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OscarV
09-25-2010, 05:45
We are a couple of days into Autumn and this morning here in MI it feels like it so let's kick off a new thread for the season.

Not drinking any bourbon this morning but I plan to this afternoon, it's been eight days since I had a sip so I am already thinking about what to open.
I'm leaning towards Old Weller Antique 107 Cork 'N Bottle selection but the question is should I go for their #39 or #40 bottle?
Suggestions would be appreciated.

jburlowski
09-25-2010, 05:48
Do the #79.... try some of each.

OscarV
09-25-2010, 06:36
Good idea John, is it noon yet?

fishnbowljoe
09-25-2010, 08:23
Went out to dinner with friends last night. We tried a new Mexican place. Had a couple of kick ass margaritas with dinner. We then went over to our friend's house for a while. Had some Beam Black and Coke while sitting around a blazing fire pit. Good times. :grin: Joe

rocky480
09-25-2010, 08:52
After taking just a little taste when it arrived, a larger pour of Weller 12 was in order last night. Hmmmm.... Perhaps I should have purchased more.

George
09-25-2010, 12:11
Having a pour of FR Yellow.

spun_cookie
09-25-2010, 12:28
Working on some tastes of 17yr old juice. The nose on this juice is bold. So much brown sugar and candied spices. The taste has that feeling of an old time candy shop where they are making the fudge fresh. Raw vanilla and sugars cooking into a wonderful dish. Best taken in small sips/bites to allow for the complexity to coat the tongue and bring forth the chefís intentions. Finish is long and morphing from brown sugar to raw vanilla with a touch of a dryer oak that leaves the mouth feeling fresh ready for the next tender morsel.

tommyboy38
09-25-2010, 12:34
I was also enjoying a few pours around the fire yesterday evening. I had anything from Saz and VWFRR to Old Charter 7 and Dickel #8 and some ORVW 10/107. It was a fine fall evening with some fine whiskey.

spun_cookie
09-25-2010, 12:39
Well, the first was so much fun, I thought I would pour another for some fun. Hell, its after noon and a late start for my Brothaí OH. The nose on this one is strait vanilla from the outset of the pour. Some good swirls bring in the molasses to make the brown sugar that begins to dominate. Swirling this baby brings more of the vanilla forward. Whoo baby I would like to crawl in to this glass (or a tub of it). At 133ish proof, the alc is just the platform that brings that beautiful nose to the rim of the glass. A couple min in now and there is some dryer oak that feels appealing to rather that a deterrent. MmmmÖ that dryness in the oak gives a taste of milk chocolate in the taste followed by the vanilla and brown sugar. This likes to run around my mouth. Creamy almost hiding all of the proofÖ and the finish has some simi sweet to mild flow that gives way to the brown sugar and then the burn vanilla sugar crystals of a classic wheater that I love so much. Yup, I like it.

cigarnv
09-25-2010, 13:18
Doing a bit of afternoon sipping with a revisit to a 17yo Willets wheater that has now been open for a bit. Coming in at 135.5 proof it is a caramel bomb witha rich velvet mouth feel. Big proof, low heat... a very dangerous combination. This bottle is the 8th in the 17yo wheater lineup I have tasted and clearly falls among the best.. top notch juice that is far to easy to drink.....

Josh
09-25-2010, 17:25
Tonight I'm enjoying some Binny's OBSK with one ice cube (a serving suggestion from Tony). Damn this is good. I think its as good as the 120th anniversary bottle. But what do I know?

nor02lei
09-26-2010, 01:12
I just had a OGD 114 late last night after visiting my beer club bar. It tasted good as usal.

Leif

OscarV
09-26-2010, 03:34
Yesterday Old Weller Antique 107 C 'n B selection #39.
I had mine neat but tried something my wife came up with, Bourbon Champagne Cocktail.

Make simple syrup, 1/2 cup sugar, 1/2 cup water, 1/2 vanilla bean pod.
Had no beans so we added a 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract.
Pour into a chilled champagne flute a shot bourbon, 2 tablespoons of the vanilla syrup mix and fill to the top with champagne.

It was awful, way to much vanilla, the bourbon and champage just did not mix well or should I say compliment each other.
My wife had 3 she liked it, I had several OWA's neat.

cigarnv
09-26-2010, 04:19
Tonight I'm enjoying some Binny's OBSK with one ice cube (a serving suggestion from Tony). Damn this is good. I think its as good as the 120th anniversary bottle. But what do I know?

Josh, sounds like a great bottle.... what proof is it and what was the distill date? Thanks

jburlowski
09-26-2010, 04:45
Went to a tasting at the Party Source that featured all ten of the FR SB variants. Finished the evening with a healthy pour of 2009 FR Mariage.

OscarV
09-26-2010, 04:59
Tonight I'm enjoying some Binny's OBSK with one ice cube (a serving suggestion from Tony). Damn this is good. I think its as good as the 120th anniversary bottle. But what do I know?

Sounds like you know the roses. I love that bottle.


Josh, sounds like a great bottle.... what proof is it and what was the distill date? Thanks

To butt in an answer, it was distilled 4-23-99, 121.2prf.
These Binny's bottles are absolutley the best you can get.
The OBSK (also used for the 1B 120th LE) and the OESO, 2-10-99 116.6 (also used for the 1B 40th LE) are what I like to call polar opposites and a couple of my all time favorites.


Went to a tasting at the Party Source that featured all ten of the FR SB variants. Finished the evening with a healthy pour of 2009 FR Mariage.

Yes, '09 Mariage is a great way to finish or start an evening.

cigarnv
09-26-2010, 05:34
Sounds like you know the roses. I love that bottle.



To butt in an answer, it was distilled 4-23-99, 121.2prf.
These Binny's bottles are absolutley the best you can get.
The OBSK (also used for the 1B 120th LE) and the OESO, 2-10-99 116.6 (also used for the 1B 40th LE) are what I like to call polar opposites and a couple of my all time favorites.



Yes, '09 Mariage is a great way to finish or start an evening.

Oscar, I appreciate the input as we will be there this week tasting barrels and I am partial to the OBSK... especially anything that approaches the 120th taste and style. Thanks....

unclebunk
09-26-2010, 09:13
Had a few pours of VOB 90 while watching the Alabama/Arkansas game yesterday. Nectar!

OscarV
09-26-2010, 10:51
I'm living the high life with no guilt.
'Cuz I'm drinkin' 4R1B 40th LE, neat.

BourbonJoe
09-26-2010, 11:07
You're havin too much fun Oscar.
Joe :usflag:

DeanSheen
09-26-2010, 11:24
A little RITT BIB with some football.

This bottle is nice and spicy and I'm not getting any of the green apple I got from previous purchases.

OscarV
09-26-2010, 11:28
I'm not getting any of the green apple I got from previous purchases.

Is that a good thing?
I would think some green apple would be good.

DeanSheen
09-26-2010, 11:53
Yeah, green apple isn't bad but my suspect memory is telling me that the green apple bottlings were not as spicy as this one is.

Right now, I'm liking the spice more than the extra dimension of the flavor.

SBOmarc
09-26-2010, 12:20
No green apple in the bottle that I am currently sipping from. I have however caught that taste in Ritt before.

cigarnv
09-26-2010, 13:01
I tend to find that sweet grannie smith apple flavor in the EC18..... some that I find to be the better ones...

birdman1099
09-26-2010, 13:32
So far.....

Johnny Drum 15
R&E Willet 17 133 proof

Depending on how the Colts do, I may post a few more times here.:skep:

nor02lei
09-26-2010, 13:56
WT 12 export before dinner and Pappy 15 with the hazelnut cake for dessert and as a nightcap. It was the last out of the Pappy and it was barely ok and not more than that. This brand has been out of the scene for a wile, but come back at a very higher price recently. I will not replace this bottle at that price.

Leif

OscarV
09-26-2010, 14:00
I opened up my 4R1B Cork 'N Bottle selection #13, a very good choice by Brian.
Not as sweet as the McScrooges selection but head and shoulders above other 1B.

Josh
09-26-2010, 14:33
To butt in an answer, it was distilled 4-23-99, 121.2prf.
These Binny's bottles are absolutley the best you can get.
The OBSK (also used for the 1B 120th LE) and the OESO, 2-10-99 116.6 (also used for the 1B 40th LE) are what I like to call polar opposites and a couple of my all time favorites.

What he said. Bottle #1 of 100 for what it's worth.:grin:

I've gone thru at least one of those C & B bottles too Oscar and they are just as you describe. I think I might even prefer that drier C & B over the sweeter McScrooge's, but both are great, "push-your-mother-down-the-stairs-for-a-bottle" kinda whiskeys.

gblick
09-26-2010, 15:04
Last night I saw Rush in concert with my best friend from elementary/junior high school (we first met around 1968, and just reconnected last weekend after not seeing each other since 1978). We were drinking dusty OWA, and I also had a vatting of Pappy 15 and ORVW 10/107 in a flask. A great time!

unclebunk
09-26-2010, 16:55
Last night I saw Rush in concert with my best friend from elementary/junior high school (we first met around 1968, and just reconnected last weekend after not seeing each other since 1978). We were drinking dusty OWA, and I also had a vatting of Pappy 15 and ORVW 10/107 in a flask. A great time!

That sounds like a perfect night all around--Rush concert with a long-lost friend and OWA to celebrate the occasion. Isn't doesn't get much better than that!

ILLfarmboy
09-26-2010, 19:40
More maker's 46 tonight. I didn't expect to like it as much as I do. I think after last night's several pours from this bottle, it has opened up a bit and has improved.

Vosgar
09-26-2010, 20:07
It's been a great weekend. Friday night my wife and I went to Ruth's Chris for our 32nd anniversary and I had an amazing filet and Blanton's. Saturday my brother-in-law invited us over for steaks and I brought with a flask of AAA. No steak today, but Pappy 15 and I are enjoying Sunday night football.

Gary

cigarnv
09-27-2010, 02:59
A few pours of 86.8 Turkey from 1984...... some of the best turkey I have had....

ggilbertva
09-27-2010, 04:34
Yesterday was a mix of various pours.

1978 Old Forester BIB
R&E 17 year wheater 144
Whistlepig
Green Spot Irish

All terrific whiskies.

cigarnv
09-27-2010, 05:44
Quite an eclectic mix there my friend.....

MissinER101
09-27-2010, 09:21
You guys are killin' me, been in Iraq 16 months now with only 2 trips home.....BUT when I get home in DEC George T and I have a date!!!!

ggilbertva
09-27-2010, 11:33
You guys are killin' me, been in Iraq 16 months now with only 2 trips home.....BUT when I get home in DEC George T and I have a date!!!!

I could have made it worse and posted pictures..... :grin:

SMOWK
09-27-2010, 12:36
You guys are killin' me, been in Iraq 16 months now with only 2 trips home.....

I don't think we're the ones you should be worried about killing you. :cool:

fishnbowljoe
09-27-2010, 15:15
Binny's Weller 12. I need one today. The power steering pump went out in my car. :smiley_acbt: Joe

CorvallisCracker
09-27-2010, 15:22
Binny's Weller 12. I need one today. The power steering pump went out in my car. :smiley_acbt: Joe

Real Men don't need power steering. :lol:

SMOWK
09-27-2010, 15:39
Binny's Weller 12. I need one today. The power steering pump went out in my car. :smiley_acbt: Joe


Real Men don't need power steering. :lol:

I'm still push-starting my Pinto. Now that I'm in for the evening, I think I'll reach for....ummm....Weller SR it is.

Josh
09-27-2010, 15:45
I cut the bottom off my Alero and I have been "Flintstoning" it ever since. The gas savings have been tremendous.

Oh and I'm drinking some 02 WTKS, some of which should be making its way to MN very soon...

spun_cookie
09-27-2010, 16:48
Hitting a little 17yr Old Willett 107 proof. What a mouth feel. There is so much in this that it is hard to describe. Everything you want out of a good bourbon. Cream, vanilla, balance, long complex finish and no burn. One hell of a good juice.... makes me want to go into the distillation biz....

SMOWK
09-27-2010, 16:55
OGDBIB 1.75L from 1997. Although I do not have a current bottle on hand (will change that soon), I really think this is different, in a good way, than the current stuff.

I swear, when they changed the bottle to add an actual handle, instead of the comfortable curved hand dimples, the whiskey changed with it. I've noticed a lot more spice and alcohol burn with the current stuff. This 1997 however; is delicious!

Josh
09-27-2010, 17:19
OGDBIB 1.75L from 1997. Although I do not have a current bottle on hand (will change that soon), I really think this is different, in a good way, than the current stuff.

I swear, when they changed the bottle to add an actual handle, instead of the comfortable curved hand dimples, the whiskey changed with it. I've noticed a lot more spice and alcohol burn with the current stuff. This 1997 however; is delicious!

I have a liter from a few years earlier and it is surprisingly good, considering how crummy some of the 86s from later are. The mouthfeel is really great. It's so thick and rich for an 86 proof whiskey. They must have still been putting some 414 juice into the mix at that point.

DeanSheen
09-27-2010, 17:41
Regular Weller 12.

It's been open for about a week now and it's really oxygenating well. I should have bought a case of 1.75's of this.

callmeox
09-27-2010, 18:00
Hitting a little 17yr Old Willett 107 proof. What a mouth feel. There is so much in this that it is hard to describe. Everything you want out of a good bourbon. Cream, vanilla, balance, long complex finish and no burn. One hell of a good juice.... makes me want to go into the distillation biz....

I feel like I'm listening to a commercial when you mention these expressions... :grin:

Gillman
09-27-2010, 18:33
I tried that Willett's 17, another generous taste from Randy. First class.

Gary

sailor22
09-27-2010, 19:18
I'm spending the evening with Pappy 10/107 -- yum.

nor02lei
09-27-2010, 22:23
I had Rittenhouse BIB before dinner and VWFRR-K and WRMCSO after. All tasted splendid. It was a wile since I had any older rye and it really seemed high time for this one that I took out of the bunker last night.

Leif

cigarnv
09-28-2010, 03:19
WTKS... 2008 bottling that is very good... rich, sweet front end, good spice, nice complexity and balance.... one of the better WTKS I have had as of late.....

birdman1099
09-28-2010, 04:59
Hitting a little 17yr Old Willett 107 proof. What a mouth feel. There is so much in this that it is hard to describe. Everything you want out of a good bourbon. Cream, vanilla, balance, long complex finish and no burn. One hell of a good juice.... makes me want to go into the distillation biz....

1) Was this bottled at 107, or 2) did you bring one down to 107?


If 1) Where the hell did it come from?:skep:

If 2) Which one did you water down?

cigarnv
09-28-2010, 05:10
144.....................

unclebunk
09-28-2010, 06:58
Hit the '08 PHC last night and sat out on the deck watching football. I'm glad I still have half a bottle of this left which I've been nursing along, one or two pours at a time to make it last.

OscarV
09-28-2010, 12:25
Evan Williams 10yo 1783, neat.
Good nose, the taste put me off at first but now I am enjoying it.

spun_cookie
09-28-2010, 14:28
144.....................

What he said :) its crazy at 107.

SMOWK
09-28-2010, 14:34
A bottle of Old Charter 8 from a while ago. I don't really know how long, but it has a worn away tax strip on it that I believe is fake due to the plastic cap.

It's good. Real oily and buttery.

fishnbowljoe
09-28-2010, 15:10
81 Old Forester BIB. Ahhhhh................... Joe

cigarnv
09-28-2010, 15:33
Getting into another Willets 17 yo wheater this evening from a friend who picked this barrel. This one is a 137.6 variation which exhibits beautiful color and a luscious nose of candy apple, vanilla and kettle corn... one that you can just smell all night and never taste. To the palate it is a bit hotter and drier than others I have tasted. A creme brulee crust type sweetness on the front end that hangs on until mid palate and then drifts off fairly quickly. A decent finish of dried fruit and wood. One of the more interesting variations in that the mouth feel is a bit more cleansing than coating and the sweet entry transitions fairly quickly.

I played with a bit of water but could not find a good sweet spot that dropped the heat and held the flavor..... one of the interesting aspects of this run of barrels..... most are very appealing at barrel proof but don't handle water well.

sailor22
09-28-2010, 17:32
Working on a 23 yr barrel strength Rye - "Rathskeller" - the house Rye for the Seelbach Hotel.
Probably from the same batch of juice Vintage 23 and BMH Rye come from but a single barrel at barrel strength.

Magic Juice. Crazy Good.

DeanSheen
09-28-2010, 18:18
Saz 18 - 2007

Pretty tasty, I'll probably follow it with some RITT BIB.

smokinjoe
09-28-2010, 19:04
As always, thoroughly enjoying an awesome pour of OGD 114, while as always, thoroughly enjoying watching "Caddyshack" for the probably the 114th time, on the Golf Channel.

bourduc
09-28-2010, 19:42
Knob Creek and WTRB...The KC just dried up and plan on picking up some more soon.

DeanSheen
09-28-2010, 20:56
I switched to some homemade BourEye. Equal parts Ritt BIB and Weller 107.

It's working out just fine and is an excellent accompaniment to watching some Mr. Kenny Powers.

CaptainQ
09-28-2010, 21:00
Current version of ETL, one of my favorites. I think I'll follow it up with a nice aged wheater from the bunker.

nor02lei
09-28-2010, 22:19
I had ETL before dinner last night, ORVW 10/107 2002 with the hazelnut cake for dessert and OGD 114 1981 as a night cap. The BT brand came out real short in this company for sure.

Leif

sgtgto
09-28-2010, 23:12
I had ETL before dinner last night, ORVW 10/107 2002 with the hazelnut cake for dessert and OGD 114 1981 as a night cap. The BT brand came out real short in this company for sure.

Leif

Is that the same kind of cake that you served my brother and I with a delicious pour of ORVW15?

nor02lei
09-29-2010, 00:58
Is that the same kind of cake that you served my brother and I with a delicious pour of ORVW15?

Yes it is Jake and I would say that this 10 year bottle is as least as good as the 15, if not better. By the way. I have seen that you have become a very successful dusty hunter.

Leif

unclebunk
09-29-2010, 06:44
Had a healthy pour of WT12 CGF last night and absolutely loved it. I found this bottle over a year ago and have only had two pours of it in an effort to make it last. There's a small date mark on it (12/04/91) and luckily the cork is still intact, as others have reported having an issue with CGF corks. The juice has a beautiful mouth-coating texture and displays a perfect balance of sweet and spice, which is why I love Wild Turkey products so much. I followed the CGF with a small pour of WT101 which was also tasty but thinner and slightly hotter, "like my women," as my friend always says.:lol:

ratcheer
09-29-2010, 06:50
The weather has finally cooled off some, here. So, late yesterday afternoon, I went out on my deck with a good book (Caesar by Colleen McCollough) and a large pour of Henry McKenna 10 year old single barrel BIB. It was wonderful!

Tim

OscarV
09-29-2010, 10:18
Van Winkle Special Reserve 12yo Lot B, neat.
And a Good Afternoon to you too.

SBOmarc
09-29-2010, 12:21
Oscar, If I didn't have to meet a series of potential clients in less than an hour, I would use this as justification to have a couple of sips.

Enjoy your afternoon.

unclebunk
09-29-2010, 12:28
The weather has finally cooled off some, here. So, late yesterday afternoon, I went out on my deck with a good book (Caesar by Colleen McCollough) and a large pour of Henry McKenna 10 year old single barrel BIB. It was wonderful!

Tim

Can't beat that, Tim. Sounds great! I've been meaning to check out Colleen McCollough for some time now. What do you think of the book?

nor02lei
09-29-2010, 13:46
:smiley_acbt:
Had a healthy pour of WT12 CGF last night and absolutely loved it. I found this bottle over a year ago and have only had two pours of it in an effort to make it last. There's a small date mark on it (12/04/91) and luckily the cork is still intact, as others have reported having an issue with CGF corks. The juice has a beautiful mouth-coating texture and displays a perfect balance of sweet and spice, which is why I love Wild Turkey products so much. I followed the CGF with a small pour of WT101 which was also tasty but thinner and slightly hotter, "like my women," as my friend always says.:lol:

I have just recently finished my first and only bottle of WT 12 gold folio (I think that is what you mean) and I did like it to. I found it to be in the smooth spectrum of WT and the dominating flavour (not at all overpowering) to be honey.

Leif

nor02lei
09-29-2010, 13:49
WT tradition and 101 from 1986 before dinner and a uncut HH bottled by Cadenheads 2005 after.

Leif

ratcheer
09-29-2010, 14:06
Can't beat that, Tim. Sounds great! I've been meaning to check out Colleen McCollough for some time now. What do you think of the book?

It is excellent. Her mastery of fiction is a given. It seems that she is also considered an expert on Caesar and ancient Rome. She has written at least three novels based on Caesar, all of which are available at my library.

Oddly, maybe, she was originally a neurophysiologist and established the leading such hospital in Australia.

Tim

OscarV
09-30-2010, 10:36
We are a couple of days into Autumn

I started this thread on September 25 with the word "Autumn" in the title.
Someone changed it to "Fall".
Which is OK with me, I feel that whoever had the power to change it to Fall over Autumn has a good reason.
I would just like to know what it is because maybe I'm not with the lastest jargon or it might have offended someone, like I said I just want to know for the heck of it.

On topic, Willett Reid & Emerald XVII-3 144prf, neat.

smokinjoe
09-30-2010, 11:06
I started this thread on September 25 with the word "Autumn" in the title.
Someone changed it to "Fall".
Which is OK with me, I feel that whoever had the power to change it to Fall over Autumn has a good reason.
I would just like to know what it is because maybe I'm not with the lastest jargon or it might have offended someone, like I said I just want to know for the heck of it.

On topic, Willett Reid & Emerald XVII-3 144prf, neat.

Haven't these threads for this time of year always been titled "Fall"?

Too early for bourbon now, so I'm sniffing the empty glass of the 2010 PHC from last night. To me, the 2010 passes the first year 122.6 as my favorite iteration, so far.

OscarV
09-30-2010, 11:24
Haven't these threads for this time of year always been titled "Fall"?





Really?
Just because "always"?

smokinjoe
09-30-2010, 13:34
Really?
Just because "always"?

I dunno...I'm just sayin'...

chilidawg7
09-30-2010, 14:10
Last night at the hotel bar I had a Knob Creek Old Fashioned. Good end to a long day.

ILLfarmboy
09-30-2010, 16:40
Last night it was a bit of 4RSB, tonight its Maker's 46.

I just picked up this bottle of Maker's 46 last Saturday and its more than half gone.

SBOmarc
09-30-2010, 18:56
WT 101. All by itself. In a nice heavy bottomed low ball.

Wacky weather in SoCal. Sipping and watching a nice sunset.

OscarV
09-30-2010, 19:00
I just picked up this bottle of Maker's 46 last Saturday and its more than half gone.



I went thru my M46 real fast too, it was fun no complaints.

DeanSheen
09-30-2010, 19:47
Weller 12 while catching up on some TV.

Weller 107 to follow.

kyrocklover
09-30-2010, 20:11
Tonight was one of the few nights that I could set outside and enjoy what is left of the late summer/early fall. Tonight was a night to relax and enjoy.

I picked out four bottles to sample and compare with no real end game in mind. I am not a professional taster and readily understand my taste is not what enthusiasts will note, but what the hell, they are my taste buds.

The four were MM, 4RsB, Wathens and Elijah Craig 12 YO. As I sampled each with no set agenda, I noticed this, the taste amoung the four varies greatly but yet not so greatly. I expect this is due to the similar proof.

Wathens is sweet on entry, mild mid-palate and slightly spice on end with a good finish. In all honesty, of the 100 or so bourbons that I have tasted, this really hits the spot and ranks in my top 5. If this was 100 proof, I would expect this would be my favorite by a long shot. Elijah Criaig is great. Nose, taste and finish are to be appreciated. 4RsB is much the same as EC 12YO with a different taste profile. MM brings up the end. Nose, taste and finish are good, but lack in longevity. While a good bourbon, it does leave me short in nose and taste.

As of tonight, I would rank these four.

1 Wathens
2.3 EC 12 YO, 4RsB
4 MM

nor02lei
10-01-2010, 04:32
I had white dog, 1 year and 9 years old MM at Stockholm beer and whisky festival yesterday. It was unfortunately at a very late hour and my taste buds were half asleep. The white dog did seem very neutral at 80 proof though. I did unfortunately have some OGD 114 on the late train back home as well after drinking all day.
Do I have to mention that I have a bad hangover today?

Leif

unclebunk
10-01-2010, 05:58
I did unfortunately have some OGD 114 on the late train back home as well after drinking all day.
Do I have to mention that I have a bad hangover today?

Leif

Okay. I have to ask, Leif. What is the Swedish "cure" for hangovers? We Americans tend to eat a greasy, fat-laden breakfast of some sort. I'm sure the Swedes have a variation on the same theme. Hope you feel better.:grin:

Josh
10-01-2010, 08:11
Okay. I have to ask, Leif. What is the Swedish "cure" for hangovers? We Americans tend to eat a greasy, fat-laden breakfast of some sort. I'm sure the Swedes have a variation on the same theme. Hope you feel better.:grin:

Something involving fermented fish, I would imagine!:grin:

SMOWK
10-01-2010, 08:28
Something involving fermented fish, I would imagine!:grin:

mmmmm...Lutefisk.

jburlowski
10-01-2010, 09:53
Last night it was AHH 16... cuz it's been a long time.

doubleblank
10-01-2010, 09:59
Last night Jeff and I went to Poison Girl. Had a Weller Centennial and FR 100th. Scott is down to his last bottle of Centennial.....damn.

Randy

PS Robin said to say "Hi" to all of her SB buddies. She hopes to have her bar open later this fall.

nor02lei
10-01-2010, 11:37
Okay. I have to ask, Leif. What is the Swedish "cure" for hangovers? We Americans tend to eat a greasy, fat-laden breakfast of some sort. I'm sure the Swedes have a variation on the same theme. Hope you feel better.:grin:

As we are, or at least were a bit of the vodka belt we have several methods or combinations of methods.
Drinking lots of water is the most common one and the one I use most myself.
The American fat food method would be the second most common one. I have never liked or used that one myself and hardly not even understood it.
Take strong painkiller with codeine or other likewise substance is another one that I sometimes used when I was young, but not anymore.
Sauna is another one. I donít like it much though and think it has rather the opposite effect.
To take an eye-opener is another one and it has a very bad reputation here. Most people would not admit to this one. I have never liked it myself. However one of our most famous sport stars ever Patrik SjŲberg with medals from 3 Olympics did claim in his peak that this is the unbeatable method.
At young age I did practice an uncommon method. We did challenge the hangover already the day before by taking salt medicine from the drugstore. It did work very well, but I havenít used it for decades now.
Exercise is another common method and my favourite together with the overdose of water. I did use it as late as today and it did work as usual.

Leif

nor02lei
10-01-2010, 15:39
Bulleit 90 proof and Blantonís silver before dinner. It was the last out of the Blantonís and it has changes a lot by oxidation over time. The nice refreshing orange peal taste from the beginning has diminished to a minimum over time and it became more and more uninteresting. I have replaced it with an uncut Blantonís though.
I did have the last out of my WT 12 export bottle with some very nice fruity dark chocolate that I brought home from the Stockholm beer and whisky festival yesterday. Real nice indeed and I have always considered WT to be a good chocolate whiskey.
OGD 114 as a nightcap right now.

Leif

SMOWK
10-01-2010, 17:25
Hanging on the back porch with Pappy 15 and a Onyx Torbusto. About to play some Texas Hold'em. Wish me luck!

smokinjoe
10-01-2010, 17:50
First fire in the outdoor fireplace, tonight. Listening to the Braves on the radio with pours of MM46, McScrooge's OWA NAS, and OGD 114. I like that top of the order. Still contemplating who's hittin' clean-up...

jburlowski
10-01-2010, 17:56
Savoring the new FR SmB 2010 LE. Posted my thoughts in the Premium forum. (Maybe I should have put it under Tasting... I'll let the mods decide.)

This is one I'm going to bunker!

SBOmarc
10-01-2010, 19:38
First fire in the outdoor fireplace, tonight. Listening to the Braves on the radio with pours of MM46, McScrooge's OWA NAS, and OGD 114. I like that top of the order. Still contemplating who's hittin' clean-up...

Ryan Howard...oops. Eagle Rare SB.

hectic1
10-01-2010, 20:08
1988 OGD BIB followed by Pappy 15...talk about opposite ends of the bourbon spectrum...:skep:

spun_cookie
10-02-2010, 00:21
Drove up to the Tahoe area to see my parental units and brought the RE 17-1 thru 3 and I forgot I had a bottle of the RE original. Poured all four and enjoyed them. In the end, the original RE may take the prize.

BuffaloLen
10-02-2010, 08:54
Me thinks I will tip a snifter of Eagle Rare backed up with bud light this afternoon :skep: ...coupled with a fine stick from the island south of miami. Cheerz.

IronHead
10-02-2010, 09:05
Last night I went with the latest RE 17 133.2, what a smooth pour. Then moved on to Binny's Weller 12.

gordymohr
10-02-2010, 11:20
Just picked up a bottle of Red Stag Black Cherry.

Interesting, lots of flavour, warms the gut!

nor02lei
10-02-2010, 13:46
The last out of my ETL bottle before dinner. I will not replace it, but it has grown a bit over time and I like the honey touch that I felt today.
Uncut 13 years HH bottled by Cadenheads after dinner and OGD114 as a nightcap right now.
Although the HH pour was powerful the Beam brand found the spot best tonight for sure.

Leif

unclebunk
10-03-2010, 10:50
We went with Blantons and FRSB last night. Both were excellent but most of the folks at the party raved about the Four Roses which I preferred as well.

OscarV
10-03-2010, 10:57
Last night we went with two different Elijah Craig 18yo, one a Binny's selection the other a Party Source.
Also Evan Williams Single Barrel 2005, Willetts 3yo Party Source selection and Jefferson's Presidential Select 18yo Julio's Liquors selection with the company of SB.com members Josh, Amy and our spouses and children in the mighty mighty 313.

SMOWK
10-03-2010, 11:03
Almost polished off an entire bottle of FRSB with a few friends last night.

FINALLY! I found a bottle of FR that I really liked. I usually don't drink on the rocks, but this stuff was outstanding with a few cubes in it. A little too hot and spicy neat. Maybe this was my problem all along...

How do you find out which recipe is in the single barrel? I sure wish they would put it on their FRSB label.

OscarV
10-03-2010, 11:12
Almost polished off an entire bottle of FRSB with a few friends last night.

FINALLY! I found a bottle of FR that I really liked. I usually don't drink on the rocks, but this stuff was outstanding with a few cubes in it. A little too hot and spicy neat. Maybe this was my problem all along...

How do you find out which recipe is in the single barrel? I sure wish they would put it on their FRSB label.

See post #22 in this thread,...

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13638&page=3

I never had 4R1B on the rocks until a couple of years ago when having lunch with Jim Rutledge after selecting a barrel, he ordered it that way and then so did I, yeah it's a whole new taste.

SMOWK
10-03-2010, 11:35
See post #22 in this thread,...

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13638&page=3

I know what the 10 recipes are, but on the 4R1B, it only lists the warehouse and barrel number. Is there any way to decipher from that?

callmeox
10-03-2010, 11:40
I know what the 10 recipes are, but on the 4R1B, it only lists the warehouse and barrel number. Is there any way to decipher from that?


If you locate the list of recipes in post #22, the bottlings that use them are listed as well.

The standard single barrel is always the same recipe.

SMOWK
10-03-2010, 11:43
Aha. I was never good at looking at charts. Thanks for the clarification guys. I'm always amazed at how fast information can be obtained from this site.

Josh
10-03-2010, 11:53
Almost polished off an entire bottle of FRSB with a few friends last night.

FINALLY! I found a bottle of FR that I really liked. I usually don't drink on the rocks, but this stuff was outstanding with a few cubes in it. A little too hot and spicy neat. Maybe this was my problem all along...



There's hope for you yet, SMOWK! :lol:

SMOWK
10-03-2010, 12:14
There's hope for you yet, SMOWK! :lol:

I Hope! :cool:

I'm a wheater at heart, but I'm starting to move outside the box. VWFRR helped me move to the other end of the spectrum. Slowly but surely, I'm filling in the blanks.

nor02lei
10-03-2010, 13:52
VWFRR-K before dinner, JDSS with the apple cake for dessert and WLW 2007 right now. All tasted splendid tonight!

Leif

Halifax
10-03-2010, 19:24
Ritt 80 & Baby Saz.

GOCOUGS2002
10-03-2010, 19:47
Old Fitz BIB while watching the Giants destory the Bears C-squad offensive line.

Luna56
10-03-2010, 21:39
It's a Booker's night. Nice way to take off the early autumn chill.

cigarnv
10-04-2010, 03:41
A few days in Kentucky with friends... poured way too many good bourbons... interesting that the highlight for me was a mid 70's Dickel 12 90 proof... rich, honey sweetness, velvet mouth feel, great finish..... elegant in all regards!! Thanks Timmy!!!!

nor02lei
10-05-2010, 02:21
I had Rittenhouse BIB before dinner yesterday and it was excellent. I like this one better and better. I did than try to get back to the rots by having calvados (Daron xo) with the apple cake for dessert as I used too many years ago before I discovered that bourbon and Tennessee was better. It didnít hit the spot at all, so I had a little pour of JDSS as well and that worked out much better.

Leif

nor02lei
10-05-2010, 02:28
A few days in Kentucky with friends... poured way too many good bourbons... interesting that the highlight for me was a mid 70's Dickel 12 90 proof... rich, honey sweetness, velvet mouth feel, great finish..... elegant in all regards!! Thanks Timmy!!!!

Very interesting indeed! I have seen these types of Dickel 12 and also Dickel 8 with 86 something proof in auctions several times. I will make a good bid next time for sure.

Leif

cigarnv
10-05-2010, 04:02
A small pour of Four Roses 120th .... still my favorite from this distiller....

unclebunk
10-05-2010, 06:37
Revisited the Blanton's last night while watching the new Ken Burns documentary "The Tenth Inning." My bottle came from a barrel dumped in '08 and it's a good one. Real nice mouth-coating texture, a touch of vanilla and an absolutely first-rate oaky nose that had me sniffing the empty glass long after my pour had disappeared down the hatch. I had this pour at 10:40 p.m., exactly eight years to the minute after my lovely daughter was born. Thoroughly enjoyable!

Skunk
10-05-2010, 18:20
There's hope for you yet, SMOWK! :lol:
Liking one 'on the rocks' doesn't qualify as hope in my book.

fishnbowljoe
10-05-2010, 18:41
2010 PHC. Like I said before, man this stuff is good. :woohoo: Joe

rocky480
10-05-2010, 18:58
I've been away from bourbon for a few days, so I decided to correct that problem with a pour of 4R1B, followed by a pour of OGD114 tonight. I've enjoyed the 114 ever since I first tried it, but I've done a complete 180 on the 4R1B. Initially, I thought I made a huge mistake in buying the bottle, but now, either due to oxidation or maybe I've just finally come around, this bourbon is very good.

ILLfarmboy
10-05-2010, 19:15
Last week I ran across a bar that stocked Buffalo Trace. So, tonight since I ate supper in town I went back to the same bar and had a couple pours of BT......and the bartender even knew what I meant by "neat".

SMOWK
10-05-2010, 20:34
Liking one 'on the rocks' doesn't qualify as hope in my book.

But I "Reeaallllyyy" liked it. :lol:

I still have some that hasn't quite made it to the glencairn yet. i'll be back.

sailor22
10-05-2010, 20:43
I got into my newly purchased Parkers Heritage tonight. So easy to drink. The big proof was hardly noticable. Loved it.

nblair
10-05-2010, 21:12
Finished up some work from home with pours of Weller 12 and AAA 10 Year Single Barrel from The Party Source. The AAA really hit the spot tonight, I haven't had it in awhile.

CaptainQ
10-06-2010, 10:41
Over at Jake's/SGTGTO last night helping out with the making of his 2010 Pumpkin Ale. Had to have a few pours during the process. Started with some vintage "Deluxe" Cream of Kentucky 80 proof. Next up was WT 86.8, damn fine juice! Finished with a healthy pour of ER101.

Had a fun time making beer as I haven't done it in years. Felt bad because I had to leave before we completed the batch, but can't wait to try it when it's ready. Thanks again Jake!

OscarV
10-06-2010, 11:38
I'm sippin' on some Four Roses OESQ recipe that was selected by Julios Liquors.
119 proof, 10 years old, low rye-floral yeast, this is the same recipe that was used for the 4R1B 2009 LE that was relesed in the Spring of that year.
This one is more in your face than the '09 LE.
I liked that '09 LE, it was subtle and delicate, you could pick up hints of honey and cocoa dust.
This one seems bolder, hotter, great floral nose, toffee blast taste.

hectic1
10-06-2010, 16:07
I'm sippin' on some Four Roses OESQ recipe that was selected by Julios Liquors.
119 proof, 10 years old, low rye-floral yeast, this is the same recipe that was used for the 4R1B 2009 LE that was relesed in the Spring of that year.
This one is more in your face than the '09 LE.
I liked that '09 LE, it was subtle and delicate, you could pick up hints of honey and cocoa dust.
This one seems bolder, hotter, great floral nose, toffee blast taste. I agree with you Oscar..I have the Julio's OESQ bottle and 5 different Binny's recipes and the Julio's definitely is hotter and more in your face then any of the Binny's bottles. :(

OscarV
10-06-2010, 16:12
Hey, Binny's is the best.
The sooner we all realize this then the better off we'll all be.
BTW, I now have all ten of the 4R recipes via Binny's selections.
I feel like a mad scientist, I can cook up all kinds of stuff.

Vosgar
10-06-2010, 17:25
Thought I'd see if my 09 OFBB would cut through the nasty head cold I've got and deliver some flavor to my dead taste buds. It did a fine job with the spicyness really doing the trick.

Gary

kyrocklover
10-06-2010, 19:52
Early tonight I had a couple of pours of EC12YO and after dinner a pour of Wathen's and later a pour of 4RsB. All very tasty. Tonight the EC12YO seemed to be the favorite. Normally, I like the 100+ proof bourbons, but over the last month or so the 90-95 proof have been great. Thank goodness for tastebuds that change. :cool:

DeanSheen
10-06-2010, 21:37
Stayed on the RITT BIB tonight through baseball. Nice no Hitter by Roy. Both of my ex Tribe Cy Young pitchers won. Was rooting for Minn. Damn Yankees!

ggilbertva
10-07-2010, 05:12
Last night, a '92 Old Fitz Prime at an easy 80 proof. Trying to kill off this handle.

unclebunk
10-07-2010, 06:28
Did another side-by-side with the AAA 10 YO and AAA BIB last night. The latter beats he former hands down in my book. I enjoy the 10 Year Old on the occasions that I have it, but when compared head-to-head it comes off a tad thin and not as well-rounded in flavor.

hectic1
10-07-2010, 06:42
While chatting with some of the guys in the Gazebo last night I had pours of OFBB 07 and ER101 Frankfort...both were good but I would give a slight edge to the ER101!

IowaJeff
10-07-2010, 08:21
I had a healthy pour of this years OF Birthday Bourbon. I like it a lot. Nice warm spiciness with just the right amount of oak. Great bourbon for the fall season.

unclebunk
10-07-2010, 08:26
I had a healthy pour of this years OF Birthday Bourbon. I like it a lot. Nice warm spiciness with just the right amount of oak. Great bourbon for the fall season.

Got a bottle of it for my birthday a few days ago and really looking forward to sharing it with friends this weekend. (We drank Blanton's and FRSB on the night of the party itself.) I still have sealed bottles of 2007 and 2008 to knock off!

SMOWK
10-07-2010, 10:28
I had a healthy pour of this years OF Birthday Bourbon. I like it a lot. Nice warm spiciness with just the right amount of oak. Great bourbon for the fall season.

I've been taking this one slowly and it's coming around on me. Much like Four Roses has in the past few months. I think this years bottling is better than 2009, but not as good as 2008. Those are the only three that I've tried.

SMOWK
10-07-2010, 14:11
Home from work and enjoying some ORVW 10/107 that has been on the back shelf for a while. This bottle has a strong earthy oak taste to it. The oak really shines on the 100+ proof VWs.

hectic1
10-07-2010, 18:18
Started with a pour of 98 WSR and now I'm onto a pour of 95 WSR...the 95 definitely is thicker and has a better mouth feel. I get a little better finish from the 95 as well...man, I wish they still made bourbon like this! :(

spun_cookie
10-07-2010, 19:34
Started with some Willett Chocolate Monster... That is great juice. Next was a Willett, HH product if I had to guess, that is bottle 15 of 24. Just top notch juice. 17yr bueaty.

Next up is some of the Willett Stitzel Weller, DSP 16 Juice that I picked up. Talk about some amazing juice. None of the other bottles of Willett can be compared against this one. At about 139 proof, this one is in a class of its own. Distinct balance of oak and caramel with vanilla racing all over. It grows in your mouth and leaves with a finish that is legendary. Great juice.

T Comp
10-07-2010, 20:03
I went from current Pappy 15 to MM 46 and was going to end there but then thought about how life is for living and now sipping on 1983 Rebel Yell brought up from its 86.8 proof with a splash of gold veined 107 Weller Antique.

ggilbertva
10-08-2010, 10:18
I went from current Pappy 15 to MM 46 and was going to end there but then thought about how life is for living and now sipping on 1983 Rebel Yell brought up from its 86.8 proof with a splash of gold veined 107 Weller Antique.

The RY/WA vatting sounds interesting. How was it?

OscarV
10-08-2010, 11:07
Jefferson's Presidential Select 18yo Julios Liquors selection, neat

nor02lei
10-08-2010, 13:49
OGD 114 from 81 before dinner and WT 8 export with the plain dark chocolate ice cream for dessert. The granddad has grown on me over time and I like it a lot. Its almost as spicy as the Beam version and more chewy and smooth.

Leif

T Comp
10-08-2010, 14:54
The RY/WA vatting sounds interesting. How was it?

It was excellent in what was approximately a 3 parts to 1 part mix. In addition to upping the proof closer to my favored 100 proof for wheaters it added more sweetness/pecan to the RY which seems to be the driest of the SW distilled bourbons from around that time, that I have had.

Gillman
10-08-2010, 14:57
About 3:1 OWA and Pennypacker, a new import here which I find quite similar to Beam Black, plus light dash water. It's a perfect combination, sweet and a little fruity, basically the Antique profile but beefed up a bit due to the rye. I just made my own high-end bourbon, for 1/3rd the price or less.

Actually it's better than most high-enders I've had.

Gary

rocky480
10-08-2010, 18:00
Having a 6YO Willett from the DC market over ice. There's just too much burn for me neat, so the ice tames it pretty well. I need to devote a little time to finishing this bottle off so I can open the space up for something I like a little better.

DeanSheen
10-08-2010, 18:11
CNB #40 OWA while watching the Reds play like amateurs.

I'll probably switch to some OGD 114 to keep me up during the Giants/Braves so I can be sure not to miss any of the 3 runs scored in that one.

smokinjoe
10-08-2010, 18:58
Having a 6YO Willett from the DC market over ice. There's just too much burn for me neat, so the ice tames it pretty well. I need to devote a little time to finishing this bottle off so I can open the space up for something I like a little better.

That's one of the things I've noticed with the Willett's that I've had. They are very "Hit-or-Miss".

jburlowski
10-09-2010, 00:08
Lot B while watching the Reds self-destruct against the Phils.

unclebunk
10-09-2010, 06:53
We had a spectacularly beautiful day here yesterday and an equally beautiful evening, so we sat out and had a few beers and cracked open a bottle of EC12. Neither of my friends had had it before and both were quite impressed with it. I must have been too, as I walked into the kitchen this morning to discover just a quarter bottle left.:lol: Seriously though, I really like this whiskey and am not sure why I pass over it so often when I open the cabinet and browse for the evening's selection. Excellent juice at a decent price.

IronHead
10-09-2010, 12:56
Last night was some OGD 86 proof circa 1989 thanks to Bob...wow. Butterscotch, toffee and dried fruit for days.

nor02lei
10-09-2010, 13:53
OGD 114 from 81 before dinner and WLW 2007 right now. I liked the pre dinner whiskey better for sure.

Leif

B.B. Babington
10-09-2010, 16:15
picked up a Glenfiddich 12 gift set for the glencaine glass. The bottle was harsher, with more bite than I remembered from Glenfiddich. Followed it with EC18 which was much better.

Yea, two different flavors, but the EC18 was much smoother, rounder, better finish. The Glen had a more interesting nose which is the only thing it had over the EC18.

I should add that this particular EC18 was only from an average barrel from 91, I've got better much better examples of EC18 in the stable.

Maybe the Glen suffered cork taint or something?

The night is till young and there's a Pappy 20 calling.

jburlowski
10-09-2010, 19:03
Earlier, OGD 114 while talking with the neighbors on a perfect Fall evening.

Later, savoring some PHC 2010, while watching various sports on TV.

sgtgto
10-09-2010, 19:42
Willett 13 year old "Mackinac" 110.8 proof

It is likely the best bourbon I have ever had. I cannot name the things I would do to get another bottle of it. It will be a sad day when it is gone... so I will savor it until then. Somewhere out there.. there are 70 more bottles..

nblair
10-10-2010, 12:56
Celebrating the bday by watching football and enjoying some of my nicer bottles I don't open too often. Started off with 4R 2009 Mariage, 2006 WLW (which definitely has a SW nose), and 1969 Very Old Fitzgerald. Probably will follow up with some PVW 20 and 15 and some GTS. Who knew Sundays could be so fun? :)

OscarV
10-10-2010, 14:09
Willett Family Reserve 17yo 133.7prf selected by The louisville Bourbon Society, neat.
Hot candy apple and dry maple syrup.

unclebunk
10-10-2010, 16:01
Scotch? Bourbon? Scotch? Bourbon? Okay, bourbon it is. I'll have an OWA (old label) while watching the Phillies sweep the Reds. Now all I have to do is sort out what beer I'll have with it.

birdman1099
10-10-2010, 17:15
I had a louisville B S willett tonight as well.... But I had the 16 year. Very good tonight. Also had a willett 17 from SV. woodiest version out there. A splash of water helped a ton.

jburlowski
10-10-2010, 17:44
A mixed bag: Weller 12, followed by WRMCSO, followed by PS 17 yo Willett wheater (S-W?).

The Bengals and Reds are self-destructing.... if anyone asks, I live in Northern Kentucky.

ggilbertva
10-10-2010, 20:00
A mixed bag: Weller 12, followed by WRMCSO, followed by PS 17 yo Willett wheater (S-W?).

The Bengals and Reds are self-destructing.... if anyone asks, I live in Northern Kentucky.

Same here John. Willett 17 year, Julio's Weller Cent, and '99 EWSB.

callmeox
10-10-2010, 21:16
I'm having a splash of Lot B while reviewing the fantasy football happenings of the day.

boss302
10-11-2010, 00:08
Tonight, I'm having trouble getting to sleep on time...

... so, I started with an Imperial Pint of Murphy's Irish Red Ale...

... then moved on to a couple pours of Rebel Reserve, on of my personal favorites...

... now ending the night with a pour of George Dickel No. 8.

BourbonJoe
10-11-2010, 06:44
I'm visiting my daughter and Bourbon Rob down here in Alabama. The last several nights we were enjoying JRPS 17, PHC 10 y/o wheater, Barrel Proof Four Roses OESK and OBSK, Rare Breed, Old Charter 10, WTRR 90, Dickel Barrel Select and various other goodies.
Joe :usflag:

SMOWK
10-11-2010, 12:51
Hanging on the back deck with the pooch a little early this evening. Brought a Camacho Room 101 and some Michter's from the King Tut decanter. I can't get over how much this Michter's reminds me of The Fox.

fishnbowljoe
10-11-2010, 16:16
Having a little AA BIB tonight. Joe

unclebunk
10-11-2010, 16:34
Having a little AA BIB tonight. Joe

I'll be joining you, only ninety miles away. I've got a single pour of the AAA 10YO and AA BIB left and plan to knock off both bottles tonight while watching the Vikings-Jets game.

smokinjoe
10-11-2010, 19:51
Sitting here totally mesmerized with an Old Fitz 1849 10 yr 1/2 pint that I picked up last week. Not sure, but I think bottled ~1971. An odd 90.4 proof. Utterly spectacular bourbon. A slight whiff brings an onslaught of caramels, vanillins, a little oak, and muted alcohol. I keep inhaling further, and all that I have detected increases in magnitude, but the alcohol never singes, and the oak stays balanced. I've never tasted a thicker bourbon. Coats the mouth like molasses. As dark as Karo syrup. Heavy and deep caramels and vanilla continue. The tannins and oak continue to keep it from becoming cloying, though. Absolute, perfect balance at every stage. No rough edges, at all. Like a polished gem stone. This bourbon is a work of art. I am wowed.

nor02lei
10-11-2010, 22:18
I had Beam 6 grains before dinner and Stagg 2009 and an uncut 13 years HH bottled by Cadenheads after. The Stagg found the spot best, but the Beam brand was also delicious and a perfect aperitif/starter whiskey.

Leif

nor02lei
10-11-2010, 22:21
Sitting here totally mesmerized with an Old Fitz 1849 10 yr 1/2 pint that I picked up last week. Not sure, but I think bottled ~1971. An odd 90.4 proof. Utterly spectacular bourbon. A slight whiff brings an onslaught of caramels, vanillins, a little oak, and muted alcohol. I keep inhaling further, and all that I have detected increases in magnitude, but the alcohol never singes, and the oak stays balanced. I've never tasted a thicker bourbon. Coats the mouth like molasses. As dark as Karo syrup. Heavy and deep caramels and vanilla continue. The tannins and oak continue to keep it from becoming cloying, though. Absolute, perfect balance at every stage. No rough edges, at all. Like a polished gem stone. This bourbon is a work of art. I am wowed.

Real interesting to hear Joe. I have had a 4/5 of that one in my bunker for years. I canít detect any age on it ether other than its bottled 72 or earlier due to the S-W on the label, but it looks very, very old. Maybe its time to open mine as well this winter.

Leif

smokinjoe
10-12-2010, 06:56
Real interesting to hear Joe. I have had a 4/5 of that one in my bunker for years. I canít detect any age on it ether other than its bottled 72 or earlier due to the S-W on the label, but it looks very, very old. Maybe its time to open mine as well this winter.

Leif

Leif, if your bottle is the same, and has retained the characteristics that mine has, I think you'll really enjoy it. I put mine at 1971, because the main label has "1970 SWD" in small letters on the bottom left corner, and like yours, the neck foil has Stitzel Weller stamped on it, which would put a 1972 back-end date to it.
BTW, do you know when they took the 10 year age statement for this, down to 9 years?

unclebunk
10-12-2010, 07:33
The AA BIB went down nicely last night, as did the AAA10 YO with a touch of water. As I'm in a "thin out the herd" mode, I will work towards knocking off the Rowan's Creek tonight before casting an eye on the rest of the liquor cabinet.

bourbon-n00b
10-12-2010, 09:55
Enjoying a vatting of approx 80% WT 8 (out of a decanter) and 20% current WT101. The current stuff adds a little fire to the back end while the 8 brings loads of deep, rich vanilla sweetness. Just a great pour for this time of the year!

OscarV
10-12-2010, 12:32
4R1B OESQ barrel proof Julios selection, neat.

nor02lei
10-12-2010, 13:54
Beam 6 grains again before dinner today and it was as refreshing as yesterday. After dinner I had the last out of a WT 101 from 86 and a small pour of OGD 114 right now. This particular Turkey has not been one of my favourites from the 80-is, but it did taste at its best today with a very long lingering finish. The other 2 tasted excellent as well.

Leif

nor02lei
10-12-2010, 13:58
BTW, do you know when they took the 10 year age statement for this, down to 9 years?

No I donít Joe. However I guess there might be members that know like Chuck or Mike for instance.

Leif

OscarV
10-12-2010, 15:19
I opened up, of all things, my Colonel Lee BIB.
It has a spicey rye-like quality to it.

ggilbertva
10-12-2010, 19:12
I opened up, of all things, my Colonel Lee BIB.
It has a spicey rye-like quality to it.

That's a Barton Brand is it not? If so, how does it compare to VOB BIB?

ggilbertva
10-12-2010, 19:14
Had a small pour left of a 1957 Old Fitz BIB 8 year. Oily, viscous and delicious. Why can't I get bourbon like this anymore?

DeanSheen
10-12-2010, 19:18
OWA CNB #39 while watching Clifton Phifer setup an ex-Indians Cy Young ALCS matchup.

I think I'll have a few more.

chilidawg7
10-12-2010, 19:30
A healthy dose of OGD 114 this evening as I catch up on a few podcasts.

dustyj
10-12-2010, 21:22
It was a turkey kind of night for me. Just brought home my first pewter top WTKS. So I had a few from a 99 Rear Bread and maybe a few from a 06 WTKS. Liked the 06 WTKS a little better.

OscarV
10-13-2010, 11:21
Do you really want to know?
Let's do it this way,... tell me what you think I am drinking!:cool:
Besides,... I am still hung up on why one of the MODS changed it from Autumn to Fall.
Is it a Euro vs American thing?

SBOmarc
10-13-2010, 11:35
I can't guess what you are drinking Oscar, I will go as far as saying something from Wild Turkey...

Would someone please explain to Mr. 5000 why the season changed from Autumn to Fall? It seems to be a problem for him.

OscarV
10-13-2010, 11:40
I will go as far as saying something from Wild Turkey...


BINGO!
Yes I did pull that heavy assed stopper and poured a WTKS 11-12-01, as aways, neat.

Josh
10-13-2010, 12:32
BINGO!
Yes I did pull that heavy assed stopper and poured a WTKS 11-12-01, as aways, neat.

In solidarity with you, Big Dog, I'm pouring some turkey myself. I just opened my bottle of WTRR 101. Signed. 'Cause that's how I roll.

birdman1099
10-13-2010, 12:43
Well, I cracked open a Kahn's selection OWA. Blah...


Has any other of the Indy brethern had this one yet?

Does it really suck, or is it just me????:skep:

Josh
10-13-2010, 12:46
Well, I cracked open a Kahn's selection OWA. Blah...


Has any other of the Indy brethern had this one yet?

Does it really suck, or is it just me????:skep:

I'll be sure to avoid that one when I'm in Indy for thanksgiving!:cool:

OscarV
10-13-2010, 12:51
Legs, wings, breasts, and 101, I love and celebrate all the turkey!!!

nor02lei
10-13-2010, 13:10
Dickel 12 and JDSS before dinner and OGD 114 right now. The Kentucky brand found the spot best tonight!

Leif

SBOmarc
10-13-2010, 14:11
BINGO!
Yes I did pull that heavy assed stopper and poured a WTKS 11-12-01, as aways, neat.

It wasn't all that difficult. Are you over the mod change for the time of year?

SMOWK
10-13-2010, 14:56
Charter 101 neat. Now with a little water. Either way, not a whole lot of flavor. This one would go down better in a shot glass with some beer, or in a cocktail. I think that's what will happen to the rest of the bottle.

Edit - after letting it sit in a glass for a good 15-20 minutes, a nice vanilla-oak aroma develops. After a whiff or two, it's gone.

ggilbertva
10-13-2010, 17:32
Dickel 12 and JDSS before dinner and OGD 114 right now. The Kentucky brand found the spot best tonight!

Leif

Leif - You're fortunate to have access to the JDSS. It's my favorite TN Whiskey.

Skunk
10-13-2010, 17:51
Well, I cracked open a Kahn's selection OWA. Blah...


Has any other of the Indy brethern had this one yet?

Does it really suck, or is it just me????:skep:

It must be you. IMO it was great for $20.

kyrocklover
10-13-2010, 18:24
I had my first taste of regular Evan Williams black over the last couple of days. I was greatly surprised at the taste with vanilla, oak, rye and tobacco? Good value bourbon.

nblair
10-13-2010, 18:39
Well, I cracked open a Kahn's selection OWA. Blah...


Has any other of the Indy brethern had this one yet?

Does it really suck, or is it just me????:skep:


I felt the same way about a Cork 'n Bottle OWA single barrel I purchased. By the time I was half was through with it, it definitely opened up a little bit and somehow turned into the best OWA I ever had. Since then I always keep an empty bottle around to help it oxidize quicker. Give it time, I'm sure it'll come around.

dustyj
10-13-2010, 18:39
Very much enjoying a glass of ORVW 90, from 04. Just great, almost buttery. My favorite OWA so far is also from 04. Wounder if they are related in any way? I never really gave the 90 much attention with the 107 out there but it is very nice. I have next to look forward to a 02 in the 90 proof. Expect great things.

DeanSheen
10-13-2010, 18:49
Happily slumming away with some RITT BIB.

dmarkle
10-13-2010, 19:48
some of the Weller 12, up against the Old Weller Antique. Yum and yum.

fishnbowljoe
10-13-2010, 21:03
Bowling night tonight. Gary brought some OGD BIB. It was pretty darn good. I brought a treat as well. Weller 12........Everett's. :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: Cheers Paul! Joe

IowaJeff
10-14-2010, 07:55
I finished off a bottle of 4Roses SB Barrel Strength, OBSQ. At first as wasn't a huge fan, but this bottle grew on me over time. the flavor is a little lighter and subter, more fruit, less spice. I enjoyed it, but probably won't buy another bottle at its current price point.

sailor22
10-14-2010, 08:07
Last night started with OGD 114 '80
then Parkers Heritage Wheated,
then JRPS 17,
then Willett 17yr,
then WTKS '03
and finished up with more Parkers Wheated.

Loves me some Parkers.

nor02lei
10-14-2010, 13:59
WT tradition before dinner and uncut Blantonís after. The uncut brand didnít impress at all, but I hope it will improve over time.
Ď
Leif

OscarV
10-14-2010, 14:07
4R1B 2007 LE Rutledge 40th, neat.

Gillman
10-14-2010, 14:54
Hey Robert, try the current Old Overholt - you may be surprised.

Sampling now Forty Creek Confederation Oak Reserve, a Canadian whisky aged in barrels made from Canadian oak felled from 150 year old trees. (The trees needed culling to promote the growth of young trees in the same stand, so it's win win). The presentation box states the Canadian white oak has a tighter grain than U.S. oak and a rich vanilla flavour.

I certainly agree with that. The wood flavours are rich and sweet like good buttercream. I get some (not too much) distillery character, rye-type, and overall the taste is very good. Heavy rich whisky but still in the Canadian style. I'll try to bring some of this next spring to Sampler.

Gary

SMOWK
10-14-2010, 15:27
Trying Four Roses Yellow Label for the first time. I've been slowly starting to admire a few of the FR products as of lately. It all came down to a bottle of FR1B and a few ice cubes, but that's a different story. I usually don't purchase much of anything under 100 proof, but this was a new addition at a local store so I thought I would give it a try.

It's a very light whiskey with not a whole lot going on. It is very easy to drink. A grainy aroma that isn't too sweet, and isn't too bitter. The taste is pretty flat, with a nice marriage of corn and rye. No burn, as expected at 80 proof. The finish is somewhat short, but it leaves a soft rye flavor in your mouth for a minute or so. Not nearly as much bite as it's neighbors on the shelf, OGD & WT.

$20 even for the bottle. A little overpriced when OGDBIB & WT101 go for $16 & $21 respectively. If this were BIB, I believe I would be much more impressed with both the flavor, and the price point.

smokinjoe
10-14-2010, 15:52
I adore the current OGD 114. And, I've said several times that I prefer it to the ND 114. But, tonight I'm sipping on an '82 ND 114, and it is really wonderful. So good, that I dare not compare it to the current, as I don't want to have to go on a regional bottle hunt for this dusty! :o

That being said, I will be consistent in one thing: I still see no similarities at all between the ND and current iteration...regardless, of what we hear about the mashbill/recipe being the same. Night and Day.

DeanSheen
10-14-2010, 17:35
Gary, I'll try some OO again and see what I find. I had bought a bottle once and ended up giving away 2/3 of it as I found it sweetly cloying like a mild syrup with not much going on.

I just got home from dinner and am having a pour of Saz 18. I like the Saz 18's refinement and it makes me wish for more aged ryes.

Gillman
10-14-2010, 18:56
The current OO has some of the Beam "yeast" markers but with an appetizing lemon drops note and good smokiness. Together it makes for a palate of surprising complexity.

A good sipper, I don't think it will disappoint!

Gary

BourbonJoe
10-14-2010, 19:07
Bought a bottle of OF Signature today. Been a while since I had some. This IMO is a very approachable whiskey at a great price point.
Joe :usflag:

SMOWK
10-14-2010, 19:14
Bought a bottle of OF Signature today. Been a while since I had some. This IMO is a very approachable whiskey at a great price point.
Joe :usflag:

I've still yet to make my way to the OFS. I've been buying the rest of the bottles of OFBIB that are still on the shelf locally, then I'll make the switch.

DING DING....why the hell haven't I put them side by side?

T Comp
10-14-2010, 20:08
My version of an ice cream sundae minus the ice cream. 86 proof 1980 ND Old Taylor with all of its butterscotch goodness followed by an Old Fitz BIB from 2001 which is heavy on the peanuts. The Old Fitz BIB is an early label DSP-KY 1/ bottled at DSP 31 which I understand from a posting back on 2/24/01 by =John= (Lipman) was not made by Heaven Hill but UD product made before 1999. It is really excellent whiskey and much better to me than the more recent Heaven Hill Old Fitz product which John thought would be better. John though, still appears to be quite the keen prognosticator on the Heaven Hill made wheat juice (as long as it is aged longer) considering the rave comments for the 2010 PHC release.

"Even though OF-BIB is only supposed to be 4 - 5 years old, up until very recently, the labels have all stated it was distilled at DSP-16 (Stitzel-Weller) and bottled at DSP-24 (the bottling plant at Glenmore in Owensboro). New bottles are now labelled showing it to be distilled at Bernheim (DSP-01) and bottled at Heaven Hill (DSP-31). This bourbon wasn't made by Heaven Hill, though; it was UD product made before 1999. Heaven Hill has gone through some pains to improve and "humanize" the distilling process at Bernheim, so their version of Old Fitz should be even better."

=John=
http://w3.one.net/~jeffelle/whiskey (http://w3.one.net/~jeffelle/whiskey)

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180

IowaJeff
10-15-2010, 07:44
I cracked open my first bottle of Weller 12 and I was really impressed. This could become the wheated brother to EC12, my other favorite pour at around $20.

hectic1
10-15-2010, 16:47
Frankfort Weller Cent...yummy yummy in my tummy! :)

unclebunk
10-15-2010, 16:50
Russell's Reserve 10/101 for the Yankees-Rangers game tonight.

jburlowski
10-15-2010, 17:04
Hancock's... for the first time in a long time. Not the best pour around but, the way this week has been going, it'll do.

callmeox
10-15-2010, 18:31
A too generous pour of '07 Saz 18 while I relax with Anthony Bourdain's Medium Raw on my Nook.

DeanSheen
10-15-2010, 19:11
ER 10/90 still as good as ever.

Getting primed before hitting the Thomas Brinkmann show downtown.

rocky480
10-15-2010, 20:04
Back from a busy trip to California, so tonight, I enjoyed a pour of ORVW 10/107, followed by Weller 12 current release, followed by a little AAA 10 Year compared against AAA 10 Star just to refresh my memory.

chilidawg7
10-15-2010, 20:47
Had a little bit of Buffalo Trace tonight. Took it easy as tomorrow is game day up in Gainesville, where I will be enjoying some OFBB '10 from my collection and Jim Beam White at a Beam-sponsored tailgate party.

BourbonJoe
10-15-2010, 21:19
Had a pour of Virgin 7 y/o 101 with a cigar. Since a lot of you guys are moving away from the high end you might want to give this one a try. Not bad at all for 11.39 a bottle.
Joe :usflag:

docbible
10-15-2010, 21:23
Enjoying PH 10yo wheat on ice. I like this one. tim

straightwhiskeyruffneck
10-15-2010, 23:22
had a couple pours of maker's 46. hmmm........ nothin really special, but i like it.
although there are alot better whiskies in the price range, its good. a different, kind of woodyness that i like. smooth. very good pour on the rocks.

ErichPryde
10-16-2010, 02:20
I adore the current OGD 114. And, I've said several times that I prefer it to the ND 114. But, tonight I'm sipping on an '82 ND 114, and it is really wonderful. So good, that I dare not compare it to the current, as I don't want to have to go on a regional bottle hunt for this dusty! :o

That being said, I will be consistent in one thing: I still see no similarities at all between the ND and current iteration...regardless, of what we hear about the mashbill/recipe being the same. Night and Day.



It is amazing how different they are, isn't it? the only OGD114 from ND I've ever had actually was a batch 2 that some guy from Georgia sent me, and it's still in my cupboard. thanks to whoever that was! :skep: I've tried it, and I've tried the current- What I can say about both is odd- I know some of you are die-hard ND whiskey fans. First and foremost, Em & Scott come to mind- and great for you guys. I can tell that the stuff is good, but I just don't love it like you do, guys. For me, the same is true of the current 114. I just can't love it.

That being said, I really do like the ND 114. I just don't like it as much as some- that bottle is still around, and I have a tendency to devour whiskey I love.

If only you guys felt about old turkey the way I feel about old ND, we'd have a win/win. At least you guys still win though I guess! Alas....! That being said, I had a bonded old taylor recently that was absolutely fantastic, by any distillery's standards.


Having tried as many dusties as I've tried, I can say that there are a lot, in fact a majority, that I would pass up at this point. Some of the current iterations are as good or better- not to sound blasphemous, but first and foremost to my mind comes Knob Creek. I'd put the current KC up against Bonded beam, and I think that they'd be really different but both excellent pours. Even the current WT101 is getting a lot lot better (although still a very young whiskey).


But as for what I'm drinking? various turkeys, ending with and concentrating around WTKS from 1996.

B.B. Babington
10-16-2010, 17:14
struck out again??? maybe. the other day I picked up a less than average Glenfiddich; today I sampled some EC18 and was not that impressed.

Like Gillman said in another thread, this latest EC18 expression is excellent. I've really enjoyed the barrels on the shelves now from 1991 distillate. I've sampled about a dozen different barrels currently on the shelves. I found one so good that I went back to the store and cleaned out the shelf of everything from the same date and barrel. Every other barrel I've sampled (barreled 1991) have been excellent with interesting florals and nice lingering aftertaste.

However, picked up one today that was different. More Earthy and very different aftertaste. I should have known something was up since there was another bottle from the same barrel but I chose the one with sloppy handwriting and label placed way low - as if the guy bottling was sampling. I hoped that meant it was so good he couldn't resist.

But I put ??? marks on it at the start of this post because I find I keep going back to it. I'm now going back and forth between two recent EC18's while watching a really bad sci-fi movie, The Incredible Petrifed World from 1957.

_____________

hectic1
10-16-2010, 18:11
ND OGD 86 bottled in 89...I really wish this juice was still made!

kyrocklover
10-16-2010, 19:19
Earlier Johnny Drum 101. Very nice pour. Now celebrating UK's win over SC with a pour of Fighting Cock.

jburlowski
10-17-2010, 05:10
Last night it was the Party Source-selected 1792 SB while watching my Badgers destroy the (soon to be former) #1 Buckeyes. Been a while since I've had this bourbon so it's hard for me to compare it with the standard bottling; but vanilla is certainly predominate.

chilidawg7
10-17-2010, 06:26
Yesterday at a Jim Beam-sponsored tailgate before the game, I enjoyed a few JBWs+Coke and JBBs+Sprite. Then, as a parting gift, I was handed a Red Stag+Coke which turned out to be pretty good. Or maybe I had just had too many of the others at that point...

lrochau
10-17-2010, 09:52
Yesterday I was all over the board watching the Hawks pick up a big win.

EWSB Binnys
Lot B
ER17

unclebunk
10-17-2010, 09:59
Opened a new bottle of OGD114 last night after knocking my last bottle off a few days ago--great stuff! It went well with a nice bottle of Primator Dark Czech Lager and a bit of baseball on the tube.

hectic1
10-17-2010, 11:04
I had a couple more pours last night in chat while watching some football and UFC...finished off my only bottle of WT 86.8 and had a pour of WTAS...

ggilbertva
10-17-2010, 17:40
After celebrating a couple family birthdays, I'm ending the day with a '74 Old Fitz Prime 86pf and a '71 AA 6 yr 86 pf. I have to say, both were superb pours. Sadly, the AA is gone.

Josh
10-17-2010, 19:12
Clearing out the bottom shelfers tonight: Enjoying some 1895 Old Forester , and finishing off my gallon jug of Very Very Old Fitz.

Just kidding. It's ORVW 10/107 in the glass while I watch my Colts play no defense while the Redskins return the favor.:lol:

Last night Amy and I were in Chi-town for a Binny's run. Tasted some Hudson Baby Bourbon, Hudson 4 Grain Bourbon, 1970s AA, Vintage 23, and the 4R SBBS OESF and OBSF all from Joe's Shopping Cart o'bliss.

We later went to Delilah's where I had a Rendezvous Rye, then we finished the evening hanging out with T Comp. He brought some Old Fitz BiB (dsp 16), Old Fitz 101, UD era Dant BiB, and a 16 y/o BiB I can't remember the name of. We finished the evening with a little sip of Bourye from a bottle we split. It was a great time! Thanks again for hanging out with us Thad.

LouKyLover
10-18-2010, 03:54
I just noticed from a note by silverfish that thw 2011 World Whisky Awards from Jim Murray's Whisky Bible were announced and that Evan Williams 23 year old won for 18 and over. I bought a bottle at Heaven Hill a month ago then heard that it is only sold overseas. Is this true? I also got a note from Angel's Envy that their new release will be available "before the first of the year." Didn't quite make 10.10.10. Waiting builds excitement, though. Finally, I am still patiently (?) waiting for Buffalo Trace to issue two of its Antique selections this year -- Eagle 17 and W L Weller barrel proof. Fall is a busy time.

edo
10-18-2010, 05:07
I'm very much enjoying Old Grand-dad 86 proof. Neat, of course. It's been a while. I forgot just how really excellent this bourbon is.

It goes so well with Wilco on the box.

OscarV
10-18-2010, 05:43
Yes, Yes, Yes,...I know it's early but I am having a short sniff and sip of Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit 2001 pewter top.
I'm kicking off my first day of Autumn vacation.

bonneamie
10-18-2010, 10:52
Oscar, I'm glad it's not Fall vacation.:lol:

OscarV
10-18-2010, 11:34
I'm kicking off my first day of Autumn vacation.


Oscar, I'm glad it's not Fall vacation.:lol:


"Fall" is oh, so North American and you know me Sister, I am oh, so Continental.

this guy?:rolleyes: or this guy?:skep:

nor02lei
10-18-2010, 13:19
I came back this afternoon from a 3-day visit to my sons in Gothenburg. Alongside bunches of other good drinks we finished a bottle of Weller 12 that I brought. We all liked it a lot and I thought it was much better than the last bottle I had of this brand. The nose was outstanding but all row very good in the other senses as well it lacks a little texture and concentration (proof) in the taste and finish.
Today back home I had Dickel 12 before dinner and OGD 114 after.

Leif

SMOWK
10-18-2010, 15:03
ER10. Lots of fruit, nuts and toffee on the nose and oaky dryness on the palate. It's been quite a while since I paid this one a visit.

I hope the local LCB does a bourbon sale again this Autumn. I believe this 1.75L was around $35 then. I have no idea why it took me this long to get around to opening it. Then again, I think I went through a half dozen or so last year, this was the straggler.

Josh
10-18-2010, 16:27
"Fall" is oh, so North American and you know me Sister, I am oh, so Continental.

this guy?:rolleyes: or this guy?:skep:

I've always been more of a Goodyear man myself, but to each their own.

Tonight I'm spending time with a couple new friends: Whistle Pig and 4R SmB LE. They're both really nice whiskies. Really really nice.

OscarV
10-19-2010, 13:13
I have been listening to people's opinion on young whyskey for a while now and I've tried a few.
I always conclude that it's a waste of time.
That is until today. I opened up a bottle of Willett today.
Here's the stats;

Willett Estate Bottled Single Barrel Bourbon
4 Years Old
125.4 Proof
Barrel No: 2
Rick: 54
Warehouse: B
Distilled: May 21, 2003
Bottle No 125 of 216
Toddy's & Doug's Selection
Fall Festival 2007

It doesn't have that offensive youngness on the nose, it's quite mellow and tame. If anything it has a combination corn & rye whiskey aroma to it. No wood, at first that was a let down to me but after a little time I appreciate that for a change.

The entry taste always comes fast for me no matter what I am drinking and upon entry I come to conclusions that are if not right or if not wrong is way way to early.
Same with this guy, I let it roll in and there it is again, corn/rye but like I said that's not a bad thing, (but doesn't the label say bourbon?), again not an offensive youngster, no not at all.
OK, here's what seals the deal, it is a mouthful. Let it roll on your tounge and it gets thick and fills up your mouth.
Nice whiskey!

Finish? Not the best but not the worst by a looong shot, just enough.

Ryed bourbons can't take long aging as well as wheaters but I sure would like to have tasted this whiskey at 18 years old, I'd bet it would have been a classic.