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LikeItWasSodaPop
04-04-2011, 11:44
Howdy all,

I've been lurking for about two months now. Found this forum after deciding to get serious(er) about bourbon, and I have to say, it has been a remarkable resource so far.

Just two months in to my bourbon obsession, I've already been down to Kentucky for distillery and warehouse tours (thanks to this forum, I learned about the amazing Four Roses warehouse tour, about which I will eventually post), hosted an epic tasting w/ friends (yeah, 9 was too much, but everyone chipped in to foot the bill and I got the leftovers!), and have tentatively started dusty hunting. Just this week I found some OC12 from 95 and some old label OWA 107 and Special Reserve from about the same era (I think). Not super-rare finds but nevertheless gave me a taste of how fun the hunt can be. My fiancee has so far begrudgingly tolerated my newfound desire to stop at sketchy liquor stores on the south and west sides ...

The best thing I've picked up has been an appreciation for a wider spectrum of bourbons, both in terms of price point and flavor profile. I love me some VOB BIB but am also starting to understand what's great about the various BTAC bottlings and the various Pappys.

The second best thing has been a validation of my anti-Beam leanings. It's great to know the range of opinions on particular products and get a sense of how individual members' palates align with mine.

The third best thing is the free pours I now get from bartenders after demonstrating I (kinda) know WTF I'm talking about. Even in Chicago, where I assume we have a more knowledgable bourbon drinking community than most, a slightly better than neophyte level of knowledge really blows bartenders minds. Yes, I will take that free pour of Pappy 15 and the Family Reserve Rye. And I owe it all to you guys.

It's also fun to remember that I met a certain prominent member of this board back in the early 2000s at a pig roast in southern Wisconsin. I had to pry him away from my girlfriend at the time :hot: (she's was a "dancer" so I can't really blame him!). He had just finished a book on bourbon, which is why I remember ...

These days I'm enjoying a couple bottles of Binny's Four Roses Single Barrel (OBSK and OBSF), the OC12, pretty much any/all the Weller Products, EWSB 2000, VOB BIB, and have gone to Rittenhouse 100 exclusively for mixing. Becoming more aware of bourbon's intricacies has made me more doctrinaire about rye as the go-to for old-school cocktails.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to learning even more from y'all. Hoping to meet some Chicago area folk who share the obsession. It seems that with all obsessions, when you cross a certain threshold level of knowledge, you can really only converse with people who are above that threshold. To anyone else you're a freak or a crank or a nerd ... there's just no point in having a discussion with people who drink "X and only X" (i.e. MM). I'm a bit intimidated to start posting, but I'm glad to have the opportunity to participate in a discussion with such smart, kind and knowledgable people.

Oh, and since I've listed the benefits of the forum to me so far, I might as well note the downside. Those freaking acronyms drive other people crazy. It's so hard for me -- even now just as a 2 month lurker -- to refer to bourbons without using the shorthand. I've gotten 3 emails in just the last couple of days asking me WTF I'm talking about. There's something about that sort of language that, once imprinted upon the brain, will not go away.

Best,

J

hectic1
04-04-2011, 14:06
Welcome to the forum...it is a great resource for bourbon lovers to learn and share their knowledge!

squire
04-04-2011, 15:39
Hey J, welcome aboard. Your first post is thoughtful and informative, please favor us with more.

One rule I have for dusty hunting is don't take the girl along. If she goes in with you there are two backs to watch and leaving her in the vehicle, well, you don't want to walk out to see a crowd gathering around it.

tommyboy38
04-04-2011, 16:55
Welcome aboard!

I wish I went out more often so I could get some free whiskey.

White Dog
04-05-2011, 08:31
Welcome aboard!

So Chuck likes "dancers?" :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: :slappin:

LikeItWasSodaPop
04-05-2011, 09:26
Well, White Dog, I don't think she was wearing her government-issued stripper nametag at the time ... so it's totally possible that he was interested in her for her (considerable) intelligence.

I didn't say WHO was the person kindly and non-crotchety-ly hitting on her was ... who is this "Chuck" fella? I plead the 5th.

What's weird is that I remember running over to save her from some dude hitting on her (that happens a lot) so, I butt in, and 10 seconds later we are talking about bourbon and having this great conversation.

It means something to me that this conversation was probably 7 years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday because people who are respectful, engaged, and smart just don't come along every day.

Those who like skinny platinum blonde 19 year-old strippers are a little easier to find.

J

stevegoz
04-09-2011, 11:47
Any Chicago folk attending the World of Whiskies event at Binny's in Lincoln Park this Thursday night? WhiskeyFest sold out before I could even decide whether to go, but this seems like an okay compromise.

T Comp
04-09-2011, 13:03
Any Chicago folk attending the World of Whiskies event at Binny's in Lincoln Park this Thursday night? WhiskeyFest sold out before I could even decide whether to go, but this seems like an okay compromise.

Welcome aboard. Lost Pollito will be helping run/pouring at the event. Ask for Joe, he might be busy but introduce yourself and meet one of the greats in the liquor store business and SB members. TomH (not to be confused with ThomasH) is Chicago folk by way of Indianapolis and told me he was planning to attend. Look for the guy who some say looks like either Jesus, Kenny Rogers, Jerry Garcia or Cpt. Lou Albano. He looks like TomH, with one hell of a bunker, too me :slappin: . I will probably not be there or at WhiskeyFest due to a long scheduled work activity that interferes but am planning for some major fun in Bardstown two weeks later.

Lost Pollito
04-09-2011, 14:06
Any Chicago folk attending the World of Whiskies event at Binny's in Lincoln Park this Thursday night? WhiskeyFest sold out before I could even decide whether to go, but this seems like an okay compromise.
Hi Steve,
Welcome aboard. I'll be running around at the event. Look forward to meeting you. :grin:

TomH
04-09-2011, 14:52
Hi Steve,

I'll be at Binny's on Thurday along with some other Indy folks. Beside the description above, I'm also pretty easy to identify if I'm wearing a jacket. I don't see to many blue and white Colts jackets when I come visiting to Chicago (actually I'll probably wear a Pacer's jacket since they'll be playing the Bulls in the NBA playoffs at the time - I'm really not shy about my sports wear - I wore a SuperBowl Champion shirt and hat to a party in Chicago the weekend after they beat Chicago in the SB a few years ago).

Tom

stevegoz
04-09-2011, 15:04
lol -- I'll be the one consulting my notes to figure out who is who! :lol:

Tennessee Dave
04-09-2011, 15:09
Welcome to SB! Enjoy yourself here.

LikeItWasSodaPop
04-13-2011, 09:38
Mark Twain's quip about the dubiousness of any club that would have me as a member aside, I am glad to be able to interact with such smart bourbon drinkers.

Was just at Binny's yesterday and talking shop with a very smart gentleman in the bourbon aisle. He mentions the forum in a very subtle way ... almost mumbling when he says it ... sort of like a secret handshake.

Needless to say I left with a nice bottle that wasn't on the shelves.

Anyway, I'm really happy with how friendly people have been so far. And looking forward to meeting more of y'all.

J

CorvallisCracker
04-13-2011, 10:21
It's also fun to remember that I met a certain prominent member of this board back in the early 2000s at a pig roast in southern Wisconsin. I had to pry him away from my girlfriend at the time :hot: (she's was a "dancer" so I can't really blame him!). He had just finished a book on bourbon, which is why I remember ...


You just made my day! :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: :slappin: Thanks!

fishnbowljoe
04-18-2011, 16:36
Mark Twain's quip about the dubiousness of any club that would have me as a member aside, I am glad to be able to interact with such smart bourbon drinkers.

Was just at Binny's yesterday and talking shop with a very smart gentleman in the bourbon aisle. He mentions the forum in a very subtle way ... almost mumbling when he says it ... sort of like a secret handshake.

Needless to say I left with a nice bottle that wasn't on the shelves.

Anyway, I'm really happy with how friendly people have been so far. And looking forward to meeting more of y'all.

J

Wasn't Joe was it? :grin: Great folks at Binny's. Keep your eyes on the Bourbon Social thread for any announcements of an SB get together at the South Loop store. It's always a good time there. Welcome aboard J. Cheers! Joe (the other one)

LikeItWasSodaPop
05-03-2011, 15:24
Thanks, Joe, it was indeed the other Joe.

I've been incredibly lucky since I've joined the forum. Discovered Four Roses Mariage, fell in love with it about halfway though the bottle. Tried to get more, but couldn't find it for weeks, then stumbled upon a nice stash of both the 08 and 09 editions. Scooped 'em up. Today I find PVW 15 on a total lark while visiting my parents' in the suburbs. A nice little "who's on first routine" ensued when I asked if they had any in the back. There was a shelf tag for it (in a glass case) but no bottle, which seemed odd and a bit masochistic -- don't torture me by letting me know I just missed out! They have a bottle ... no, they "had" a bottle. No, they have two bottles. No, they HAD two bottles, total, now they have none. Turns out they did HAVE two bottles, but now they don't!

LikeItWasSodaPop
05-10-2011, 23:17
Might anyone suggest where to post about bourbon bars? General bourbon discussion?

We did a Louisville/Lexington trip last month and I have a few I want to post about, but the one that has really got my goat is here in Chicago. I just want to make sure my IRE and HATRED are felt far and wide. And see what other people think.

Bars seem to be neglected on this site. I get why -- most of y'all have bunkers that put even the best bourbon-philic bars to shame. I mean, shit, I just went into the Whistler here in Chicago, a bourbon lover's paradise if I ever saw one, and I scanned the shelves -- impressed as hell! -- but still concluding that, besides the Ritt 21 (or something similar) and some Parker's Heritage, I basically had everything they do at home (it's y'all's fault!).

But I do think bars, especially those that allow tasting-sized pours and flights can serve a really valuable purpose: allowing one to taste something new without bottle-price commitment. If one looks at it as a way to protect oneself from unnecessary purchases, the steep prices bars charge for bourbon might even be justified by cost-benefit analysis.

Here in Chicago, I really love Maria's Community Liquors, a bar in Bridgeport. They have a few set tastings, but basically, they'll let you pick any three whiskeys. They then give ya 1/2 oz pours of each and charge you the average of what the 3 whiskeys you chose cost (it's so logical, I'm surprised other bars don't do it, but I've asked at other places and some bartenders have been game). And they've got a great selection. So I've gone with friends, shared a few tastings, and walked out having tried 10+ bourbons still able to stand. I credit Maria's, along with this forum, with helping my palate evolve.

So what say ye -- where does discussions of bars belong? Because I want to tell y'all how much I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate Delilah's. And of course, I am curious to know what other Chicago bourbonphiles think of the place. Because I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate it. I'll save the WHY for the appropriate section of the forum.

T Comp
05-11-2011, 05:17
I'd suggest you add your thoughts on Delilah's to this thread started hear on 5/5/11 by mrviognier http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15852

Most threads on bars are started in the general bourbon discussion section but there was a a now closed one on Delilah's posted back on 3/08/09 in this section. There has also been numerous references to Delilah's in other non dedicated posts that can be found through the search function. Another way to search is to fake attempt a new thread where after you put your title in and then click on the dialogue box, it will bring up prior threads, many of which will probably be closed.

LikeItWasSodaPop
05-22-2011, 17:09
One's mind doesn't get blown all that often, but, damn, I had the pleasure of a tasting Friday night with some absurdly generous SB members and it played out like something out of a dream.

Tasted Old Fitz BIB DSP 16 for the first time, and, goddamn it, I will find me some, come hell or high water.

Also got to try Very Special Old Fitz 12 Year ... which is some Holy Grail shit if I ever tasted it.

The best part is that I went home with a 2 oz sample of the VSOF 12 for my amazing fiance who was unable to attend the tasting b/c she wasn't feeling well. Talk about generosity!

The old shit really does taste different -- it has a viscosity / oiliness / mouthfeel that is entirely different than today's bourbon. I still love a lot of today's stuff, but I now totally understand the obsession with dusties. I had found a few myself (in particular the WT 8 year) and these all time greats fit within the profile (though the SWs were degrees of magnitude better than the WT, and that's saying something!).

Damn, I'm glad I found this forum!

Josh
05-23-2011, 04:07
That Chicago gathering sounds like it was a great time. I wish I could have been there.

And belated greetings to the forum! My new post function doesn't always work so I'm a little slow on the uptake these days. I've really enjoyed all your posts and I look forward to reading more in the future. I also look forward to sharing a drink sometime. Welcome!