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Robmo
02-27-2011, 11:08
What's your favorite mid-shelf vodka?

I know next to nothing about Vodka--Grey Goose and Belvedere are recommended by friends but I was wondering what good stuff can be gotten for a little less dough.

Absolut? Skyy? Finlandia?

Please recommend something that doesn't taste like nail-polish remover.:grin:

squire
02-27-2011, 11:32
Wouldn't know what nail polish tastes like but I get the point. Actually, I find little difference between the cheapest vodka (Burnett) and the stuff that costs four times as much. One of the guys in my tasting group asked what I thought about a brand that presents in a tall, attractive container. I replied it was an $8.00 vodka in a $25.00 bottle.

callmeox
02-27-2011, 11:36
Try Rain vodka.

It's the hands down favorite of OscarV.

texascarl
02-27-2011, 11:38
Sobieski. But don't tell anyone or they'll raise the price.

Parkersback
02-27-2011, 11:46
Tito's is cheap and good.

Robmo
02-27-2011, 11:50
Thanks for your suggestions!

The Sobielski looks really good. http://younxt.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/joanna-krupa-for-sobieski-vodka-2.jpg

Do you have any opinions about whether vodka should be made from potatoes or not? My preconceived notion of vodka is that it should be made from potatoes.

callmeox
02-27-2011, 11:53
Thanks for your suggestions!

The Sobielski looks really good. http://younxt.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/joanna-krupa-for-sobieski-vodka-2.jpg

Do you have any opinions about whether vodka should be made from potatoes or not? My preconceived notion of vodka is that it should be made from potatoes.


It is distilled at such a high proof that I doubt you or anyone else could tell the base starch source.

I want to start a company to make vodka from grass clippings.

squire
02-27-2011, 11:56
Rain, that's the name I was trying to recall. A friend gave me a bottle of this once and it had a genuine flavor. Not much, but definitely something other than the watery alcohol taste I have found in vodka.

Robmo
02-27-2011, 11:56
Tito's is cheap and good.

Tito's looks really interesting...unfortunately I haven't seen it in Tokyo yet (which is where I'm based at the moment)

Robmo
02-27-2011, 12:00
I want to start a company to make vodka from grass clippings.

This isn't exactly the same thing but there is diamond-filtered vodka. http://www.strangenewproducts.com/2006/02/diamond-filtered-vodka.html

Parkersback
02-27-2011, 12:17
It is distilled at such a high proof that I doubt you or anyone else could tell the base starch source.

I want to start a company to make vodka from grass clippings.

Ox, you've been beaten to the punch:

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1009625

callmeox
02-27-2011, 12:25
Ox, you've been beaten to the punch:

http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1009625

Lucky for me, that's just a grain vodka with a blade of grass in it.

My vodka will be a made with a freshly mown mash of Kentucky blue and California sensimilla.

wadewood
02-27-2011, 12:30
Tito's is cheap and good.

Tito's - all marketing fluff - they buy bulk GNS and it then goes through additional distilling.

smokinjoe
02-27-2011, 12:49
Lucky for me, that's just a grain vodka with a blade of grass in it.

My vodka will be a made with a freshly mown mash of Kentucky blue and California sensimilla.

The amazing stuff about that is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bezeezus-belt that night on it. :D

There. You happy, now? ;)

callmeox
02-27-2011, 12:57
The amazing stuff about that is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bezeezus-belt that night on it. :D

There. You happy, now? ;)

Yes.

As you know, I hate to waste good movie references.

http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/About_Us/Bios/Carl_Spackler/caddy01.jpg

smokinjoe
02-27-2011, 13:09
Yes.

As you know, I hate to waste good movie references.

http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/About_Us/Bios/Carl_Spackler/caddy01.jpg

:D Ya know, you could bring Officer Bimbeau from HK's back in, here: Your ass is grass, and I'm the lawnmower!

Svedka.

Special Reserve
02-27-2011, 14:12
Try Rain vodka.

It's the hands down favorite of OscarV.

Scott,

Good point! I hear Oscar has a bunker full.

Will

TNbourbon
02-27-2011, 14:35
Does anyone else find it amusing that we try to segregate something which, by law, MUST have NO DISTINCTIVE flavor, color, or aroma into 'bottom-shelf', 'mid-shelf', and 'top-shelf'?
The late Sidney Frank had a bottle design, a label, AND an upscale marketing plan BEFORE he contracted with then-idle Cognac vintners to distill Grey Goose vodka for him. They were available, though most of them had never made vodka before. Understandable, then, that they made the best damned vodka ever know to man, huh?!
Or, go to the scores of blind tasting results from which such things as Polar Ice and Smirnoff ('bottom' and 'middle', as it were) actually won over such as Grey Goose, Ketel One, et al.
Vodka's vodka (yeah, I'm not above pot-stirring:p). If it don't give ya no headache, it's the good stuff!

callmeox
02-27-2011, 14:53
Tim,

For once we were being nice.

xoxo

Ox

Jono
02-28-2011, 13:32
Rain, that's the name I was trying to recall. A friend gave me a bottle of this once and it had a genuine flavor. Not much, but definitely something other than the watery alcohol taste I have found in vodka.

The only explanation that I know of is the one noted in the other thread and here:

http://www.examiner.com/drinks-in-national/why-tasteless-vodkas-actually-do-taste-different

Why tasteless vodkas actually do taste different
June 10th, 2010 3:44 pm ET

"Beverages with low structurability are likely to be perceived as watery, because the fraction of water clusters is higher than in brands with high structurability. Beverages with high structurability, on the other hand, harbor transient cage-like entities where the ethanol molecule is sequestered by surrounding water molecules. At high alcohol content, clusters of alcohol molecules appear. "

"These ethanol clusters undoubtedly stimulate the palate differently from either water or the E•5.3H2O cage structure. Even in the absence of 'taste' in the traditional sense, vodka drinkers could express preference for a particular structure."

Whether the "hydrate" structures hold up as the key in not yet the consensus so the results may not be robust, but they may end up explaining the different between watery and less watery mouth feel (not so much taste). I only use vodka in a mixed drink but I will say that the Rain did "seem" to have a different flavor profile, but then again it could have been all of that bourbon in the air at BT.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Consumer/story?id=3201973&page=1

Does Premium Vodka's Taste Live Up to Its Price Tag?
20/20's Cocktail Taste Test Leads to Some Surprising Results

53 comments
By ANN VARNEY and BILL RITTER
May 24, 2007

Basically, buy the cheapest and work your way up if you don't like it.
Grey Goose was the least favored while Hangar One and Belvedere were favored.
In mixed drinks, most could not tell the difference.
Cheap may mean hangover though.....

OscarV
02-28-2011, 13:37
Try Rain vodka.

It's the hands down favorite of OscarV.

No vodka for me contrary to the above.
But I'll try some if you are suppling the below.




and California sensimilla.

squire
02-28-2011, 13:50
Yeah, what Jono said, I think.

whskylvr
03-01-2011, 19:37
I am not a vodka drinker at all. But I can say that for me when tasting a vodka there is a notiable difference in viscosity and heat (burn) of different vodkas.

My initial tasting responses:

Sobieski - Hot, nasty big time burn!

Belvedere - Not bad better in mixed in a drink.

Grey Goose - Best straight chilled.

Pinnacle - cheap, smooth could actually drink it straight no burn what so ever.


Some vodka tasted side by side you can taste a difference in what was used to make it - Grain, Potato, Wheat, Rye or Wine Grapes (gives a little citrus base).

Just my .02
Smirnoff - nice, easy to drink. --- put in Grey Goose bottle and sell for $240.00 to VIP bottle service customers (actually no a bar that does this) haven't got caught yet but I am sure they will.

Robmo
03-01-2011, 21:18
Just my .02
Smirnoff - nice, easy to drink. --- put in Grey Goose bottle and sell for $240.00 to VIP bottle service customers (actually no a bar that does this) haven't got caught yet but I am sure they will.

Thanks for the .02 about Smirnoff. I was wondering if someone was going to chime in about that. It's easily obtainable over here.

squire
03-02-2011, 08:45
David what about additives? I don't mean flavorings like pepper or buffalo grass, rather sugar or corn syrup.

dean_martin
03-02-2011, 10:01
Pinnacle - cheap, smooth could actually drink it straight no burn what so ever.




Yep, this is our regular vodka for screwdrivers, vodka sunrises and my wife's vodka and cranberry.

squire
03-02-2011, 10:24
Is Smirnoff still the No.1 selling distilled brand Worldwide?

Brisko
03-02-2011, 10:56
I usually keep a bottle of Skyy on hand because it's very clean finishing and I can get a handle for about $20 at Costco. I believe they source industrial ethanol and add springwater to it to get the "flavor" profile they want.

I also don't mind Stoli but it has a slightly bigger mouthfeel and a bit of an aftertaste, I guess.

kickert
03-02-2011, 12:27
The only vodka I buy is Svedka.

Parkersback
03-03-2011, 11:50
I hate to keep linking to articles that you can only partially read (unless you have the New Yorker digital subscription), but this is a great article on the effect of vodka on Russia.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2002/12/16/021216fa_fact_erofeyev

So but I'll also link this, which is a short article about the same thing, and a video that shows the inadvertent destruction of thousands of bottles of vodka in Russia.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/tackling-the-russian-god/

jcg9779
03-05-2011, 17:32
I'm with you, Brisko. I keep Skyy on hand for mixing, and I do like Belvedere and Chopin (not at all a fan of Grey Goose - it tastes dirty to me).