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trumpstylz
11-25-2011, 19:05
I'm saddened by the fact that all 3 of the big 3 beer makers- miller, budweiser, and coors, are now all foreign (sam adams is the largest beer producer). Can someone tell me which of the international bourbon/spirit companies are american?

I know Pernod ricard/Wild turkey is foreign. I was wondering about Diageo and sazerac and the rest. Does anyone know?

nblair
11-25-2011, 22:37
I'll take a stab at it:

Heaven Hill - American
Buffalo Trace/Barton/ - Sazerac (American)
Brown-Forman - American
Jim Beam/Maker's Mark - Beam Inc. (American owned I think...)
Four Roses - Kirin (Japanese)
Wild Turkey - Campari (European)

Diageo is definitely foreign owned, I believe European.

jburlowski
11-27-2011, 08:13
Heaven Hill and Sazerac are privately-owned by American families. Beam and Brown-Forman are publically-traded ---- so it is impossible to define their ownership by nationality.

White Dog
11-27-2011, 10:15
Heaven Hill and Sazerac are privately-owned by American families. Beam and Brown-Forman are publically-traded ---- so it is impossible to define their ownership by nationality.

Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.:skep:

Flyfish
11-27-2011, 11:07
Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.:skep:

According to our well beloved Chuck Cowdery, in Bourbon, Straight, Sazerac is (was?) owned by the Goldring family. The book was published in 2004, hence the problem with verb tense. Ownership could have changed by now but it seems to me that I have seen more recent references to the family in places I can't recall off hand.

Tucker
11-27-2011, 11:08
Who specifically is behind Sazerac? Does anyone know? Obviously the Shapiras own Heaven Hill, but I never hear anything about the actual ownership of Sazerac.:skep:

Still independent, Goldring family-owned and headed by William Goldring.

RegChumpington
11-27-2011, 11:41
I'm saddened by the fact that all 3 of the big 3 beer makers- miller, budweiser, and coors, are now all foreign (sam adams is the largest beer producer).

If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.

MarkEdwards
11-27-2011, 12:07
If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.

Which makes the recent acquisition of Foster's by Miller even sadder.

Bourbon Boiler
11-27-2011, 12:35
If you're voting with your dollars, I don't see that as a negative thing: Miller, Bud and Coors are all mostly terrible. Support your local micro or craft and enjoy the markedly better taste.

Amen. A-B products didn't get any worse when the Belgians came into the picture. I wasn't drinking them then, and won't be now.

jburlowski
11-27-2011, 14:50
Still independent, Goldring family-owned and headed by William Goldring.

My understanding (from Chuck's postings) is that Sazerac is 100% owned by Wm. Goldring.F amily members are also (under a separate corporate umbrella) involved in the wholesaling / distributing end of the business.

cowdery
11-27-2011, 18:35
Re Sazerac, Goldring controls Sazerac but I believe other family members have interests. I just know that the only person Sazerac President Mark Brown has to answer to is Bill Goldring.

Since the company is private, that's all we know.

A separate branch of the same family owns Republic National Distributing Company (http://www.rndc-usa.com/about/history.asp).

Although Brown-Forman is publically owned it is controlled by the Brown family and headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky.

Beam Inc. is headquartered in Deerfield, Illinois.

Diageo is based in London. Pernod is based in Paris. Campari is based in Rome. Kirin is based in Tokyo. Diageo, Pernod and Campari are public. I'm not sure about Kirin.

MGPI, the new owner of the distillery portion of Lawrenceburg Distillers Indiana, is based is Atchison, Kansas.