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matthew0715
03-20-2010, 22:49
3 whiskies I passed up because 1) I spent too much already, and 2) I needed to check back here to see if they are worth it.

Henry McKenna 10 year old BIB, $29. This just showed up here in 2 different stores. Now I see that as of a few years ago, some of you rated it the best product from Heaven Hill. This juice is from DSP-KY-31 (saying that on the label is part of the regs for Bonded) and barreled 3-31-99 (after the fire Chuck recently wrote about re: Evan Williams). Anyone tried the new stuff yet?

OWA 7/107, $22 - saw 2 bottles that still had the "7 summers old" label. I know it's now NAS, but I thought I read here that the last of the 7 year old was not very good. Need to do more research.

George Dickel Cascade Hollow, 3 years old, $19 - price seems kinda high for something that's a step below No.'s 8 & 12 (a different store has No. 12 for $20). Wasn't Dickel's distillery shut down for a few years? Is this just excess or sub-par stuff from when the distillery re-opened?
Ooops, found most of the info on Chuck's blog: http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2007/12/whats-really-going-on-with-george.html

Thanks for all your wonderful information.

-Matt

independant
03-21-2010, 12:46
Henry McKenna 10 year old BIB, $29. This just showed up here in 2 different stores. Now I see that as of a few years ago, some of you rated it the best product from Heaven Hill. This juice is from DSP-KY-31 (saying that on the label is part of the regs for Bonded) and barreled 3-31-99 (after the fire Chuck recently wrote about re: Evan Williams). Anyone tried the new stuff yet?


I had a bought a bottle of this a while back. It is not a bad bourbon. Worth the money? I thought so. My bottle was barrel #494, barreled on 2/5/99

As for the label stating DSP-31 with a date after the fire at HH. That is because they were given a grace period and were able to use up the existing labels they had. The HM SB-BIB is not something they make a run of all the time. So they must have had a ton of labels and don't make runs very often if they are still using the old labels.

hope this helps and I love the avatar.

sailor22
03-25-2010, 10:37
3 bottles of Sazerac 18 bottled in '06 - sitting lonely and dusty on a shelf. I have a few bottles of Saz BTAC and I'm saving pennies for something just now. So they escaped my clutches.

matthew0715
04-12-2010, 13:08
Bump. I just read the "Most you overpaid" thread so I thought I should mention some 2009 BTAC I saw this weekend. I cannot afford it (still unemployed) but as a public service, you can still get (in Central New Jersey):

ER17 - $69.99
Handy - $79.99
W.L. Weller - $89.99 (3 bottles on the shelf)

also, FYI, I saw A.H. Hirsch 16 (gold foil) a couple of weeks ago, for the first time in several years. The price: $224.99 (greed or just supply & demand?).

-Matt

ggilbertva
04-13-2010, 08:42
3 bottles of Sazerac 18 bottled in '06 - sitting lonely and dusty on a shelf. I have a few bottles of Saz BTAC and I'm saving pennies for something just now. So they escaped my clutches.

Stephen - Good grief man....go to the blood bank, sell your old crap on Ebay....do something and go get at least one of those bottles. Shame on you!

Vosgar
04-13-2010, 20:37
Today I passed up a 1994 EWSB for the second time. I have the 1999 and 2000 and while they're OK, neither one is anything special. I did some research on SB after first noticing the '94 last week and found a number of people saying it was their favorite vintage, so it was tugging at me again.

Why did I leave it? $55 is why. The store won't budge on the price and I can't see paying this much for it.

Gary

independant
04-14-2010, 01:07
Today I passed up a 1994 EWSB for the second time. I have the 1999 and 2000 and while they're OK, neither one is anything special. I did some research on SB after first noticing the '94 last week and found a number of people saying it was their favorite vintage, so it was tugging at me again.

Why did I leave it? $55 is why. The store won't budge on the price and I can't see paying this much for it.

Gary

For 55.00 I would have walked away as well.

p_elliott
04-14-2010, 09:28
Today I passed up a 1994 EWSB for the second time. I have the 1999 and 2000 and while they're OK, neither one is anything special. I did some research on SB after first noticing the '94 last week and found a number of people saying it was their favorite vintage, so it was tugging at me again.

Why did I leave it? $55 is why. The store won't budge on the price and I can't see paying this much for it.

Gary

I would'nt have walked I would have told the store owner that I wouldn't ever be back. That's not just just too much that's over double the price. I won't do business with people like that.

jburlowski
04-16-2010, 14:25
Saw the EarlyTimes 150th anniversry 375ml reease for the first time. Since it is KY whisky and not KSBW, I walked on.

I'll wait for the release of ET straight bourbon that is coming in the Fall.

tigerlam92
04-17-2010, 11:11
Bump. I just read the "Most you overpaid" thread so I thought I should mention some 2009 BTAC I saw this weekend. I cannot afford it (still unemployed) but as a public service, you can still get (in Central New Jersey):

ER17 - $69.99
Handy - $79.99
W.L. Weller - $89.99 (3 bottles on the shelf)

also, FYI, I saw A.H. Hirsch 16 (gold foil) a couple of weeks ago, for the first time in several years. The price: $224.99 (greed or just supply & demand?).

-Matt

I would have jump all over the WLW, :). The prices you showed is a little higher but it's all gone over in this area.

For the AH Hirsch 16, that would be both since supply and demand results in higher prices because of the greed in people seeing a chance to profit more. At the same time, the store is also paying a great deal more from the distributors. It's a cascading of greed and profiting along the chain that results in higher prices to respond to an illusion of high demand only to the very low supply. It's $269 or so here.

CorvallisCracker
04-30-2010, 14:45
In the winter version of this thread, Christian posted:



Wasn't today, but the other day I had to pass on entire rows of Black Maple Hill 11, 14 and 16 year olds. I would love to have them because I've drank bottles of all three and was never disappointed, but for the prices they wanted they'll continue to sit, likely for a few more years!


I was over there today, and somebody picked up all seven bottles of the 16yo, at the $94.95 price.

Virus_Of_Life
05-09-2010, 12:19
I was over there today, and somebody picked up all seven bottles of the 16yo, at the $94.95 price.

I bought a couple of each before I left town just to have them in the bunker, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lurker was watching them and cleared it after noticing a few had sold. Just a thought, wouldn't be the first time I'd seen that happen.

jburlowski
05-16-2010, 05:36
Looked at the new Sazerac-issued Caribou Crossing SB Canadian. Nice packaging but I let it be until I read more reviews from the folks here.

Skunk
05-16-2010, 05:47
I passed up a couple BTAC ER from Fall 2001. Maybe if it was still at 2001 prices...

ErichPryde
05-16-2010, 13:45
Passed up EWSB's from 1993 and 1994 (30 apiece). I also passed up two 750's of Evan Williams 7 year old (in boxes!) at 18.99 apiece. I might go back for those the next time I'm nearly to New Mexico.

nblair
05-17-2010, 20:34
I passed up a couple BTAC ER from Fall 2001. Maybe if it was still at 2001 prices...

Local or were you out of town?

Skunk
05-18-2010, 05:15
They were in Indy.

Russellc
06-02-2010, 13:59
Passed on 25 year presentation Van winkle, 23 year Van Winkle, Weller AC, but did not pass on 20 yr Family Reserve, Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year,
Eagle Rare 17 year, Van Winkle Lot B, and 12 year Weller. Those came home!

Russellc

hectic1
06-02-2010, 14:30
Passed on a bunch in MN...06 WSR Liters for $15.99, WTRB 99 for $26.99, Bookers for $34.95, OGD 114 for $18.99, ER17 06, 07, 09 for $58.42, and a EWSB 1990 for $25.49...at least I wrote down where they are should I decide I want them at a later date!

Virus_Of_Life
06-02-2010, 16:09
Passed on a bunch in MN...06 WSR Liters for $15.99, WTRB 99 for $26.99, Bookers for $34.95, OGD 114 for $18.99, ER17 06, 07, 09 for $58.42, and a EWSB 1990 for $25.49...at least I wrote down where they are should I decide I want them at a later date!

Or you could kindly pass me a PM where to get the 06 and 07 ER17s. :grin: Pretty Please?

DeanSheen
06-02-2010, 18:43
Passed on 25 year presentation Van winkle, 23 year Van Winkle, Weller AC, but did not pass on 20 yr Family Reserve, Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year,
Eagle Rare 17 year, Van Winkle Lot B, and 12 year Weller. Those came home!

Russellc

Did you mean Weller BTAC? Because if so i'm tearin up over here.

WsmataU
06-02-2010, 19:02
Passed on 25 year presentation Van winkle, 23 year Van Winkle, Weller AC, but did not pass on 20 yr Family Reserve, Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year,
Eagle Rare 17 year, Van Winkle Lot B, and 12 year Weller. Those came home!

Russellc


Gott ask... where did this happen?

OscarV
06-02-2010, 19:02
Passed on 25 year presentation Van winkle



Not familiar with the 25yo, any chance you could score it for a fellow SB.com'er?

p_elliott
06-03-2010, 09:33
Passed on a bunch in MN...06 WSR Liters for $15.99, WTRB 99 for $26.99, Bookers for $34.95, OGD 114 for $18.99, ER17 06, 07, 09 for $58.42, and a EWSB 1990 for $25.49...at least I wrote down where they are should I decide I want them at a later date!

Bob have you lost your mind?

funknik
06-03-2010, 12:36
Passed on a bunch in MN...06 WSR Liters for $15.99, WTRB 99 for $26.99, Bookers for $34.95, OGD 114 for $18.99, ER17 06, 07, 09 for $58.42, and a EWSB 1990 for $25.49...at least I wrote down where they are should I decide I want them at a later date!
I definitely would not have left that Rare Breed . . . ouch . . . that one'll sting later.

ErichPryde
06-03-2010, 15:55
I definitely would not have left that Rare Breed . . . ouch . . . that one'll sting later.

Is the RB99 that spectacular? I know where some is for about the same price Bob spotted it for.

funknik
06-03-2010, 16:51
Is the RB99 that spectacular? I know where some is for about the same price Bob spotted it for.
I don't know, but RB is $40 here for the current stuff and the '96 I have is primo.

Special Reserve
06-03-2010, 17:32
A gold foil A. H. Hirsch for $159 and an OCPR (in the gin bottle) for $28.

I almost bought the OCPR just for comparison to the slope shouldered bottle.

ErichPryde
06-03-2010, 21:53
A gold foil A. H. Hirsch for $159 and an OCPR (in the gin bottle) for $28.

I almost bought the OCPR just for comparison to the slope shouldered bottle.

hilarious. I saw two hirsch foils at that price two days ago at a BevMo.

Special Reserve
06-04-2010, 05:15
I bought an A. H. Hirsch a couple of years ago for $88.

T Comp
06-04-2010, 06:57
I don't know, but RB is $40 here for the current stuff and the '96 I have is primo.

I treasure the few pours left in my 93 RB. It is up on the top shelf of bourbons I've had, so a 96 or 99 would be a must buy too. Passed up a 2004 Wathen's today at $32.

Dramiel McHinson
06-04-2010, 18:29
The Prichard's Malt Whiskey (correct spelling) was in the Base Shopette for $41. Their latest batch of double barreled whiskey was also out for the same amount. I thought long and hard about it but would like to hear from someone that has tried it before I fork over the cash.

ErichPryde
06-04-2010, 18:34
The Prichard's Malt Whiskey (correct spelling) was in the Base Shopette for $41. Their latest batch of double barreled whiskey was also out for the same amount. I thought long and hard about it but would like to hear from someone that has tried it before I fork over the cash.

the double-barreled is decent stuff. Very drinkable and even somewhat enjoyable whiskey, no off notes, but nothing that really leaps out at me, either. 40 dollars isn't too bad if you want to try it, when I used to see it in Kansas it was always 50-60.

Virus_Of_Life
06-08-2010, 13:40
Passed on a couple of Parker's 27 year for $169.99, best price I'd seen yet so I did a double take, but still can't afford that right now.

Special Reserve
06-08-2010, 19:02
Passed on a couple of Parker's 27 year for $169.99, best price I'd seen yet so I did a double take, but still can't afford that right now.

I say a Parker 27 in a store yesterday. At $212 I let is sit.

The Parker 122.6 from the previous year is wonderful bourbon even at $90/bottle. I'd have a much harder time letting those sit.

Rutter
06-15-2010, 07:52
Passed on a Jim Beam Distillers series 7 year today, the first time i've seen this available over here but they seemed to have loads in stock so decided i would read a few reviews before splashing the cash, doesn't seem too well received on here?

hectic1
06-15-2010, 19:09
Passed up 3 OCPR BHC Squatters, a Pewter Top WTKS, and 3 Smooth Brown Top WTKS...:(

p_elliott
06-16-2010, 09:00
Passed up 3 OCPR BHC Squatters, a Pewter Top WTKS, and 3 Smooth Brown Top WTKS...:(


Why ??????????????

hectic1
06-17-2010, 18:19
Passed up 6 OFBB 07's, 3 ERSB's at $21.99, 3 WTKS Brown Tops, and a WTRB 99.

birdman1099
06-17-2010, 19:41
Passed up 6 OFBB 07's, 3 ERSB's at $21.99, 3 WTKS Brown Tops, and a WTRB 99.


:bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: I'd never be able to leave behind a 2007 BB:bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:

CorvallisCracker
06-18-2010, 08:47
:bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: I'd never be able to leave behind a 2007 BB:bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:

Hell, I would have bought all of them. :rolleyes:

Virus_Of_Life
06-18-2010, 10:16
Passed up 6 OFBB 07's, 3 ERSB's at $21.99, 3 WTKS Brown Tops, and a WTRB 99.

You in Minneapolis again?

hectic1
06-18-2010, 12:36
You in Minneapolis again? Nope...I think I've pretty much hit all of Minneapolis/St Paul area...don't think I'll be hunting there anymore. ;)

DeanSheen
06-18-2010, 22:01
Hell, I would have bought all of them. :rolleyes:

Funny how this works. I have a full bottle in the bunker and one with two pours out of it that I am ready to leave behind. Not into it but I seem to have a general aversion to HH product.

fishnbowljoe
06-20-2010, 11:41
Was out and about yesterday. Passed up a few.

Pappy 20
WT Tradition
PHC Golden Anniversary
Jim Beam Distillers Masterpiece
Caribou Crossing

Plus a few others. Joe

CorvallisCracker
06-20-2010, 11:48
A JRPS 17, despite the fact that my first bottle of that is nearly empty.

There are several stores in Portland (where I was yesterday) that seem to have a good supply of it, so I think there will still be some around when I want another.

JamesW
06-20-2010, 19:55
WTAS $85, Ritt 25 yrs $150, PH 129 $85, PH 27yr $160. I really want these but the price tag is too high. I might go back for the WTAS.

ErichPryde
06-20-2010, 22:49
WTAS $85, Ritt 25 yrs $150, PH 129 $85, PH 27yr $160. I really want these but the price tag is too high. I might go back for the WTAS.

If you're going to go back for anything you should go back for the Parker's cask strength!!!! It's 110 around here. cheapest I've seen it for was 67, and I'm not sure quite what that store was thinkin'.

JamesW
06-21-2010, 06:41
If you're going to go back for anything you should go back for the Parker's cask strength!!!! It's 110 around here. cheapest I've seen it for was 67, and I'm not sure quite what that store was thinkin'.

I've had a bottle of the PH 122.6 and it was fantastic (paid $90). However I've heard the PH 129 isn't quite up to snuff. Do you disagree?

p_elliott
06-21-2010, 07:51
WTAS $85, Ritt 25 yrs $150, PH 129 $85, PH 27yr $160. I really want these but the price tag is too high. I might go back for the WTAS.


Those are good prices on the PHC.

IowaJeff
06-21-2010, 09:40
I passed up PVW 20 for $85 and PVW 12 for $45. The PVW 23 was $200, but that's out of my range so I don't know if that counts as 'passing up.' I'm regretting not getting the 20, it was a weekend deal so it will be back to a little over $100 if I go back.

sgtgto
06-21-2010, 14:44
I passed on some JD silver select for 60$ in SeaTac, and 41 euro in AMS.

ErichPryde
06-21-2010, 19:50
I've had a bottle of the PH 122.6 and it was fantastic (paid $90). However I've heard the PH 129 isn't quite up to snuff. Do you disagree?

I strongly disagree. People who say that they prefer the 122.6 over the 129 aren't saying that the 129 isn't up to snuff. I think most of them are saying that they find the 122.6 slightly more drinkable because it is smoother and "easier." It's like saying the 2007 WLW is better than the 2008. You're going to get a lot of disagreement, and no one is wrong- 07 is awesome for easy of consumption and 08 is awesome for the (perhaps) slightly more complex flavors but neither one is bad.

And that's not exactly it, either. I've tried both and wouldn't pick between the two but would sure as hell buy either for the price with no second thought.

matthew0715
06-21-2010, 21:25
I passed up a WTKS even though it was a reasonable $47 because when I picked the bottle up off the shelf, I saw a surprisingly large quantity of white sediment moving around at the bottom. Can someone explain this? I checked another thread here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13053&highlight=sediment) about floaties, but these were sinkers.

If the sediment was black like in Stagg, that would seem normal since it's unfiltered. But I know from another recent discussion here that all WT is filtered (except for the new RB). So is white sediment just naturally occurring minerals in the limestone water settling out? This happens to me at home if I let a large glass of tap water sit still for a few hours or overnight. Or is this a sign of possible cork taint or other cork problems?

I know, I should have written down all the barrel info on this. All I know is the top is NOT pewter, it's dark brown with the embossed turkey image.

ErichPryde
06-21-2010, 21:58
I passed up a WTKS even though it was a reasonable $47 because when I picked the bottle up off the shelf, I saw a surprisingly large quantity of white sediment moving around at the bottom. Can someone explain this? I checked another thread here (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13053&highlight=sediment) about floaties, but these were sinkers.

If the sediment was black like in Stagg, that would seem normal since it's unfiltered. But I know from another recent discussion here that all WT is filtered (except for the new RB). So is white sediment just naturally occurring minerals in the limestone water settling out? This happens to me at home if I let a large glass of tap water sit still for a few hours or overnight. Or is this a sign of possible cork taint or other cork problems?

I know, I should have written down all the barrel info on this. All I know is the top is NOT pewter, it's dark brown with the embossed turkey image.



You'll probably see that a lot in WTKS, it's something akin to sugar. I've seen it in older bottles (sitting 20+ years) in which some evap has occured. perhaps as the alcohol and water escape, some of the "sugars" are able to escape solution and sink to the bottom.

Whatever the case, I seem to see this often with WTKS even if there hasn't been noticeable evap, and I haven't really been disappointed with a bottle with white/clear sinkers. They did make me nervous at first too, though!

With sinkers, be concerned if it's brown... or it looks like super fine tan sediment (even finer than sand). those WTKS are probably good.

JamesW
06-21-2010, 22:12
I strongly disagree. People who say that they prefer the 122.6 over the 129 aren't saying that the 129 isn't up to snuff. I think most of them are saying that they find the 122.6 slightly more drinkable because it is smoother and "easier." It's like saying the 2007 WLW is better than the 2008. You're going to get a lot of disagreement, and no one is wrong- 07 is awesome for easy of consumption and 08 is awesome for the (perhaps) slightly more complex flavors but neither one is bad.

And that's not exactly it, either. I've tried both and wouldn't pick between the two but would sure as hell buy either for the price with no second thought.

Thanks for the heads up. Perhaps on my next trip out there I'll get it!

SMOWK
06-22-2010, 15:45
I strongly disagree. People who say that they prefer the 122.6 over the 129 aren't saying that the 129 isn't up to snuff. I think most of them are saying that they find the 122.6 slightly more drinkable because it is smoother and "easier." It's like saying the 2007 WLW is better than the 2008. You're going to get a lot of disagreement, and no one is wrong- 07 is awesome for easy of consumption and 08 is awesome for the (perhaps) slightly more complex flavors but neither one is bad.

And that's not exactly it, either. I've tried both and wouldn't pick between the two but would sure as hell buy either for the price with no second thought.

I've got a few of the 127.4. And they go for $61 at a store I frequent. Are you saying I should go there and buy the rest? I will god damn it I will!!!

ErichPryde
06-22-2010, 16:13
I've got a few of the 127.4. And they go for $61 at a store I frequent. Are you saying I should go there and buy the rest? I will god damn it I will!!!

61 for a 127.4?????? :bigeyes:

Special Reserve
06-22-2010, 19:07
I haven't had the 127.4 but if it is close to the 122.6, I say hell yes!

foxflyer5
06-22-2010, 20:15
i passed up an Old Overholt Rye. not really a big deal, but i havent had it before and i was curious. i let it go since it was only 8 bones, so i didnt figure i was missing much. plus the proprietor said that have it on hand all the time, so i figure i can go back and pick it up when im in the mood for a rye.

sailor22
06-23-2010, 07:48
People who say that they prefer the 122.6 over the 129 aren't saying that the 129 isn't up to snuff. I think most of them are saying that they find the 122.6 slightly more drinkable because it is smoother and "easier." It's like saying the 2007 WLW is better than the 2008. You're going to get a lot of disagreement, and no one is wrong- 07 is awesome for easy of consumption and 08 is awesome for the (perhaps) slightly more complex flavors but neither one is bad.

If you add water to bring the proof to about 105 to all three I expect they would be very similar.

Anyone have firsthand experience?

ThomasH
06-23-2010, 16:09
I passed up some EWSB 97' and OWA 7/107 in Va!

Thomas

SMOWK
06-23-2010, 19:19
61 for a 127.4?????? :bigeyes:

Yes Indeed! I've gone through 2.5 of them now, and I've got another one in the bunker. I think there's still 3 or 4 of them on the shelf at the store. You're making me want to grab them ASAP. One more peep and I will...I swear.

sailor22
06-24-2010, 07:37
Peep, peep, peep - and send one this way please.

foxflyer5
06-25-2010, 12:19
i passed on Old Forester today. its something ive been wanting to try but have never seen around here. but it was the 86 proof and only available in 1.75 L, and i tend to distrust bourbon that is sold in that quantity. does anyone know if that's a decent pour, or should i hold out and try to find the Signature label?

OscarV
06-25-2010, 23:01
or should i hold out and try to find the Signature label?

I'm not B-F fan but yes get the Signature, I think it's their best.
Not so good neat but good over cracked ice.

ThomasH
06-27-2010, 15:07
Had to pass on some Baby Saz rye as it was priced at the same low price as the Handy rye on the shelf next to it, 69.99. Also saw some NAS Old Weller Antique for 24.99 and passed on it too. Also saw Van Winkle Lot B for 47.99 too!

Thomas

foxflyer5
07-06-2010, 10:47
i was at the beach and there was a fancy liquor/wine store that had a bunch of drinks that i cannot find round these parts. unfortunately, i never expected to find these, hence, they werent in my bourbon budget for the weekend. so i had to pass on the PVW 15 year and the PVW thats a step below that one. also had to pass on Rock Hill Farms. i may have splurged on one of them, but my wife was with me and that just wouldnt have gone over well. so i had to settle for the Sazerac Rye, which tasted like cherry exlixir to me.

bourbon-n00b
07-06-2010, 15:04
Gave up on an ebay auction of 1975-era Seagram's Benchmark. Was willing to go $55 which is already too high but when the bids went higher, I walked away without.

Actually a little relieved, since from what I've read, the stuff is nice but nothing to do backflips over. The $ will be put to better use on other bottles down the line.

foxflyer5
07-08-2010, 12:32
the other day i saw a JB white label with firefighters on it. maybe from a specific fire department? do they have a label with some proceeds going to a fire dept or something?

hectic1
07-08-2010, 13:37
I really wanted to buy a bottle of MM 46 to try but at $35 I couldn't pull the trigger especially when I can get a bottle of ORVW 10/107 for $32 or almost 2 bottles of OWA NAS for about the same price. :(

Virus_Of_Life
07-08-2010, 14:01
I really wanted to buy a bottle of MM 46 to try but at $35 I couldn't pull the trigger especially when I can get a bottle of ORVW 10/107 for $32 or almost 2 bottles of OWA NAS for about the same price. :(

Yeah, but if you looked at every new release of bourbon in that context how much would you miss out on? I have bad mouthed MM as much as anyone, never owned a bottle before but am buying the first bottle of 46 I see. Can't let comparison shopping rule your every move man.

ggilbertva
07-08-2010, 14:19
Gave up on an ebay auction of 1975-era Seagram's Benchmark. Was willing to go $55 which is already too high but when the bids went higher, I walked away without.

Actually a little relieved, since from what I've read, the stuff is nice but nothing to do backflips over. The $ will be put to better use on other bottles down the line.

I'll be the standout and say I love the 70's era Benchmark. It's a very "velvety" bourbon (if that's even accurate) with a good flavor profile. I found 4 pint bottles from '78 and a 4/5 from '75 in DC a year or so ago.

IronHead
07-08-2010, 17:40
Yeah, but if you looked at every new release of bourbon in that context how much would you miss out on? I have bad mouthed MM as much as anyone, never owned a bottle before but am buying the first bottle of 46 I see. Can't let comparison shopping rule your every move man.

Agreed, Christian. Bob. You've had both ORVW 10/107 and OWA NAS. You haven't had M46. I am sure we've all spent more than 35 bucks on bottles we were less than thrilled with. (cough, Vintage 17, cough) But as an enthusiast I think I would rather spend 35 bucks on something I haven't had than 32 bucks on something I have.

bourbon-n00b
07-18-2010, 17:28
Got snaked out on a gold-veined OWA 107 on ebay. The description was not all that descriptive and I was kinda hoping it would fly below the radar. Silly me...

IronHead
07-18-2010, 18:08
Out of curiosity, what was the going price?


Got snaked out on a gold-veined OWA 107 on ebay. The description was not all that descriptive and I was kinda hoping it would fly below the radar. Silly me...

silverfish
07-18-2010, 18:28
Out of curiosity, what was the going price?

$102.50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottle-4-5Qt-OLD-WELLER-Numbered-FULL-SEALED-/140426485671?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b2121fa7)? (tho' that one was OW not OWA)

bourbon-n00b
07-19-2010, 07:49
Yeah, that's it. I blew it on the name while posting...

matthew0715
07-19-2010, 08:34
$102.50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottle-4-5Qt-OLD-WELLER-Numbered-FULL-SEALED-/140426485671?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b2121fa7)? (tho' that one was OW not OWA)

Huh? It looks like it's 7/107 just like Antique, even though that word is not on the label. When did they start calling it Old Weller Antique? (Meaning how old is that bottle?) Was that to distinguish it from the 7/90 (Special Reserve) and the 12/90? Both of those are (currently) called W.L.Weller, not Old Weller.

doubleblank
07-19-2010, 10:06
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=184512&highlight=weller#post184512

Here's some history and pics on the evolution of the Weller 7/107 bottlings.

Randy

Josh
07-19-2010, 12:06
It was like the bottom-shelf dusty gods were tormenting me today. I saw an old handle of Early Times behind a counter, but when I squinted, it said "Kentucky Whiskey" not bourbon. Then I saw an old Dant Olde Bourbon with a battered label sitting by its lonesome on a back shelf. I took a look at it thru the bulletproof glass and noticed it said, "Bardstown, KY." Ya' just can't win for losin'. :banghead:

Virus_Of_Life
07-22-2010, 02:27
Nope...I think I've pretty much hit all of Minneapolis/St Paul area...don't think I'll be hunting there anymore. ;)

Need hunting lessons you do it appears.

sgtgto
07-22-2010, 04:30
Need hunting lessons you do it appears.


Some people have it, some people play clean up... judging by his recent finds, I'd say he falls in the first category.

hectic1
07-22-2010, 08:04
Need hunting lessons you do it appears.
Is this supposed to be a phrase from Star Wars???:skep: By the way, is there a reason that you felt the need to repost that I supposedly need hunting lessons from a master jedi like you? The first message that you posted on 7/18/10 claiming this was enough...if you want to post shit just to stir the pot once is probably enough! In case you missed it the first time, I said I think I've hit pretty much all of...not all of Minneapolis/St Paul...I would think a master hunter like yourself should need to ask a rookie like me where he can find stuff then should he? Happy Hunting! :rolleyes:

Virus_Of_Life
07-22-2010, 11:48
Is this supposed to be a phrase from Star Wars???:skep: By the way, is there a reason that you felt the need to repost that I supposedly need hunting lessons from a master jedi like you? The first message that you posted on 7/18/10 claiming this was enough...if you want to post shit just to stir the pot once is probably enough! In case you missed it the first time, I said I think I've hit pretty much all of...not all of Minneapolis/St Paul...I would think a master hunter like yourself should need to ask a rookie like me where he can find stuff then should he? Happy Hunting! :rolleyes:

Didn't even realize I phrased it that way at the time. :lol:

Not sure what I had posted on the 18th, but I'll take your word for it. I am definitely not a master hunter just been pretty lucky over the years and have nothing to complain about.

sailor22
07-28-2010, 07:52
Ran across a fellow who had a case of these - He wouldn't even consider selling me one. He isn't associated with a store but according to his story he helped move "about 50" cases years ago and the case he is holding now was "shrinkage".



He did tell me he "chugged" half a bottle once and it wasn't very good whiskey.:rolleyes:

CorvallisCracker
07-28-2010, 13:15
...the case he is holding now was "shrinkage".


It's okay - Ed Ball is no longer around to miss it.

ggilbertva
07-28-2010, 15:34
He did tell me he "chugged" half a bottle once and it wasn't very good whiskey.:rolleyes:

A bad bourbon or a bad palate. I have a bottle of that open right now and it's superb.

birdman1099
07-28-2010, 15:39
A bad bourbon or a bad palate. I have a bottle of that open right now and it's superb.


My thoughts exactly....

Steve, you need to try harder to get a couple bottles off him....

sailor22
07-28-2010, 18:48
No chance of getting a bottle I'm afraid -- a good story though.

Seems Ed Ball, a Florida Land Baron and scion of St Joe Paper Company had some sort of interest in Brown Forman that included a deed to 10 square feet of land that happened to be under a building at the BF distillery. They wanted to rebuild the building but couldn't proceed without Mr Ball's permission, which he wouldn't give. A representative from Brown Forman visited Mr Ball at Wakulla Springs and promised "more whiskey than you can drink in three lifetimes" if he would only give his written permission to begin the rebuilding back at the distillery. Mr Ball agreed and sometime later three rail cars full of the juice pictured arrived in Tallahassee. The cases were offloaded and stored somewhere in Tallahassee until some was moved down state. The rest is still here..... somewhere. The bottle pictured represent "shrinkage" from the last time they were moved. The fellow who showed it to me was one of the movers. Traditionally long term employees who retire from St Joe receive one of these bottles, but no one is excited about it because the whiskey has a reputation for not being very good. I put that down to the drinker not the juice. I would anticipate that it would be great tasting Bourbon and I'm bummed I couldn't get any - I would love to taste some.

BTW - the date on the bottom of the bottle is '65

CorvallisCracker
07-28-2010, 21:00
BTW - the date on the bottom of the bottle is '65

I knew it had to be before 1981, since that's when he died.

Maybe one of the Wakulla Springs cave divers will find the rest of it. :lol:

sailor22
07-29-2010, 06:45
My money is on one of the corporate offices in the Southwood development.

silverfish
08-07-2010, 20:22
Passed on the Old Rip 23 year Decanter set. It was nice to see one
(even from outside the locked "special stuff" room.) Priced at $350.,
I told my wife I'd rather have five bottles of Pappy 15 at $70. per
but not sure she thought that was a deal...

CaptainQ
08-08-2010, 20:13
Passed on the Old Rip 23 year Decanter set. It was nice to see one
(even from outside the locked "special stuff" room.) Priced at $350.,
I told my wife I'd rather have five bottles of Pappy 15 at $70. per
but not sure she thought that was a deal...

Come on, you know you want one!
http://i38.tinypic.com/28jcwvp.jpg

Special Reserve
08-09-2010, 03:33
I passed on a ORVW23 as well. Store owner wants $500 for it. Of course, I too want this set but not at that price.

MrAtomic
08-10-2010, 09:58
Walked on by a bottle of (non-BHC) Weller Centennial at $50. I know it's a discontinued bottling that I used to enjoy, but I couldn't remember what I used to pay for it, and $50 seemed steep. There was also a (non-BHC) Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve for $45 that stayed behind, as well.

bourbonNOOG
08-13-2010, 18:14
Passes on 2 Pappy 20s, Buffalo Trace Experimental, and Woodford Masters Collection Seasoned Oak. Purchased a Lot B because I've heard several good reviews on the forum.

WsmataU
08-15-2010, 08:56
$350 for a ORVW 23 set is a tough pass. I wish I lived up in NY. I may have to send my brother bourbon hunting out of Brooklyn.:cool:

OscarV
08-15-2010, 09:00
I saw an Old Rip 23 for $335.00 plus 6% sales tax at The Thoroughbred Shop in Lexington KY back in May, might still be there.

silverfish
08-15-2010, 18:35
$350 for a ORVW 23 set is a tough pass. I wish I lived up in NY. I may have to send my brother bourbon hunting out of Brooklyn.:cool:

If you (or your brother) want to order on on-line, there's a store
in Rochester (http://marketviewliquor.com/index-id-107710-a-1.01.html) ($350.) or 3rd Ave. in NYC (http://www.americaswineshop.com/r/products/old-rip-van-winkle-distillery-pappy-van-winkle-s-family-selection-decanter-23-year-old?id=C7im4Lc3&mv_pc=819) ($400.) that have 'em.

Rutter
08-19-2010, 07:47
Passed on a bottle of Mcafee's Benchmark old number 8 today as they had plenty of bottles there and I was shocked by how cheap it was so wanted to pop on here and see if it was worth a try.

WsmataU
08-19-2010, 18:32
Thanks for the tip Silverfish!

SMOWK
08-21-2010, 16:22
Passed up a whole row of Old Forester BIB today. They've been there a while, so I've been letting them hang out awaiting the proper time. It's getting close to fall bottling season, so I've been saving the money.

I really think 09 OFBB hurt my view of OF products as a whole. I did like the 2008 bottle I had. What were they thinking when they bottled the BB in 2009?

ggilbertva
08-22-2010, 13:59
Passed up a whole row of Old Forester BIB today. They've been there a while, so I've been letting them hang out awaiting the proper time. It's getting close to fall bottling season, so I've been saving the money.

I really think 09 OFBB hurt my view of OF products as a whole. I did like the 2008 bottle I had. What were they thinking when they bottled the BB in 2009?

Being in MD, you should be able to find some dusty bottles of older Old Forester. I've picked up a number of bottles from the 70's and 80's and those older bottles are some of my favorite. I had OF Signature the other night and it's just not the same as the stuff distilled 3-4 decades ago. The older stuff is rich, creamy (buttery) and full of flavor. I have a 70's vintage Old Forester BIB open right now and I'd put that head to head with SW any day.

sailor22
08-23-2010, 07:51
I have a couple of OF BiB from the 80's and I think they are great. Still searching for the 70's version but if it improves on the ones I have I can't wait until I find some.

ggilbertva
08-23-2010, 10:36
I have a couple of OF BiB from the 80's and I think they are great. Still searching for the 70's version but if it improves on the ones I have I can't wait until I find some.

When it comes to Old Forester, 414>354 (just my humble opinion).

Virus_Of_Life
08-23-2010, 11:42
Visiting friends in SoCal I had to pass up some ND OGD 86 because I just wasn't paying $23.99 a bottle for it. I can't believe that 20 years ago when that was first put on a shelf it was going for that much.

SMOWK
08-23-2010, 13:20
Being in MD, you should be able to find some dusty bottles of older Old Forester. I've picked up a number of bottles from the 70's and 80's and those older bottles are some of my favorite.

I've searched and searched all over, with none to be found. Most of my searching was/is done on the eastern shore, but I've also made my way around the other side of the Chesapeake quite a bit to no avail. The dusties I've found have all been from out of state.

IowaJeff
08-30-2010, 15:04
I passed on Weller 12 for $20. I have had the Weller Antique 7 and the Weller Antique with no age statement and liked both. Should I pick up the 12? Is it better/similar?

ggilbertva
08-30-2010, 15:14
I passed on Weller 12 for $20. I have had the Weller Antique 7 and the Weller Antique with no age statement and liked both. Should I pick up the 12? Is it better/similar?

I would say pick it up as the Weller 12 is the older of the other two yet sitting at 90 proof. It's nice to have this bottled coupled with the other two so you have the variety of age and proof to experience.

fishnbowljoe
08-30-2010, 15:21
Jeff, I'd go ahead and pick up one, or more. :rolleyes: Of course, I am partial to all things Weller. :grin: The 12 yr old is along the same lines as the SR and 107. Being in the barrel an extra 5 years gives it a richer flavor. Even though it's only 90 proof, there's more of the caramel, vanilla, nutty flavor to enjoy. With some bottlings, you may also find a hint of wood/leather too. All in all the Weller 12 is is a very enjoyable pour IMHO. Cheers! Joe

SMOWK
08-30-2010, 15:25
Should I pick up the 12? Is it better/similar?

I try to buy them by the six pack. It's great stuff, and $20 is a great price for anything 12 years old.

Skunk
08-30-2010, 15:43
I passed on Weller 12 for $20.

Epic fail. Man I wish we had that stuff around here.

CaptainQ
08-30-2010, 21:12
Epic fail. Man I wish we had that stuff around here.

+100

$20!!! We can't even get it here. I'd buy it by the case at that price.

SMOWK
08-30-2010, 21:25
I'd buy it by the case at that price.

Correction: Cases

jfw
08-30-2010, 22:42
Four Roses 100th. I have a few in the bunker and it was next to the 2009 Mariage :). Both were only $72.

IowaJeff
08-31-2010, 08:02
Weller 12 it is! I know where I'm stopping after work!

cigarnv
08-31-2010, 08:26
Charter 101 being closed out in Va for $8... great value for the price but have a few already....

p_elliott
08-31-2010, 09:03
I passed on Weller 12 for $20. I have had the Weller Antique 7 and the Weller Antique with no age statement and liked both. Should I pick up the 12? Is it better/similar?

Jeff are you going to hear from Fishnbowljoe if you haven't already. That would be like asking me if you should buy Wild Turkey products.

ggilbertva
08-31-2010, 09:29
Charter 101 being closed out in Va for $8... great value for the price but have a few already....

Close out? They just started offering Charter 101 not more than a year ago. Well, guess I'll have to grab a couple as they're good for mixin.

cigarnv
08-31-2010, 10:00
Close out? They just started offering Charter 101 not more than a year ago. Well, guess I'll have to grab a couple as they're good for mixin.

Yep.... and they will probably bring it back next year..... go figure...

Josh
08-31-2010, 12:15
Yep.... and they will probably bring it back next year..... go figure...

Let's hope not. It's time to put that dog to sleep.

ggilbertva
08-31-2010, 12:51
Let's hope not. It's time to put that dog to sleep.

I used the Charter 101 this past weekend to make Manhattans and it turned out well. I agree that's not a bourbon one would drink neat but as a mixer it's not half bad.

Josh
08-31-2010, 13:19
I used the Charter 101 this past weekend to make Manhattans and it turned out well. I agree that's not a bourbon one would drink neat but as a mixer it's not half bad.

Yeah, but there are a dozen others that do a better job, most of them for cheaper.

Skunk
08-31-2010, 15:47
Let's hope not. It's time to put that dog to sleep.

That's funny. You, posting about charter 101, in the what did you pass up thread- because I remember when you came over to our place to drink you stopped on the way and picked up some random stuff, one of which was the charter 101. Ordinarily I would forgive you for bringing that over, but you left behind a $30 bottle of RR101 because you were short on funds. Another fail :grin:

I'm just messin' w/ you. I really enjoyed it.

Bourbon Boiler
08-31-2010, 16:48
Passed up two different versions of BT experimental collection in Indy. I was in a rush, so I didn't really get to see which releases they were. My wife was there, so I couldn't spend $80 in front of her. I might have to call tomorrow and get more details.

Josh
09-01-2010, 06:04
That's funny. You, posting about charter 101, in the what did you pass up thread- because I remember when you came over to our place to drink you stopped on the way and picked up some random stuff, one of which was the charter 101. Ordinarily I would forgive you for bringing that over, but you left behind a $30 bottle of RR101 because you were short on funds. Another fail :grin:

I'm just messin' w/ you. I really enjoyed it.


It was $35, not $30! :lol: I shoulda picked up one or two more, I know, but I was A) relatively new to the game and didn't know what I was passing up and 2) fairly low on funds at the moment.

As for the Charter, that was around the time it came out I think. It was the first and last bottle I ever bought. Let's hang out again and I'll bring over more crap bourbon!:grin:

sailor22
09-07-2010, 09:49
I had to pass up two handles of Old Taylor 6yr tax stamped juice priced at $12.50 each. Didn't want to seem too interested so didn't check the date on the bottom but neither bottle had a bar code. There was just no way I could carry them on my motorcycle as I already had 5 other dusties in addition to my luggage loaded. The prospect of a 10 hr ride on a bad handling bike with bottles trying to fall off wasn't too appealing.

Rutter
09-08-2010, 03:19
Passed on a vwfrr for 55 and a load of BTAC at 95+ just didn't have the budget to snap them all up, I'm sure I'll head back soon enough and get the vwfrr at least.

SMOWK
09-08-2010, 09:39
I'm sure I'll head back soon enough and get the vwfrr at least.

That stuff is just too tempting at any price.

onmytrack
09-11-2010, 14:00
Passed on a PVW23 at $250. Are you kidding me? Picked up some Pappy 15 and ORVW 10 instead.

Jim

fishnbowljoe
09-12-2010, 17:23
Passed on a Pappy 23 for $199, a Hirsch 16 gold foil for $195, and WT Tradition for $90. Joe

WsmataU
09-12-2010, 18:14
2009 OFBB for $54 and a JRPS for $99. The store has a great selection but they are wickedly expensive!

BradleyC
09-20-2010, 12:55
Passed on a 2001 ER17 for $100??? Also an old label Baker's for $100. I guess they will sit 9 more years at that price

gblick
09-21-2010, 19:27
Today I saw something I don't recall reading about here yet....Four Roses 100th Anniversary. The store said they just got it in last week. Is this something brand new? At $90 per bottle, I had to pass.

Edit: Ok, a quick search shows that it was last mentioned back in August.

sailor22
09-21-2010, 20:06
Passed on a OFBB from '03 a couple weeks back. I'm thinking it might be worth the ride to go pick it up tomorrow.

ggilbertva
09-22-2010, 05:50
Today I saw something I don't recall reading about here yet....Four Roses 100th Anniversary. The store said they just got it in last week. Is this something brand new? At $90 per bottle, I had to pass.

Edit: Ok, a quick search shows that it was last mentioned back in August.

The 100th was released earlier this year, sometime around April I think. This particular FRSB is 17 years old which is unique among the other releases which have been younger. I personally didn't care for it but that's just me and my crappy palate. Hansell rated it an 87.

unclebunk
09-22-2010, 07:31
Passed on the Whistlepig Rye but doubt I will do so again. The pull of my internal "whiskey magnet" is just too strong and I'm becoming obsessed about checking this juice out after all the great stuff I've read about it.

chilidawg7
09-29-2010, 19:37
Woodford Reserve Sour Mash. Marked down to $69.99 from $99.99, but still a little steep for me.