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nascarillustrate
10-28-2010, 05:48
Hi,
Was looking for some help identifying the age of an unopened 500ml bottle of Dewars White Label? This was given to me back in 1990 and the ATF tag that is still intact read NY-I-68, so not knowing anything about it, I assumed it was from 1968, same year I was born.

I'm looking to sell it on Ebay soon as I have no real need for it and I was looking for some info to help accurately describe it. That's how I found this website. A little research has shown that it may be only as old as the early '80's, but you guys are the experts.
Hopefully I uploaded the pictures okay
Thanks
Daryl


www.nascarillustrated.com (http://www.nascarillustrated.com)

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 10:34
The date is usually written on the back of the label.

nascarillustrate
10-28-2010, 10:49
Thanks,
It shows an 80 and then 360 or 300, so I guess it's 1980.

That helps a lot.

Now is it drinkable? Not that I'm going too, just fyi.

Thanks
Daryl

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 12:48
I've got a bottle of it that I just opened a few weeks ago dated 1969. And it's still good.....

theDon
10-28-2010, 13:18
I would throw it on E-bay and go ahead and put about a $5,000 price-tag on it . That way if someone is dumb enough to buy it, you will have the cash to post bail for illegally selling alcohol without a license and illegally shipping across state lines. That is unless you have a license. You do have a license don't you? What am I saying of course you do.

Great questions and thanks for stopping by!

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 13:24
You just couldn't help yourself. :lol:

I would've done the same thing had I not just had the same problem with the exact bottle a few weeks ago. Notice I did not come here asking questions about scotch on a bourbon forum. At least I don't think I did...

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 13:25
Notice I did not come here asking questions about scotch on a bourbon forum. At least I don't think I did...


DAMN IT! :hot:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=217604&postcount=513

:slappin::slappin::slappin:

theDon
10-28-2010, 13:35
You just couldn't help yourself. :lol:

I would've done the same thing had I not just had the same problem with the exact bottle a few weeks ago. Notice I did not come here asking questions about scotch on a bourbon forum. At least I don't think I did...

Alas, I have no self control. I don't get to be a smartass in real life so I do it here.

CorvallisCracker
10-28-2010, 14:49
Don! How rude! Shame on you!

Daryl, let me be the first to welcome you to straightbourbon.com. I've no doubt that you're here to stay, that in the next day or so we'll be reading your introductory post in the New to Straightbourbon forum, where you'll be professing your love for the American whiskey to which this board is devoted. We look forward to your tasting notes, hearing about your "dusty" hunting adventures, and your participation in the "Gazebo" (our chat room). You being a NASCAR fan, I can't believe otherwise, given the origin of the sport being to find a Day Job for the souped-up flathead Fords used to bring fresh corn whiskey to market. It's one of the great legends of American History, right up there with the Pony Express, the Shootout at the OK Corral, and a balanced Federal budget.

You've come to the right place. We're one big happy family here, sharing our buying and drinking experiences, giving each other moral support (which includes a lot of good-natured joshing). Participation here will give you a warm, fuzzy feeling you won't get anywhere else, except from inside a bottle of oxycodone.

I don't want to believe you came here for the sole purpose of getting a free appraisal in the pursuit of a few quick bucks, so please, say it ain't so. Huggles, my pet python, died last night and I'm not sure I could bear to hear otherwise right now.

Either way, I note that no one has yet provided you with said appraisal. Being one who will blithely go where others fear to tread (and having the stinky sneakers to prove it), I'll take a stab at it.

In 1980, Dewars WL was the same cheap-ass Scotch blend that it is today. The single malt component of it may include product from some now-defunct distilleries (destroyed by orc armies sent forth by the Dark Lord Diageo), but it's mostly grain whiskey, which is the same thing now as it was thirty years ago. So I doubt it's worth any more than the current product, or about $14-15 for a 500ml bottle.

On the Patented Cracker Magic Bean Scale, it's worth http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i0SbH3GZkhI/TMnsXM8CNSI/AAAAAAAAAEc/-p5SrNJdp5E/s1600/OneandahalfMagicBeans.jpg. Don't laugh; if someone offers you that, take it. The half bean won't amount to much, but the whole one could grow into almost anything. An SI swimsuit model. A giant cornstalk. An actual Compassionate Conservative (could fetch a nice sum on eBay, given the incredible rarity).

But don't let me discourage you; I'm occasionally wrong (on June 3rd, 1997, I guessed it would rain all day, and left my sunglasses home - I was squinting all afternoon). After all, some people will buy anything. Snake oil. Pet Rocks. WMDs in Saddam Hussein's arsenal.

So good luck with it, and you come back now, you hear!

DeanSheen
10-28-2010, 15:08
A very good read Mr. Cracker.

:thankyousign:

callmeox
10-28-2010, 15:13
I was going to recommend 2 magic beans as I hate dealing in fractions.

nascarillustrate
10-28-2010, 17:28
This is a cool site for sure!!!

Love getting initiated by a bunch of liquored up bourbon drinkers. I thank you all for your help and I'll be sure to stick around.

Funny how tonight I was going to ask the question of what it might be worth, but I certainly won't now, haha. Not that I thought Dewars would be worth much.

It goes on Epain tonight for $10, but I think I like the suggestion of $5,000. Hey I deal with NASCAR diecast and I've seen some whacked out numbers on generic junk.

NASCAR and booze, what a great combination. I really drink Budweiser too!!

I'll keep you posted on how it sells and if doesn't I'll throw it in the minivan and see what that does.

Thanks

callmeox
10-28-2010, 17:38
Hey, you do custom die-cast, huh?

How much for a replica of a 1990 Michael Waltrip Pontiac from the Busch race at Bristol?

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 17:41
Alas, I have no self control. I don't get to be a smartass in real life so I do it here.

Isn't that the truth!?

CorvallisCracker
10-28-2010, 18:07
This is a cool site for sure!!!

We like it.



Love getting initiated by a bunch of liquored up bourbon drinkers.


Liquored up? Not until I get home.


I'll be sure to stick around.

Glad to hear it.


Hey I deal with NASCAR diecast...

I visited your website. Very nice. Too bad you don't go back a little further in time. In 1970, when I was 17, I badly wanted one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plymouth_Superbird.jpg).


NASCAR and booze, what a great combination. I really drink Budweiser too!!

If it's Bud Light, don't tell me. I still haven't gotten over Huggle's demise.


Thanks

You're welcome! :cool:

Josh
10-28-2010, 19:14
Just goes to show you that not all flamed newbies get scared off. Exhibit B: http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13163:lol:

SMOWK
10-28-2010, 19:29
Good find. I was never able to get that from my friends mother-in-law. I think I offered her 40 or 50 bucks one night for both of them.

Although, she's still my friends mother-in-law...

nascarillustrate
10-29-2010, 06:18
Hey, you do custom die-cast, huh?

How much for a replica of a 1990 Michael Waltrip Pontiac from the Busch race at Bristol?

I appreciate those who checked out the website. Not too long ago I sold my 1990 Waltrip Country Time on ebay. Is that the one? Sometimes sponsors jumped around so not sure if it was from Bristol? If you want to spend a few $$$ I know some people who might build one for you who are much better than me. Presently I'm not building other than just a few that are on the bench to be finished. Drop me a line though.
Daryl

nascarillustrate
10-29-2010, 06:21
Bud Light...don't make me sick.
It's Bud or nothing baby.
Sorry to hear about Huggle's. I had a fish die this morning, I feel your pain.

If I could find a Superbird of any kind, I want to be buried in it.

My car of choice is a Boss 302 or the Boss 429. I'm a 'Stang man.

Heck I'm a muscle car guy through and through.

theDon
10-29-2010, 07:18
This is a cool site for sure!!!

Love getting initiated by a bunch of liquored up bourbon drinkers. I thank you all for your help and I'll be sure to stick around.

Funny how tonight I was going to ask the question of what it might be worth, but I certainly won't now, haha. Not that I thought Dewars would be worth much.

It goes on Epain tonight for $10, but I think I like the suggestion of $5,000. Hey I deal with NASCAR diecast and I've seen some whacked out numbers on generic junk.

NASCAR and booze, what a great combination. I really drink Budweiser too!!

I'll keep you posted on how it sells and if doesn't I'll throw it in the minivan and see what that does.

Thanks

You have passed the test. Saddle up partner. There are some good folks here. Hey you got a Jeff Gordon diecast? I need something to shoot at with my AK.

nascarillustrate
10-29-2010, 11:45
Thanks all for the warm welcome!

Sorry, no Jeff Gordon stuff. Any gordon diecast I buy I strip down and make good ole boy cars. Just to clarify, my Nascar fondness goes all the way back to the Junior Johnson and The Flock brothers, those kind of guys. The real men of stock car racing. Not sissy boys like today. although I'm a big Kyle Busch fan. Just cause he pisses people off and he's the most talented driver since Earnhardt, Waltrip, Bobbie, and Cale.

Man how did this thread become this, a simple cheap ole bottle booze and I'm telling my life's story :slappin:

I don't even drink hard liquor!

callmeox
10-29-2010, 11:55
I appreciate those who checked out the website. Not too long ago I sold my 1990 Waltrip Country Time on ebay. Is that the one? Sometimes sponsors jumped around so not sure if it was from Bristol? If you want to spend a few $$$ I know some people who might build one for you who are much better than me. Presently I'm not building other than just a few that are on the bench to be finished. Drop me a line though.
Daryl

I figure that this would be an easy car for you to make. :grin:

Here's his car after the race:

http://www.speedway-guide.com/images/BristolWreckWaltrip.jpg

And a clip of the wreck

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x101qy_michael-waltrip-1990-bristol-crash_sport

cowdery
10-29-2010, 13:05
I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue) but I have an actual blended scotch question.

I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years. They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either. Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?

CorvallisCracker
10-29-2010, 13:22
I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue)


Okay.



I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years.

What could that possibly mean? :skep:



They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either.


I find most don't taste right when they're new.



Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?

Never experienced it, but then, I don't buy blended Scotch.

But to play it safe, I guess Daryl should attach a "Shake Really Really Well Before Drinking" label to the bottle if he finds a buyer.

SMOWK
10-29-2010, 13:38
I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue) but I have an actual blended scotch question.

I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years. They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either. Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?

The bottle of Dewars White Label from 1969 tastes "fine". Although it's still Dewars White Label...

ebo
10-29-2010, 19:17
I've never heard of blended scotch de-blending. Unless it's like vinegar and oil, I don't see how that is even possible?

CaptainQ
10-29-2010, 22:12
What's NASCAR?? :slappin:

Hey, I'm from Seattle.

AVB
10-31-2010, 07:15
I haven't heard that one. I've drank pre-war Johnnie Walker, had a number of late 50's and early 60's blends and currently have a 1968 Dewar's, a 1985 Dewar's and a 1975 Royal Salute open. We did a side by side of the Dewar's last month along with a current one and while the '68 was a bit different (a bit more floral) they were all very similar. Maybe that first tip of the bottle is enough to mix it up again?

I would think to have any separation there would have to be some difference in specific gravity and I don't know if the flavor components would be enough to cause that. After all the water is water and the alcohol is alcohol. Maybe a chemist could chime in.


I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue) but I have an actual blended scotch question.

I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years. They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either. Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?

OscarV
11-01-2010, 14:18
I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue) but I have an actual blended scotch question.

I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years. They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either. Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?


Okay.



What could that possibly mean? :skep:



I find most don't taste right when they're new.



Never experienced it, but then, I don't buy blended Scotch.

But to play it safe, I guess Daryl should attach a "Shake Really Really Well Before Drinking" label to the bottle if he finds a buyer.

Looks like the cracker set you straight Chuck.

Stu
11-01-2010, 15:22
I don't want to spoil the fun (by all means, continue) but I have an actual blended scotch question.

I have heard, from some pretty reliable sources, that blended scotches tend to 'de-blend' after a few years. They don't become hazardous but they don't taste right either. Has anyone heard this and, more to the point, experienced it?

We all know you, Chuck, you love to spoil the fun!

I recently bought 2 bottles of Teachers with tax stamps because the prices were still that old. I opened one and it tasted similar to Teachers today (which it should, being a blend). I never heard about it de-blending and have never experienced it.

nascarillustrate
11-01-2010, 18:25
Now how come none of you guys want to bid on it??

Well if it doesn't sell, I know a guy who is a Dewars fan, or at least was? I'll give it to him, see if he'll drink it.

No wait, maybe I'll slip it into my #@$@* cats water each day. :slappin:

That would be mean!

Virus_Of_Life
11-02-2010, 13:05
Sorry Nascar, one thing we (I) don't like is seeing links to active ebay auctions on this site. I couldn't care less if you, or anyone else, sells stuff over there but we just don't want it promoted here.

Welcome to the site and glad to you responsed well to the ribbing you were given. Cheers!

nascarillustrate
11-02-2010, 18:38
Sorry Nascar, one thing we (I) don't like is seeing links to active ebay auctions on this site. I couldn't care less if you, or anyone else, sells stuff over there but we just don't want it promoted here.

Welcome to the site and glad to you responsed well to the ribbing you were given. Cheers!

No problem, wasn't trying to promote it ... was only mentioned just to make fun of all the ribbing that started it and got me here.

Thanks

silverfish
11-03-2010, 08:23
Welcome to the site and glad to you responded well to the ribbing you were given. Cheers!

I agree. Nice that you hung in there and continue to contribute.

That said, I also have a Dewar's question - can anyone offer notes on the following:

Dewars 12yr
Dewars Signature
Dewars 18yr

as far as taste (Highland, Lowland, Speyside, etc.)? These are part of a box set
which I purchased as a gift and the price is such that I'd consider getting one for
myself in hopes that i might like them. I'm not much of a Scotch drinker but am
able to choke down, I mean tolerate a few.

AVB
11-03-2010, 09:22
There are plenty of reviews out there. Just Google "Dewar's ______ Tasting Notes" I know I did one on the Signature but can't find it off hand.

cowdery
11-03-2010, 15:50
I recently did a scotch tasting and although single malts were the point, we threw in Dewar's 12 for comparison. My take is that it's a little bit of everything--a touch of smoke, a hint of sherry, a tour of Scotland in one bottle.

silverfish
11-03-2010, 20:04
There are plenty of reviews out there. Just Google "Dewar's ______ Tasting Notes"

I'm able to find plenty of Dewar's reviews on-line but was hoping for
comments from bourbon drinkers in particular to use as a gauge as
to how I might enjoy the scotch. If you can find your Signature
review, I'd appreciate a link.

nascarillustrate
11-08-2010, 09:41
Well I'm sure you're all waiting to hear if I sold the bottle, well I took theDon's advice and put it on for $5000, it sold!!! I'm rich! Just want to thank you for that advice, now I can buy some real whisky.
Ah just kidding, sold it for $10. That should get me a small italian sub, chips, and a drink, and I'll still have to fork over a couple bucks to cover.

Daryl

CorvallisCracker
11-08-2010, 09:53
Well I'm sure you're all waiting to hear if I sold the bottle, well I took theDon's advice and put it on for $5000, it sold!!! I'm rich! Just want to thank you for that advice, now I can buy some real whisky.

Congrats, Daryl! This eve I will toast your new-found wealth with a large glass of bourbon.



Ah just kidding, sold it for $10. That should get me a small italian sub, chips, and a drink, and I'll still have to fork over a couple bucks to cover.


Okay, a small glass. :lol:

Gillman
11-08-2010, 10:43
On so-called de-blending: I haven't heard that, but I always wondered on the chemistry of mixing different whiskies whose make-up cannot be identical in terms of residual congeners, ppm peat, residual wood content which must be all over the map in terms of sources and types, etc. Why does it not all layer in the bottle after a time like a pousse cafe (one of those layered liqueur drinks you read it but rarely see in the flesh, er spirit)? Closest I got to an answer is in a distilling text it states the whiskies in a blend are "homogenized". But if so, does it last forever..?

Gary

cowdery
11-10-2010, 19:23
That's what I'm talking about. What I vaguely recall reading is that some producers have suggested that blended scotch should have a "sell by" date because of this separation.