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Virus_Of_Life
06-19-2010, 12:21
I still have cravings from my days of smoking cigarettes and chewing tobacco, but will not ever do those two again; however I have been known to puff on a cigar which doesn't do much for me. So I have been wanting to learn how to smoke a pipe to get a little nicotine with the evening cocktail and it seems like a great way to relax when sitting outside by the BBQ or the campfire when out camping.

I am sure we probably have a member or two who smoke a pipe so I thought I'd ask. Any suggestions on a type of pipe to buy, good first tobacco, etc?

You Tube will probably tell me how to probably pack and light it I imagine.

ErichPryde
06-19-2010, 13:06
Christian,



I occasionally smoke a pipe. I started when I was 19 or 20, a friend in the OU dorms smoked and I thought I'd give it a shot. Since then, I've purchased a couple of pipes.

I'd recommend a relatively inexpensive savinelli for a first pipe. Savinelli's seem to smoke very well regardless of how expensive they are.

I'd recommend getting a bent or curved stem on your first pipe. I say this because as you smoke, saliva will get into the stem and bowl, and there's nothing worse than accidentally sucking some tobacco juice into your mouth. I feel like figuring out how to smoke on something like a curved stem is easier when you don't have to worry about things like that (that being said, straights and bents are equal).

Smoking is completely relative. There is no one best pipe, and expensive pipes do not necessarily smoke better than inexpensive ones. The only reason you would want to buy an expensive pipe is to have a unique look. The most important thing is going to be whether or not you like how the pipe smokes, and whether or not you like how it feels in your hand.

Purchase a pipe nail and some fluffy and rought pipe cleaners to begin with. a pipe nail shouldn't cost you more than a dollar.

Learn how to light your pipe properly, and how to break it in. as far as lighting a pipe, it can be a real struggle to keep it lit the first couple of times, but once you figure it out you're golden. the only advice I can offer is place the pipe tobacco in the bowl, and press it down gently with your finger. It should be somewhat springy, you don't want it to be tightly packed. Light the pipe, give it a couple of puffs (if you speed puff it will burn hot, burn your tongue, and taste bad. take it easy.), and then it will probably go out on you. that's fine, take your pipe nail (or your finger, if you're brave) and press down evenly and only slightly firmly on the tobacco, and relight. This second time it should be truly lit, and once you get it smoking properly it won't go out as much unless left unattended for quite some time.

As far as breaking the pipe in properly- cake (carbon deposit) layering needs to be evenly spread on the bowl including the bottom. Unless you want to smoke a LOT of tobacco, start with 1/4 or 1/2 bowls, with the intent of smoking everything in the pipe in order to get an even cake layer. A layer of cake inside your pipe bowl will help the pipe breathe and make it "taste better." the first couple of smokes in a new pipe might be squirrely and not taste the best, and that's normal.

DO NOT remove the stem from a hot pipe (there are only a couple of exceptions). The wood has expanded and has moisture in it. Typically when I'm done smoking, I run a fluffy pipe cleaner through the stem to remove excess moisture (and so it won't sour) and use a paper towel to dry-ream the bowl. Then I let it cool down a day before disassembling and cleaning (if it is necessary)

and last thing I can think of right now, when you bang the ashes out, hold it by the bowl, not by the stem! this is common sense but believe it or not people will snap stems doing that.


Here are some savinellis- I think there's a beginner sav set somewhere too, but couldn't remember a link.

http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/dept?dpt=W&srch=DW&tier2=4

youtube has some helpful videos, I'll try to hunt some down for you later. good luck!

jcg9779
04-12-2011, 14:09
Wow...great notes, Erik! I've often thought it would be fun to start smoking a pipe, but never new where to begin. This will be a big help if I decide to pick it up!

harshest
04-12-2011, 18:52
I have often thought about getting into pipe smoking but never got around to it. Here is a pretty good little intro, pretty similar to what ErichPryde already posted but there are also a lot of good suggestions in the comments as well.

http://artofmanliness.com/2009/10/14/a-pipe-smoking-primer/

Brisko
04-13-2011, 07:41
I haven't smoked a pipe in about 15 years but always enjoyed it. The only thing I would add to Erich's great advice is that when you load the bowl, do it in several layers, not too tight, as he said. This gives it a more consistent pack and a more steady smoke.

flintlock
04-17-2011, 09:43
Christian, I'll just touch lightly on pipe tobaccos. They sort of basically break into two camps: naturals and aromatics. Naturals are basically natural tobacco that is aged and dried and processed, but it's just tobacco, and it's made to TASTE delicious. Aromatics are usually (not always) cheaper quality tobaccos that are top-dressed with flavorings and are made to SMELL delicious.

Thats an oversimplification, but it kind of lays the ground work. Most dedicated connoiseurs probably live in the Natural camp - these are the English tobacco smokers - the tweed jacket, pint of stout, Hobbits in training. I'm in this camp. Natural tobacco tastes fantastic and is really wonderful stuff, but it tends smell like nothing more than plain old tobacco - it doesn't perfume the room up. Aromatics are those cherry cordial-smelling tobaccos you occasionally get a whiff of when a pipe smoker walks by - they make the room smell wonderful but they (to me) taste like mush. They try to make them taste like cherries or whiskey or apples, but it often doesn't work.

Pipe and Tobacco is a very good magazine to read. Superb tobacco can get gotten from Cornell and Diehl, Gawith and Hoggarth, and McClelland. C&D and McClelland are sort of the HH and BT of the tobacco world - most of the good stuff comes from one or the other.

Hope that helps. People tend to focus on the pipe, but it's often the tobacco that either makes or breaks them as a pipe smoker.

ErichPryde
04-17-2011, 11:27
Ryan, some of my favorite English tobaccos are balkan, I particularly like McClelland Legends.
http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=C&TID=3946

Legends is an interesting blend of Latakia, Virginia Leaf, and Orientals.

As far as the cased and topped aromatic category goes I'll mostly agree with your assessment- Many aromatics you find at walgreens are very cheaply made, using mostly inexpensive tobacco and chemicals. However, I am a big fan of W.O. Larsen's signature blend- I feel that it's one of those uncommon aromatics that actually tastes good as well.

Jono
07-26-2011, 21:01
Christian, I'll just touch lightly on pipe tobaccos. They sort of basically break into two camps: naturals and aromatics. Naturals are basically natural tobacco that is aged and dried and processed, but it's just tobacco, and it's made to TASTE delicious. Aromatics are usually (not always) cheaper quality tobaccos that are top-dressed with flavorings and are made to SMELL delicious.

Thats an oversimplification, but it kind of lays the ground work. Most dedicated connoiseurs probably live in the Natural camp - these are the English tobacco smokers - the tweed jacket, pint of stout, Hobbits in training. I'm in this camp. Natural tobacco tastes fantastic and is really wonderful stuff, but it tends smell like nothing more than plain old tobacco - it doesn't perfume the room up. Aromatics are those cherry cordial-smelling tobaccos you occasionally get a whiff of when a pipe smoker walks by - they make the room smell wonderful but they (to me) taste like mush. They try to make them taste like cherries or whiskey or apples, but it often doesn't work.

Pipe and Tobacco is a very good magazine to read. Superb tobacco can get gotten from Cornell and Diehl, Gawith and Hoggarth, and McClelland. C&D and McClelland are sort of the HH and BT of the tobacco world - most of the good stuff comes from one or the other.

Hope that helps. People tend to focus on the pipe, but it's often the tobacco that either makes or breaks them as a pipe smoker.

Interesting you should mention "the tweed jacket, pint of stout, Hobbits in training. I'm in this camp." I just read that JRR Tolkien smoked "Navy Cut"...not sure but I assume this refers to the "original" version...possibly
by Imperial of Liverpool or Capstan or Players (?)...see these comments:

http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=M&TID=1200

SmileyOrb 07/17/2011 "This tobacco (Players) has been going for donkeys years! A friend told me JRR Tolkein use to smoke this frequently"

PipesterJim 03/28/2011 "PNC is a thoroughly delicious virgina flake with the tiniest smidgeon of sweet, fruity topping that blends very nicely with the base tobaccos. It isn't strong enough to be termed an 'aromatic', but it just adds that extra little something to the flavours on offer. Although the N-factor is only moderate, there is plenty of smoke, and satisfaction is easy to come by."

http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=M&TID=1090

Pipemanuk 11/27/2009 "Fortune smiled on me recently and I was gifted with two round 2 ounce Capstan Full Navy Cut tins probably from the 1950's and a 2 ounce Medium Navy Cut tin from the 1930's. I've not opened the Full Navy Cut tins yet but I just couldn't resist opening the 1930's tin! The scent was very strong indeed...like a very old wine, almost a port. The tobacco was a broken flake, fairly dry and ready to smoke. To be honest it smelt so strong, you could almost just sit there breathing in the scent, but when I did light it I was greeted with wonderful clouds of smoke and the taste of alcoholic stewed dark fruits which lasted through the whole bowl. I imagine at something like 70 years old the tobacco has reached about as far as storage can take it....it's been such a privilage to have the chance to enjoy what must be a once in a lifetime opportunity. :-)"

ThomK 09/30/2009 "In the good old days when it vas medium made by Inperial Tobacco Co in Liverpol in good ol England, it was a blessin. Today when made in Danmark itīs more tastless (soft) then before. I cant undersand why Inperial Tobacco accepts the change of this old and famos brand. My Regrets ThomK in Sweden."

I read where one reporter said his main impression upon meeting Tolkein was his strong pipe smoke aroma.

http://www.pipes2smoke.com/pipe_tobacco.htm

"NAVY CUT: Originally the tobacco was favored by sailors. They would put it in a long thin canvas tube and twist it tight. When taken out it was a thick rope of tobacco that they could carry in their pocket. They could cut off a plug to chew or slice it to smoke in a pipe. Escudo, Three Nuns Slices and Bengal Slices are types of sliced plug. Normally it is a slow burning tobacco fitting with its sailing origins. Navy blends are often steeped in Rum as this what sailors used to to do."

taylor714
02-14-2012, 13:20
Peter stokkebye luxury flakes are hard to beat for the price.

35 bucks will net you a lb, and you can keep 2 ozs stored in half pint jars indefinitely. The tobacco ages and uses the oxygen in the container, eventually sealing it just like you would you do canning.

If you find blends you like, buy in bulk. It's much cheaper. I'd anyone wants some to try, ill gladly send a few flakes your way plus some others to sample

Beer&Bourbon
02-14-2012, 14:32
I've smoked cigars in the past and wanted to get into pipes because: 1. you can control the amount of tobacco you smoke at each session and 2. the tobacco is much cheaper than cigars.

I picked up a pipe a few weeks ago from an estate sale with the intention of not having to break one in. For 10 bucks or so I got a Dr. Grabow from the late 70s/ early 80s. I took it to a local tobacco shop where they told me it was unused - so a great price, but needed to be broken in. That said, I'd check local estate sales to try to find a pipe for a very reasonable price - especially since you very well might make some poor choices with your first pipe (or so I'm told).

About aromatics vs. english blends: I picked up a few aromatics that the local tobacco shop (Straus tobacconist) recommended to try out. Flavors are fairly mild, but reasonably interesting. I like to release the smoke slowly out my mouth and inhale a bit to get the aroma. I haven't picked up any english blends; online it seemed like most pipe smokers recommended starting with aromatics first. It seems that the english style is a bit of an acquired taste (take that with a grain of salt since I haven't tried them myself). Any recommendations for english/ natural pipe tobaccos to start with?

On another note where do you all smoke? My wife is lenient on most items (read: everything else), but she's always had some minor breathing issues and can't stand smoke. I'd like to smoke a pipe when the mood strikes during the winter, but can't stand the cold; it's just not pleasurable if I have to be cold. Do space heaters generate enough heat to make a detached garage doable for a session? Any other suggestions?

bourboncc
02-14-2012, 14:52
On another note where do you all smoke? My wife is lenient on most items (read: everything else), but she's always had some minor breathing issues and can't stand smoke. I'd like to smoke a pipe when the mood strikes during the winter, but can't stand the cold; it's just not pleasurable if I have to be cold. Do space heaters generate enough heat to make a detached garage doable for a session? Any other suggestions?

No cigar or pipe shops in your area?

Also, to answer the OP, I work for a cigar company so I might be a little biased, but I find pipes to be a PITA. The amount of maintenance that it takes to keep a pipe running well, not to mention to keep the tobacco lit while smoking, is just too much work for me. I also typically prefer fuller bodied Nicaraguan tobaccos, so generally pipe tobaccos don't do it for me.

Young Blacksmith
02-14-2012, 19:16
I've been a piper for about 8 years now. Switched over from cigars when I realized price and enjoyment were not there anymore.

If you've smoked before, especially cigars, I'd recommend something not aromatic. A pure virginia or virginia with perique, a stout burley, or even a latakia laden english.

I also recommend using a cob as your first main pipe. It looks country, but costs less than $10 and breaks in within a few smokes. Lets you get a feel for the pipe and smoking it without worrying about break in, breaking it, or what you've smoked in it.

For tobaccos I'd recommend opening jars at your local good tobacco store and sniffing. If one trips your fancy, pick up an ounce and try it out. If you can't do that, then the Stokkebye Bullseye Flake is one I love, Dunhill's Deluxe Navy Rolls is another.

Most places will carry at least Prince Albert, Carter Hall, or Sir Walter Raleigh, all burleys. I prefer Sir Walter myself. I'm not much for the latakia englishes or balkans so I can't help there except to say try one and see if you like the flavors.

taylor714
02-14-2012, 20:39
I've smoked cigars in the past and wanted to get into pipes because: 1. you can control the amount of tobacco you smoke at each session and 2. the tobacco is much cheaper than cigars.

I picked up a pipe a few weeks ago from an estate sale with the intention of not having to break one in. For 10 bucks or so I got a Dr. Grabow from the late 70s/ early 80s. I took it to a local tobacco shop where they told me it was unused - so a great price, but needed to be broken in. That said, I'd check local estate sales to try to find a pipe for a very reasonable price - especially since you very well might make some poor choices with your first pipe (or so I'm told).

About aromatics vs. english blends: I picked up a few aromatics that the local tobacco shop (Straus tobacconist) recommended to try out. Flavors are fairly mild, but reasonably interesting. I like to release the smoke slowly out my mouth and inhale a bit to get the aroma. I haven't picked up any english blends; online it seemed like most pipe smokers recommended starting with aromatics first. It seems that the english style is a bit of an acquired taste (take that with a grain of salt since I haven't tried them myself). Any recommendations for english/ natural pipe tobaccos to start with?

On another note where do you all smoke? My wife is lenient on most items (read: everything else), but she's always had some minor breathing issues and can't stand smoke. I'd like to smoke a pipe when the mood strikes during the winter, but can't stand the cold; it's just not pleasurable if I have to be cold. Do space heaters generate enough heat to make a detached garage doable for a session? Any other suggestions?

I didn't believe it til I tried it, but I smoke in my study with the door closed and windows cracked. For some reason, pipe smokers doesn't linger and stay like cigarettes or cigars

as far as English blends, McClelland dark English is excellent, as is peter stokkebye English. Squadron leader from Samuel Gawith is also phenomenal. If I loved the smokiness of English blends right away. Very rich, aromatic, and woodsy. If you want to try a few samples, send me your contact info and I'll get some your way.

For the record, I highly recommend corn cob pipes. They are inexpensive but smoke very well and can be replaced easily. If you smoke an English blends and don't like the camp fire smokiness and woodsy flavor, your pipe will still taste like that for many smokes to, come. It's called ghosting, where a specific tobacco impregnates the briar with its specific signature.

taylor714
02-14-2012, 20:44
No cigar or pipe shops in your area?

Also, to answer the OP, I work for a cigar company so I might be a little biased, but I find pipes to be a PITA. The amount of maintenance that it takes to keep a pipe running well, not to mention to keep the tobacco lit while smoking, is just too much work for me. I also typically prefer fuller bodied Nicaraguan tobaccos, so generally pipe tobaccos don't do it for me.

I came from 7 or 8 cigars a week to almost all pipe smoking. Much more in the way of flavor expansion. Also, if properly packed, a pipe should need only a few relights, maybe every 15 minutes or so, and that is just a quick match. Certain tobaccos will burn the whole way without needing a relights. Ad far ad maintenance, a quick pass of a pipe cleaner when done smoking is all the needed maintenance. When starting a pipe, it can seem daunting and frustrating, but just as it takes time to develop a palate for bourbon, so does it take time to master the art and skills of piping.

With all that being said, I still love cigars! Who do you happen to rep for?

Beer&Bourbon
02-14-2012, 22:12
No cigar or pipe shops in your area?


The place I picked up the tobacco at was a shop downtown. I know of at least 2 shops downtown, but the cost of parking downtown combined with the hassle and cold from walking around make it not worth it to me. There's a shop by my parents that I've been to a few times when the wife and I head back there, but we don't go very often; I rarely get the opportunity even when we do.

If anyone knows a good shop in Cincinnati, please let me know. I live in St. Bernard so a fairly central place that has a easy parking would be awesome.

Young Blacksmith
02-15-2012, 13:01
Just like bourbon, pipes and tobacco can be ordered from the net!

www.pipesandcigars.com
www.smokingpipes.com
www.4noggins.com

are just a sampling of my favorite retailers. Where I live I'm lucky to have a cigar store. I'm a member there because of their lounge with wi-fi. If I need to get away from the family and do some high speed surfing that's where I go. I rarely buy stuff from them though, and they know it. They have special ordered a few things in for me in the last few months just to be nice to me I think.

ErichPryde
01-29-2013, 15:44
wow, had a LOT of posts since I was last here! It's good to see that people are contributing to this thread, and honestly, great to see there are some more pipers on the board!

Lots of good info here, now. For any of you who started smoking pipes recently (at this point, geologically speaking) I'd make another recommendation: If you started with aromatics and you LIKE smoking a pipe, you may want to consider picking up a second pipe for trying English tobacco. smoking both types from the same pipe can yield some very interesting and potentially undesirable results. It can be difficult to get the "ghost" of an english tobacco out of a pipe if it was dedicated to aromatics to begin with, and you may end up with a pipe that doesn't taste the same again without some serious reaming, salt & whiskey cleaning.

As far as smoking a pipe in doors, a delegated room with a HEPA filter works wonders. Pipe tobacco is way, way less acidic than cigar smoke and typically contains less chemical additives than cigarettes, so it tends to haunt a room less. But it can happen.

p_elliott
01-31-2013, 08:42
As far as smoking a pipe in doors, a delegated room with a HEPA filter works wonders. Pipe tobacco is way, way less acidic than cigar smoke and typically contains less chemical additives than cigarettes, so it tends to haunt a room less. But it can happen.

The first car I ever owned was obviously previously owned by a pipe smoker. I always though that car smelled good.

ErichPryde
01-31-2013, 16:56
I used to make a habit of smoking a small bowl of English tobacco while on my way to work in the evenings in the truck. My wife was none the wiser. (Don't tell her now!)

Bourbon Boiler
02-10-2013, 18:48
I've smoked cigars in the past and wanted to get into pipes because: 1. you can control the amount of tobacco you smoke at each session and 2. the tobacco is much cheaper than cigars. ...




Number one is what prompted me to buy my first pipe last month. So many times I'm in the mood for a good cigar, but I realize I'm really only in the mood for about a third of a good cigar. Now I'm looking for tobacco suggestions. I'm thinking I'll start with English as it seems to be more "cigar-esqe". Are there rules of thumb for matching cigar flavors to pipe tobacco flavors?

squire
02-10-2013, 19:13
Not really, stronger English or Balkin may be considered cigar like, however you can buy pipe tobacco blended especially for cigar smokers and some include cigar leaf.

Bourbon Boiler
03-03-2013, 18:51
I stated with Prince Albert last night, on the assumption that PA is to pipe smoking what Jim Beam is to bourbon drinking. It might be toward the bottom end of the quality spectrum, but it's available, inexpensive, and undoubtedly a "real" pipe experience, ie not a gimmik flavor.

I got what I was looking for, a decent taste similar to a cheap cigar, but a good ten minute smoke with a glass of bourbon instead of a forty minute investment. I think I'll stick with the pipe, I just need to figure out how to upgrade the tobacco eventually.

squire
03-03-2013, 19:07
Not a bad choice, these old traditional brands are still around for a reason.

Bourbon Boiler
03-03-2013, 19:17
Out of curiousity to anyone who might know, but are those traditional brands essentially unchanged over the years?

ErichPryde
03-03-2013, 19:57
Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Captain Black, many of the really big brands that contain a high percentage of burley, may be relatively unchanged over the long run. I can't say for sure. What I can tell you is, that tobacco blends DO change. The greatest recent example of this was a massive warehouse fire that burned up nearly every existing ounce of Syrian Latakia, which was used in a good number of English blends. Those blends either went away, or they used Cyprian Latakia, which does not have the same flavor, instead. It has taken years but Syrian Latakia has started showing back up in quantity in some blends.

Pipe tobacco is actually amazingly similar to whiskey in some ways. Some sellers of tobacco are rectifiers of a sort (like KBD, VW, or HW), and outsource their blends to different companies who are sourcing the same tobacco, but in many cases, from different places. he blends change with time, and many smokers will go well out of their way to find an older dunhill blend or sobraine. Other blends, that use Perique, have also changed over the years as the way in which that tobacco is made, has changed.

Although Carter Hall and Prince Albert MAY be the same, I doubt that they are exactly the same. even burley has changed over the last 30 years, I'm sure.

squire
03-03-2013, 20:11
To a great extent they are unchanged. The old Half and Half blend was created around 1910 and I was sitting in my office one afternoon smoking a bowl of it when an elderly friend dropped by. He said, "You're smoking Half and Half aren't you?" Yes, I said, "I thought so he replied, my Father smoked Half and Half". Bill was 83 when he made that comment.

BoozeTraveler
03-04-2013, 10:37
I've been a pipe smoker for 20+ years. The codger blends (nickname used in the pipe smoking forum world) are great smokes. I keep tubs of Prince Albert, Carter Hall and Sugar Barrel at hand at all times.

When I'm in the mood for a heavier smoke, I reach for a latakia-forward blend. Cornell & Diehl's DaVinci comes to mind, but most any English will do.

squire
03-04-2013, 18:54
Just cause we codgers walk slow doesn't mean we think slow.

Bourbon Boiler
03-04-2013, 19:28
Thanks for the answers everyone. I really don't need another vice hobby, but this is very intriguing.

Waiahi
04-01-2013, 22:55
Just as the rising price of Single Malt back in 2008 got me to enter the world of Bourbon...(What happened? Good Bourbon is almost as expensive nowadays!!!!), I recently picked up a pipe to try and save an increasingly expensive taste in cigars.

I'm a Champagne guy with a beer budget, and that seems to apply to all my vices!

I just can't stand cheap cigars, nor most cheap whiskeys. So I went to my local smoke shop and picked up some pouches of pipe weed.

So far....


...I'm really liking Borkum Riff's Bourbon Whiskey pipe tobacco. Goes great with Bourbon! (Ya think?) I had a bowl of it last night while drinking some WT101 Rye. I found out that I actually like the taste of pipe tobacco with Bourbon, Rye, Scotch and tequila better than with cigars!

I also got a 5 lbs. bag of Ohm silver pipe tobacco (a Kentucky Burley) - which is really just RYO cigarette tobacco, cut wider to avoid cigarette tax rates...but it's still a decent tobacco smoke.

Here's the deal though, I also got a couple of oz. of Black Cavendish, which is great on it's own, but I think works better blending it with the Ohm RYO. The Ohm has more nicotine than the Black Cav, but mixing the too, I get the Cav taste with the Burley nic kick.

I have yet to try any of the english blends, but from what I heard (echoed in this thread), one shouldn't use it in a pipe other than one dedicated to only english tobacco as the flavoring will overpower aromatics.

I also picked up an oz. of CAO's cherry bomb...a vanilla/cherry flavored pipe weed. I like that one too, but to me, it's more like a dessert smoke rather than something I'd enjoy while drinking.

I dunno, I really like robust, strong cigars like Partagas, Padron and Casa Magna, but I'm finding the milder, sweet pipe tobaccos quite enjoyable.

I just bought a $25 Medico straight stem pipe to start with. I'll have to wait until my next pay day to grab another pipe and give those english blends a tryout.

TheNovaMan
04-02-2013, 17:39
You might consider buying a corn cob pipe or two so you can get into some different tobaccos sooner. People who know will tell you cobs smoke wonderfully. Just make sure it's a real Missouri Meerschaum, not a worthless Chinese knock-off.

sirpuddingfoot
04-03-2013, 09:33
I'd also recommend going for an "estate" pipe unless you don't have any issues building a cake over 50 bowls, or you can't stand the thought of putting your mouth on a used stem. You can get some great pipes for a small fraction of the cost. Many shops will ream out estate pipes thoroughly, but they'll still build up a nice cake much faster so you can get a nice cool smoking 20-30 minute bowl.

Beyond that, like bourbon, pipe tobacco and pipe styles are almost entirely personal preference.

As far as english tobaccos go, I think McClelland Dark English (this was my Grandpa's preferred smoke) is an excellent introduction to Latakia blends.

Bourbon Boiler
07-07-2013, 18:56
Lots of good, quick estate deals on Ebay. You might do better price-wise on your own hunting, but even after shipping you should be able to find something decent for less than $15 or so.

Clavius
07-10-2013, 20:37
Hey guys, ordered two Missouri Meerschaum "Diplomat" corn cob pipes and they arrived today:

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a569/Clavius85/Pipe/IMG_2383_zps679d5de2.jpg

Also got some Medico filters. Now I just need to decide what type of tobacco to use for my first attempt at smoking a pipe...

Clavius
07-11-2013, 12:24
Smoked two bowls of cheapo Captain Black white pouch last night. Not bad stuff but I had to keep doing relights. Picked up some Captain Black gold pouch today along with some Borkum Riff Bourbon Whiskey (heh).

bllygthrd
07-11-2013, 16:42
I like English pipe tobaccos ... Samuel Gawith - Squadron Leader, Dunhill - My Mixture 965 and Ashton - Artisan's Blend ... yum. But, that's my current taste ...

BTW ... enjoy your new pipes!

Clavius
07-11-2013, 16:58
I like English pipe tobaccos ... Samuel Gawith - Squadron Leader, Dunhill - My Mixture 965 and Ashton - Artisan's Blend ... yum. But, that's my current taste ...

BTW ... enjoy your new pipes!

I just ordered some tobaccos from pipesandcigars.com. I got 2oz of Lane 1-Q, and a tin each of Dunhill Nightcap and Mixture 965. Looking forward to trying something other than Captain Black and Borkum Riff.

Kalessin
07-11-2013, 21:52
I'm glad you're branching out! While I no longer smoke regularly (I have a cigar or smoke a pipe perhaps once every two years), the mass-market blends are mostly just... blah.

Have you considered visiting a tobacconist, as in the kind that can blend pipe tobacco for their customers?

If you were up here around Boston, I'd recommend a trip to L.J. Peretti (http://www.ljperetti.com), right next to Boston Common. They're 140 years worth of old-school custom blending, full-service tobacconist. They'll work with you to find exactly what's to your taste. Unfortunately, a quick search on the net doesn't turn any outstanding stores in Lexington KY, though if Florence isn't too far, Straus Tobacconist might be okay. Sadly, I'm not too good with the geography out your way.

Unfortunately, it looks like pipes and tobacco are really out of fashion compared to cigars, and many of the good old stores are fading away.

Clavius
07-11-2013, 22:15
I'm glad you're branching out! While I no longer smoke regularly (I have a cigar or smoke a pipe perhaps once every two years), the mass-market blends are mostly just... blah.

Have you considered visiting a tobacconist, as in the kind that can blend pipe tobacco for their customers?

If you were up here around Boston, I'd recommend a trip to L.J. Peretti (http://www.ljperetti.com), right next to Boston Common. They're 140 years worth of old-school custom blending, full-service tobacconist. They'll work with you to find exactly what's to your taste. Unfortunately, a quick search on the net doesn't turn any outstanding stores in Lexington KY, though if Florence isn't too far, Straus Tobacconist might be okay. Sadly, I'm not too good with the geography out your way.

Unfortunately, it looks like pipes and tobacco are really out of fashion compared to cigars, and many of the good old stores are fading away.
Thanks Kalessin. To be honest I'm kind of intimidated to walk into a tobacconist regarding pipe tobacco. Cigars are different because I think I have a decent knowledge of them. I know next to nothing about pipe tobacco!

bllygthrd
07-12-2013, 18:29
Thanks Kalessin. To be honest I'm kind of intimidated to walk into a tobacconist regarding pipe tobacco. Cigars are different because I think I have a decent knowledge of them. I know next to nothing about pipe tobacco!

Tobacconist's love fresh fish that want to learn ... they become loyal customers.

squire
07-12-2013, 19:01
Another vote for the Peretti shop.

TheNovaMan
07-12-2013, 19:22
Smoked two bowls of cheapo Captain Black white pouch last night. Not bad stuff but I had to keep doing relights. Sometimes you have to let the tobacco dry out a little for it to smoke nicely.

Kalessin
07-15-2013, 14:53
Thanks Kalessin. To be honest I'm kind of intimidated to walk into a tobacconist regarding pipe tobacco. Cigars are different because I think I have a decent knowledge of them. I know next to nothing about pipe tobacco!

You have a great "in" already; visit a full-service tobacconist and start talking cigars, then say you've become interested in pipes and tobacco.

I originally learned a little about pipe tobacco because my father and late grandfather were pipe smokers. Back in the 1970's my grandfather used to take a very young me to a shop where his own blend of cavendish was made to order; it included raspberry, vanilla and whiskey flavorings. We would get invited into the blending room in back where we'd watch the store owner mix it for him. It was a highly flavored, very 1970's style blend. Much later on, I discovered my own tastes when I was quitting cigarettes.

I found I like big, bold blends. A legendary tinned blend called Balkan Sobranie Original Mixture was still available at the time; it's almost exactly the pipe tobacco version of Stitzel-Weller: a long-closed producer, components that are just no longer available, and people hunt little old shops for tins and pay huge amounts for it in the aftermarket.

Bourbon Boiler
07-15-2013, 16:27
Thanks Kalessin. To be honest I'm kind of intimidated to walk into a tobacconist regarding pipe tobacco. Cigars are different because I think I have a decent knowledge of them. I know next to nothing about pipe tobacco!

Much like the bourbon isle, I think a tobacconist's shop is full of people who talk about the Emporer's fancy new clothes. Everyone thinks they are the only one there who doesn't know that much. As others have said, let the guy behind the counter help you, and if he can relate certain flavors to cigars you know, all the easier for him.

Clavius
07-15-2013, 21:03
Just opened my order from PipesandCigars.com. I ordered a tin each of Dunhill Mixture 965 and Nightcap along with 2oz of Lane 1-Q. The 1-Q smells great as I thought it would and I can't wait to try it. However, I just opened the tin of Mixture 965 and holy crap does this smell smokey! A lot like an Islay single malt! Same goes with the Nightcap though it's a little more subdued.

Variable
07-16-2013, 07:54
Just opened my order from PipesandCigars.com. I ordered a tin each of Dunhill Mixture 965 and Nightcap along with 2oz of Lane 1-Q. The 1-Q smells great as I thought it would and I can't wait to try it. However, I just opened the tin of Mixture 965 and holy crap does this smell smokey! A lot like an Islay single malt! Same goes with the Nightcap though it's a little more subdued.

Yeah the smell of Latakia might come as a surprise to some. Especially if you are expecting some kind of heavily cased aromatic blend. Dig in and see how you like it. If you don't like it, there are plenty others to explore!

Kalessin
07-16-2013, 20:14
I can't wait to hear the results from the order... :-)

While you're sampling, I might as well add: Right now it's high summer, and the thick, heavy blends are probably going to be a bit too much to take. Winter is when I tend to really want to light a pipe with one of the heavy latakia blends; right now I have no urge to smoke anything, though I might consider a light mild tobacco. Wait for cooler weather for the heavy stuff, especially if you're limited to smoking outdoors (as I am).

Young Blacksmith
07-17-2013, 07:33
I really like virginia and va/per blends, but in the summer it's all I can smoke. No heavy aromatics or latakia blends in the summer at all, and burley just doesn't taste right to me.

Orlik Golden Sliced and Dunhill DeLuxe Navy Rolls are two of my favorite summer blends. And right now Pipes and Cigars have them on sale! (no affiliation, except a happy customer)

Clavius
07-17-2013, 08:17
So far I've tried the Lane 1-Q and the Dunhill Mixture 965. Haven't gotten to the Dunhill Nightcap yet. I found the 1-Q to be similar to Captain Black white, but better. And the Mixture 965 reminds me of a robust cigar. Sorry, that's as detailed as I can get!

I think I will follow your advice guys, and leave the heavier stuff for later in the year when the weather is cooler.

bllygthrd
07-17-2013, 16:31
So far I've tried the Lane 1-Q and the Dunhill Mixture 965. Haven't gotten to the Dunhill Nightcap yet. I found the 1-Q to be similar to Captain Black white, but better. And the Mixture 965 reminds me of a robust cigar. Sorry, that's as detailed as I can get!

I think I will follow your advice guys, and leave the heavier stuff for later in the year when the weather is cooler.

Like with my bourbons, I keep a small log of the pipe tobaccos I try, and list the make-up ... if available. I've found that I like mixtures that contain Syrian Latakia and Perique tobaccos ... I love the stout and earthiness these tobaccos contribute to the flavor profile. I also recognize that my preferences have matured over time ... much like my tastes for bourbon, cigars and women! :lol: [actually, the same woman ... but she's matured!]

squire
07-18-2013, 11:01
1-Q is Captain Black, or near enough. Dunhill's My Mixture 965 was so named because it was the favorite of Alfred Dunhill himself.

Clavius
07-18-2013, 13:50
1-Q is Captain Black, or near enough. Dunhill's My Mixture 965 was so named because it was the favorite of Alfred Dunhill himself.

Squire, I've read that while researching pipe tobaccos. I think they're very similar indeed. But the 1-Q has got to be at least a little bit higher quality, imo.

On a side note I think I hijacked VoL's thread. My apologies!

squire
07-18-2013, 13:52
It is higher quality, I should've added that.

TheNovaMan
07-18-2013, 22:19
Is it the same casings on higher quality tobacco?

Young Blacksmith
07-19-2013, 05:56
Same casings on similar tobacco, just without the extra dose of Propylene Glycol to keep it fresh in a pouch for longer periods on a shelf. Still has it, just in lesser amounts.

squire
07-19-2013, 07:16
In short Pete, it's a better version.

TheNovaMan
07-19-2013, 16:30
Thanks for clarifying :)