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emr454
06-13-2011, 19:57
I'm going to be traveling to Georgia late July, as noted in a recent thread of mine. I'll be visiting family in Macon, but it appears there isn't much love for Macon (I don't blame anyone, it's quite a shady looking place :skep:). Here is more detail:

I'll be flying into Atlanta, then driving into Gray, just outside Macon. I'd like to know if anyone has any suggestions for liquor stores or bottle shops in the area to visit. I'd say anything within an hour of Atlanta would be an easy trip. I'll only be there for 4 or 5 days, so I can't visit many places (I do have to visit my family while I'm there :cool:)

Any suggestions? I'd love to find something like Old Heaven Hill, Old Fitz, any dusties, etc that I can't find here in NY. Thanks in advance!

Eric

BigRich
06-14-2011, 07:23
I don't know. Between Jack, Joe, and Jimmy I'm not sure there's much bourbon left in Atlanta. At least that's the impression I got after our Georgia Bourbon Society Meeting last Friday.:grin:

emr454
06-14-2011, 07:34
I don't know. Between Jack, Joe, and Jimmy I'm not sure there's much bourbon left in Atlanta. At least that's the impression I got after our Georgia Bourbon Society Meeting last Friday.:grin:

Well, I don't expect anyone to give up their favorite dusty goldmines:cool:

Are there any stores that have a wide selection of current offerings? I'll just be happy if I can get my favorite bourbons at a lower price than in NY. I'm assuming (possibly incorrectly), that whiskey will be less expensive in the south than it is in the north?

Eric

tsangster
06-14-2011, 09:07
I was stationed in Warner Robins (about 15 miles south of Macon) from 1982-1990. I haven't been back since I left so I can't be of help with liquor store locations or selections. If you have family members with military connections you could try the Class VI on RAFB.

If I recall correctly the area of Macon near / around Riverside Drive was not quite as shady as other areas.

jcg9779
06-14-2011, 10:48
I don't know. Between Jack, Joe, and Jimmy I'm not sure there's much bourbon left in Atlanta. At least that's the impression I got after our Georgia Bourbon Society Meeting last Friday.:grin:

Don't lump me in with Joe and Jimmy...I'm still just getting into bourbon! :lol: They've been doing this stuff for years now!


Well, I don't expect anyone to give up their favorite dusty goldmines:cool:

Are there any stores that have a wide selection of current offerings? I'll just be happy if I can get my favorite bourbons at a lower price than in NY. I'm assuming (possibly incorrectly), that whiskey will be less expensive in the south than it is in the north?

Eric

Eric,

I do think the prices are better down here, but not as much as you'd think. I think that Atlanta is pretty much on par with the rest of the country, with the exception of some items (some are more expensive, some are less). A couple of places around downtown Atlanta that have a pretty good selection are Tower Liquor (on Piedmont Rd. - www.towerwinespirits.com) and Green's Beverage Store (on Ponce de Leon - www.greensbeverages.com). I know that Tower has some PHC 2010 on the shelf at $80...this seems to be the going price, not sure what they are in NY. As I mentioned, these are around downtown and therefore north of the airport - Tower is just north of downtown and Green's is east of downtown. I'm not sure what you'll find going south. I hope this helps some....sorry I can't give more info.

mrviognier
06-14-2011, 11:51
I'm assuming (possibly incorrectly), that whiskey will be less expensive in the south than it is in the north?

I'm afraid that would be an incorrect assumption. Most (if not all) suppliers have national pricing. There are occasionally deals offered to the distributor and/or the retailer, or retailers who work on lower margins than their competitors. But, for the most part there are no regional advantages to pricing.

BigRich
06-14-2011, 14:24
I'm afraid that would be an incorrect assumption. Most (if not all) suppliers have national pricing. There are occasionally deals offered to the distributor and/or the retailer, or retailers who work on lower margins than their competitors. But, for the most part there are no regional advantages to pricing.

Sort of true but in certain areas (NYC comes to mind) there is a good bit of up pricing from retailers as well as higher taxes. We tend to have relatively low taxes for a "major" city down here. An example would be Redbreast 12. Typically around $55 to $60 a bottle in New York but around $48 down here.

mrviognier
06-14-2011, 16:00
Typically the suppliers will adjust their pricing to the wholesaler if the state in question has an hefty tax rate. Alternatively, here in MN where every wholesaler has the ability to sell every distillate (resulting in some of the lowest profit margins on spirits in the U.S.), the supplier will typically raise the FOB (case price) charged to wholesalers. The whole issue is to ensure parity across the country.

By far the biggest contributor to price differences between states is what the retailers charge. While most work on a 25%-30% mark-up on spirits, some work on less, some on more. Having owned stores in Georgia and worked with stores in NYC, I can tell you the difference you're seeing is the margin charged by the retailer.

emr454
06-14-2011, 20:24
One thing I'd really like to find is Mellow Corn BIB. Sounds very interesting! Can this be found anywhere in GA?

Eric

BigRich
06-15-2011, 06:27
Typically the suppliers will adjust their pricing to the wholesaler if the state in question has an hefty tax rate. Alternatively, here in MN where every wholesaler has the ability to sell every distillate (resulting in some of the lowest profit margins on spirits in the U.S.), the supplier will typically raise the FOB (case price) charged to wholesalers. The whole issue is to ensure parity across the country.

By far the biggest contributor to price differences between states is what the retailers charge. While most work on a 25%-30% mark-up on spirits, some work on less, some on more. Having owned stores in Georgia and worked with stores in NYC, I can tell you the difference you're seeing is the margin charged by the retailer.

I wholeheartedly agree that it's the retailers. My point was just that there are price differences to be found.

troyce
06-15-2011, 17:49
Don't waste your time . I know that every bottle of Boubon Supreme has been wiped off the shelves. What else matters?

craigthom
06-15-2011, 17:54
Don't waste your time . I know that every bottle of Boubon Supreme has been wiped off the shelves. What else matters?

Including that nasty store in Columbus?

A fun cheap thing to pick up in Georgia is the EW BIB with the green four-color label. As far as I know it is only sold in Georgia. NAS, so it is probably a four year, and it doesn't taste anything special, but it is pretty and cheap.

smokinjoe
06-15-2011, 18:29
Including that nasty store in Columbus?

A fun cheap thing to pick up in Georgia is the EW BIB with the green four-color label. As far as I know it is only sold in Georgia. NAS, so it is probably a four year, and it doesn't taste anything special, but it is pretty and cheap.

With the little barn/cabin thingee on it? Yeah, it's cool. I think I heard it is Georgia only. Though, I may have heard that from you, Craig. :D Did Bettye Jo confirm that, do you know? I'm wondering if they're still doing it, as I'm having a hard time finding it of late...:(

That nasty store in Columbus has given up a fair amount of dusties...But, after 7 years of us huntin' it, there ain't much left, though...;) Who's gonna buy that old bottle of Teacher's with the egg shells floating in it ?!?! :lol:

craigthom
06-16-2011, 07:03
With the little barn/cabin thingee on it? Yeah, it's cool. I think I heard it is Georgia only. Though, I may have heard that from you, Craig. :D Did Bettye Jo confirm that, do you know? I'm wondering if they're still doing it, as I'm having a hard time finding it of late...:(

That nasty store in Columbus has given up a fair amount of dusties...But, after 7 years of us huntin' it, there ain't much left, though...;) Who's gonna buy that old bottle of Teacher's with the egg shells floating in it ?!?! :lol:

I'm not sure she confirmed it was Georgia only, but I've never seen it anywhere else. I know 750ml bottles were harder to find, but there were handles. I know the Greens on Buford Highway had a bunch (OK, that's been a few years, but still).

I know they've got it at my secret store in La Grange, where, last time I checked, they also had the few bottles of ER101 that I left. $19.99. I only bought six of them.

That Teacher's with the white floaters is what I remember most about that store in Columbus. And the smell. But I found that 200ml of 8yo Fighting Cock there, some ND 8yo OGD 86, and a few other things that looked well-sealed.

I found some ND OGD BIB at another, tiny store in Columbus. They also had some older EWSB. Not cheap, though.

emr454
06-16-2011, 13:07
I must say, the quantity of liquor stores in GA is overwhelming! It's too bad I won't have a lot of time to go hunting.

Eric

tsangster
06-17-2011, 09:05
One thing I'd really like to find is Mellow Corn BIB. Sounds very interesting! Can this be found anywhere in GA?

Eric

Never really noticed before but saw several bottles (1.75 and 750) on the shelf last night. Apparently it is available in GA.

Tucker
06-18-2011, 10:36
Never really noticed before but saw several bottles (1.75 and 750) on the shelf last night. Apparently it is available in GA.

My usual stores in Atlanta don't carry Mellow Corn but I saw it stocked in 375 and 750 in a store in Gwinnett County today.