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autiger23
02-22-2011, 09:15
FYI, Spring bottling for all brands are being bottled as I type. Allocation will be shipped out early March per Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery depending if all the bottling goes as planned. SWEEEEET!

pfiest
02-22-2011, 13:18
Great news, although it won't make much of a difference for me, since we won't get it in OH. The last time I found it was about 2 years ago when Binny's had it on their website. Since then, I've been unsuccessful in finding any.

hectic1
02-22-2011, 15:28
VW said that the PVW 15 is a SW distilliate for those that have wondered. :cool:

squire
02-22-2011, 17:15
Thanks for the heads up, will be on the alert.

OscarV
02-22-2011, 17:34
VW said that the PVW 15 is a SW distilliate for those that have wondered. :cool:



Also the last of the PVW 15, right?

birdman1099
02-22-2011, 18:50
Way too generate the frenzy Bob and Oscar...:rolleyes:


I guess I better start getting the feelers out...

CaptainQ
02-22-2011, 19:27
Way too generate the frenzy Bob and Oscar...:rolleyes
Like the 15 needs any more hysteria. :rolleyes:

dmarkle
02-22-2011, 19:44
Also the last of the PVW 15, right?

Well, I doubt it. Someone asked about whether the PVW 15 was a S-W distillate on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Rip-Van-Winkle-Distillery/149828191738998), and I said that it was. Someone from ORVW (Preston?) then chimed in saying that it wasn't, but then they came back an hour later and said, whoops, that I was right, and that it was. I hate to harp on this, but I really think that stumping the distiller has to be worth a prize. I wonder what the prize should be? :rolleyes: (If it is Preston, I apologize... I hope I didn't get you in trouble with the Old Man!)

But what was really interesting was the message from ORVW, as if we haven't parsed all of this enough:


David, 15yr is still SW too. I was thinking in terms of barrel dates but we bottled up a couple of years worth of inventory last year so that the barrels wouldn't get any older.

That leads me to believe that they're going to release more into the future. This makes me feel happy in the feelings.

squire
02-22-2011, 19:45
Well, if we speak with a soft voice while hightailing it down to the allocated dealers with plastic in hand to make a reserve purchase maybe we will get there before the word gets out.

BMartin42
02-22-2011, 19:56
I have only ever managed to get hold of one bottle of PVW 15. It sits unopened in my bunker for fear that I'll never be able to nab another. I am not a hoarder by any means, but really am expecting this to be something special after trying the 20. So weird that the 20 is so much easier to come by than the 15. My local has 2 cases of the 20 right now! And no i am not sharing who that is unless you want to PM me. :cool:

I plan on grabbing every PVW 15 that I can with this release. If I could score two-three bottles I would sleep very well at night.

squire
02-22-2011, 20:14
They are both somewhat scarce around here, point of fact I believe almost all my Van Winkle purchases over the years were made while traveling out of State.

BradleyC
02-22-2011, 22:19
FYI, Spring bottling for all brands are being bottled as I type. Allocation will be shipped out early March per Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery depending if all the bottling goes as planned. SWEEEEET!


WAR DAMN EAGLE Mr. Autiger!

Jwilly019
02-23-2011, 01:32
I may have to make a special trip up to MI this Spring in an effort to nab another bottle or two after having my first sip of the 15 this past weekend.

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 06:27
and so it begins...

here's hoping the price stays the same as the last "release"

autiger23
02-23-2011, 08:08
and so it begins...

here's hoping the price stays the same as the last "release"

God I hope so too, especially for the 15's.

They also said "All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr."

That is the first I have read that, thought it was suppose to be just the 15 likely. Guess ill have to lock down a couple bottles of the 20 on my next order in March.

War Damn Eagle above too!

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 08:45
God I hope so too, especially for the 15's.

They also said "All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr."

That is the first I have read that, thought it was suppose to be just the 15 likely. Guess ill have to lock down a couple bottles of the 20 on my next order in March.

War Damn Eagle above too!

Where did you see that it's the last release of the 20? SW closed in 92, so 20 years would bring us to 2012, not taking in consideration on Julian bottling a bunch to allocate out years after, as he is doing with the 15 year.

White Dog
02-23-2011, 08:47
I have only ever managed to get hold of one bottle of PVW 15. It sits unopened in my bunker for fear that I'll never be able to nab another. I am not a hoarder by any means, but really am expecting this to be something special after trying the 20. So weird that the 20 is so much easier to come by than the 15. My local has 2 cases of the 20 right now! And no i am not sharing who that is unless you want to PM me. :cool:

I plan on grabbing every PVW 15 that I can with this release. If I could score two-three bottles I would sleep very well at night.

I find the 20 to be quite different from the 15, so you may want to open that bottle you're holding. As for availability, since the 15 is 1/2 the price of the 20, it soars off the shelf. As for the 20 sitting on shelves, unlike Scotch drinkers, Bourbon drinkers are famously frugal.

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 08:54
I find the 20 to be quite different from the 15, so you may want to open that bottle you're holding. As for availability, since the 15 is 1/2 the price of the 20, it soars off the shelf. As for the 20 sitting on shelves, unlike Scotch drinkers, Bourbon drinkers are famously frugal.


Definitely agree that the 15 and 20 have two completely different profiles. Love both of them. Here in CT the pricing was usually around:
PVW 15 - $69
PVW 20 - $110

I love the 20 and feel it's worth the extra coin to acquire some

White Dog
02-23-2011, 08:57
Definitely agree that the 15 and 20 have two completely different profiles. Love both of them. Here in CT the pricing was usually around:
PVW 15 - $69
PVW 20 - $110

I love the 20 and feel it's worth the extra coin to acquire some

I'm with you. And even if the 23yr was the same price as the 20, I would buy the 20 every single time. Worth every penny.

squire
02-23-2011, 11:51
I'm already in line waiting.

squire
02-23-2011, 11:53
Just found out our State may have an allocation of four cases.

autiger23
02-23-2011, 11:54
Where did you see that it's the last release of the 20? SW closed in 92, so 20 years would bring us to 2012, not taking in consideration on Julian bottling a bunch to allocate out years after, as he is doing with the 15 year.


It was quoted on their facebook page by whomever is running it. I would assume it was Preston as he mentioned at one time he was going to be adding a page to facebook.

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 12:25
It was quoted on their facebook page by whomever is running it. I would assume it was Preston as he mentioned at one time he was going to be adding a page to facebook.


not doubting you saw it, but I couldn't find that post on FB. And I have a hard time thinking that to be true. Here's hoping it's not. Cheers!

silverfish
02-23-2011, 12:28
Here in CT the pricing was usually around:
PVW 15 - $69
PVW 20 - $110

I love the 20 and feel it's worth the extra coin to acquire some

I feel lucky - in NY the 15 can be had for $55. - $60. and the 20 for $100. - $105.
And yes, for $55. I did buy the last of the 15s from the store. A quote from the
BourbonDork: "It won't be any cheaper than it is today." I'm trying to convince
myself to grab the 20s while I can.

I look forward to the Spring release of the 15s and will get all I can afford.

autiger23
02-23-2011, 12:37
not doubting you saw it, but I couldn't find that post on FB. And I have a hard time thinking that to be true. Here's hoping it's not. Cheers!

Go read down some under the poster's name "Chai Vang"...says it clearly there.

bourbonNOOG
02-23-2011, 13:23
not doubting you saw it, but I couldn't find that post on FB. And I have a hard time thinking that to be true. Here's hoping it's not. Cheers!

I was reading down the page the other day and saw this as well. It looks like someone either made a mistake or said something they shouldn't have because it's been deleted. Someone specifically asked about any of the PVW stuff being SW. The reply mentioned the 15 was and that this would be last year of the 20.

The comment was located underneath the 3rd post from the top. It was in response to "Bob Albano"s questions about when the juice comes from. This where the comment was made. It was in between the 4th and 5th comment where whoever runs their page replied with "the 15 is still SW juice but this is the last year of the 20 year."

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 14:11
I was reading down the page the other day and saw this as well. It looks like someone either made a mistake or said something they shouldn't have because it's been deleted. Someone specifically asked about any of the PVW stuff being SW. The reply mentioned the 15 was and that this would be last year of the 20.

The comment was located underneath the 3rd post from the top. It was in response to "Bob Albano"s questions about when the juice comes from. This where the comment was made. It was in between the 4th and 5th comment where whoever runs their page replied with "the 15 is still SW juice but this is the last year of the 20 year."

right, I have little doubt that this isn't the last of the 20 year van winkle. If it was, they wouldn't have deleted that.

hectic1
02-23-2011, 15:47
I was reading down the page the other day and saw this as well. It looks like someone either made a mistake or said something they shouldn't have because it's been deleted. Someone specifically asked about any of the PVW stuff being SW. The reply mentioned the 15 was and that this would be last year of the 20.

The comment was located underneath the 3rd post from the top. It was in response to "Bob Albano"s questions about when the juice comes from. This where the comment was made. It was in between the 4th and 5th comment where whoever runs their page replied with "the 15 is still SW juice but this is the last year of the 20 year." Hmm...I don't remember seeing that they said this was the last year of Pappy 20. They talked about the ORVW 15 and how that used to be the package before it was changed to Pappy 15 but there was no mention of the 20yr going away.

Virus_Of_Life
02-23-2011, 15:54
right, I have little doubt that this isn't the last of the 20 year van winkle. If it was, they wouldn't have deleted that.

It's not deleted I just read it

"Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr.
February 18 at 8:16am"

I'd have to think that is an error, or they're trying to drive up demand for the 20 year some.

cowdery
02-23-2011, 16:14
If they are discontinuing the 20 it is so they can continue the 23 for a little bit longer. Perhaps in terms of the prices they can get, taking the 20 off the market and using that stock to support the 23 may be more profitable. Perhaps discontinuing one or the other was inevitable. After all, every drop of S-W that they sell as Pappy 15 is whiskey that will never turn 20 or 23. It's about maximizing that finite resource.

I don't know if it's true or not, but it's very plausible.

squire
02-23-2011, 16:25
Plausible and believable, there is only so much fruit left from the SW tree.

SMOWK
02-23-2011, 16:35
I wonder how many barrels of SW juice are sitting in SB.com members' bunkers. I'm guessing the count is more than VW has left for sale.

hectic1
02-23-2011, 16:43
I wonder how many barrels of SW juice are sitting in SB.com members' bunkers. I'm guessing the count is more than VW has left for sale.
You probably have a barrel in your bunker alone! :D

SMOWK
02-23-2011, 16:45
You probably have a barrel in your bunker alone! :D

I'm working on it......:cool:

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 17:27
It's not deleted I just read it

"Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr.
February 18 at 8:16am"

I'd have to think that is an error, or they're trying to drive up demand for the 20 year some.

I still dont see it anywhere. Are we talking about the same page? The Van Winkle page Preston started is:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Old-Rip-Van-Winkle-Distillery/149828191738998

B.B. Babington
02-23-2011, 17:28
2011-1991=20 or is my math wrong? Of course stuff out of barrel is called a different age, ie Sazerac 18.

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 17:32
to throw more confusion in the mix:

"15yr is still SW too. I was thinking in terms of barrel dates but we bottled up a couple of years worth of inventory last year so that the barrels wouldn't get any older."

so this would lead me to believe there are a few years of 15 to be released.

CaptainQ
02-23-2011, 17:42
I still dont see it anywhere. Are we talking about the same page? The Van Winkle page Preston started is:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Old-Rip-Van-Winkle-Distillery/149828191738998
Yes


Chai Vang
Are the current PVW 20 & 23 all S-W bourbon or is it a blend with BT? When can we expect the remaining S-W stock to run out?
February 17 at 9:39am via iPhone

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr.
February 18 at 6:16am

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 17:49
Yes


Chai Vang
Are the current PVW 20 & 23 all S-W bourbon or is it a blend with BT? When can we expect the remaining S-W stock to run out?
February 17 at 9:39am via iPhone

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery All 20 & 23 year old Pappy is still S-W. This is the last year of the 20yr.
February 18 at 6:16am

oh I see it, THANKS

hectic1
02-23-2011, 18:07
to throw more confusion in the mix:

"15yr is still SW too. I was thinking in terms of barrel dates but we bottled up a couple of years worth of inventory last year so that the barrels wouldn't get any older."

so this would lead me to believe there are a few years of 15 to be released.
Go ahead and wait for the few years of Pappy 15's to be there...I bet the spring release will be the last as he said back in 08 that he bottled enough for 2-3 years.

chefnash51
02-23-2011, 18:21
Go ahead and wait for the few years of Pappy 15's to be there...I bet the spring release will be the last as he said back in 08 that he bottled enough for 2-3 years.


who ever said I was going to wait??

I was just posting a conflicting statement from their FB site. I've already secured several bottles to be added to the bunker.

cowdery
02-23-2011, 19:29
Bravo, everyone. Into our fifth page in two days.

squire
02-23-2011, 19:49
And we're just getting warmed up.

flintlock
02-23-2011, 19:55
I got a phone call today from a store that I frequent saying that he was delivered a single bottle of 23 year, offering it to me. Price was about $165. I'm not personally interested in the 23, but the juice is in fact getting onto the shelves. He said there were 9 bottles total in the city.

cnxvang
02-24-2011, 00:33
I got a phone call today from a store that I frequent saying that he was delivered a single bottle of 23 year, offering it to me. Price was about $165. I'm not personally interested in the 23, but the juice is in fact getting onto the shelves. He said there were 9 bottles total in the city.


$165 for the 23 yo is dirt cheap...the cheapest i've found is $200

dmarkle
02-24-2011, 05:24
Bravo, everyone. Into our fifth page in two days.

You might as well just get the moderators to take down the "Straight Bourbon.com" graphic and put up the Old Rip branding on this site. There are many members of the cult here.

SMOWK
02-24-2011, 09:28
You might as well just get the moderators to take down the "Straight Bourbon.com" graphic and put up the Old Rip branding on this site. There are many members of the cult here.

I drink the kool-aid sparingly. As it seems they are running short.

chefnash51
02-24-2011, 09:47
I drink the kool-aid sparingly. As it seems they are running short.

yes, it depends on who made the kool-aid.

dmarkle
02-24-2011, 12:00
I drink the kool-aid sparingly. As it seems they are running short.

If I could only find their 15 year old Kool-aid...!

flintlock
02-24-2011, 20:06
You might as well just get the moderators to take down the "Straight Bourbon.com" graphic and put up the Old Rip branding on this site. There are many members of the cult here.

Lots of cults here - that's just one of them.

squire
02-24-2011, 20:39
Cults? Nooo, nothing like that around here, uh-huh (Squire types one handed while sitting on crossed fingers).

Beer&Bourbon
02-24-2011, 21:32
Does the spring allocation include bottles of VWFRR, too?

Thanks for the heads up. I've only got one bottle right now, which is quickly fading. Now I've got the full allotment reserved at my local shop (she expected 5-6 bottles).

Medicfrost
02-25-2011, 09:19
I've got a good stock of 15, but may still pick up a bottle or two in case it takes a long while to release them again. It's not my favorite pour, but it seems to be my second favorite. Not sure how Van Winkle does it, but the barrels must be laced with crack, because I'm even carrying around their products wherever I go suddenly, and I've never been fond of carrying my own liquor. Takes away too much room from my gun.

SMOWK
02-25-2011, 10:54
I'm looking for cases, not bottles...:cool:

Tony
02-25-2011, 11:04
Howdy All:

I hope you are well.

sounds like it is time to head down to my local store and see if they can get me some. I wonder if I can call Michigan liquor control and find out where they are going?

Best regards, tony

OscarV
02-25-2011, 11:28
I wonder if I can call Michigan liquor control and find out where they are going?





From what I hear MI will get some in March, most likely the second week.

Tony
02-25-2011, 13:10
Thanks, appreciate the heads up. Will have to ask my local guy to try and get me some.


From what I hear MI will get some in March, most likely the second week.

Halifax
02-25-2011, 14:01
I'm looking for cases, not bottles...:cool:

You and I think alike... I stumbled into a store yesterday that had 3 bottles of PVW15. Felt darn lucky to snag them. About an hour later I popped into another store that had 2 PVW20 tagged $82.99. They have a new home as well. Woohoo...

B.B. Babington
02-25-2011, 22:05
...and I've never been fond of carrying my own liquor. Takes away too much room from my gun.
when SHTF, the bottle makes any situation better.

Medicfrost
02-25-2011, 22:18
when SHTF, the bottle makes any situation better.

Only if it numbs the holes I leave in them, but i'm not big on sharing with strangers.

DeanSheen
02-25-2011, 23:22
Only if it numbs the holes I leave in them, but i'm not big on sharing with strangers.

So self defense because murder would not be funny.

cowdery
02-26-2011, 00:28
Whereas killing people in self-defense is hysterical.

SMOWK
02-26-2011, 10:43
A Darwin Award Candidate:

The following mind-boggling attempt at a crime spree in Seattle, Washington appeared to be the robber's first (and last), due to his lack of a previous record of violence, and his terminally stupid choices:

1. His target was H&J Leather & Firearms, A gun shop specializing in handguns.

2. The shop was full of customers - firearms customers.

3. To enter the shop, the robber had to step around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door.

4. A uniformed officer was standing at the counter, having coffee before work.

5. Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up, and fired a few wild shots from a .22 target pistol. The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, the police officer with a 9mm Glock 17, the clerk with a .50 Desert Eagle, assisted by several customers who also drew their guns, several of whom also fired, The robber was
pronounced dead at the scene by Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt in the exchange of fire.

callmeox
02-26-2011, 11:48
A Darwin Award Candidate:


Thank you for the embellished (http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp) urban legend from 1990 that's not really appropriate for a Van Winkle thread.

No VW products in Ohio. Perhaps I'll see one or two on the shelf elsewhere.

Either way, I'll live if miss out.

SMOWK
02-26-2011, 11:52
23 gunshot wounds, Pappy 23, I thought that qualified as on topic. :lol:

autiger23
03-04-2011, 08:11
Anyone see any shipments yet?

Wondering when it will hit most places.

bourbonNOOG
03-04-2011, 08:15
It seems like here in TN, although we are close to KY, we seem to be a month or so behind others as far as allocations are concerned. There have been numerous times I've read about KY, OH, IL releases and inquired all over town, only to be told they haven't head anything and will check into it. KCSB only hit the shelves here about 2 weeks ago.

IronHead
03-04-2011, 16:34
I have called a few stores here in Louisville. None have any or can say when they will be getting any VW products. "Should be soon" is about the best I've gotten.

squire
03-04-2011, 23:29
A shrug of the shoulders is all I'm getting.

jburlowski
03-05-2011, 04:24
I have called a few stores here in Louisville. None have any or can say when they will be getting any VW products. "Should be soon" is about the best I've gotten.

That's strange since they came (and are gone) to No KY a week ago.

Hawg73
03-05-2011, 04:55
I found some ORVW 10 yo in NY and picked up a couple.

dmarkle
03-05-2011, 07:08
That's strange since they came (and are gone) to No KY a week ago.

Oh noes! I was planning on a road trip to KY to pick some up. Guess I need to start combing Maryland instead.

whitejc1
03-05-2011, 11:16
I've been to all the stores in Lexington and no one has received any and they don't know when it's coming. I have reserved PVW 15's at a couple of stores who said they would hold the bottles and call me when it comes in. I'm following Liquor Barn on facebook. They always post when their shipments arrive. I have a friend there I've asked to put, at least, one PVW 15, PVW 20 and Lot B aside for me when the delivery comes in.

silverfish
03-05-2011, 12:18
I found some ORVW 10 yo in NY and picked up a couple.

I can find both the Old Rip 90 ($33.) and 107 ($38.) in my area (Western NY).
I recently picked up six bottles of PVW 15 and have another 5 on hold to ship
later this month. My guess is these are all "leftovers" from the last allotment
and not from any Spring release (we're probably more of a "shot & a beer"
kinda area as opposed to high end release kinda town - not that there's
anything wrong with that....)

Also still on the shelves are Lot B ($47.), PVW 20 ($100.), & PVW 23 ($210.)
(not bragging - I wish I could pick those up too but am "limiting" myself to the
PVW15.)

tommyboy38
03-05-2011, 12:33
I hear it's all sold out everywhere so you can all just stop now and forget about it and DO NOT GO LOOKING FOR ANY.

dmarkle
03-05-2011, 13:14
I hear it's all sold out everywhere so you can all just stop now and forget about it and DO NOT GO LOOKING FOR ANY.

That's what I hear. It's especially true everywhere near where I live, so everyone might as well give up in the MD/DC/VA area :-)

snifred
03-05-2011, 14:27
That's what I hear. It's especially true everywhere near where I live, so everyone might as well give up in the MD/DC/VA area :-)

I just found two bottles in MD on Monday. One store had one on the shelf behind the counter and another didn't have them out but I asked and they grabbed it from the back. Don't give up already!

snowrs
03-05-2011, 14:45
One store near me had 6 bottles of Lot B but for 67 it is a pass. Sorry I liked it even at 50 but prices are just getting a bit too insane.

jmpyle
03-05-2011, 16:24
That's what I hear. It's especially true everywhere near where I live, so everyone might as well give up in the MD/DC/VA area :-)

I like the way you think David. :lol:

IronHead
03-05-2011, 20:47
That's strange since they came (and are gone) to No KY a week ago.

Strange indeed. I started calling stores a couple of weeks ago and every one of them said they had none of the Spring release in yet.

biskuit
03-06-2011, 08:52
All the Atlanta buyers I've spoken with have said they've not heard (nor received) anything yet...

cowdery
03-06-2011, 11:11
Julian is a smart man so I'm sure he is being smart about distribution. Since it's impossible to reallocate distribution once it's out there, you have to send it out in waves.

The way allocation works is that you collect orders in advance of a release, decide how much you have to release, and say to everybody, "Okay, you will receive 2/3 as many bottles as you ordered," or 3/4, whatever it is. You put those out, let the distributors and stores see how they really move. Then do it again.

While as the producer you would like every bottle to go home in the hands of a happy consumer shortly after it gets in the store, they don't really care if it sells through or not. They get paid by the distributor, not by the retailer. If the bottle sits on the shelf the only person that hurts is the retailer and he probably won't buy more if he has any languishing, and that's how the invisible hand of the market rationalizes the distribution of rare and precisios whiskeys.

RyanL
03-11-2011, 16:12
Anyone have an idea how easy this will be to get in the Louisville area? Like how much will actually hit the shelves as opposed to just being set aside for the best customers/people on a list and how many places carry it? I'm thinking about driving down but have no idea how much I should expect to see down there. I just kinda assume a decent bit more than I will see in St. Louis though.

biskuit
03-11-2011, 18:22
Another Atlanta buyer said Georgia would not be part of any spring release, not confirmed, but that was his impression.

jcg9779
03-12-2011, 11:37
Biskuit - you've heard it won't even be distributed to Georgia? Or that stores here are passing on it?

biskuit
03-12-2011, 12:50
Biskuit - you've heard it won't even be distributed to Georgia? Or that stores here are passing on it?

This particular buyer said he heard there was no allocation for Georgia in this release. I can't imagine any store passing on it! That said, I talked to H&F Bottle Shop and they do expect to get some inventory in for their opening in a few weeks (they are open selling wine now, waiting final permits for spirits) - they thought it would be everything but the rye for some reason.

autiger23
03-12-2011, 12:53
This particular buyer said he heard there was no allocation for Georgia in this release. I can't imagine any store passing on it! That said, I talked to H&F Bottle Shop and they do expect to get some inventory in for their opening in a few weeks (they are open selling wine now, waiting final permits for spirits) - they thought it would be everything but the rye for some reason.

Not what I heard from my distributor of what is likely the largest liquor supplier in Atlanta. He has never not had a Old Rip line allocation, got 6 bottles of 15, 2 20's and 4 10/107's before Christmas from him.

squire
03-12-2011, 13:21
My local retailers say no word yet.

silverfish
03-16-2011, 08:20
I recently grabbed the last four PVW 15s from a local store and
received the following reply to my inquiry of a Spring release:

"I did however speak with the distributor and we will be
receiving more in the next few weeks."

autiger23
03-16-2011, 13:12
Posted today by the Distillery, Spring allocation numbers are done. Shipments to distributors should commence soon.

Not exactly the quickest, almost a month since bottling and still not shipped. Hope they get them out in the next two weeks!

autiger23
03-16-2011, 13:40
There is going to be NO 13yr Rye in this allocation also.

flintlock
03-16-2011, 22:15
Posted today by the Distillery, Spring allocation numbers are done. Shipments to distributors should commence soon.

Not exactly the quickest, almost a month since bottling and still not shipped. Hope they get them out in the next two weeks!

How do you get this info? Is this on the PVW website?

BMartin42
03-16-2011, 22:18
How do you get this info? Is this on the PVW website?

It was on their facebook page.

bourbonNOOG
03-17-2011, 06:29
I too saw that there was going to be no rye with this release and was personally crushed by this news. I can only hope to get a PVW 15 or 2.

dmarkle
03-17-2011, 07:13
I too saw that there was going to be no rye with this release and was personally crushed by this news. I can only hope to get a PVW 15 or 2.

That would be consolation enough for me. I love the VW rye, but I can drown my sorrows in Saz 18 if I have to. There just is no substitute for the Pappy van Winkle 15. There's nothing else like it to be found anywhere AFAIK. And no, the JRP doesn't count. The 15-16 yo Stitzel Weller Pappy just *sings* at 107 proof.

SMOWK
03-17-2011, 08:57
The 15-16 yo Stitzel Weller Pappy just *sings* at 107 proof.

I find it's more of the sound of an angel appearing from the clouds than any sort of singing as we earthlings know it.

squire
03-17-2011, 09:12
No Rye, ahh man.

DeanSheen
03-17-2011, 10:13
No Rye, ahh man.

Ditto. Given limited funds and plenty of both on a fictitious store shelf I buy more rye.

Hawg73
03-17-2011, 10:19
I'll be happy to take what I can get! :)

bourbonNOOG
03-29-2011, 10:58
According to facebook:

"The Georgia allocation has shipped!"

The south is getting some Van Winkle. Now, if only I can find me some.

tehbeardman
03-29-2011, 13:00
They also made a comment under that same post that they would be giving updates as other regions shipped out. :bowdown:

autiger23
03-29-2011, 14:43
According to facebook:
"The Georgia allocation has shipped!"

The south is getting some Van Winkle. Now, if only I can find me some.

I should be hearing if the store I normally do business with will have their normal spring allocation. Keeping fingers crossed.

wripvanwrinkle
03-29-2011, 14:56
As if to affirm my general whiskey dementia...it was the promise of these Spring shipment notices that has finally caused me to sign up for facebook.

jfw
03-29-2011, 19:44
As if to affirm my general whiskey dementia...it was the promise of these Spring shipment notices that has finally caused me to sign up for facebook.

Me too! :lol:

PS: Don't disable the feed from your wife's account. That apparently is facebook rude. Who knew? But in my defense, she was clogging up the info from Binny's, Shoppers Vineyard, Angel's Envy and Old Rip Van Winkle.

squire
03-29-2011, 20:36
I just hope the supply holds out as it trickles South.

Enoch
03-30-2011, 07:38
Just got word that South Carolina will be getting an allocation.

bourbonNOOG
03-30-2011, 08:14
Facebook page states that KY will have their by Friday.

autiger23
04-01-2011, 12:09
Early pricing I got in one of Atlanta's bigger stores for spring allocation...

$45.99 for 10/107
$70.99 for 15 yr
$99.99 for 20yr

jcg9779
04-01-2011, 12:21
Early pricing I got in one of Atlanta's bigger stores for spring allocation...

$45.99 for 10/107
$70.99 for 15 yr
$99.99 for 20yr

Hopefully I can get some 15 and 20!

chefnash51
04-01-2011, 12:27
Just found out that CT is not getting any 20 year Pappy. Good thing I'm after the 15 on this release.

autiger23
04-04-2011, 11:54
Just out of curiosity, if you had to choose at a liquor store the 15 year or the 20 year without the $30 difference in price being an issue which would you choose.

I still favor the 15.

chefnash51
04-04-2011, 12:47
Just out of curiosity, if you had to choose at a liquor store the 15 year or the 20 year without the $30 difference in price being an issue which would you choose.

I still favor the 15.


15 hands down ! !

SMOWK
04-04-2011, 15:39
The 20 and 15 are quite different. I always buy both.

squire
04-04-2011, 16:18
The 15 and not glance back.

SMOWK
04-04-2011, 16:26
The 15 and not glance back.

I glance back once or twice to make sure there aren't any more 15s hiding behind other bottles.

squire
04-04-2011, 16:28
Right, never hurts to double check.

tommyboy38
04-04-2011, 18:05
If they're the same price, I'd buy equal numbers of each.

RyanL
04-05-2011, 08:20
The following allocations have recently shipped:
Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Southern Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont.

That was posted on their FB page 21 hours ago.

Has anyone in those areas received a call yet or seen any yet?

T Comp
04-05-2011, 09:04
Members of SB that want to make sure there may be some Van Winkle left for yourself may want to consider communicating through PM. Recent checks of "Who's Online" (I love this option) show this topic seems to be frequented quite a bit by outsiders. Around here, for the last allotment, it disappeared at a frenzied pace that several experienced store owners related they had never seen before. I have no problem with being cliquish within SB when it comes to great whiskey.

squire
04-05-2011, 10:03
And not tell them where else to look.

flintlock
04-07-2011, 05:53
The following allocations have recently shipped:
Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Southern Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont.

That was posted on their FB page 21 hours ago.

Has anyone in those areas received a call yet or seen any yet?

Schwing! :grin:

RyanL
04-07-2011, 10:39
Members of SB that want to make sure there may be some Van Winkle left for yourself may want to consider communicating through PM. Recent checks of "Who's Online" (I love this option) show this topic seems to be frequented quite a bit by outsiders. Around here, for the last allotment, it disappeared at a frenzied pace that several experienced store owners related they had never seen before. I have no problem with being cliquish within SB when it comes to great whiskey.


Fair enough, though I'm basically just looking for a confirmation that people are actually seeing it in stores. Anyway, I'm going to be driving through KY and TN this weekend and am going to be on the lookout. If anyone here has actually seen any out already and wants to PM me that would be great(I don't expect anyone to tell me where exactly, I just haven't talked to any store that has actually gotten any in from the distributor lately so I feel like I'm still a bit early on my search). If you're looking for it as well you can PM me and if I run across some I can let you know it's out as I will only be in TN for the weekend and after that the area will be back off my radar.

shaggy
04-07-2011, 11:42
Stopped by Buffalo Trace gift shop today and the last of their allocation was gone. The lady working there said the last bottle of 15 walked out the door today.

autiger23
04-08-2011, 15:37
Interested to hear everyone's new purchase prices for the spring allocation?

sailor22
04-09-2011, 19:32
Paid $70 for Pappy 15 in South Ga. today.

Khari
04-09-2011, 22:46
I paid the same price for 15 and $120 for the 20 in Atlanta. This was last weekend.

kickert
04-09-2011, 23:17
Interested to hear everyone's new purchase prices for the spring allocation?

Paid $56 for the 15 here in the motherland.

autiger23
04-10-2011, 19:58
Paid $56 for the 15 here in the motherland.

Lucky, must be nice up there.

kickert
04-10-2011, 20:41
Lucky, must be nice up there.

Normally that isn't the case (at least not here in Bowling Green.) I often find it cheaper out of state -- even in control states. I just happened into a small store hoping to score some dusties and found it priced well. Normally the Pappy 15 is around $75.

RyanL
04-10-2011, 20:53
Got lucky today and found a store in a small town with 3 bottles left from their Fall 2010 allocation still and got them at Fall 2010 prices. Now I'm preparing myself to pay higher prices in the coming weeks. So it goes though.

jcg9779
04-12-2011, 14:03
Interested to hear everyone's new purchase prices for the spring allocation?

Spring Allocation:

PVW 15 for $75
PVW 20 for $120

The PVW 23 was left on the shelf at $320.

wripvanwrinkle
04-12-2011, 15:11
It is interesting. The local BT Rep and/or distributor seems to be telling the liquor stores that there is no Colorado Spring allocation. The stores are being told that "some website is spreading a rumor.". :rolleyes:

wripvanwrinkle
04-12-2011, 18:25
It is interesting. The local BT Rep and/or distributor seems to be telling the liquor stores that there is no Colorado Spring allocation. The stores are being told that "some website is spreading a rumor.". :rolleyes:

Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to edit my own post. To be clearer...that is no spring allocation to Colorado...rather than no allocation to Colorado Springs. Darn lies, either way.

stevegoz
04-12-2011, 19:02
Spring Allocation:

PVW 15 for $75
PVW 20 for $120

The PVW 23 was left on the shelf at $320.

Saw some 23 today for $240, I believe -- two bottles. At a place that wanted $80 for the 15 and $110 for the 20. (I paid $90 for the 20 at a different store a week and a half ago.) Struck out in my quest to find the rye on my quick lunchtime expedition.

RyanL
04-12-2011, 20:54
I have a question for anyone that shops at the various Binny's in Chicago. Will they actually put any Pappy 15 or 20 on the shelf or is it only available by reserving a bottle? I called the whiskey hotline and was told I could reserve a bottle which would be great, except Chicago is a 4 hour drive. I dont mind making the drive but if I'm going to do that I would like to be able to pick up a few bottles of it instead of just 1.

Brisko
04-13-2011, 07:45
Still looking for the 15 but I've seen 20s for $120 and 23s for $199.

stevegoz
04-13-2011, 08:21
I have a question for anyone that shops at the various Binny's in Chicago. Will they actually put any Pappy 15 or 20 on the shelf or is it only available by reserving a bottle? I called the whiskey hotline and was told I could reserve a bottle which would be great, except Chicago is a 4 hour drive. I dont mind making the drive but if I'm going to do that I would like to be able to pick up a few bottles of it instead of just 1.

Do you reserve through the hotline, or through an individual store? (AFAIK, product has to be kept at individual stores and can't be transferred from store to store.) If the latter, you could reserve through multiple stores, no? There are at least five Binny's locations within a 10-mile radius of my house....

autiger23
04-13-2011, 08:35
Latest....


Tennessee (Chattanooga), Connecticut, Delaware, South Florida, Louisiana, Maryland, New Jersey, South Carolina, Texas (Houston & San Antonio), Wisconsin, and Wyoming orders have shipped. Check your local retailers soon.

chefnash51
04-13-2011, 09:45
Latest....


Tennessee (Chattanooga), Connecticut, Delaware, South Florida, Louisiana, Maryland, New Jersey, South Carolina, Texas (Houston & San Antonio), Wisconsin, and Wyoming orders have shipped. Check your local retailers soon.


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the less lurkers that know, the better! :duel:

RyanL
04-13-2011, 21:21
Interested to hear everyone's new purchase prices for the spring allocation?

Just picked up the following today: ORVW90 and 107 for $30ea, 15 for $54, and 20 for $90. Hope I continue seeing these prices in my area.:grin:

White Dog
04-13-2011, 21:46
1 week ago, a retailer friend of mine was told by the distributor that he was getting 3 bottles of Pappy 15 in the coming weeks.

Just today he was told, "Sorry, but everyone's allocation was cut. You'll now be getting 1 lot B, 1 15yr, and 1 23yr. As I was set to receive one of the 15s, I was as pissed as he was.:hot: :hot:

RyanL
04-13-2011, 23:08
I realize its not being released this spring but what are the typical prices on the VWFRR? Ive never seen it in a store before so don't know how much it typically goes for.

bourbonNOOG
04-14-2011, 05:22
Flintlock, start your engines. The hunt is on. I shall keep you posted if I see any of this around town:

Per ORVW facebook page:
Tennessee (Chattanooga), Connecticut, Delaware, South Florida, Louisiana, Maryland, New Jersey, South Carolina, Texas (Houston & San Antonio), Wisconsin, and Wyoming orders have shipped. Check your local retailers soon.

jcg9779
04-14-2011, 08:33
Flintlock, start your engines. The hunt is on. I shall keep you posted if I see any of this around town

I might need to make a trip just north of the GA border this weekend...haha

silverfish
04-14-2011, 09:19
Interested to hear everyone's new purchase prices for the spring allocation?

New York has yet to receive the Spring allocation but bottles of the
Fall 2010 (?) release are still on the shelves at the following prices:

Lot B 12 year - $47.
PVW 20 - $105.
PVW 23 -$210.

(I passed on the lot B only because I was able to grab a stash from a store
that had some priced at $36.99 - "reduced for quick sale". Yeah, real quick!)

IowaJeff
04-18-2011, 10:24
My store here in DSM got the 10, 12, and 15 in on Friday. Methinks they got 12 bottles of each.

p_elliott
04-19-2011, 08:28
My store here in DSM got the 10, 12, and 15 in on Friday. Methinks they got 12 bottles of each.

This would have to be a special order as Iowa got no Allocation.

IowaJeff
04-19-2011, 08:38
This would have to be a special order as Iowa got no Allocation.

Yep. Everything not on the paltry state list is special order.

thebigsmooth
04-20-2011, 16:44
Very jealous of you guys. Here in West Michigan next to impossible to find any. 2 yrs ago I found a bottle of Lot B and picked it up for about $50. That was my first run in with PVW. Fell in love with it. Since then could never find it.

2 weeks ago came across another bottle of Lot B and grabbed it but it was $69. Haven't even opened it yet as it is such a treat to have. The only other bottle I found was the 23yr for $221. Would love to find more Lot B and try the 15 and 20yr.

Parkersback
04-20-2011, 16:55
Very jealous of you guys. Here in West Michigan next to impossible to find any. 2 yrs ago I found a bottle of Lot B and picked it up for about $50. That was my first run in with PVW. Fell in love with it. Since then could never find it.

2 weeks ago came across another bottle of Lot B and grabbed it but it was $69. Haven't even opened it yet as it is such a treat to have. The only other bottle I found was the 23yr for $221. Would love to find more Lot B and try the 15 and 20yr.

Bigsmooth, welcome to SB.

I see you live in W. Mich. If you ever have occasion to go to Chicago, I'd order a case of Weller 12 from Binny's and drive to Chicago to get it. The cost would be way less per bottle than the Lot B (especially if you were already going to be there) and I think the difference between Lot B and Weller 12 is negligible. I know others may disagree, and I can respect that. But if you didn't know, Weller 12 and Lot B are essentially the same whiskey: same mashbill distilled at the same distillery, aging in the same barrels for the same amount of time. The difference, as I understand it, is that Julian Van Winkle gets first dibs at picking the barrels for Lot B.

thebigsmooth
04-20-2011, 19:21
Bigsmooth, welcome to SB.

I see you live in W. Mich. If you ever have occasion to go to Chicago, I'd order a case of Weller 12 from Binny's and drive to Chicago to get it. The cost would be way less per bottle than the Lot B (especially if you were already going to be there) and I think the difference between Lot B and Weller 12 is negligible. I know others may disagree, and I can respect that. But if you didn't know, Weller 12 and Lot B are essentially the same whiskey: same mashbill distilled at the same distillery, aging in the same barrels for the same amount of time. The difference, as I understand it, is that Julian Van Winkle gets first dibs at picking the barrels for Lot B.

Thanks for the advice. I will look into getting a bottle and giving it a try.

timd
04-21-2011, 09:50
Thanks for the advice. I will look into getting a bottle and giving it a try.

My experience (YMMV):
Lot B & 12 yr side-by-side: Lot B is richer & juicier, notably "better" in terms of overall flavor and fulfillment, but not by a huge margin. But still noticeable in this context.

Lot B & 12 yr NOT side-by-side, a few days/weeks apart: There's a difference? Can't tell it on my memory, and would fail a blind taste test most likely.

Lot B - very hard to find, limited quantities, $50
Weller 12 - everywhere, all the time, $20

Do I buy a bottle of Lot B now and then? Yep. But I don't covet it like I did before I got the Weller 12.

FWIW: I also think ORVW 10/107 is better than either of them at $25, and I think Weller 107 is great at $22.

autiger23
04-21-2011, 09:54
My experience (YMMV):
Lot B & 12 yr side-by-side: Lot B is richer & juicier, notably "better" in terms of overall flavor and fulfillment, but not by a huge margin. But still noticeable in this context.

Lot B & 12 yr NOT side-by-side, a few days/weeks apart: There's a difference? Can't tell it on my memory, and would fail a blind taste test most likely.

Lot B - very hard to find, limited quantities, $50
Weller 12 - everywhere, all the time, $20

Do I buy a bottle of Lot B now and then? Yep. But I don't covet it like I did before I got the Weller 12.

FWIW: I also think ORVW 10/107 is better than either of them at $25, and I think Weller 107 is great at $22.

Where the heck have you been getting 10/107 for $25, not seen anyone post that price for years. Sure in hell are none in the south, up the east coast and midwest unless that retailer had a massive price mistake.

McKinney
04-21-2011, 10:13
Thank you for the discussion on Lot B and Weller 12. I have a bottle of Weller 12 at home and was contemplating picking up a bottle of Lot B at my favorite local store. They had four or five bottles but the price put me off since I have one bottle each of PVW 15 and 20 left over from a couple of years ago I've been saving. I think I may just crack open the Weller 12 and put the funds I'd set aside for Lot B to another bottle.

Now if I could just find some VWFRR I'd be happy. I saw on this thread there is no spring allocation so I guess that explains why I haven't seen it in any store I've visited in both Georgia and Tennessee.

timd
04-21-2011, 11:56
Where the heck have you been getting 10/107 for $25, not seen anyone post that price for years. Sure in hell are none in the south, up the east coast and midwest unless that retailer had a massive price mistake.
Goody Goody in Dallas is usually $23-$26 (latest batch isn't here yet, but I paid $24.99 in June), Specs in Houston & Austin is $29.99 as of last weekend with current batch, and they run a bit more than Goody Goody.

FWIW: Sigels in Dallas sells it for $30-$35 when they get it.

StraightNoChaser
04-21-2011, 12:04
So I've decided on my shopping list

VWFR12 - 2 bottles
PVW15 - 3 bottles
PVW20 - 1 bottle
PVW23 - 1 bottle
ORVW - ANY bottles

I just want to have one of each... just to look at... and to hold hands with... and to cuddle softly at night...

StraightNoChaser
04-21-2011, 12:09
Thank you for the discussion on Lot B and Weller 12. I have a bottle of Weller 12 at home and was contemplating picking up a bottle of Lot B at my favorite local store. They had four or five bottles but the price put me off since I have one bottle each of PVW 15 and 20 left over from a couple of years ago I've been saving. I think I may just crack open the Weller 12 and put the funds I'd set aside for Lot B to another bottle.

Now if I could just find some VWFRR I'd be happy. I saw on this thread there is no spring allocation so I guess that explains why I haven't seen it in any store I've visited in both Georgia and Tennessee.
I just scored a bottle of the Rye in Kentucky about two weeks ago. I felt so lucky, just about made my year

RyanL
04-21-2011, 12:28
I just scored a bottle of the Rye in Kentucky about two weeks ago. I felt so lucky, just about made my year

You definitely are. They didn't release any this spring so it's been sitting on the shelves since Fall unless you got it another way. I've gotten a decent amount of 15/20 from Spring but would put a few of those back for a bottle of the rye. I tried it a couple of weeks ago and was blown away.

McKinney
04-21-2011, 12:46
StraightNoChaser, please, please, oh please tell me where you scored some VWFRRR in Kentucky! I'm going to my grandparents' place in Kentucky for Memorial Day so I'm looking for any place on the way or within a semi-reasonable distance that might have a bottle. Thank you in advance.

gblick
04-21-2011, 15:28
It has arrived here in Houston.
I was on a waiting list, and I got a call this morning saying that it had arrived. Had a job downtown today so I didn't even have to go out of my way to pick it up. They would only let go of one bottle of each expression per customer, so I got a Pappy 15 and an ORVW 10/107. Cash prices were $52.89 for the 15yo and $34.65 for the 10/107. That was more than I ever spent for the 10/107 but oh well.

wripvanwrinkle
04-21-2011, 16:30
Interesting, Houston ships on April 13th and hits the stores today. Colorado ships on April 4th and the distributor claims to have never had it in their warehouse.

What has 2 thumbs and is unhappy with it's distributor?

jcg9779
04-21-2011, 17:00
It has arrived here in Houston.
I was on a waiting list, and I got a call this morning saying that it had arrived. Had a job downtown today so I didn't even have to go out of my way to pick it up. They would only let go of one bottle of each expression per customer, so I got a Pappy 15 and an ORVW 10/107. Cash prices were $52.89 for the 15yo and $34.65 for the 10/107. That was more than I ever spent for the 10/107 but oh well.

You're lucky...ORVW and PVW are very expensive in Georgia, for some reason. By and large I think our prices are competitive, with the exception of this line. PVW 15 was going for $70 to $75 for the spring allocation , and I always see ORVW 10/107 for $49.99 here. NYC has very high prices for bourbon, but when I was up there in February I was able to pick up an ORVW 10/107 for around $37.

stevegoz
04-21-2011, 18:09
My local has a whole lot of 20 and a few Lot Bs on the shelf, but claimed today that there's no 15 to be had this spring.

nivto
04-21-2011, 18:22
My local has a whole lot of 20 and a few Lot Bs on the shelf, but claimed today that there's no 15 to be had this spring.

Hmm... I ran into a similar situation in a local store where the shelves were loaded with 10 and 23 year olds, but when asked if they had any 15, 20, or Rye... I was told "no we didn't get any in". I found out that I just needed to ask the right guy working the store, and all of a sudden I magically had my hands on Pappy 15 and Rye.

autiger23
04-21-2011, 21:35
Hmm... I ran into a similar situation in a local store where the shelves were loaded with 10 and 23 year olds, but when asked if they had any 15, 20, or Rye... I was told "no we didn't get any in". I found out that I just needed to ask the right guy working the store, and all of a sudden I magically had my hands on Pappy 15 and Rye.

Well that Rye didnt come in the spring allocation.

Today 3 were 2 pvw for $64.99 and $69.99 while the 10/107 was $44.99. Argh jealous of those prices.

nivto
04-22-2011, 11:50
Well that Rye didnt come in the spring allocation.


I wasn't talking about this current release. I'm just saying it doesn't hurt to develop a relationship with your local stores, because otherwise they might lie straight to your face.

Anyway the store I'm waiting for gets in pappy 15 for $60, lot b for $47, and 10/107 for $34. Any day now, hopefully.

timd
04-22-2011, 12:38
I'm just saying it doesn't hurt to develop a relationship with your local stores.

And that one phrase sums up the entire secret to obtaining Pappy (and BTAC) on a regular basis.

It's all about the relationships. There's obvious exceptions, but this is really what it boils down to.

bcrossan
04-23-2011, 14:55
in Austin I have been paying between $53 and $50 for the 15yr. 20 is $99 and 23 is $199

silverfish
04-23-2011, 15:12
in Austin I have been paying between $53 and $50 for the 15yr. 20 is $99 and 23 is $199

Those prices are in line with Western NY - the 15 is gone but the
20 ($105.) the 23 ($210.) (from the last release) are still around.
The 10/107 is still here for $38., Lot B for $53. and Rye for $55.

MarkEdwards
04-23-2011, 15:22
Was just informed by the owner of my favorite liquor store, that the shipment of booze that also had his allocation of Pappy 15 in it was hijacked.:shocked:

I must make that bottle last me awhile, or find another source in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Neither he nor I are very happy with the hijackers.

jcg9779
04-23-2011, 16:12
I know where some Van Winkle 12 Yr. is located in Atlanta, if anyone is looking. PM me if you'd like to know.

autiger23
04-25-2011, 10:05
A facebook poster asked about rumor's of the spring release for the 15yr being the last ever and it going to the orvw15 bottle, the answer to the question from their official poster for the distillery said....

"Not in the least. Who knows where this stuff comes from. If you did not hear it from us, take it with a grain of salt."

silverfish
04-25-2011, 12:40
... official poster for the distillery said....

"Not in the least. Who knows where this stuff comes from. If you did not hear it from us, take it with a grain of salt."

Facebook reply to an inquiry as to what will be offered in the Fall 2011:

"The complete line will be offered again in the fall."

Virus_Of_Life
04-25-2011, 12:43
A facebook poster asked about rumor's of the spring release for the 15yr being the last ever and it going to the orvw15 bottle, the answer to the question from their official poster for the distillery said....

"Not in the least. Who knows where this stuff comes from. If you did not hear it from us, take it with a grain of salt."
Wasn't that where the rumor started to begin with?


Facebook reply to an inquiry as to what will be offered in the Fall 2011:

"The complete line will be offered again in the fall."
Complete line, but not saying what will be in the line... Just sayin'

TomH
04-25-2011, 13:04
Christian,

I talked with Julian and Preston at WhiskyFest and asked specifically about a transition from Pappy 15 back to ORVW 15 (and if you would be able to tell old ORVW 15 from the new - a concern for me since I have a few bottles of the old). They both stated unequivocally that they were not planning any change in the 15 YO product line at this time.

Tom

OscarV
04-25-2011, 13:09
Christian,
They both stated unequivocally that they were not planning any change in the 15 YO product line at this time.




Except adding some old Bernheim to Pappy 15.

TomH
04-25-2011, 13:15
OK, no change to the bottling names/labels.

I guess the other doesn't concern me as a change since I've not considered that the Pappy 15 was 100% SW since 2007 when Julian told me at that time they had released some Pappy 15 with BT product (posted here at that time).

Tom

silverfish
04-25-2011, 13:47
Complete line, but not saying what will be in the line... Just sayin'

For example, the PVWFR line comes out but could only include
the 20 & 23 years? (Not trying to start any rumors, just trying
to decrypt your meaning...)

Virus_Of_Life
04-25-2011, 15:25
Christian,

I talked with Julian and Preston at WhiskyFest and asked specifically about a transition from Pappy 15 back to ORVW 15 (and if you would be able to tell old ORVW 15 from the new - a concern for me since I have a few bottles of the old). They both stated unequivocally that they were not planning any change in the 15 YO product line at this time.

Tom

Thanks for sharing Tom. Kind of a bummer though, I was really enjoying reading about everyone running to the ends of the earth trying to get some! :slappin:

fishnbowljoe
04-25-2011, 17:04
A note about the provenance of the current Pappy 15. Straight from the horses mouth in a pm Julian sent me.

"Joe, if your question is, "Is the 15 year out now Stitzel-Weller whiskey"? Yes it is this year. Not sure about next year yet."


Cheers! Joe

hectic1
04-25-2011, 17:15
Thanks for confirming this publicly Joe...I personally think that once they switch to BT juice it won't be my desert island bourbon if the ORVW 10/107 is any indication. I have a 2004 ORVW 10/107 open as well as a 2010 ORVW 10/107 and those bourbons definitely aren't from the same profile. While the 2010 isn't bad it's a notch below the 2004. I'd guess the 2004 is Bernheim and the 2010 is BT.

cigarnv
04-25-2011, 18:27
The 10/107 would make an interesting tasting given how different the flavor profile seems to be over the years,,,, based on folks input. I just had the 2006 which was excellent...

silverfish
04-25-2011, 21:16
A note about the provenance of the current Pappy 15. Straight from the horses mouth in a pm Julian sent me.

"Joe, if your question is, "Is the 15 year out now Stitzel-Weller whiskey"? Yes it is this year. Not sure about next year yet."

Can I ask when the question was asked/PM sent?
This year - 2011?

fishnbowljoe
04-25-2011, 21:49
Yes this year. Asked on 2-22-11, and answered on 4-11-11. Joe

autiger23
04-25-2011, 22:08
Yes this year. Asked on 2-22-11, and answered on 4-11-11. Joe

Hope that takes care of the Fall 2011 allocation being apart of that SW. Glad to know all my 13 in bunker are.

dmarkle
04-26-2011, 05:04
Wasn't that where the rumor started to begin with?


Right. The ORVW poster on facebook made a comment (later taken down) that this year will be the last of the PVW 20. I'd thought they'd misspoken, and that this year will be the last of the PVW 15, in its current incarnation.

Honestly, I don't really care as long as they can maintain that incredible profile (though I'm scared!) It could be made from Bernheim, BT, ground up babies from local orphanages...

wripvanwrinkle
04-26-2011, 06:13
Right. The ORVW poster on facebook made a comment (later taken down) that this year will be the last of the PVW 20. I'd thought they'd misspoken, and that this year will be the last of the PVW 15, in its current incarnation.

For what it is worth. the ORVW comment that this is the last year for the 20 year is still on the page...

It was posted on Feb 18 in response to a Feb 17 post by "Chai Vang."

wripvanwrinkle
04-26-2011, 06:28
12137

(I meant to attach this to the above post.)

dmarkle
04-26-2011, 06:30
For what it is worth. the ORVW comment that this is the last year for the 20 year is still on the page...


Ah, thanks. I must have lost it somehow.

chefnash51
04-26-2011, 08:53
12137

(I meant to attach this to the above post.)


hey im in that picture! and my question was never answered!

silverfish
04-26-2011, 09:06
Yes this year. Asked on 2-22-11, and answered on 4-11-11. Joe

Thank you for clarifying!

Nice to know the Spring 2011 is still SW.
An even better reason to stock up!

wripvanwrinkle
04-26-2011, 09:41
To add further support, ORVW confirms on Facebook that the fall release of the PVW 15 is from the S-W bottling.

Parkersback
04-26-2011, 11:35
To add further support, ORVW confirms on Facebook that the fall release of the PVW 15 is from the S-W bottling.

To add further support, wripvanwinkle just reported in the post above that ORVW confirmed on Facebook that the fall release of the PVW 15 is from the S-W bottling.
:slappin:

wripvanwrinkle
04-26-2011, 15:13
To add further support, wripvanwinkle just reported in the post above that ORVW confirmed on Facebook that the fall release of the PVW 15 is from the S-W bottling.
:slappin:

:-P

Film at 11.

PappyVW23
04-27-2011, 14:46
just picked up a case of the 15 and a half case of the "B" in MD. Went on the shelf yesterday, and off today. Still hunting for the 20 and 23.

dmarkle
04-27-2011, 16:24
just picked up a case of the 15 and a half case of the "B" in MD. Went on the shelf yesterday, and off today. Still hunting for the 20 and 23.

Wow. How big is a "case"? I know the Antique collection bottles are boxed in threes. Is a case 6 or 12?

PappyVW23
04-27-2011, 16:53
12 bottles per case. picture here, post 349:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15573&page=35

RegChumpington
04-27-2011, 17:20
Seems like this may have come and gone from Southern California shelves already? I saw a couple of sellers you-know-where with SoCal as their location. Curious if anyone came away lucky... I apparently blinked. (sheesh)

dmarkle
04-27-2011, 20:56
To add further support, wripvanwinkle just reported in the post above that ORVW confirmed on Facebook that the fall release of the PVW 15 is from the S-W bottling.
:slappin:

I demand to see Julian van Winkle's birth certificate.

mpezdek
04-27-2011, 23:22
I've seen 20yr and 23yr arrive on shelves here in Vail over the last couple of weeks, no 15yr though...any other sightings in CO?

wripvanwrinkle
04-28-2011, 11:55
I've seen 20yr and 23yr arrive on shelves here in Vail over the last couple of weeks, no 15yr though...any other sightings in CO?

Hi Mpezdek,

Are you sure that the bottles just arrived? Or could it have been unsold inventory from the fall?

I have seen *nothing* in Denver. I speak weekly with 5 of the major retailers whom I have solid relationships with and some of the intermediate sized stores. The word on the street is that the distributor is holding the allocation to combine it with the fall release. I'm starting to beleive that rumor.

PappyVW23
04-28-2011, 12:44
haven't seen the 20 or 23 in my neck of the woods either.

jfw
04-28-2011, 13:03
Nope, haven't seen any new 20 or 23 here in MD or DE.

There is, however, still some left on the shelf from previous releases.

CorvallisCracker
04-28-2011, 15:21
- The Pappy Blues -

Can't git me no mo Pappy
Can't git mah fav'rit juice
I'll ne'r again be happy
I'm thinkin' 'bout a noose

A've prayed to them what's holy
Jehovah, Thor and Zeus
On me Vee Dub looks kindly
and cuts a little loose

They say for mah control state
though it don't treat 'em fair
they're still gonna a-LO-cate
a case they got to spare

Ah called the state control board
said "order that Pappy soon"
but the date they're leanin' toward
is sometime late in June

Thank lardbricks up in Salem
who just won't do their job
Vee Dub's gonna say "screw 'em"
and sell it all to Bob

Can't git me no mo Pappy
Can't git mah fav'rit juice
I'll ne'r again be happy
I'm thinkin' 'bout a noose

PappyVW23
04-28-2011, 20:57
help a brother out with the locations if you don't want it?


Nope, haven't seen any new 20 or 23 here in MD or DE.

There is, however, still some left on the shelf from previous releases.

HP12
04-28-2011, 21:07
According to our ABC manager, there is no spring allocation heading towards Virginia's stated owned and operated monopoly run stores.

CaptainQ
04-28-2011, 21:22
According to our ABC manager, there is no spring allocation heading towards Virginia's stated owned and operated monopoly run stores.

Not true according to the VanWinkle Facebook page:

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery "The Virginia order is in the system. It is up to them to schedule pickup. It will likely ship in the next week or two at the latest."
11 hours ago

HP12
04-28-2011, 21:28
Not true according to the VanWinkle Facebook page:

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery "The Virginia order is in the system. It is up to them to schedule pickup. It will likely ship in the next week or two at the latest."
11 hours ago

Thanks, I'll bird dog it and talk to another manager that might be more in the know.

CaptainQ
04-28-2011, 21:38
Thanks, I'll bird dog it and talk to another manager that might be more in the know.

Found this as well:

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery "Virginia will get 12 and 20 year. There is an order for 5 cases of 20yr in the system now. Would assume there will be more to follow."
April 13 at 8:41am

mpezdek
04-29-2011, 08:36
Hello wripvanwrinkle:

I too have been asking around and what I've been told is that some of the fall bottles were held for special accounts that recently became "open" allocations. A few stores and restaurants in the valley received some 20 and/or 23 year. I'll ask around about that rumor of spring bottles being held for the fall. BTW, do you know of any bars/restaurants in your area that serve the 15yr? Pm me. Thanks

HP12
04-29-2011, 09:08
Not true according to the VanWinkle Facebook page:

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery "The Virginia order is in the system. It is up to them to schedule pickup. It will likely ship in the next week or two at the latest."
11 hours ago

Capt'n, Can you post the link to the Facebook page where you read this. I can't find it. Thx in advance.

CaptainQ
04-29-2011, 10:30
Capt'n, Can you post the link to the Facebook page where you read this. I can't find it. Thx in advance.

Sure can: http://www.facebook.com/oldripvanwinkle

silverfish
04-29-2011, 10:38
Capt'n, Can you post the link to the Facebook page where you read this. I can't find it. Thx in advance.

Specifically, April 13th entry (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=166917903363360&id=725282487).

HP12
04-29-2011, 10:51
Sure can: http://www.facebook.com/oldripvanwinkle


Specifically, April 13th entry (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=166917903363360&id=725282487).

Thanks guys. Looks like just the two expressions with no 15. Good a time as any to try to get the others. Thx again.

jeanraulmitchell
05-03-2011, 02:45
I live in Los Angeles and I bought three bottles of 15 yo from a shop in TN and had my friend ship them to me. One-stop in Johnson City, TN, I left one. Doubt my friend will ship it to you though. Nice guy though and doesn't care for whiskey so it arrived safe.

As far as I know, the CA allocation isn't here. Anyone know when?


I feel lucky to have three right now.

chefnash51
05-03-2011, 07:38
I live in Los Angeles and I bought three bottles of 15 yo from a shop in TN and had my friend ship them to me. One-stop in Johnson City, TN, I left one. Doubt my friend will ship it to you though. Nice guy though and doesn't care for whiskey so it arrived safe.

As far as I know, the CA allocation isn't here. Anyone know when?


I feel lucky to have three right now.


CA seems to have gotten some, I ordered one the other day from CA

StraightNoChaser
05-03-2011, 17:19
anyone got a lead on the dallas allocation? it supposedly hit the distributor over a week ago now...

timd
05-03-2011, 19:01
anyone got a lead on the dallas allocation? it supposedly hit the distributor over a week ago now...

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

There is no joy in Whoville just yet...

2highcal
05-04-2011, 17:55
Just got my first bottle of PVW 15(the last at the store) it will have to wait a while to get opened and the WA Liquor Control Board does not list any in the state

jcg9779
05-08-2011, 05:42
anyone got a lead on the dallas allocation? it supposedly hit the distributor over a week ago now...

Any word yet on Dallas?

timd
05-09-2011, 09:57
Any word yet on Dallas?
Not yet - still waiting for it to hit the shelves...

Parkersback
05-09-2011, 18:55
I'm not a Facebooker, so any heads-up on the NY allocation would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

CaptainQ
05-09-2011, 20:24
I'm not a Facebooker, so any heads-up on the NY allocation would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

David Krane
Did NYC go out yet?
April 21 at 3:22pm

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery Yes, it should be there by the end of the week.
April 22 at 7:03am

David Krane Great! Can you tell me which which stores carry it? I've had trouble finding you.
April 22 at 7:42am

Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery Park Ave, Union Square, Astor, Beekmans are a few suggestions.
April 22 at 7:45am

David Krane Thx!
April 22 at 7:51am

Parkersback
05-09-2011, 20:55
CaptainQ, you sir are one friendly, helpful, extra sweet dude.

CaptainQ
05-09-2011, 22:16
Anytime Tom, glad I could be of service. :toast:

jcg9779
05-10-2011, 15:21
I'm not a Facebooker, so any heads-up on the NY allocation would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

I think you have now found your reason for joining Facebook! Screw the social networking features, it will help you in your quest for bourbon!

bgageus
05-10-2011, 15:27
New to this, but I was just able to get a bottle of Lot B, 15, and 20 I would like to put it together with one or 2 other bourbons for a tasting. I have a few friends like me that are new to this and we did a random tasting earlier of 6 bottles that we all had. I would like to create some order to this. If I understand right the PVW line is wheat bourbon? am I right? should I bring in 2 other wheats?

SMOWK
05-10-2011, 15:34
New to this, but I was just able to get a bottle of Lot B, 15, and 20 I would like to put it together with one or 2 other bourbons for a tasting. I have a few friends like me that are new to this and we did a random tasting earlier of 6 bottles that we all had. I would like to create some order to this. If I understand right the PVW line is wheat bourbon? am I right? should I bring in 2 other wheats?

If you and your friends are new to this, I suggest putting the Van Winkle's to the back of the shelf and buying something else for the tasting. Like many other high-end spirits, it's not something you're going to like right out of the gate.

jcg9779
05-10-2011, 15:38
New to this, but I was just able to get a bottle of Lot B, 15, and 20 I would like to put it together with one or 2 other bourbons for a tasting. I have a few friends like me that are new to this and we did a random tasting earlier of 6 bottles that we all had. I would like to create some order to this. If I understand right the PVW line is wheat bourbon? am I right? should I bring in 2 other wheats?


If you and your friends are new to this, I suggest putting the Van Winkle's to the back of the shelf and buying something else for the tasting. Like many other high-end spirits, it's not something you're going to like right out of the gate.

I agree with SMOWK. If you do want to include a Van Winkle product, you can keep the Lot B, but I'd definitely put the PVW15 and PVW20 back on your shelf. You could throw in another wheater, like OWA or Weller SR, and then maybe mix in a low rye and a high rye to see what y'all prefer in a blind taste test.

Enoch
05-11-2011, 10:00
The pappy is in in South Carolina. And strange but it is cheaper than last fall. I got 4 bottles of 15 year for $52 a bottle. It was $59 last fall. STrange because RNDC told me there was going to be a price hike.

wripvanwrinkle
05-11-2011, 18:08
The pappy is in in South Carolina. And strange but it is cheaper than last fall. I got 4 bottles of 15 year for $52 a bottle. It was $59 last fall. STrange because RNDC told me there was going to be a price hike.

Hi RNDC...is it time for you to release Colorado yet? Is it...is it?

jcg9779
05-11-2011, 19:06
Hi RNDC...is it time for you to release Colorado yet? Is it...is it?

Same question to RNDC, but for Dallas...is it time yet???

Enoch
05-12-2011, 05:31
I just called sales at RNDC SC and asked what day it would be in the stores and they told me. So, I showed up on that day.

bgageus
05-12-2011, 08:07
I agree with SMOWK. If you do want to include a Van Winkle product, you can keep the Lot B, but I'd definitely put the PVW15 and PVW20 back on your shelf. You could throw in another wheater, like OWA or Weller SR, and then maybe mix in a low rye and a high rye to see what y'all prefer in a blind taste test.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will see if I can save the PVW for when you come over.

timd
05-12-2011, 08:20
I just called sales at RNDC SC and asked what day it would be in the stores and they told me. So, I showed up on that day.
Sadly, they are playing allocation games here in Dallas, and it's not so easy. They say it's "in house" but no orders have been processed yet - even though all the stores have ordered it.

Games... all games.

Enoch
05-12-2011, 14:33
It may have to do with who the local RNDC sales manager is as to whether he wants to be informative. Also Columbia only has 4 stores that carry Pappy so that makes it easier.

StraightNoChaser
05-13-2011, 12:44
Sadly, they are playing allocation games here in Dallas, and it's not so easy. They say it's "in house" but no orders have been processed yet - even though all the stores have ordered it.

Games... all games.
I can't believe it's been 3 weeks since they got the shipment :smiley_acbt:

CADMixes
05-13-2011, 14:09
Don't know if someone already mentioned it in here, but Julio's in Westborough, MA is using a lottery system for the chance to buy some VW this spring. While funds prevented me from entering for any more than a single bottle of 12 year, I just got the e-mail that I'm a winner! Hey, I'll take what I can get.

brritscold
05-13-2011, 14:42
I'm not a Facebooker, so any heads-up on the NY allocation would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

I was waiting for my account to be activated before I could post this, but... YES, the NY stores have gotten in their shipments. I went last week and picked up some of the PVW 15 and lot B. Most of the places I checked were selling out quick, but Warehouse (by union square) had the most pappy bottles I think I could ever expect to see, just in plain view.

As well, for those interested, Warehouse also had the Vintage 21 rye :grin:

politely
05-13-2011, 16:22
Most of the places I checked were selling out quick, but Warehouse (by union square) had the most pappy bottles I think I could ever expect to see, just in plain view.

FWIW, I stopped by there yesterday and they had sold out, as had Astor.