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bigtoys
12-24-2010, 15:15
Gonna base it on the one at the Girl & the Goat. They use Old Overholt, cognac, some kind of absinthe.
I'm gonna use Whistlepig Rye, Pierre Ferrand Cognac, Lucid Absinthe, Peychaud Bitters. Luckily, Schafers in Skokie had Peychauds and it's on the way home from work. Peychauds clearly has a licorice (anise) aroma. Got the Whistlepig at Knightsbridge Wine in Northbrook; i think I remember reading about it in Malt Advocate. I also have bottles of Sazerac and vanWinkle rye; may have to do a comparison.
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imbibehour
12-25-2010, 07:11
looks like your set!

sku
12-25-2010, 14:34
Interesting. Never tried it with rye and Cognac. Usually either or. Are you using equal parts?

squire
12-25-2010, 19:59
Not sure of my source but I believe the first cocktail that was later to be known as the Sazerac was made with brandy as the spirit base.

darkluna
12-25-2010, 21:34
Personally, I wouldn't mix a cocktail with such high end rye...Sazerac or Wild Turkey or Rittenhouse would do just fine for me

sku
12-25-2010, 21:41
Not sure of my source but I believe the first cocktail that was later to be known as the Sazerac was made with brandy as the spirit base.

That's my understanding. The legend is that it was Thomas Handy who first substituted rye for Cognac.

cas
12-26-2010, 07:10
Part of the fun is experimenting. Either way it looks quite good.
Craig

sgtgto
12-26-2010, 16:46
I have found lucid to be utterly dissapointing, especially when mixed with high end spirits. If you can find Tattoo out of British Columbia.. it is amazing straight or in a cocktail.

gothbat
12-29-2010, 05:52
Personally, I wouldn't mix a cocktail with such high end rye...Sazerac or Wild Turkey or Rittenhouse would do just fine for me

I used to think similarly but I remember someone posting something like "For the best result, use the best ingredient." in a related discussion, decided to give it a go (GTS Manhattan), and was sold on this idea. Granted I don't mix cocktails that often and when I do I usually use something a lot cheaper but it's worthwhile to give these drinks a try with some of your favorite high end stuff if there is one you really like, imo.

imbibehour
12-30-2010, 08:38
I used to think similarly but I remember someone posting something like "For the best result, use the best ingredient." in a related discussion, decided to give it a go (GTS Manhattan), and was sold on this idea. Granted I don't mix cocktails that often and when I do I usually use something a lot cheaper but it's worthwhile to give these drinks a try with some of your favorite high end stuff if there is one you really like, imo.

It doesn't hurt to try, I use WhistlePig occasionally in a Manhattan but I always mix it with something of good quality (Antica).

My big beef and a numero uno rule I have is NEVER mix top shelf ingredients (like a high end whiskey) with cheap swill.

30 year aged Reposado tequila and neon slime sour mix... NO! :smiley_acbt:
20 PVW poured into cheap cola... please don't do that :hot:

this impresses nobody.

squire
12-30-2010, 12:37
I'm in the use the best ingredients camp.

OscarV
12-30-2010, 13:23
I'm in the use the best ingredients camp.



Same here, I never understood why people use the "cheap stuff" when making a cocktail.
When a person makes soup they don't use rotten or bad meat and vegtables.

cas
12-30-2010, 17:20
I think it may depend, somewhat, on the specifics. I can't see putting Pappys 15 into a bourbon and coke, the cocktail isn't that special to begin with, any midgrade bourbon is probably fine. But good rye and absinthe in a Sazerac could make a big difference. I tried one with using Handy one night, quite good, but a bit overpowering.
Craig

squire
12-31-2010, 21:31
Craig I agree. I don't see the point of buying a really good whisky and drowning it in a mixer, a bit of water or ice cube perhaps, but not cola or ginger ale, because in a tall glass any good grade whisky will do.

I will however put out my best for my friends and they may use it as they wish.

pepcycle
01-01-2011, 09:02
I've asked all my ingredients and they say they don't know the difference.

Apparently, insulting good whiskey or committing a whiskey mixing crime is something in my head.

Gillman
01-02-2011, 09:18
Blind tasting gents, blind tasting. Who will try it?

Gary