. W L Weller 7 YO. Not bad though. I'm sure the third will be better than the first.
It always is. The third time is the charm. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
If you haven't read my ramblings elsewhere here (late) tonight, I have partaken in WT 12 yo (through a trade - THANKS) and followed it up with, uh, what is that stuff I like so much, some antler thingy. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
Dan Nicholson 1843......turning into a favorite value bourbon.
I considered many bottles and fretted that most are half empty...so, not wanting to drain the best even lower...I went 180 degrees and picked something from across the pond. However, realizing bourbon is to be drunk (Linn), I have grabbed a small pour of KS to finish the night..as inspired by Bob..good call!
As many of us here think that KS is a great bourbon, I'm glad that I was able to contribute to your inspiration to enjoy KS! It's always great!
As I peruse the February 2003 issue of The Bourbon Country Reader (http://cowdery.home.netcom.com/page9.html) , I am drinking Corner Creek while reading the lead article, coincidentally (or not) titled, "REVIEW: Corner Creek Reserve Bourbon Whiskey", by Charles Kendrick Cowdery (as are all the articles in this issue of this six-times-a-year publication).
[Comments regarding Corner Creek moved to "Tasting" forum.]
Elmer T Lee single barrel. Very familiar taste profile here, like many of the BT bourbons. Lots of licorice in the nose, which has been a constant for me with this bourbon, but tonight I am getting a little cotton candy, or maybe it's toasted marshmallows, on the palate. Not quite as much burn either.
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or maybe it's toasted marshmallows
BINGO! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif , thats the simple deeper, older sweetness I get from ETL, toasted marshmallows!!
Bulleit Bourbon. Pulled this one from the back of my stash, haven't had any in several months. Medium-bodied with a slight medicinal taste. Hay and Camphor. Not quite what I remember, but nothing really sounded all that good tonight. I think I am feeling blah from the weather. I think I will put this one back in the back and wait until summer for another try.
That teetotaling plan of mine lasted all of five days. I was determined to give it a run (and I will give it a run again soon), but my father-in-law came a visiting. He drinks very little for health reasons, but he loves his flavors, spirits and food included (sound familiar, Jeff?). So, I treated him to ORVW 13 yo rye on Friday (as I have talked to him over the phone for months about this whiskey) and GTS on Sunday. I was letting him taste both so he could choose one to take a bottle back with him from my stash. (See, Bobby, I am romantic.) Of course, that broke the freaking ice for me and I started on Friday and kept on rolling through Sunday.
And worked sucked so bad today that I wanted to savor some ORVW to even things out. So back to the topic of this thread, my first imbibment tonight was ORVW 10 yo, but, dang, I know you are tired of me saying this, GTS has spoiled me, so I needed something with more flavor, so my second imbibement was ORVW 15 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
BTW, the imbibements this weekend were ORVW 13 yo Rye on Friday, GTS on Saturday (finished bottle #2), Wathens on Sunday (yes, I opened GTS bottle #3 for my father-in-law, but somehow resisted myself), and ORVW 10/15 tonite. Damn, life is good.
Kentucky Spirit with a single ice cube. Until recently, for the last several months I have been drinking my bourbon almost exclusively neat. The last week or so I have been adding one small ice cube to most of my drinks. This has been a pleasant experience as I am discovering new flavors that aren't always apparent neat. That said, I think I prefer KS neat. The ice seems to be masking the warm vanilla and caramel notes that I love, and letting the spicier rye side show through. Not bad by any means, but if it ain't broke... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
I've decided tonight is a good night for Whiskey Sour's.. So, Jim Beam 7 year for me tonight.. Not the best in the world, I know, but when I mix Bourbon/Whiskey with a mixer (rarely) I usually focus more on a good mixer than the bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Hi to all. Started with EW single barrel 93 Barrel 039 neat. OMG this is nice. Put the cork back in before I decided to kill it and started on the VOB 86. I took one sip neat and decided to add the coke. So I'm a wuss. It has a bit of a pepper taste. Even with coke I am not that happy. I would go back to the EW but I want to keep it for guests. I have a little Ezra I should finish so that may be next. Enjoy! and Cheers.
Back to one of my firsts (being relatively new to bourbon) Buffalo Trace (bought at the distillery and signed by Elmer). I have always like this one. Honey nose, nice mouth and mild finish. I have not tried EW products...but your post makes me interested http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
I started off the evening with Old Fitzgerald 1849. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif I moved on to Weller Centennial. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif I poured Old Rip Van Winkel 10yr 107. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif I am now on the Old Weller Antique 107. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif It's a very smooth quiet night. Perfect night for tying trout flies. Good bourbon to drink and good dogs by my feet, life is good.
Last night I opened my first bottle of Old Fitzgerald 1849. I was impressed enough with the BIB to spend a little more money. I find it nice enough, but slightly underwhelming. To me it tastes like Old Weller Antique 107 without the medicinal qualities or the tannins. I have been wanting to try the VSOF, but now I think I might wait on something else.
I'm drinking a toast to Tom C. with 20 year old Pappy Van Winkel in hopes that all his hard work will pay off in the not to distant future. Huzzah! - Linn
http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Thanx Man (BLLLEEEEE!!!) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
You must be a wheater man thru and thru. What'd you think about following Old Rip 10-107 with the Old Weller Antique?
Some of us here have likened the Old Weller Antique to a "poor man's" Old Rip while others here cringe at making such a comparison. I think the 2 have definite similarities but would side with Old Rip any day if I had to make a choice.
I am thouroghly enjoying Old Charter's Proprietor's Reserve, with just a splash of water. What a great bourbon! It has a nice rye spiciness that is just delicious. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
A friend came by, a few shots of Stagg followed by a few of Wild Turkey 12. Actually the WT held up good , I have had dissappointing experiences following the Stagg with anything! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
In one hand I have a glass of Stagg. In the other a glass of Booker's. Life is good http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif
My third drink of Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve. This has to be as fine a bourbon as can be had at 90 proof. Very smooth yet rich with flavors of orange and vanilla. And there it is again: hints of acetone http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
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And there it is again: hints of acetone
Ya just gotta quit doing tastings right after you have your nails done. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Seriously, I recall from biology class about 45 years ago that there is at least one recessive genetic trait having to do with the ability to detect certain smells. I wonder whether something that esoteric may explain why you experience what you identify as acetone in two pretty fine bourbons (so far -- that I know of).
Enjoying a large Baker's 107 before my evening meal. I think this bourbon exudes a cognac like quality, that when I am in the mood, must rate as one of my faves. I think one or two more after dinner drinks is likely!
Began with a pour of the last bit of Jefferson's Reserve left in the bottle and now cracked open a new bottle of Elmer T. Lee. Ahh, the taste of that BT Mashbill that most here have grown to love. Both neat of course. Life is definitely good! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
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I'm with ya 'Dox. I had the exact same thing last night! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif .....Going with the Rock Hill Farms tonight! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif I get alot of shucked green corn, and butterscotch on their pours which I really love. Life AND BT is GOOD! See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
Again, Rock Hill Farms in a large crystal snifter (and yes, I am a firm believer in what good glassware can do!)....Waterford Crystal! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif Like I said I get a lot of shucked, green corn and butterscotch. Not a twin, but to me it favors Blanton's in many respects. See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
Tonight it's Old Commonwealth neat. Julian can sure pick a batch of barrels, I tell you. Yummy, this whiskey.
Another glass of Old Chater Proprietor's Reserve. I can't believe how long and how many times I passed over this fine bourbon. Rich and mouth coating. Tonight I am getting a little cinnamon with a creamy butter-rum like flavor. Not so much acetone tonight http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
I'm glad you like the Proprietor's Reserve. It really is a fine tasting bourbon! It's definitely rich, creamy, and mouth coating. Do you get much rye flavor, like I described in the Tasting thread? I'm working on getting the Classic 90 so that I can do a comparison.
Old Rip Van Winkle 7/107 was what I had last night, so I'm feelin' ya! I just didnt get a chance to pop on and post about it!!
As a promise to Bettye Jo, tonight I am sipping 93' EWSB neat and enjoying every glass! I'm really beginning to fall in love with each passing year of Evan Williams Single Barrel...
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I have yet to purchase a bottle of the 93. How do you compare it to the last couple of years? I say that because I really like the 91, but I could pass on the 92.
I do get a good dose of rye flavor on the back-end, but without the tell-tale spicy kick on the finish. I think this is the first time I have drank the same bourbon for 3 straight nights exclusively since I have ammassed a decent "bunker". I must thank you again for bringing it to my attention http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif
I'd have to say this year seems to be different from the rest, so it may be worth a try to you. I don't have any open other years to compare to right now, but I finished the 92 not too long ago. I can say that, in my opinion, the 92 was 'kicked up a notch' or bolder. The 93 seems to be a bit more mellow. Not that's it's a light bourbon just missing that certain citrus I got from last year. I hate to admit this, but even after years of drinking bourbon and reading tastings on here, I can't quite pull off what some of you guys do when it comes to picking out very specific flavors like black tea, specific fruits etc... I get the basic char, oak, vanilla, brown sugar, maple candy etc... In the end though, I'd say grab a bottle and see for yourself. Hell, I'd love to read your impressions anyways! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
You are most welcome. I thank you and everyone else here for many wonderful new bourbons to my attention. I guess that's one of the many benefits of this site! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Happy Birthday , Mr. Brown!
OF 100 W/Coke about 75/25. Had some Fighting Cock first just to try it. I would have never bought a bottle but one of my golfing buds got some and said I should try it. Not too bad.
last night I had Four Roses Yellow Label. What there is there is quite good, but at 80 proof I just dont think there is quite enough of it!
Well, I've teetotaled 2 of the last 3 weeks (weekdays that is). Last night, to break the drought from the previous week (and 4 lb. loss), I enjoyed Buffalo Trace. One day, I will match it up against OF100 to determine my favorite daily pour.
Tonight, I started with OFBB. Folks, this bottling just doesn't tickle my fancy like it does you all. Maybe I need to match it up against OF 100 to see what the problem is.
For dinner, I had the old standby, Italian sausage, mozz. cheese, peppers, and onions. (Love that low-carb diet!) I graced it with the Fox. This the first time I've had the Fox since my first sampling a few weeks ago, the night after Stagg. This time, the Fox shone. It just needs to be away from robust, high proof bottlings so that its 90 proof silky smoothness can work its magic.
EC 12YO. I have yet to try the 18. I think this is perfect at 12. Must be the best value in the Bourbon world. http://www.heavenhill.co.nz/elijah_Craig2001.jpg
Mine looks just like this but it's half full. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Baker's -- in my Glencairn taster's glass -- with a glass of Arrowhead water by its side.
Lately, I have seldom been drinking while posting. The exception happened this time because I left a glass of Baker's sitting out overnight.
I had tried to do some reading last night, but I went to sleep after only a couple of pages (and after only a couple of unsatisfying sips). When I finally staggered off to bed, I neglected to attend to the nearly full glass of Baker's.
When I found it this afternoon, I almost dumped it. Then, recalling the stories about how an empty glass smells so good the morning after, I decided to take a sip. I was amazed to discover that it tasted better than it had last night.
That led to a fruitless search of StraightBourbon.com for others' reports on possible taste changes in overnight, leftover bourbon.
My comeuppance came when I decided to pour another glass, having finished the leftover one. I rinsed and dried the glass before refilling it, fully expecting the taste to revert back to what I rememberd from last night. I was wrong.
The more enjoyable taste of today was still there. In short, it was I who had changed overnight, not the glass of Baker's.
Now I am on my third glass, and I have decided that Baker's is what Jim Beam white label wants to be when it grows up -- not black label, not Knob Creek, not Booker's, and certainly not that 80 proof stuff named after Old Grand Dad, hisself. This bottle is about 80% gone, and I'm finally "getting it". Gee, I wonder if Binny's Beverage Depot (http://binnys.com/scr/Spirits_search.cfm#srch) still has it on sale at $23.99?
Weller 12yo. Tonight I tasted the 12yo against the Antique to try and detect any similarities. The 12 yo has the better, more rounded nose. The Antique smells "hot". The Antique has some of the caramel notes from the 12yo, but the acidic tannins quickly mount an assault on my taste buds that effectively prevents any further enjoyment. This stuff tastes like a Maker's Mark and Camphor cocktail http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif The 12yo on the otherhand is smooth and refined. Makes me happy.
Well, I'll believe it when I taste it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif But you've done got me curious. I like the Antique but I'll keep an eye open for the 12 year. Maybe it'll pop up around here somewhere.
Eagle Rare 10 yr. Not the single barrel, just the regular 10 year. But nice nevertheless! I'd say this is an excellent everyday pour. Nothing fancy but pleasant in it's own right.
Wild Turkey 12yo. I am going to have to do a side-by-side with this one and KY spirit, as I can't really decide which is my favorite. Lots of rich creamy sweet vanilla and a little nuttiness tonight. Bringing a little life to my lifeless CAO L'Anniversaire Extreme cigar right now http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
Stagg, What Else? In a Woodford Reserve tumbler no less. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
With that same Woodford Reserve Tumbler, Later that same day...... Old Forester Birthday Bourbon... And it is Very Fine, Very Fine Indeed. Even Ol' George couldn't upset this apple cart! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Two superstars in one day! Very nice indeed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Rosemont Estates 1998 Cabernet Savignon. Nice full bodied red with cherry and soily earth tones. Medium finish with just a little oak on the back end. Overall a nice cabernet for under $10.
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Wild Turkey Rare Breed...an old, reliable favorite.
I started with a little ETL and have since moved on to weller 12yo. Got bunches of that "green earth" BT taste from the elmer, but sweet and smooth candy corn and molasses from the Weller. For at least tonight, Weller is king http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
WT 12 yo. I am starting to like this more and more. I am halfway through my first bottle (a trade with rwilps for a bottle of GTS). The signature WT peppery taste is subdued and the sweet fruit flavor is more pronounced tonight.
I looked at Jeff's tasting notes on this bottling. I do pick up the cherry flavored tobacco, though to me it is a subtle cherry without any tobacco. I pick up the fruit on the tongue that he mentions, but I can't separate them into individual fruits.
Jeff's got quite a way with picking out the smells and tastes. It amazes me how he and others can do this. But, as I've said before, I have no ambition to develop my senses that deeply. If what I am drinking tastes good and fits my mood, then I am a happy camper. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Good thing I have one more bottle of WT 12 yo waiting for me, picked up by my sister.
That WT12 is a pretty good one , CL. If you need any Ky Spirit with the pewter stopper , I know where a few of them are. ( Close to your sister , that is) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I think I have reached the saturation point with my better half. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif The good news, though, is that I've slowed my intake, so that my current supply is lasting much longer. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
However, today I ordered 4 bottles of GTS for a member here and some coworkers to pick up during my upcoming trip to WV. You know, I just had to round off the order to an even two cases. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif I'm hoping I can sneek the extra two bottles into the stash right along side the others without her noticing. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
Virginia Gentleman 90, The Fox.
This is a pretty good pour, but for the price, I doubt that I'll buy it again. For less money, I can get WT101, Old Forester 100, or Elijah Craig 12-yr. All of those are more interesting, to me.
Oh so we're Stagg hunting again! What a Sport! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I can understand that. If you like complexity, the Fox just doesn't have it like the other bourbons you mentioned. However, I like to have several different kinds of flavor profiles so I can match my mood and the season. I've just discovered the Fox recently and can't wait to try it in the summer. I think it will be a perfect match for hot evenings.
Yeah, I have to agree that it is not a complex bourbon by any means, but for its price and relative smoothness it still earns high marks in my book and gets my praise. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
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Well, the price here isn't that great ($20). The Fox seems to me to be sort of like the J&B of bourbons - smooth and light. Its just not what grabs me. The taste is very nice, I am by no means saying there is anything objectionable about it. It is just not assertive enough.
Yeah see, I can get it for less than $17 at times. When I don't want that assertive of a bourbon (which isn't often but certain nights call for it), this is what I usually grab...
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Van Winkle 107 10yr as I look at my bottle of Stagg with luck it will have 2 more beside it ..........mmmm life at its finest .
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There's never enough is there, Bill? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I am just lucky to have the one bottle , that in it's self is more than I ever thought even possible ....
Still doing snoopy's happy dance
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Wathen's Single Barrel. Nice toasty notes warm what is hopefully the last of the cold winter nights. Cinnamon, cloves and nutmeg however make this a bourbon perfect for fall and winter enjoyment.
Ezra Brooks 15 yr Single Barrel... A very fine bourbon especially at the $18 price I paid with shipping. Nice sweet toffee notes and what a vanilla nose I get off of it, absolutely loving it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
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May I mention a rye in a thread that resides in the General Bourbon forum? I hope so.
Hirsch (TM), Selection, Kentucky Rye Whiskey, 13 Years Old.
I started this afternoon with VWFR 13 year rye, which I once again found to be the best whiskey I’ve ever tasted. (However, I have yet to try it head-to-head with Wild Turkey 12 year old, my personal King of the Hill among bourbons.) That was reassuring because lately I’ve been disappointed with a couple of old favorites, including one from the Wild Turkey line.
The Hirsch is magnificent in its own right. The barrel influence is much stronger than in the Van Winkle, and it adds depth to the rye spice without subduing it. Where the VWFR sparkles and dances on the tongue, the Hirsh is rich and soothing, with a huge toffee/caramel finish that slowly fades to a dryness that demands another sip. (Can there be two bottlings with the title, “my favorite whiskey”?) Where the VWFR reaches up and tickles my nose, the Hirsch causes me to inhale ever more deeply, straining to inhale as much of its subtle, sweet molasses, honey, and leather as I can get.
I bought this bottle as a Christmas present to myself at a nearby wine shop that has about a dozen American whiskeys in stock. I was only there to pick up shipping cartons for a couple of gift bottles of that other spirit, but while the clerk went to the back of the store to retrieve my mailers, I had a little time to kill. What sold me on this bottle was the Hirsch name plus the deepest mahogany color I’ve ever seen in an American whiskey. (Since this is a rye, I suppose it could have some added coloring. I hope that's not the case. I'd like to believe that this is its natural color.) It was a whopping $32.99, and I was buying it on faith, but like I said, I was in the Christmas spirit. I may never be able to afford another bottle, but I’m glad I have this one. (Dang! With the glass that I just poured, the level in the bottle is below the taper already. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif )
Great review! I would like to know which distiller made this whiskey. Anyone know, or have an informed guess?
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(Can there be two bottlings with the title, “my favorite whiskey”?)
Of course! I'd be hard pressed to name a single bourbon that I could live the rest of my life with. Ok, it probably would be Stagg, but there are lots of times when change is welcome. I need the ORVW family (10, 15, rye), I need Wathens, and I need OF 100. And for nights like tonight when works just sucks and you want to (1) treat yourself and (2) not drink too much of your good stuff, then a good 1.75L like Buffalo Trace fits the bill nicely. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
On a wine and spirits store site it says the Hirsch brand name is owned by Preiss Imports of California. It says Preiss asked Van Winkle to supply the whiskey for the 13 year old Hirsch straight rye. And further, that the rye is from the same source as the Van Winkle 13 year old rye but from "different barrels". I believe henceforth Van Winkle will obtain its rye from Buffalo Trace but in the past the stock came from different sources and I think the Hirsch 13 year old bottling goes back a few years.
I have said earlier the current Van Winkle 13 year old struck me as somewhat different from the one on the market in past years (e.g. much more rye character), but this may be an impression and it is hard to say without the facts. Could it be that the current 13 year old (if indeed differently sourced than the original 13 year old) is a younger version of Sazerac rye? I don't know, all I know is these products are all top of the line, stunning in fact.
The value of the "merchant" system (Scottish term for independent bottlers selecting and selling whisky under their name) is that one gets a house flavor or approach reflecting the taste and standard of the owner. Van Winkle achieves a very high standard through its emphasis on well-aged, highest quality bourbons and ryes, they are a credit to the industry and no doubt stimulated greatly the quality segment.
That story is true Cy. I asked Julian about this at last year's Whiskies of the world expo, and he told me that (and I paraphrase) when he was done filling up his bottles, he used the remainder to fill up the Hirsch bottles.
The Hirsch rye is excellent in any event. I have difficulty finding the Van Winkle product around here, but the Hirsch is readily available.
I have a little sample bottle of Noah's Mill. I'm enjoying a wee bit of it this afternoon. Pretty nice, with quite a bit of caramel/honey flavors. Not bad.
Old Fitzgerald 1849. My somewhat luke-warm initial impression of this one has changed a bit. Tonight I am getting lots of yeasty wheat bread notes in the nose. It is somewhat medium-bodied on the palate with a medium-long finish. Lots of fruity-sweetness on the front end and a cinnamony spiciness on the back. Overall a decent pour, but I think I like the BIB best, and the price is better to boot.
Its bunko night at my house ( a dice game that the local wives play once a month) , so I'm out on the deck in the intermittent rain with a small fire going in the outdoor fire place. I finally came across Peychaud's Bitters, so tonight its Ancient Ancient Age Manhattans Up, a Pappy Van Winkle cigar (Dominican) and my favorite book to reread, The Double Helix. Life is good (But Damp) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
Where did you find the PVW Cigars? Please post you impressions in the smokes forum, I am very interested.
I have just had a drink from my second bottle of Buffalo Trace. I must admit it is much improved over the first bottle. The first bottle had a musty or earthy flavor. Frankly it tasted like dirt. This is smooth soft and sweet. Very Good indeed. We owe kudos to the Buffalo Trace people. They produce a wonderful variety of whiskies in all price ranges and with many delicious characteristics.
I've mentioned the same thing in a previous post moons ago... Me and my friend both had a similar experience with bottles purchased a while back having the 'musty' taste to them you mentioned. But any new bottle I have had has been wonderfully superb.
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Many of the bottle I get from BT have that similar earthy taste. I don't know if I would call what I have tasted "musty", but the taste is definately "down to earth" http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Maybe they have changed locations of the barrels that they use for BT and that might explain the differences that you are describing?
I still get somewhat of an 'earthy' taste (and many other wonderful tastes!) in newly purchased bottles but in a bottle purchased 2-3 years ago there was a definate 'musty' taste. I would assume it was due to a location or some extreme circumstance that contributed to the mustiness.
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When we were at Buffalo Trace in September, Ken Weber told us that they had gotten complaints from experienced drinkers of Ancient Age about the musty flavors. It seems that on a particular run they dumped only barrels from a certain house( nothing wrong with the house or the Bourbon there, I don't recall if he mentioned which one it was) only. Now they have a system in place whereby barrels from different houses are dumped to come up with the batch.
I bought my bottle at the distillery in 2001 and have enjoyed it immensely. It is one of my favorite pours. Tonight I have cracked my first bottle of Knob Creek...I updated the Tasting thread...basically, in essential agreement with Linn's nose and taste notes. However, I find it similar to EC12...am I crazy?
J W Dant distilled at Dsp113 ( now Buffalo Trace) bottled at Dsp 16 ( Stitzel Weller)
Well I've gone a little farther with this one. As far as I'm concerned it is IMHO better than Eagle Rare single barrel, and I even like it better than Weller 19. Honestly I think that if we all had a bottle of this that mileage would vary, I don't think we'd see a consensus like we did on OFBB and GTS. This is an Oldie but Goodie, inexpensive , 12.50and 14.something a 750ml and 1liter respectively. I need to get a DSP31 Dant and see how close the profile is. A good find , worth getting if you see it, don't drive a hundred miles for this one . http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
The label on this bottling says The Dant Distillery Frankfort , Ky The DSP 31 says Dant Distillery Bardstown Ky.
Two Vin Diesel movies and AAA 10 yo, EWSB 1993, Woodford Reserve, and GTS. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Of course, after all that I fell asleep during XXX despite the constant action and noise. I have a home theater system with a 12" subwoofer that shakes the dang house. And I fell asleep during all of that. Thank you, GTS. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Mike this is why my wife loves Buffalo Trace so much. She calls it "root cellar" as it reminds her of her late grandmother's root cellar and her carefree days as a child learning how to cook and can. - Linn
Okay, Bobby, I am going to try one of these (JW Dant). At least it is something I can get, locally. I don't know which DSP, though.
Searching for peanuts tonight--an OF scavenger hunt of sorts, brought on by Marvin's post that his BIB had no peanuts!! Scandalous. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
One finger pours of Prime, 1849, and BIB, side by side, in identical Riedel SMs. So it's early, already--the two finger pours will come later. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif The Prime has none of the caramel and peanuts, while both the 1849 and BIB trumpet them loudly. This bottle of BIB--the one I'm packing off to the gazebo in September--is the Cracker Jack of them all, however. It may be younger than the 1849, which has the caramel of the BIB, but the BIB has got those peanuts. I guess Marvin's just gonna have to join us at the gazebo in September! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
Tonight it's ORVW 10yr 107 ....it is the first night of my weekend the last couple of weeks have been very good and that calls for a drop of the god's drink ....no I dare not open my bottle of Stagg yet ,,,,Soon I hope
Many Thanks to the members of this board for their kindness and help in raising my love and further understanding of Bourbon .....Thank You All
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Evan Williams Single Barrel '93. Nice smooth pour with hints of fruit and tobacco. Tonight I am getting more of a vanilla taste than I got for my tasting notes. I think I'll do a comparative tasting tomorrow night with the '91.
I got three directly from Julian. You can call him and he may have some stock left. I got some more when Liquor Barn bought out the Liquor Outlet. They appeared for about $3/each in the Beaumont Liquor Barn. I bought a bunch. Julian suggests them with his family rye and I find that a nice pairing. I'll post in the Smokes section some notes. Overall, a hearty, earthy smoke. Smooth for about the first third and then gets stronger till the end with a bit of mustiness.
Makes moderate amounts of rich, heady smoke. Worth the price, but not outstanding.
Interesting.....I had my first bottle of Buffalo Trace last year. Who knows if it was from that particular barrelhouse? I didn't get any "musty" impressions from it but there were plenty of earthy, organic qualities that initially startled me. About halfway through the bottle, a little "oxidation mellowing" took effect and the bourbon seemed more rounded and sweet than at first. It went from being a "different" bourbon to a thoroughly enjoyable bourbon.
I hope these later bottles of BT start out the way that first bottle of mine finished: sweet and mellow with definite strains of green earth adding complexity.
Yeah, me too. That one is cheap and easy to find. I've hesitated in front of it several times wondering if it was any different or better than the "Ten High's" of this world. Next time I'll grab one up. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
last year when I was In toddy's store in Bardstown. He said that 'a lot of the boys at Jim Beam ' drank Old Bourbon Hollow bib, so i bought a bottle. Not one my favorites. However it is not bad and is really cheap. Has a great label too ,Anyone ever seen this stuff
Yeah Mike I have one and mine came from Toddy's also. Haven't opened it I bought it for the label.
Finished my last bottle of Evan Williams '90 tonight, boy was I sad to see it go. . . .now on to the search for a bottle of the '93.
Tom (the bourbon is dead, long live the bourbon!!) C
I just had a pour from my new bottle of Black Maple Hill 16 y.o. "limited edition". Man, is it good! Dark red color and a rich, flavorful taste.
Um...is it just me, or does anybody else think it's time to start another thread for this topic? Gittin' a bit looooong, dontcha' think? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif
Maybe, "What are you drinking now? Volume III" or "WAYDN, the third season" http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Oh come on guys, just a Little longer until
What Are You Drinking This Moment?: The New Class!
Quityurbitchin'! I'm drinkin' Blanton's. Just click on the last page. Quick and easy. No need to load up the whole thread. How many thread views between the original and the second coming? 10 grand? Great thread! Keep it coming. Now is anyone sober enough to pour??? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif - Linn
Old Fitzgerald 1849.... and loving it!
Today I decided to go back to my JD old-fashioned glass, and I swear that this bourbon tastes twice as good as the last time I drank it. Heck, I even think it has some leftover Cracker Jacks and peanuts from the run that produced Chuck's bottle of OF BIB.
There's nothing fancy in this 1849, but is surely does taste good.
I guess I may have to make good on my long-ago promise to do some head-to-head testing with different glassware. Could it be that there's magic in my JD glasses and not in my more recent purchases?
I think I'll try to take a picture of the JD glass, before all of the gold wears away.
Wild Turkey 101 from my Wild Turkey embossed shotglass. (I was planning to take a picture of it for you, but the camera is unavailable right now.)
I seem to be going through some sort of metamorphosis in regard to my taste for Wild Turkey products. I still find the 101 very appealing to the nose and the front of the palate, but the back of the palate and the finish is rougher and more bitter than I recalled. (Have I spoiled myself by drinking other bourbons with less oomph? Am I just now coming to my senses? Is anyone even reading this drivel?)
Let's see, over the past few days I've drunk George T. Stagg, Rare Breed, Old Fitz 1849, and Black Bush. The GTS and the RB certainly don't lack oomph, although the OF 1849 and the Irish possibly do.
Has anyone else suddenly discovered that an old favorite is not so favored any more?
Dave "Thinking about our troops, but still enjoying life" Morefield
When I first got into bourbon a few years back, my first 'good' bourbon purchase was a bottle of Makers Mark. Before that I had really only had Jim Beam White and Jack Daniels. Then when I had Makers Mark, I was taken. That was what got me into the whole bourbon thing, and the craze I am now into! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
For quite some time after that I would always have the occasional pour of Makers, but now I must admit it's been a very long time since my last pour of it. After discovering so many more complex bourbons, Makers just doesn't cut it any more. Maybe though, I should go back and have a pour tonight since I owe it to makers for getting me involved in the best spirit out there! I think you are right in 2 areas Dave... The The GTS and the RB certainly don't lack oomph. It's probably such great bourbons as these that have spoiled us! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif And secondly, you mentioned something about some irish stuff... That too could be one big problem in itself. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
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Has anyone else suddenly discovered that an old favorite is not so favored any more?
Sometimes I go through phases when an old favorite doesn't have the same appeal. Heck, about a year ago, after teetotaling for a few months, ORVW FRR didn't taste good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif Fortunately, that phase passed quickly.
I also find that I have cycles. Over the last few months, I've been drinking more complex and/or full flavored bourbons (e.g., WT, BT, GTS), but lately I have found myself migrating to smoother, velvety medium body bourbons (Wathens, Woodford Reserve, ETL SB). Too bad that I am out of Cracker Jack right now. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif In the states I frequently travel, I only see that in KY.
Old Forester Birthday Bourbon. It has been way too long since I have enjoyed a pour of this great stuff. Smooth and creamy vanilla/rasin flavor tonight. Supplies are dwindling, Danger Will Robinson, Danger http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
Wasn't it Danger, Danger! Danger, Will Robinson! ? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
Looks like an Internet search is in the cards. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
I goofed (http://archiv.scifi.sk/LostinSpace/audio/goofed.wav)
I searched and found Danger! Danger! Will Robinson! and Danger, Will Robinson! and, of course, Jeff's Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!, but I could not find "Danger! Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" I guess I will have to turn in my "Lost in Space" membership card.
For Your Enjoyment, Jeff (http://www.dennisglass.com/Wavs/danger.wav)
Italian sausage/mozzella/pepers for dinner tonight. That means bring out a SMMMMOOOOOOTHHHHHHH, sweet, candy bourbon. For dinner, it was the last of my Rare Breed bottle. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye.
Need I say more?
No, but I can't resist the temptation. I hadn't planned to have a drink this afternoon, but while doing a search on chill-filtering, I happened to encounter a mention of an unfiltered version of this fine bottling. That was enough to cause my taste buds to tingle, so I broke down and poured just a taste.
And what a taste it is! Even so, it's the nose that I love the most about this wonderful whiskey. It's almost (I say almost) a shame to drink it. It's tempting to try to keep sniffing until it has all evaporated.
As my taste for other whiskies waxes and wanes, Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye is my Old Dependable.
My son will be studying in Europe next year. Dare I ask him to take the time to look for the unfiltered bottling of this once-in-a-lifetime whiskey?
Virginia Gentleman, AKA the 'Fox'. Been a while since I pulled this one out of the cabinet. Another nice medium-bodied "refreshing" bourbon. I think I could drink this one to cool down after a 5K...Hmmm. I think the 'Fox' will get even better as the weather gets warmer.
Yes! You have that right Jeff! I've been waiting for your positive post on the 'Fox'. It's good and good for you. Now tell me I'm wrong. - Linn - Much better than Maker's Mark it is!
Woodford Reserve. I am getting a little more sweetness tonight than I did for the shootout, but still slightly earthy and medicinal. And I just can't get past the fact that I can have OF100 for half the price. They say it's the same whiskey, but I'm not convinced http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif
ORVW 10 yo. Damn, this is good stuff. For the price, it just may be the best bourbon going. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
Hey, BobbyC - if I had to pick only one bourbon that I could have for the rest of my life, I think this one may give GTS some competition due to GTS having such a high proof. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
Kentucky Spirit. I just had dinner, and now I'm kicking back with a decent sized pour. Life is good...and this is GOOD bourbon!
The 107 proof? It's still one of my favorites. (I've never tried the 90 proof.) I may have gone a little overboard in the tasting I did several months back, but not by much.
The 10 YO 107 proof is indeed an excellent bourbon, and ranks up there as one of my favorites. I recently got a bottle of the 15 YO, which I haven't opened yet, but I expect that it will be super also!
I have not had the pleasure of sampling the 15yo. Some have said that they prefer the 10 to the 15, but I'm not sure how much the price is factoring in on their opinion. Hell, if you remove price as a factor, we'd all be drinking the 23yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Let us know what you think Bob.
From my experience with the 10 and 15 yr ORVW, it's like you said Jeff when you factor in the $ factor. You can tell that the 15 year is definately more refined, but after looking at the price difference the 10 year is a superb bourbon for the price. I've got one of each open, but the 15 is still the original from 2 years ago... The 10 year is probably my 3rd by now. I would still suggest though biting that bullet and grabbing a 15, you will not be disappointed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif Ok Linn, you got me the 20 is the best! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif But I stand by what I said when evaluating the 10 year 107 proof and 15 year...
--> Mark R.
Of all the Van Winkel bottlings, I much perfer the 20 year old. Very gracefully aging barrels indeed. I think the 15 year old actually tastes 'older', but the 20 is the one. Make no mistake. Drink 20. - Linn
The 20yo is by far one of the best bourbons I have tasted. I have yet to purchase my first bottle, but I have a drink of it every time I am at Desha's.
Evan Williams Single Barrel 1992, along with a country ham sandwich. (I wish I knew which maker's ham this is. Unfortunately, I lost my ham records in the computer crash. I think this one came from North Carolina or Georgia.)
I find that EWSB has a crisp, dry edge that is less than my ideal when drunk alone. However, it is the first bourbon that I have drunk along with food that actually tastes good in combination.
I don't mean to say that it's a bad bourbon on its own; it's just that it really seems to shine in combination with zesty food. I suppose there's an analogy to be made with wines, which range from the very dry, before-dinner style, through various degrees of light/heavy and sweet/dry that go with various food dishes, from shellfish to mutton, all the way to pure dessert wines.
Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve. Thought I would give this one another try tonight, seeing as I seem to be the only one who thinks this bourbon is out of place with the other WT offerings. Not much has changed in my assesment. Good overall bourbon, but slightly harsh and acidic. I am getting some nice leather and vanilla notes tonight, not unlike WT101. A little bit of cinnamon and sugar on the back side with a medium-long finish that is just a tad hot. Leaves a kind of "airy" tannic feeling on the top of the back of my throat. Nice bourbon, but for the price I would pick up the 101 and you won't miss a beat.
ORVW Woodside Partner's Reserve. Wonderful bourbon. See my comments in the Tasting Notes forum.
Began the evening with Ezra Brooks Single Barrel, but after a quick mention of A.H. Hrisch 16 with another member, finishing the night with a quick pour seems appropriate.
Yeah, all the talk of great bourbon tonight made me finish things off with a glass of KY Spirit. Now this is what all bourbon attemps to be, but most fall well short http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
Just finished my first bottle of Evan Williams SB '92. I know it is popular among you guys, but this was not a good experience for me. Way too heavy on the fruit esp. oranges and had something in the finish that reminded me slightly of Jameson Irish whiskey - not a good thing in my eyes! Interesting, but not my bag in the slightest. First Bourbon ever that I have disliked this strongly and that includes Ten High and Rebell Yell. Guess you can't knock a coconut down every time.
Oh well, back to the Makers.
It is the opinion of some here that the '92 vintage is maybe the weakest so far. If you get the chance and haven't been burned too bad, pick up the '93 or the '91 vintage if you can find it. Or just stick with your Maker's, might as well drink what you like http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
I wish I'd found this forum a little sooner. A while back, I had the choice between the '92 and '93, and I grabbed the '92 thinking that I would drink in chronological order. Maybe I was overly influenced by the little sticker on the '92 that said, "Selected and bottled for the citizens of Virginia." Now I don't feel as special.
As for right now, I'm enjoying a little Jim Beam Black with ice.
Hi Tommy! I'm not all that far away from you - just one hundred miles west on I-64. Welcome to Bourbonia! Good to see you here. - Linn
Thanks Linn--glad to be here! Three cheers for the Old Dominion!
Well, whatever this stuff is, it's not bad. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
I've never drunk it before; let me check the label, so I get this right. It says "A.H. Hirsch Reserve" and "16 years old", and below where it says "Straight Bourbon Whiskey" is the note "Pot-Stilled Sour Mash". At the bottom it says "Bottled by Hirsch Distillers Lawrenceburg, Kentucky". On the back is a cheaply made, stick-on label that says "Distributed by Preiss Imports, Ramona, CA.
I bought this bottle as part of a six-bottle order from Sam's, back in January (days before their February sale -- I'll know better next year). I decided to open it today only because I'm feeling especially mortal right now, probably due to a combination of things -- the war, my son's recent engagement (I guess he really is an independent adult now), the rapidly approaching end of my sixth decade (which I never expected to survive), and a general sense of ennui.
I suppose I'll have to do a side-by-side with my bottle of the 20 year-old one of these days. All I can say about the 16 year-old right now is that it tastes wonderful, but not at all the way I expect bourbon to taste. If some technologically advanced race were to land on Earth and offer us a sample of their favorite alcoholic drink for toasting, I would expect it to taste like this. It makes some of my recent favorites taste crude and harsh by comparison.
This deservedly famous bourbon is so seamlessly delicious that I have to admire (or perhaps even suspect) anyone who can dissect the flavor into its components.
Oh, and one more thing -- as is my custom, I poured a glass of water at the same time I poured the Hirsch, and I just realized that I've emptied the glass of bourbon without even touching the water. The finish is too good to finish.
Dave "I think I'll have another" Morefield
Exactly what I began drinking just about an hour ago... I cannot say how much I love Hirsch 16. Isn't that finish just wonderful! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Yes and the other recent comments on Hirsch 16 are very valuable. We must remember: Hirsch, 16 or 20 years old, represents the rare surviving stocks of Michter's, a Pennsylvania distillery whose roots went back to Revolutionary times (making originally straight rye whiskey). Michter's sadly closed in the early 1980's. It was, odd as it may sound, before its time, or before its most recent time. Had it endured it would deserve the iconic status of Jack Daniels and in fact more so (from the point of both pedigree and, not least, taste). The distinctive taste must be put down to the unique Michter's mash bill (and aging in the colder Penn climate): just 50% corn, a big 38% rye grist (which blends in most smoothly at 16 and 20 years) and the rest barley malt. A very fine American whiskey representing a style and name almost lost forever except for those lucky to have some Hirsch in their stash. For historical background on Michter's, Michael Jackson's "World Guide To Whiskey" (1988) is essential reading..
Started tonight with a couple of pours of KY Spirit to go with my newfound Arturo Fuente Hemingway Signatures. Now I am drinking a glass of Rare Breed to try and calm down a bit from a nailbiter of a game. It wasn't pretty, but it was still a win!
Wathen's single barrel, straight. I didn't originally care much for this whiskey, but I am enjoying it more and more every time I try it.
Rare Breed. Straight.
Still my all-time favorite. To me, the perfect bourbon flavor, plus it is big and bold. My version of bourbonic bliss.
No GTS is available for me, so I can't personally compare. But, I can always get RB and I'm 100% satisfied with it.
Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve, from an oddly shaped WT Rare Breed rocks glass that was part of a boxed, special promotion (RB plus two glasses) around Christmas time.
RR has regained the candied orange-peel taste that eluded me the last few times I drank it. However, the finish is still rougher and drier than I remember from when I first tried it. Maybe the Hirsch 16 has spoiled me forever in regard to finish.
BTW, Moderators, would you consider starting a new continuation of this thread for the second quarter of 2003? (I still haven't sprung for DSL, and this thead is getting a mite slow to load.)
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from an oddly shaped WT Rare Breed rocks glass that was part of a boxed, special promotion (RB plus two glasses) around Christmas time
Those glasses have become my favorite glasses to drink with. I love the heaviness and the tappered top. Unfortunatly one of my two broke in a dishwashing mishap and now I only have one http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif . And of course those gift-sets aren't available now. I sure hope I will see them again next year.
Weller 12yo. Just love this stuff. Did it really only cost $14.99? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif I think I will finally pick up a bottle of the Centennial next weekend http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
I was recently underwhelmed by my bottle of Weller 12, which I had let a salesman talk me into buying.
However, at about that time I suddenly couldn't find anything to like in Russell's Reserve after I had raved about it hereabouts for months.
Recently I have regained at least some of my fondness for RR; so maybe it's time to give the Weller 12 another shot. As you say, the price is certainly appealling.
If I ever accidentally break one of mine, what say we each bet our one remaining glass on a coin toss? No sense in having two orphan glasses, eh? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
On a serious note, I have worried that on a humid day the tapered shape combined with a little condensation would make the glass slippery and hard to hold. It's hardly an issue for me because I drink neat 90% of the time, but I assume it was intended to be a rocks glass. Have you ever had any mishaps or near-misses?
Your comment about the heaviness gave me a wild idea. How hard would it be to turn the bottom three inches of an Eagle Rare bottle (also heavily weighted) into a rocks glass? Would the diameter be too large? Would the side be too thick?
I have a bottle of Wathen's. No mention of 12 years old on it. I did not think a great deal of it. Do you know where he gets his stock from?
Jefferson's Reserve 15yo bourbon. I must admit that I am getting more enjoyment tonight out of this one than I have in a while. Something strange is happening though. Tonight I am picking up a subtle earthyness that until now I have only atributed to BT boubons. Hmm.
Tonight I had some Elija Craig 12 year old for the first time. It was delicious! The weird lip makes swigging right from the bottle pretty hard though, so I had to be civilized and use a sort of snifter(?) glass.
I mentioned Weller, not Wathen's, in the post to which you replied.
Did you mistype?
In contrast to the Weller 12 the one bottle of Wathen's I've had was very enjoyable. I can't tell you where the stock for either comes from.
Well I FINALLY got to crack the seal on my very own bottle of Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit last night. . . .
Congratulations! I hope that in due course you tell us your perceptions of it.
In the meantime, wouldn't it be marvelous to drink a KS toast to the inauguration of the 2Q2003 iteration of the "What are you drinking this moment?" thread? Hint, hint... (The current thread takes over a minute and a half to load on my modem connection, which never comes close to the claimed speed.)
Hope you enjoy it Tom, I sure do. BTW, I expect a glowing report from this bottle. No more of that "not the best bourbon in the world" Stagg stuff http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
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