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Tony
09-02-2010, 12:54
Howdy All:

I hope you are doing great.

I am still new into Bourbon and learning. I started about a year ago and had a buddy come over and educate me. One of the bottles I had was Bookers and he said it would last me forever because it was so high proof that I would not be drinking a lot of it.

Fast forward to last week, a friend buys me a bottle of Bookers and I figure I should finish off the other bottle. I get myself a nice cigar and fill my glass with some Bookers and a couple of ice cubes to cut it a bit and cool it down for my time outside in the warm weather. It was really a wonderful drink, I did not feel at all that it was "too strong".

Learn something new everyday I guess.

Best regards, tony

cigarnv
09-02-2010, 13:11
Bookers is spoken about from time to time on SB..... most seem to visit this old standby now and then. I have always found it to be a solid pour that is found in most higher end restaurants.... where I was introduced to it in my early bourbon days. It is priced close to $60 in Virginia so it is no bargain. Also it has a fair amount of competition these days in the $50-70 range....

OscarV
09-02-2010, 13:26
I haven't had any Booker's for a few years, maybe 2005, would like to try it again but from what I remember the 58 bucks could be spent better else where.

nor02lei
09-02-2010, 15:19
I haven't had any Booker's for a few years, maybe 2005, would like to try it again but from what I remember the 58 bucks could be spent better else where.

I agree Oscar. I havenít had it for years ether for the same reasons as you and I have never bought a whole bottle, but it seem high time to give it a new chance.

Leif

Bourbon Boiler
09-02-2010, 16:19
Around here, it's essentially the only uncut & unfiltered bourbon you can find. Booker's was one of my favorites originally, now I pour from that bottle only occasionaly. If you're introducing bourbon to someone, Bookers is good to have around so the student can taste the difference between 121 proof and 95.

Res/st-or
09-02-2010, 18:07
I love Booker's.. It was the second bourbon I tried after beginning my love affair with of what I think of as real bourbon. The first bottle I tried was knob creek. Went out and bought a bottle KC the next day, walked out of the store, dropped it... Smashed like a melon on pavement.

Dramiel McHinson
09-02-2010, 19:37
I finished one Bookers and have another in the bunker on standby. I like Bookers myself. The recent bottles have been very flavorful and the high proof remains fairly smooth. As far as price goes, I guess it's all relative to one's own budget-to-taste ratio. Nothing burns my butt-cheeks more than a $100 bourbon with a $25 taste. On the reverse side of that is Nirvana calling to me.

spy247
09-02-2010, 20:13
Bookers is a great pour, I always keep one on hand. Although I do prefer Knob Creek over Bookers, availability here down here is an issue.

I've also seen it in two different proofs here. Anyone know the story behind this ?

matthew0715
09-02-2010, 22:58
I've also seen it in two different proofs here. Anyone know the story behind this ?

While not single barrel, Booker's is small batch, and since it is uncut, there will be variations in proof from batch to batch. One batch was up to 131 proof, but 121-127 is more typical.

FYI, Pennsylvania State Stores have it on sale this month for $42.99 (plus 6% sales tax), much more reasonable than the $50-60 some other places have it at.

TBC
09-02-2010, 23:14
It's one of my favorites and luckily, the price here has dipped as well, it's been floating around the $45 - $50 range, which is fine with me.

ratcheer
09-03-2010, 04:30
I agree with most of the above. Booker's is an excellent whiskey. Hard to afford, but delicious.

Tim

unclebunk
09-03-2010, 07:29
Haven't hit from my bottle of Bookers in quite some time but will do so tonight, as we are experiencing a wonderful and well-needed break from the heat for the next few days and Bookers was always a favorite for me on autumnal evenings.

Virus_Of_Life
09-03-2010, 09:03
Bookers is what got me started and opened my eyes to what bourbon could offer. I'd been a Knob Creek only drinker for a while and then about 10 years ago got a bottle of Booker's as a gift, my friend and I loved the heat and flavor (later I discovered Stagg and all hell broke loose).

I think I have about 4 bottles in the house right now; one, the Commemorative Edition will never be opened, one is just sitting with the rest of the SBC in the display case and then I have two old bottles both batches from the 80s I believe. I may pop the top on one of those older bottles at my wedding.

Bourbon Boiler
09-03-2010, 20:32
This thread inspired me to have a small pour this evening. After a large relaxing pour of ETL, this is waking me up.

jburlowski
09-04-2010, 06:13
Bookers gets my vote for the most overpriced bourbon on the market. For me, its just not that good. When it was the only barrel-proof around it had some cachet. But now there as so many better (and better-priced) alternatives. The world has passed it by.

ebo
09-04-2010, 06:45
I like Bookers, and I have a couple of bottles, but I would rather pay $31.00 for WTRB as opposed to $50.00 for the Bookers. It isn't that Bookers isn't good, it's just too much money for something that isn't any better, in my opinion.

ILLfarmboy
09-04-2010, 08:15
I like Bookers. But it has been a while since I've had any, partly because of the summer heat, and partly because, well, there are just so many other great bourbons and ryes.

I usually can get Bookers for 45 or 46 dollars at Sam's Club. They could ditch the wooden box and it would shave a little of the price tag and it wouldn't hurt my feelings.

I think I'll make it a point to open a bottle this weekend. I may even use it in place of vanilla extract when I make my home-made Ice cream tomorrow.

OscarV
09-04-2010, 08:40
I may even use it in place of vanilla extract when I make my home-made Ice cream tomorrow.

You Damn Yankee, you makin' home made ice cream and didn't invite this hillbilly over?!?!?:grin:
BTW, my Grandfather would pour a can of cling peaches in his, banana is my favorite.

DeanSheen
09-04-2010, 09:53
Bookers is something I'll only buy when I'm out if there is nothing else at the bar I feel like drinking.

Josh
09-04-2010, 10:48
Bookers gets my vote for the most overpriced bourbon on the market. For me, its just not that good. When it was the only barrel-proof around it had some cachet. But now there as so many better (and better-priced) alternatives. The world has passed it by.

Well said.

A suggestion to the folks at Beam: Do something else to Booker's. Make it single barrel or give it a two-digit age statement or something like that. George Garvin Brown has a great whiskey dedicated to him. Parker Beam, Jimmy Russell, Jim Rutledge, Elmer T. Lee, all have great whiskeys and they're not even dead yet. Honor Booker Noe's memory as one of America's great whiskeymen by bringing his namesake back to the cutting edge.

OscarV
09-04-2010, 11:04
Bookers gets my vote for the most overpriced bourbon on the market. For me, its just not that good. When it was the only barrel-proof around it had some cachet. But now there as so many better (and better-priced) alternatives. The world has passed it by.




Well said.

A suggestion to the folks at Beam: Do something else to Booker's. Make it single barrel or give it a two-digit age statement or something like that. George Garvin Brown has a great whiskey dedicated to him. Parker Beam, Jimmy Russell, Jim Rutledge, Elmer T. Lee, all have great whiskeys and they're not even dead yet. Honor Booker Noe's memory as one of America's great whiskeymen by bringing his namesake back to the cutting edge.



Hear Hear!
When ya get right down to it, Booker's just doesn't taste that good.

Bourbon Boiler
09-04-2010, 11:41
Well said.

A suggestion to the folks at Beam: Do something else to Booker's. Make it single barrel or give it a two-digit age statement or something like that. George Garvin Brown has a great whiskey dedicated to him. Parker Beam, Jimmy Russell, Jim Rutledge, Elmer T. Lee, all have great whiskeys and they're not even dead yet. Honor Booker Noe's memory as one of America's great whiskeymen by bringing his namesake back to the cutting edge.


They could give it a longer age, and call it Booker's Select, Booker's Favorite, Booker's Whatever. I agree that Booker should have a better bourbon with his name. But the current Booker's doesn't need to go away.

FWIW, his name is on the most expensive and perhaps best bourbon that is available and on display in the most liquor shops and supermarkets. That doesn't mean much to avid bourbon drinkers like ourselves, but it does to the casual drinker.

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if I asked my friends to identify the type of drink, they'd know Booker's was bourbon and stare blankly when asked about Russ Reserve, Elmer T. Lee, or Blanton's.

OscarV
09-04-2010, 12:37
Booker's Bourbon is a great image builder for Beam, it does display well in a store and a good intro for someone who wants get to know bourbon better after Jack, Jim and Maker's.
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.

TBC
09-04-2010, 12:42
Booker's Bourbon is a great image builder for Beam, it does display well in a store and a good intro for someone who wants get to know bourbon better after Jack, Jim and Maker's.
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.

Hmmm, agree. It's the first top shelf Bourbon I've tried, still remember the day too. My love afair with Booker's is constant, and that's not a bad thing ( to me ).

ILLfarmboy
09-04-2010, 13:14
Probably the best thing that can be done for Bookers is already ageing in Beam's wharehouses. Some time ago Chuck informed us that Beam started distilling to brand and that the distilate that will become Bookers is coming off at 125. If I recal the time frame correctly, we've got another six and a half to seven years to wait.

A double digit age statement? Why over-age a whiskey that isn't particularly high in cogeners and fusil oils.

Maybe I'm prejudice. I'd rather not see NAS bottling on the one end and over-aged over oaked whiskeys on the other, with fewer and fewer median age (6-8 year olds) to choose from.

Oscar, you're welcome to some ice cream, if you don't have any hang-ups about raw eggs and unpasteurized dairy. I picked up 10 gallons of milk this morning.....they're in the fridge, I'm .....Just waitin' for the cream to rise. It should be good and ready by late morning tomorrow. (I need a small cream centrifuge) I even have several vanilla bean pods that I'll split and scrape down adding all of those flavorful specks. I'm quite proud of my home made ice cream. Everyone who tries it, loves it.

Bourbon Boiler
09-04-2010, 15:11
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.


Very good point and analogy.

OscarV
09-04-2010, 16:50
Oscar, you're welcome to some ice cream, if you don't have any hang-ups about raw eggs and unpasteurized dairy. I picked up 10 gallons of milk this morning.....they're in the fridge, I'm .....Just waitin' for the cream to rise. It should be good and ready by late morning tomorrow. (I need a small cream centrifuge) I even have several vanilla bean pods that I'll split and scrape down adding all of those flavorful specks. I'm quite proud of my home made ice cream. Everyone who tries it, loves it.

My recipe calls for raw eggs also and condensed milk, whipping cream, vanilla, sugar, fruit(mashed bananas are my favoriye, 2nd is strawberries) and top off the measure with whole milk.
The only draw back is that it doesn't keep well, it seems to spoil in the freezer as soon as the next day, so ya gotta eat it all up the day it's made. But that's not a problem.:)

cigarnv
09-04-2010, 18:02
I would gather that Booker's may possibly outsell all the other barrel proofs combined...... if that is the case and I was Beam I wouldn't change anything....

rocky480
09-04-2010, 18:48
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.

I think that is a great analogy for Booker's. My experience with it is that I thought it was the best of the best before I got a little real education on bourbon. Ironically, I never really enjoyed it because it always came off as way too hot for me, even when I cut it with water. The bottle I currently have open (about one pour left in it) is pretty flat and unimpressive, and I might bring myself to finish it off tonight to clear out the space. I'll give it a shot again, but it's not something I'll be in a hurry to get.

As far as Beam is concerned, as others have posted, I'd guess they're pretty happy with Booker's as it is. A bourbon enthusiast would know better, but the average consumer probably thinks (like I used to) that it is one of the best bourbons around. For example, a good friend of mine got married three years ago, and he had to have a bottle of Booker's on the bar for his guests. There were more than a few at the wedding that thought it was the best bourbon you could buy and probably still think that way. After all, Booker's is a barrel proof product, it comes from Beam, it carries a high, but not too high price tag, everybody knows Beam makes the top selling bourbon in the world, so it must be the best bourbon around. None of this is meant to be a knock on Beam. I just wish they would do more for the market that reads and posts on this board than they currently do. I also think they get some credit for introducing people to something other than Maker's and Beam white label. I doubt that I'd be a member here today if it weren't for products like Knob Creek and Booker's.

Mike

cigarnv
09-05-2010, 03:52
I find Bookers does vary from lot to lot with some being very good and others so-so. I am currently drinking on a lot I found some years back and bunkered up on that to my palate is very good.... it was also about $32 back then if I recall properly.

B95-C31 7 years 9 months 126.7 Proof

gblick
09-05-2010, 19:13
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.Where does that put OGD114?

OscarV
09-05-2010, 19:40
Booker's is probably to Beam what the Corvette is to Chevrolet.


Where does that put OGD114?

I would say the Impala SS.
Like OGD 114 the Impala SS has some kick and is good enough to keep you level.

OscarV
09-05-2010, 19:59
I agree Oscar. I havenít had it for years ether for the same reasons as you and I have never bought a whole bottle, but it seem high time to give it a new chance.

Leif

You know, I have not considered it until now that you mentioned it, I just might pick one up one of these days.

OscarV
09-07-2010, 14:37
My recipe calls for raw eggs also and condensed milk, EDIT->half-n-half<-EDIT, vanilla, sugar, fruit(mashed bananas are my favoriye, 2nd is strawberries) and top off the measure with whole milk.
The only draw back is that it doesn't keep well, it seems to spoil in the freezer as soon as the next day, so ya gotta eat it all up the day it's made. But that's not a problem.:)

Half-n-Half?
WTF was I thinking, that should be Whipping Cream, whip it up with the eggs.
Is there a proof reader button to click on?

camduncan
09-07-2010, 16:07
Half-n-Half?
WTF was I thinking, that should be Whipping Cream, whip it up with the eggs.
Is there a proof reader button to click on?

Consider it changed Oscar :grin:

squire
12-18-2010, 13:38
Bookers was the favorite of a late friend of mine so I kept a bottle available for when he came by to visit. We shared Bookers for years and my impression never changed from the first sip, which is to say the Beam profile only more so. I once dubbed it Beam with a college education.

imbibehour
12-18-2010, 14:10
My personal feeling is that it is too much for what it offers. I'd spend my money elsewhere but that's just me. I like the coffin it sits in :drinking: