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MarkEdwards
04-04-2010, 04:47
There was an interesting article in the local online paper this morning, about the rise of "hobbyist distillers":

http://fwix.com/dallas/share/e285beb108/moonshine_quietly_gets_a_21st-century_makeover

Dramiel McHinson
04-04-2010, 19:05
There was an interesting article in the local online paper this morning, about the rise of "hobbyist distillers":

http://fwix.com/dallas/share/e285beb108/moonshine_quietly_gets_a_21st-century_makeover


Ruh-Rooooh! When the taxman gets a whiff of this untapped revenue he going to try to get a Christmas bonus by taxing untaxed home made shine. It will all work out if the home distiller can claim a home office deduction and hobby expenses. :grin:

cowdery
04-04-2010, 22:48
If your house burns down because the illegal still in your basement starts a fire, will that invalidate your homeowners insurance?

ErichPryde
04-05-2010, 02:19
If your house burns down because the illegal still in your basement starts a fire, will that invalidate your homeowners insurance?

If my house burns down because of the huge bunker I have, and the investigators note that alcohol fuel may have been involved, will they accuse me of arson and invalidate my insurance?

p_elliott
04-05-2010, 08:08
If your house burns down because the illegal still in your basement starts a fire, will that invalidate your homeowners insurance?

I would guess that it would like DUI invalidates your comprehensive car insurance. Dieing of cirrhosis of the liver from drinking invalidates most life insurance policies too.

matthew0715
04-05-2010, 08:18
I would guess that it would like DUI invalidates your comprehensive car insurance. Dieing of cirrhosis of the liver from drinking invalidates most life insurance policies too.

Warning: Thread drift.

If I die from cirrhosis of the liver, it's because I'm an alcoholic, and alcoholism is a disease, probably inherited. Why should that disease invalidate my life insurance? Does death from smoking related illness invalidate life insurance? Don't you understand, I'm a mindless automaton with no free will, at the mercy of forces beyond my control! :grin:

Matt

smokinjoe
04-05-2010, 17:46
Warning: Thread drift.

If I die from cirrhosis of the liver, it's because I'm an alcoholic, and alcoholism is a disease, probably inherited. Why should that disease invalidate my life insurance? Does death from smoking related illness invalidate life insurance? Don't you understand, I'm a mindless automaton with no free will, at the mercy of forces beyond my control! :grin:

Matt

I think you mean:

ďDonít you (MAKERíS MARK) understand, Iím (MAKERíS MARK) a mindless automation (MAKERíS MARK), with no (MAKERíS MARK) free will (MAKERíS MARK). At the mercy (MAKERíS MARK) of (MAKERíS MARK) forces (MAKERíS MARK) beyond my (MAKERíS MARK) control (MAKERíS MARK)!Ē

Muuuwaahahahahahhahahah!!!!!!! (Evil Laugh) :70358-devil:

:D

callmeox
04-05-2010, 18:26
IANAL, but isn't this virtually the same as admitting to the newspaper that you are running a meth lab in your house? :skep:

ILLfarmboy
04-05-2010, 19:59
If my house burns down because of the huge bunker I have, and the investigators note that alcohol fuel may have been involved, will they accuse me of arson and invalidate my insurance?

Lucky me, I've got enough smokeless powder to mask the effects of all of the alcohol.

theDon
04-06-2010, 08:27
If your house burns down because the illegal still in your basement starts a fire, will that invalidate your homeowners insurance?

Well we don't have basements in Texas so most stills would be in a shed that probably wouldn't be covered anyway.

MarkEdwards
04-06-2010, 15:36
IANAL, but isn't this virtually the same as admitting to the newspaper that you are running a meth lab in your house? :skep:

That was my first thought - sort of like an "I hate cops" bumper sticker on a red sports car...

cowdery
04-07-2010, 11:01
Ipso facto, volunteering in print that you are actively operating an illegal still can only be called stupid. You even wonder if reporters should have a legal duty to protect the stupid from themselves, but that would pretty much destroy political coverage.

Ultra
04-07-2010, 11:26
Well we don't have basements in Texas so most stills would be in a shed that probably wouldn't be covered anyway.

The Don steps in to spoil the fun with a dose of reality. That's why he is The Don.

;)

cowdery
04-07-2010, 17:11
Actually, one of the requirements in the greatly relaxed Federal licensing rules is that a still cannot be within a residence or within a set number of feet of one.

And am I to understand that there are no residential basements in the entire state of Texas? Really? And how is that "reality," when we weren't really talking about Texas, were we? You do have basements in Michigan, don't you, Charlie. Or are they surreal basements?

ErichPryde
04-07-2010, 18:05
Lucky me, I've got enough smokeless powder to mask the effects of all of the alcohol.

:slappin: If my mom's house ever burns to the ground, I'm not sure what they'd blame- the fire would smell like peat & powder! :slappin:

callmeox
04-07-2010, 18:36
This house in Dallas (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4009-W-Lawther-Drive_Dallas_TX_75214_1117619535) has a basement.

Either I struck gold with a quick search or there are more. :lol:

cowdery
04-07-2010, 20:16
This house in Dallas (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4009-W-Lawther-Drive_Dallas_TX_75214_1117619535) has a basement.

Either I struck gold with a quick search or there are more. :lol:

I'm glad to know we can cancel the telethon.

theDon
04-08-2010, 12:06
This house in Dallas (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4009-W-Lawther-Drive_Dallas_TX_75214_1117619535) has a basement.

Either I struck gold with a quick search or there are more. :lol:

You know and that looks exactly like my house. You mean I could have had a basement.:rolleyes: Normal residential houses do not have a basement in Texas because the ground shifts too much. Standard info.

cowdery
04-08-2010, 12:11
You know and that looks exactly like my house. You mean I could have had a basement.:rolleyes: Normal residential houses do not have a basement in Texas because the ground shifts too much. Standard info.

I know it's true in New Orleans, for example. I would guess it's true of Houston for the same reasons. I'm just skeptical because Texas is so big, I find it hard to believe the whole state has this issue. No big deal. I'm always happy to have new information.

theDon
04-08-2010, 12:23
I know it's true in New Orleans, for example. I would guess it's true of Houston for the same reasons. I'm just skeptical because Texas is so big, I find it hard to believe the whole state has this issue. No big deal. I'm always happy to have new information.

I just don't think it's a building tradition here either, not just an issue with ground movement. I live in the Dallas area we don't have them other than of course the picture of Jerry Jones' house that Ox found.

sku
04-08-2010, 12:23
Basements are fairly uncommon in California as well. I've heard a number of explanations, from it simply being stylistic, to it having to do with the warmer weather and the lack of a "frost line" which is required for the foundation, but I have no idea of the real reason.

theDon
04-08-2010, 12:33
I found a ton of info by googling "basements in Texas" and this is the last time I'll post on this. North Texas land is clay and shifts, shrinks and expands, west and east Texas soil is too sandy. Houston area water tables are too high. The only place they are common seems to be the Panhandle which is Tornado alley. I'm done. Somebody get this back on track.

callmeox
04-08-2010, 12:56
Is this the wrong time for me to declare in public how much I love this place?

cowdery
04-08-2010, 15:48
Yeah, I'm finding this interesting. The micro-distillery thing has been done to death, let's convert the whole board to basement chat.

Now that I think about it, I can't remember ever being in a residential basement in Texas.

I've lived in Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois and this is basement country. Around here, if your house doesn't have a basement, it probably has wheels.

theDon
04-08-2010, 20:10
Yeah, I'm finding this interesting. The micro-distillery thing has been done to death, let's convert the whole board to basement chat.

Now that I think about it, I can't remember ever being in a residential basement in Texas.

I've lived in Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois and this is basement country. Around here, if your house doesn't have a basement, it probably has wheels.

You know at one point I wanted to make that joke....How do you put a basement in a trailer house, but contrary to popular belief, most of us live in actual houses built with cement foundations. Which is another factor. If you look in the phone book under foundation repair, you will find exactly 3,000,604 companies offering services to take care of your foundation problems in Texas.

Stu
04-08-2010, 23:48
Most Texas houses that I've seen have slabs, not foundations. I've heard that's because slabs resist the Texas soil shift more than foundations. I know there are a lot of cos. in Texas that like to come in to the middle of your living room with jack hammers and tear up your slab to find a water leak, but more than 3 million?

theDon
04-09-2010, 08:23
Most Texas houses that I've seen have slabs, not foundations. I've heard that's because slabs resist the Texas soil shift more than foundations. I know there are a lot of cos. in Texas that like to come in to the middle of your living room with jack hammers and tear up your slab to find a water leak, but more than 3 million?

A slab is a foundation and a foundation is a slab, made of concrete, just like I said. Look it up. I think you had one too many bourbons.:slappin:

And seriously I said exactly 3,000,604. Really? It was meant to be funny and show there are alot of foundation repair companies in Texas. Again lay of the jug. If it has XXX on it, no drinky drinky!

matthew0715
04-09-2010, 11:40
Yeah, I'm finding this interesting. The micro-distillery thing has been done to death, let's convert the whole board to basement chat.

My father's house in the Wilkes-Barre, PA area had a basement (not unusual), but he was surprised to learn of the need for Subsidence Insurance. Just as flood insurance is separate from your regular homeowners insurance, in an area built over old coal mines, there is always a possibility the earth will shift causing a sudden hole in your basement floor that looks like it goes to the center of the earth. It's not common, but it happens.

Matt

cowdery
04-09-2010, 21:48
Like Stu, I grew-up making the distinction between "foundations" and "slabs" or, more properly, "slab foundations." We have houses here that have foundations, not slab foundations, and crawl spaces instead of basements.

ALL BASEMENT CHAT ALL THE TIME!!!

OscarV
04-09-2010, 21:57
ALL BASEMENT CHAT ALL THE TIME!!!




All righty then, I've been dying to know if a basement flood is covered by home owners insurance or not.:skep:

cowdery
04-09-2010, 22:01
All righty then, I've been dying to know if a basement flood is covered by home owners insurance or not.:skep:

It depends on the cause and exactly how the policy is worded if basement water damage is a covered hazard.

Ultra
04-10-2010, 01:02
Actually, one of the requirements in the greatly relaxed Federal licensing rules is that a still cannot be within a residence or within a set number of feet of one.

And am I to understand that there are no residential basements in the entire state of Texas? Really? And how is that "reality," when we weren't really talking about Texas, were we? You do have basements in Michigan, don't you, Charlie. Or are they surreal basements?

Actually, my bar is in my finished basement. Would love to share some of my bourbon there with any of you.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/SIMG0009.jpg

craigthom
04-10-2010, 06:50
This house in Dallas (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4009-W-Lawther-Drive_Dallas_TX_75214_1117619535) has a basement.

Either I struck gold with a quick search or there are more. :lol:

I know that there's no basement at the Alamo.

callmeox
04-10-2010, 07:01
All righty then, I've been dying to know if a basement flood is covered by home owners insurance or not.:skep:

Back in July of 2006 we had a major rain storm in Lake County, Ohio (a 500 year event) where we got over 10 inches of rain in a 24 hour period. Needless to say, there was plenty of flooding and the Grand River crested at over 19 feet, far exceeding the previous record crest of 13 feet.

Most of the damage in our area was from sanitary sewer backup and neighbors all around me had in upwards of a foot of sewage in their basements at various times during the storm. The sewer system was just not designed to handle that huge amount of water and it had to go somewhere. Manhole covers were popping off all over due to the force of the water. Luckily, we had no sewer backup in our basement.

Although I don't have flood insurance, I did pick up sewer back up coverage very cheaply the day after the storm. It covers most of the infrastructure that you would find in a basement (furnace, hot water tank, laundry, improved walls, etc.) but that's it. If you lose your couch and the new flat screen TV, it's on your dime. :grin:

Aren't you glad you asked?

theDon
04-10-2010, 10:40
This house in Dallas (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4009-W-Lawther-Drive_Dallas_TX_75214_1117619535) has a basement.

Either I struck gold with a quick search or there are more. :lol:

Interesting story on this ad in yesterday's Dallas Morning News. Seems this was H.L. Hunt's house, famous oil tycoon, and one of the most famous houses in Dallas. It was mistakingly put up for sale for 32,000,000, but was not actually for sale by permission of the owners. The listing has been removed. Just thought it was strange you found that and then there was a story on it in the paper.

callmeox
04-10-2010, 15:29
Synchronicity!



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smokinjoe
10-15-2010, 06:00
A thread like this needs to be bumped. :D
I know a guy who bought a house, then decided to put in his own basement. ;)

CorvallisCracker
10-21-2010, 16:59
...then decided to put in his own basement. ;)

My wife has been trying to talk me into doing that.