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Photodudems
07-11-2011, 14:26
As I mentioned in my newbie thread (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15899), I'm currently in VA and am in the market for a decent bourbon to drink/mix/cook with. I've gone through a bottle of EW BIB and almost finished a bottle of Ten High (not blended). From that experience, the TH is not going to be bought again for any use other than cooking. Not very good tasting stuff.

As for the EW, I like it rather well. It's smooth. :)

So, I guess what I'm asking is this- does anyone more experienced in the bourbon world than I have some suggestions for good bourbons in the less than $20 range?

All info appreciated. :D

VERITAS
07-11-2011, 14:37
Not sure of prices out there, but in CA some decent bourbons for around $20 are:

Jim Beam Black (8yr)
Bulliet
Maker's Mark
Buffalo Trace


If you go to under $30 the # of great bourbons increases greatly

nor02lei
07-11-2011, 14:38
As I mentioned in my newbie thread (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15899), I'm currently in VA and am in the market for a decent bourbon to drink/mix/cook with. I've gone through a bottle of EW BIB and almost finished a bottle of Ten High (not blended). From that experience, the TH is not going to be bought again for any use other than cooking. Not very good tasting stuff.

As for the EW, I like it rather well. It's smooth. :)

So, I guess what I'm asking is this- does anyone more experienced in the bourbon world than I have some suggestions for good bourbons in the less than $20 range?

All info appreciated. :D

Iím not sure if you can get very old Barton 100 proof at your location, but if you can that is very good bourbon for far under 20 buck.
Leif

ebo
07-11-2011, 15:13
WT 101 is still under $20.00. I think Dickel 12 is at $20.00 or just a bit more.

OscarV
07-11-2011, 15:21
Evan Williams on the rocks does the trick and there will be plenty left over to buy a pack of Camels.
Both a favorite of mine.

hambone
07-11-2011, 15:43
If $20 is a hard limit....Evan Williams Black and Old Grand Dad BIB are two that come to mind. If you can stretch slightly north of $20; Wild Turkey 101, Elijah Craig 12, Dickel 12, Old Grand Dad 114 and Buffalo Trace are available here in VA.

jburlowski
07-11-2011, 15:53
Ancient Ancient Age

sailor22
07-11-2011, 16:00
Iím not sure if you can get very old Barton 100 proof at your location, but if you can that is very good bourbon for far under 20 buck.
Leif

What he said. I picked some up in Kentucky last Spring and it is really a bargain.

OscarV
07-11-2011, 16:44
Ancient Ancient Age

Yep, and I'll be picking up some AAA 10yo on Saturday, ya ready John?

smokinjoe
07-11-2011, 16:49
Pricing is a weird thing. Pricing on particular bottlings can fluctuate greatly between regions, here in Bourbonia. So, I'll just give what I find here in Georgia, and would recommend to you. Prices may be higher, or lower, in your area:

Maker's Mark at $19.
Evan Williams Black ~$15
Ezra Brooks 90 proof $19 for a 1.75
4 Roses Yellow $14
Old Forester Signature $18
Jim Beam Black ~$19
Jim Beam Distillers Series 7yr ~$18

I'd add any EW BIB, but I see you've already found that beauty.

And, I'll agree with Hambone. He is Spot-On with his list of wonderful whiskies, that are just a few dollars more. But, I'll just go one farther with his list... You really, really, REALLY must try the OGD 114. It's a spectacular low-$20 whiskey.

Sometimes, I look at these low-dollar bourbon lists, and wonder why the heck I keep dropping good coin on so many expensive ones. :crazy:

StraightBoston
07-11-2011, 16:59
I was just making a similar list for myself!

Old Granddad BIB
Four Roses Yellow Label
Fighting Cock 6/103
Virginia Gentleman 90 (if you can find any -- still on the ABC price list!)
Dickel No. 12 (just out of reach by your pricing)

Not on the ABC list but worth it:
Old Weller Antique and/or Weller Special Reserve
Rittenhouse Rye BIB

(The Ancient Ancient Age in Virginia is the 6 Star which is not the same as Kentucky's 10yo.)

Bourbon Boiler
07-11-2011, 17:18
Bulleit
Four Roses
Buffalo Trace
Fighting Cock

would be the bargain grand slam in my book.

Parkersback
07-11-2011, 18:00
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13925&highlight=cheap

Parkersback
07-11-2011, 18:38
I just Googled which bourbons are available in Virginia, and it is really appalling how meagre the selection is.

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16214

One whiskey nobody's mentioned yet is Weller Special Reserve. It's $18 here in NYC, but I know it's cheaper elsewhere, and I've seen 1.75's for $32. It's a solid little whiskey.

trumpstylz
07-11-2011, 19:55
I’m not sure if you can get very old Barton 100 proof at your location, but if you can that is very good bourbon for far under 20 buck.
Leif

Not just the 100 proof. The 90 proof very old barton is also good.

I also agree with old forester, old grand dad, dickel, rittenhouse, wild turkey, AAA and buffalo trace.

You could also stick with the evan williams bonded. Its a spectacular deal.

BBQ+Bourbon
07-11-2011, 21:18
If $20 is a hard limit....Evan Williams Black and Old Grand Dad BIB are two that come to mind. If you can stretch slightly north of $20; Wild Turkey 101, Elijah Craig 12, Dickel 12, Old Grand Dad 114 and Buffalo Trace are available here in VA.
Evans Williams BIB is head and shoulders better than black label. I agree on the OGD 114 and also suggest Weller 107 as always. This topic comes up every few months and the same contestants are always mentioned.

moose
07-11-2011, 21:35
Jim Beam Black
Jim Beam White
Evan Williams Black
Ancient Ancient Age
Buffalo Trace
Bulleit
Corner Creek
Ezra Brooks Black
Fighting Cock
Four Roses Yellow
Old Charter (8 year or BiB)
Old Forester
WL Weller Special Reserve

All of those are good, if not great, value bourbons, great entry level, can be consumed many ways (neat, mixed, cooked with) and they all offer a great bang for the buck. Tastes will vary, and you ought to find a favorite out of those. Of the widely available offerings, I suggest you look for the WL Weller Special Reserve, or the Jim Beam Black, both are easy to find, and are pretty good bourbons.

Best of luck

mosugoji64
07-11-2011, 21:46
I highly recommend the HH BIBs. They are a spectacular value. The CVS near me frequently has handles of EW Black on sale for less than $20, so that might be worth your time.

p_elliott
07-12-2011, 08:08
I was trying to think of something not already mentioned it's not bourbon but right on your price line is WT rye. It's very good.

bgageus
07-12-2011, 08:20
If you are willing to drive a little, keep an eye on the monthly and weekly specials here. You wont find many premium or specialty bottles in the stores, but I go about once a month to pick up the basics that they have on sale.
http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/dlctmpl.asp?url=/Content/dlc/liquor/home/index.asp

timd
07-12-2011, 09:02
Here in TX, Weller 12 is just a smidge over $20... and it's a favorite.

The other lists are great - and other than Weller 12, I'm duplicating other folks:

Ryes:
Ritt BIB
WT 101 Rye

Bourbon:
Weller 12
Weller Special Reserve (the 107, if not too expensive, is better)
Elijah Craig 12
Buffalo Trace
Very Old Barton
Dickel
Four Roses
Fighting Cock

jburlowski
07-12-2011, 16:08
Yep, and I'll be picking up some AAA 10yo on Saturday, ya ready John?

Yup... I've told all the neighbors to shield their daughters. :slappin:

Photodudems
07-14-2011, 13:55
Does anyone know what the difference between EW Black/BIB and EW Green? I'm heading to the store to buy a bottle of EW (probably BIB as I know that I like it and I'm having company this weekend). I can't really figure out what the differentiating characteristic is supposed to be. Is it proof?

Bourbon Boiler
07-14-2011, 17:41
Elijah Craig 12 is a good call as well. I missed that one.

mosugoji64
07-14-2011, 22:03
Does anyone know what the difference between EW Black/BIB and EW Green? I'm heading to the store to buy a bottle of EW (probably BIB as I know that I like it and I'm having company this weekend). I can't really figure out what the differentiating characteristic is supposed to be. Is it proof?

I would recommend against picking up EW Green. My experience was not good. Maybe I got a bad bottle (someone else feel free to chime in here) but it was thin and not very flavorful. EW Black is much better and only a couple of dollars more. I haven't tried the BIB, but I assume it's light years better than Green.

Photodudems
07-15-2011, 08:57
I just got back from the store with a fifth of EW BIB. I just wanted out of there fast, as I had just come from the 'devil's stronghold' - Walmart and really wanted to get home.

From doing a little more reading, it looks like the difference in the EW's that I mentioned is proof. The green is 80, black 86(I think- maybe 90) and the BIB is 100. Not sure if the recipe is different.


On another note though, while I was in there, I came across two minis of George Dickel that were on closeout for <$1 ea.

http://www.dickel.com/cacheable/images/products/whisky/product-no12.jpg The photo came off the web. Like I said, I have a mini.
The first one is labeled "George Dickel Original Tennessee Finest Quality Sippin' Whisky - Superior No.12 Brand - Distilled and Charcoal mellowed at Cascade Hollow...' etc. on a cream colored label.

http://www.dickel.com/cacheable/images/products/whisky/product-casecadehollow.jpg This image has a red label, but all the type is the same. I'm thinking they just changed the label.

The other says 'George Dickel Tennessee - Sour Mash Whisky - Old Fashioned Cascade Hollow Batch Recipe - Distilled and Mellowed at Geo. A. Dickel & Co...' etc. on a black label with white, gold, and red lettering. On the right side, there is a vertical line stating 'Aged 3 Years'.

I know they're not technically bourbons, but I've heard the name Dickel on here and thought for <$2 I could risk a couple of minis. :D

Thoughts or opinions on these?

hambone
07-15-2011, 09:18
I just got back from the store with a fifth of EW BIB. I just wanted out of there fast, as I had just come from the 'devil's stronghold' - Walmart and really wanted to get home.

From doing a little more reading, it looks like the difference in the EW's that I mentioned is proof. The green is 80, black 86(I think- maybe 90) and the BIB is 100. Not sure if the recipe is different.


On another note though, while I was in there, I came across two minis of George Dickel that were on closeout for <$1 ea.

http://www.dickel.com/cacheable/images/products/whisky/product-no12.jpg The photo came off the web. Like I said, I have a mini.
The first one is labeled "George Dickel Original Tennessee Finest Quality Sippin' Whisky - Superior No.12 Brand - Distilled and Charcoal mellowed at Cascade Hollow...' etc. on a cream colored label.

http://www.dickel.com/cacheable/images/products/whisky/product-casecadehollow.jpg This image has a red label, but all the type is the same. I'm thinking they just changed the label.

The other says 'George Dickel Tennessee - Sour Mash Whisky - Old Fashioned Cascade Hollow Batch Recipe - Distilled and Mellowed at Geo. A. Dickel & Co...' etc. on a black label with white, gold, and red lettering. On the right side, there is a vertical line stating 'Aged 3 Years'.

I know they're not technically bourbons, but I've heard the name Dickel on here and thought for <$2 I could risk a couple of minis. :D

Thoughts or opinions on these?

Dickel #12 is very good. Unique and one of my favorties.

Brisko
07-15-2011, 09:48
Likewise. I'm quite fond of Dickel #12, and it is inexpensive.

sutton
07-15-2011, 10:32
I believe the Dickel No. 12 is aged longer and/or has some older whisky in the blend - I think the Cascade Hollow is younger.

And I agree with Brisko and hambone - Dickel 12 is a great value and to me anyway, was a learning experience seeing what a high corn % in the mashbill tastes like. Around here it's about $18/750ml, so a no-brainer.

StraightBoston
07-15-2011, 11:32
+1 on the Dickel 12 (on my original list above.) The Cascade Hollow is the same recipe at 3 years old and is excellent for degreasing tools.

(For reasons I don't understand, the Dickel No. 8 black label is back on the shelves in Massachusetts, a couple bucks higher than the No. 12??!!)

ebo
07-15-2011, 17:15
Dickel 12 is one of the best values in whisk(e)y. I would find it very hard to name a whisk(ey) that is of better quality at the same price. There may be a few, but I don't know what they are.

G.H.Adams
07-15-2011, 21:08
I have to agree that Dickel 12 is a very good value value whiskey that I like a lot.

As for the price difference of Dickel #8 if I am not mistaken Dickel #8 is their best seller. I tend to like #12 better myself.

Tennessee Dave
07-18-2011, 15:59
4 Roses Yellow label would be my pick in that price range.

MacinJosh
07-18-2011, 22:45
Buffalo Trace for $17.99 or Very Old Barton for $9.99 here.

For what you get.....hard to beat either one. My $0.02

Josh

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Photodudems
07-22-2011, 07:19
Thanks for the feedback guys! I tried the Cascade Hollow, and really didn't like it. It was too sharp and acidic to me. Haven't tried the other yet, but will soon. :D

Gillman
07-23-2011, 06:09
Joe's choices would be mine too and I like Bulleit or FC a lot.

Gary

VT Mike
07-31-2011, 20:58
+1 on the Dickel 12 (on my original list above.) The Cascade Hollow is the same recipe at 3 years old and is excellent for degreasing tools.

(For reasons I don't understand, the Dickel No. 8 black label is back on the shelves in Massachusetts, a couple bucks higher than the No. 12??!!)

A few years ago, when Dickel No. 8 was unavailable, I could get Dickel No. 12 for $12 a bottle up here in VT. I think it had been sitting in the state liquor warehouse forever. Now the state sells the No. 8 for $21 and the No. 12 for $24. I wish I had picked up more than one bottle of the No. 12 back then.

Maybe you are seeing a similar situation - older stock of the 12 that has been on the shelf for a long time with older pricing, and newer stock of the 8 with more current pricing.