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ViperGlock
04-24-2011, 20:54
So...in less than one hour I've drank 1/4 bottle. I can't believe this stuff is 120 proof. It's easy to drink neat. Is that a "hallmark" of good bourbon that even higher proof is "smooth"?

barturtle
04-24-2011, 21:07
So...in less than one hour I've drank 1/4 bottle.

You are officially un-invited to ever come drink from my stash.

ViperGlock
04-24-2011, 21:14
You are officially un-invited to ever come drink from my stash.


I got lots a Pappy 23, 20, 15, 12, Rye 13... I got this week. I'll show pictures in a few weeks. YOUR LOSS MAN!!!! :slappin: :lol:

ViperGlock
04-24-2011, 21:21
You are officially un-invited to ever come drink from my stash.


Anyway, I would never "overindulge" from someone else's stash.

CaptainQ
04-24-2011, 21:24
Anyway, I would never "overindulge" from someone else's stash.

Good policy if you wanted to be invited over again.:cool:

callmeox
04-25-2011, 06:40
I got lots a Pappy 23, 20, 15, 12, Rye 13... I got this week. I'll show pictures in a few weeks. YOUR LOSS MAN!!!! :slappin: :lol:

The lure of the Van Winkle line is only strong in some circles. There are many other great fish in the sea of bourbon.

I will be happy once PappyMania dies down around here. It has gotten quite silly, IMO.

Virus_Of_Life
04-25-2011, 06:52
I will be happy once PappyMania dies down around here. It has gotten quite silly, IMO.
How dare you say silly?! I'm driving 100 miles to pick up a case of the 15 year Pappy!

....

Sounds like I might need to try this new Knob Creek eventually.

Brisko
04-25-2011, 07:05
How dare you say silly?! I'm driving 100 miles to pick up a case of the 15 year Pappy!


Round trip or one-way?

bgageus
04-25-2011, 08:27
I agree with you about how smooth it is. I am usually a Bookers drinker, to which I usually add water or some ice to knock the heat off. But I found the Knob to have have less heat and more flavor at the higher proof.

I have gone through a 1/4 bottle in about 4 weeks, but my practice is that the last 1/4 bottle goes alot quicker than the first 1/4.

cowdery
04-25-2011, 10:03
For the record, I always cringe when someone describes a whiskey as "smooth." It's a very vague term that usually connotes a whiskey that is mild, even bland, i.e., not very flavorful, which is not a good thing. It's also a catch-all that people use when they can't think of any other descriptor.

But the Beam profile, of which Knob is part, does tend to be easy-drinking and that's why many people find it bland.

Perhaps to exaggerate the point, being easy to drink so you can drink a lot of it in a short time is more a hallmark of vodka or, for that matter, Four Loko, than it is of fine bourbon.

callmeox
04-25-2011, 10:12
Re: smooth

I sense a blog entry in the near future

Brisko
04-25-2011, 10:15
I find that there are two meanings for "smooth"-- some people use it to mean "easily drinkable" while others use it to describe the mouthfeel ("slippery" is also useful in that context). There isn't necessarily a lot of overlap between the two usages and it can make for confusing tasting notes.

Josh
04-25-2011, 14:52
For the record, Michael Jackson used the term "smooth" for both American and Scotch whiskys frequently. From the context, tho, he almost seems to use it as a back-handed compliment.

Back on topic, KCSB is easy-drinking, but I still can't drink it w/o water. But I would not hesitate to drink as much of Timothy's stash as I could in one sitting.

Parkersback
04-25-2011, 14:57
For the record, Michael Jackson used the term "smooth" for both American and Scotch whiskys frequently. From the context, tho, he almost seems to use it as a back-handed compliment.

Back on topic, KCSB is easy-drinking, but I still can't drink it w/o water. But I would not hesitate to drink as much of Timothy's stash as I could in one sitting.

And I would not hesitate to drink the parts of Timothy's stash Josh left behind.

A question: it seems that the consensus on KCSB is that they are really choosing honey barrels for it, thus the difference is more than proof? Ja?

SMOWK
04-25-2011, 16:15
And I would not hesitate to drink the parts of Timothy's stash Josh left behind.

A question: it seems that the consensus on KCSB is that they are really choosing honey barrels for it, thus the difference is more than proof? Ja?

I think it's a lot better than KC. I rarely if ever by KC, but I've been through 3 or 4 bottles of the KCSB since release. I like the barrel proofers neat, so this one is another round in the revolver.

nivto
04-25-2011, 16:20
I'm not a huge fan of the offering, but what i like most about it is the mouthfeel... I find it to be thick and viscous and really pleasing to sip in that respect.

2highcal
04-25-2011, 16:35
In a few weeks I will have to do a side by side of Bookers and the KCSB I just opened, first impression was it is actually a bit hot and not so flavorful as Bookers which I drink neat

B.B. Babington
04-25-2011, 16:36
different people certainly have different ideas about "smooth" depending on taste and history.

some people talk about smooth in terms of congeners, good or bad. Bottom shelf often isn't smooth, whereas mid-shelf fare can be very flavorful without any bite or harshness.

trumpstylz
04-25-2011, 16:40
different people certainly have different ideas about "smooth" depending on taste and history.

some people talk about smooth in terms of congeners, good or bad. Bottom shelf often isn't smooth, whereas mid-shelf fare can be very flavorful without any bite or harshness.

Yeah, I always thought "smooth" was the opposite of hot. i.e. you do not notice the alcohol as much (considering the proof)

cigarnv
04-25-2011, 17:30
I find the KC Reserve is great for a single pour but not something I would want to drink all night. I still find the Bookers more to my liking.....

ViperGlock
04-25-2011, 18:36
Yeah, I always thought "smooth" was the opposite of hot. i.e. you do not notice the alcohol as much (considering the proof)

That's what I meant by "smooth". I thought it was easy to drink for being 120 proof.

wine65
04-25-2011, 19:03
I keep getting a taste of peanut butter in the finish, anyone else getting this? I'm really enjoying this bottle.

T Comp
04-25-2011, 19:15
I don't care for smooth jazz. I run from smooth talking salesmen. I'll leave smooth to my shave but not for my whiskey.

I never thought of Knob Creek, regular or SB, as being particularly smooth (versus Beam Black) and give credit to Beam marketing for it selling as well as it does to the general public, considering its more difficult approachability.

And with apologies to MacinJosh, here I am adding to what is now the fifth thread on KCSB after I previously jumped on you for starting the fourth... and you had a legitimate reason to do so.:rolleyes: I guess I'm just glad we're not talking about Pappy sightings here.

cowdery
04-27-2011, 10:24
About 25 years ago, a major American whiskey brand that will remain nameless was in the process of repositioning itself and hired a new advertising agency. The agency conducted market research among prospective customers, asking them what attributes they look for in a whiskey. The winning answer was "smoothness." So the agency created a new advertising campaign for said whiskey. It consisted of one word: "Smooth."

Brisko
04-27-2011, 10:34
About 25 years ago, a major American whiskey brand that will remain nameless was in the process of repositioning itself and hired a new advertising agency. The agency conducted market research among prospective customers, asking them what attributes they look for in a whiskey. The winning answer was "smoothness." So the agency created a new advertising campaign for said whiskey. It consisted of one word: "Smooth."

I thought that was Guzzler's Gin (http://youtu.be/orYhEEWWyX8).

ViperGlock
04-28-2011, 04:32
I'm going to get more of Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve...I really like it!!