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sku
09-02-2011, 11:49
Yet another new sourced bourbon, this one from the Bull Run Distillery in Oregon. Per the website, specs are as follows:


Ingredients: This is a "High Rye" bourbon that is 60% Corn, 35% Rye and 5% Barley
Age: A blend of 4 and 5 year old bourbon barrels
Alcohol Content: 42.77% by volume or a little over 85 Proof
Suggested Retail Price: $29.95
Availability: Currently available in Oregon. Other states this fall.
http://www.bullrundistillery.com/Temperance-Trader.html

The mashbill is pretty close to LDI, so that would be my guess. It's labeled as Straight Bourbon.

TomH
09-02-2011, 13:04
http://www.tastingtable.com/entry_detail/national/5218/Bull_Run_Distilling_Co_wont_have_you_waiting.htm

If the above article is correct it would not be LDI, since they say it it a Kentucky Bourbon

Tom

callmeox
09-02-2011, 13:57
60/35/5 hit me as Four Roses, but I don't have a chart on my phone as a reference.

Brisko
09-02-2011, 15:06
Yes, at least according to Oscar's chart, the 4R high rye is 60/35/5. LDI offers 60/36/4 . Not sure if that is a real difference or academic. Does 4R have enough excess production to sell bulk? Maybe, since they're on the hook for less and less of Bulleit's fill.

cowdery
09-03-2011, 16:15
We can be pretty confident that this is LDI juice. Don't let the 1% variation in the mash bill throw you. The BRD web site says it comes from "Bourbon Country," and LDI qualifies. Tasting Table probably took that and assumed Kentucky, an error which no one at BRD made any effort to correct. Same old same old, folks.

By the way, I just finished a big feature story about LDI for Malt Advocate, coming soon.

White Dog
09-06-2011, 20:41
We can be pretty confident that this is LDI juice. Don't let the 1% variation in the mash bill throw you. The BRD web site says it comes from "Bourbon Country," and LDI qualifies. Tasting Table probably took that and assumed Kentucky, an error which no one at BRD made any effort to correct. Same old same old, folks.

By the way, I just finished a big feature story about LDI for Malt Advocate, coming soon.

Can't wait to read it, Chuck. I love saying that LDI is my favorite producer of Rye. Although that is more by accident, rather than intention.:lol:

bad_scientist
02-22-2012, 17:06
Well, it looks like you won't have to go a week without being confused by K&L. This week's e-mail has this bit:

- Patrick Bernards from Portland’s Bull Run Distilley came by this afternoon to present his Temperance Trader Bourbon, an independently bottled batch of Buffalo Trace, high-rye whiskey. He’s sitting on some LDI juice as well. It’s a nice addition to the ever-expanding market of independent American whiskies. We should have it in stock by tomorrow afternoon at $29.99


The company changed their specs since their initial offering: now they just say it's at least 51% corn and less than 10% barley, that it's a blend, and that the youngest barrels are at least 4 years old.

But I assume it still is high rye, and BT doesn't make a high rye bourbon, at least not anything like LDI or 4R. Do they?

So... maybe they blended BT with a high rye bourbon, or a straight rye? Also, the recipe could have changed since the initial bottling.

sku
02-22-2012, 17:28
Well, it looks like you won't have to go a week without being confused by K&L. This week's e-mail has this bit:

- Patrick Bernards from Portlandís Bull Run Distilley came by this afternoon to present his Temperance Trader Bourbon, an independently bottled batch of Buffalo Trace, high-rye whiskey. Heís sitting on some LDI juice as well. Itís a nice addition to the ever-expanding market of independent American whiskies. We should have it in stock by tomorrow afternoon at $29.99


The company changed their specs since their initial offering: now they just say it's at least 51% corn and less than 10% barley, that it's a blend, and that the youngest barrels are at least 4 years old.

But I assume it still is high rye, and BT doesn't make a high rye bourbon, at least not anything like LDI or 4R. Do they?

So... maybe they blended BT with a high rye bourbon, or a straight rye? Also, the recipe could have changed since the initial bottling.

It's LDI. The back label has the tell tale, "distilled in Indiana": https://www.ttbonline.gov/ALFD/publicViewImage.do?id=12013000000001

bad_scientist
02-22-2012, 17:41
It's LDI. The back label has the tell tale, "distilled in Indiana": https://www.ttbonline.gov/ALFD/publicViewImage.do?id=12013000000001

Thanks Sku. Maybe he had it backwards, and had some BT in reserve.