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Pirate762
05-23-2011, 13:56
What is the difference between the Hirsch Gold Foil and the Hirsch Gold Wax bourbon? Other than the nammer of sealing them of course.

OscarV
05-23-2011, 14:14
Release dates.
They held some back and let it trickle out.
It was held in stainless, so the wax is earlier and the foil was sitting around breathing.

B1bomber
05-23-2011, 14:17
I'm sure others here can give you more specifics, but basically, the gold foil was the last, most recent bottling (not counting the boxed humidor set). The gold wax version preceded the gold foil and seems to be more difficult to find, although not as difficult as the blue wax version with the scripted label, which preceded both the gold wax and gold foil. Confused yet?

Also, some people say they all have different taste profiles as well but they are supposed to contain the same juice.

Pirate762
05-23-2011, 14:19
Thanks. So what does sitting in a tank do for, or to, the bourbon. I seem to remember a discussion about this concerning Sazerac. It sounded like it was mixed as to the effects. I am asking because I know where a gold wax bottle is and am considering purchasing it.

CorvallisCracker
05-23-2011, 15:18
If there's a lot of air at the top of the tank, and it's in there too long (apparently 5+ years for the gold foil Hirsch) it becomes oxidized.

cowdery
05-23-2011, 15:31
Whether or not being tanked degrades the bourbon is a matter of opinion, based in some cases on logic and conjecture, and in other cases on actual comparison sampling.

A diligent search will reveal a lot of the background on this subject. Releases of this same batch of whiskey at different ages and proofs, and in different packages, occurred over several years.

Every bottling was small but some were smaller than others, with the last one (16 yr., gold foil) being far and away the largest. The earlier bottlings, including gold wax, were measured in hundreds of cases. The gold foil was measured in thousands of cases.

The gold foil is still 'out there' as in a few stores still have it. The only gold wax is in private collections.

White Dog
05-24-2011, 12:34
Preiss still has humidor bottles(gold foil) to sell to the market, but at $1200 retail per bottle, who the hell's buying?

Pirate762
05-24-2011, 13:00
What is a humidor bottle? Must be special for that price. I, like many probably, have never heard of such.

RyanL
05-24-2011, 13:22
AFAIK, it's just a way they packaged the last of their gold foil bottles so they could sell them at a insanely ridiculous price.

cowdery
05-24-2011, 18:58
It says, "You're never going to drink it at that price so here's a nice box to keep it in, so it will look nice when you show it to people, you idiot."

nblair
05-25-2011, 10:54
It says, "You're never going to drink it at that price so here's a nice box to keep it in, so it will look nice when you show it to people, you idiot."

Classic! That just made my day. :lol:

silverfish
05-25-2011, 19:39
What is a humidor bottle? Must be special for that price. I, like many probably, have never heard of such.

Info here (http://preissimports.com/productsdetail.aspx?A.H.%20HIRSCH%20RESERVE%20POT-STILLED%20SOUR%20MASH%20BOURBON%2016%20YEAR%20OLD) . They used to have a nice image along
with the description but it looks like that's gone.

John Hansall blog post (http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2008/06/05/hirsch-16-yr-old-bourbon-gets-a-formal-farewell/) and an image here (http://www.luxist.com/tag/A.H.+Hirsch+Reserve/).

Pirate762
05-26-2011, 15:28
WOW! That is some bottle and humidor combo back for sure.

CaptainQ
05-26-2011, 17:14
AFAIK, it's just a way they packaged the last of their gold foil bottles so they could sell them at a insanely ridiculous price.

The Hirsch box makes the ORVW 23/114 set look like a bargain.:bigeyes:

sku
05-26-2011, 17:21
The Hirsch box makes the ORVW 23/114 set look like a bargain.:bigeyes:

Yeah, they should get some type of chutzpah award for that. It's the same damn 16 yo bourbon in an only slightly different bottle (not even some fancy crystal job) in a wooden box with a couple of glasses. I mean, come on. Who is buying that?