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trumpstylz
01-08-2012, 18:24
van winkle 107 ten year for 38.99 or the lot b for 55 or so (can't remember the exact price). Which would you put your hard earned dollars toward?

clingman71
01-08-2012, 18:37
*******both********

Clavius
01-08-2012, 18:45
*******both********
^What he said...

fishnbowljoe
01-08-2012, 18:56
*******both********

Yep. Me too. And I did.:rolleyes:

bad_scientist
01-08-2012, 19:05
You guys don't think $55 is too much for Lot B?

callmeox
01-08-2012, 19:09
You guys don't think $55 is too much for Lot B?

I've paid 49 plus tax without hesitation for Lot B.

If you're concerned that the price is too high then take a pass.

AaronWF
01-08-2012, 19:10
10/107. I'm not a fan of recent 'plan B'.

jcg9779
01-08-2012, 19:11
You guys don't think $55 is too much for Lot B?

It was $65 in Atlanta last Spring....didn't even look for it in the Fall release.

Beer&Bourbon
01-08-2012, 19:11
You guys don't think $55 is too much for Lot B?

I think that's a very reasonable price in terms of what it typically sells for, but I'd pass at that since I'm not a big Lot B fan. Get it if you haven't tried it before though. I'd definitely grab the 10/107.

bad_scientist
01-08-2012, 19:13
I've paid 49 plus tax without hesitation for Lot B.

If you're concerned that the price is too high then take a pass.

It's around here for $50, and I did indeed pass. I don't notice that much of a difference between the 10 and 12 year.

AaronWF
01-08-2012, 19:16
It's around here for $50, and I did indeed pass. I don't notice that much of a difference between the 10 and 12 year.

I definitely notice the difference in proof. Lot B isn't strong enough to present the same richness for its age.

SeaninSD
01-08-2012, 19:23
I was in a local store today and they wanted $139 for Lot B! :cry:

They also wanted $89 and $99 for the 10/90 and 10/107 respectively and $229 for the 20 year!

bad_scientist
01-08-2012, 19:30
I definitely notice the difference in proof. Lot B isn't strong enough to present the same richness for its age.

Hah hah, I was trying to be polite, I guess :) My wife likes it because it has no burn after a splash of water, but to my taste it's just not interesting.

fishnbowljoe
01-08-2012, 19:39
Outrageous prices man. I paid $33 for ORVW 10/107, and $42 for LotB.

Clavius
01-08-2012, 19:53
I was in a local store today and they wanted $139 for Lot B! :cry:

They also wanted $89 and $99 for the 10/90 and 10/107 respectively and $229 for the 20 year!
That is ridiculous.

Here in central Kentucky the 10/90 goes for a little under $30, the 10/107 for a little over $30, the Lot B for about $45-50, the 20yr for right around $100 and the 23yr for about $220. And this is Kentucky, where everybody and their mom is looking for anything Pappy!

SDpappy
01-08-2012, 19:54
I bought a few bottles of the Lot B this year and I think for the price, the 10/107 is a better deal. The Pappy 15 is in a different league imo and isn't much more than the Lot B in retail pricing. I passed on an offer for Lot B for $60 but am buying as much Pappy 15 as I can for under $70.

bad_scientist
01-08-2012, 20:02
Retail in Montgomery County, MD:



VAN WINKLE BOURBON 10YR 107P $24.89 750ML

VAN WINKLE OLD RIP 10YR - 90P $23.19 750ML

VAN WINKLE REY - 13YR 95.6P

$45.15



Pappy 15 is also $45, I think. The 20 year old is like $80-90, and the 23 is pretty expensive, close to $200.

You'll never find these, of course, unless you are on a list, but it demonstrates just how much of a markup wholesalers and retailers are charging. It's insane. I know they complain about how much they have to deal with, but retailers must be making a huge, huge profit per bottle.

SeaninSD
01-08-2012, 20:08
I think at the prices this store wants that they are going to sit for a while.

I found the 10/90 and 10/107 for $39 at Total Wine in Phoenix while home for the holidays and thought that was cheap, but you guys sure have some better deals.

The cheapest I found the Lot B for in San Diego is $79, the cheapest for the 15 is $99 and the 20 years for $129, plus add the high CA taxes on top of that.

speedbump47
01-08-2012, 20:37
For me the Lot B didn't represent a good middle point between the ORVW 10/107 and the Pappy 15.

ORVW 10/107 was $40, Lot B was $55 and Pappy 15 was $70 here in LA. The Rye was $70 as well. Tried each one and the Lot B was very underwhelming relative to the others.

Pappy 15 was amazing, ORVW was really good, as was the Rye and Lot B tasted watered down and muted. It must not just be me, because I have still seen 5-6 bottles of Lot B sitting on the shelf for the past 4 weeks after I got mine. ORVW 10/107 is gone (though 10/90 was still there), VWFRR stayed for a few weeks, but the straggling bottles disappeared over the course of 3 days in early Jan. Guess I should have bought another...there's always next season/year.

trumpstylz
01-09-2012, 01:06
Haha. I have a feeling there might have been a different set of responses had I said the 90 proof instead of the 107.

Josh
01-09-2012, 06:05
1) Old Rip 107
2) Hands Down

angler82
01-09-2012, 06:33
I like ORVW 107 a lot but the hunt is a hassle. Only picked up two bottles this release.

Lot B is good whiskey but I don't bother with it when I can find Weller 12 year throughout the year at half the price.

BourbonBaron
01-09-2012, 11:00
I like ORVW 107 a lot but the hunt is a hassle. Only picked up two bottles this release.

Lot B is good whiskey but I don't bother with it when I can find Weller 12 year throughout the year at half the price.

I haven't seen one bottle of the 107 this season. Kinda disappointed about that. I've gotten 2x of the 90 proof for like $32 though. Decent price for those, I think.

I know a few places I can pick up a few more Lot B's but I think I am with you on the Weller 12. I am contemplating ordering a case of that goodness in place of upping the Lot B stock.

Phil T
01-09-2012, 11:35
I love LotB, and am not a fan of Weller 12.. all you guys leaving LotB on the shelf drives me crazy, especially since I can't find any!!

speedbump47
01-09-2012, 13:03
I love LotB, and am not a fan of Weller 12.. all you guys leaving LotB on the shelf drives me crazy, especially since I can't find any!!

Are the Lot B fans really fans of Lot B, or is it as close to Pappy 15 as you could get (due to availability/pricing, etc.)?

Given the marked difference (to my taste buds) between Lot B and 15, I can't ever imagine it not being worth the $15-$20 step up to Pappy 15 if it was on the shelves.

clingman71
01-09-2012, 13:17
Are the Lot B fans really fans of Lot B, or is it as close to Pappy 15 as you could get (due to availability/pricing, etc.)?

Given the marked difference (to my taste buds) between Lot B and 15, I can't ever imagine it not being worth the $15-$20 step up to Pappy 15 if it was on the shelves.

They are rarely equally available. They are different. There is a spiciness and boldness with the 10/107 that the lot B lacks. There is a refined nature (elegance for lack of a better term) with the lot B that the 10/107 lacks. Now, the PVW 15 has the best qualities of both the lot B and 10/107 along with more depth and complexity. As for the weller 12, I certainly like it, and it is certainly a bargain, but it in no way compares to the lot B. It is a great value, and I blend it with OWA for an inexpensive yet tasty daily pour, but neither are up to the level of any of the VWs. Some prefer proof, some prefer age, the 15 has both. Comparing 10/107 and lot B isn't a fair comparison for either of them.

Old Lamplighter
01-09-2012, 13:28
Lot B is good whiskey but I don't bother with it when I can find Weller 12 year throughout the year at half the price.

That's what I'm talking about....:toast:

Phil T
01-09-2012, 13:50
Are the Lot B fans really fans of Lot B, or is it as close to Pappy 15 as you could get (due to availability/pricing, etc.)?

Given the marked difference (to my taste buds) between Lot B and 15, I can't ever imagine it not being worth the $15-$20 step up to Pappy 15 if it was on the shelves.

Fair question. I have had LotB in the past and really enjoyed it. I know the price point difference between LotB and the 15 at actual retail isn't that much different, but if I'm not finding LotB, you know I'm not finding the 15 :smiley_acbt:

dohidied
01-09-2012, 15:33
Are the Lot B fans really fans of Lot B, or is it as close to Pappy 15 as you could get (due to availability/pricing, etc.)?

Given the marked difference (to my taste buds) between Lot B and 15, I can't ever imagine it not being worth the $15-$20 step up to Pappy 15 if it was on the shelves.

I am a fan of Lot B, but I've never tasted PVW15. I found one dusty bottle of Lot B from the 2006 release last year and I think it's great bourbon. A bit lacking in proof, but it makes up for it in richness. I'm also a fan of Weller 12 and OWA, but I think the Lot B is markedly better than both. At $40, i think Lot B is fantastic, but at $55 it's pushing it. I did have a bottle of 10/107 a couple years ago, but I don't think I fully appreciated wheaters enough back then to judge it. All I remember was the heat from the proof. I do have a Lot B and PVW15 from the fall 2011 release and I look forward to seeing how they stack up.

Josh
01-09-2012, 15:39
I've been able to find twice as much Pappy 15 as Lot B this year. And no Old Rip 107 AT ALL.:smiley_acbt:

Special Reserve
01-09-2012, 15:56
I like Lot B. I also like PVW 15.

I opened a bottle of each Labor Day weekend at the start of the football season. I've done this for several years now. The Lot B bottle is half full while the PVW 15 bottle is two-thirds full.

I recognize that PVW 15 may be a better value $/proof alcohol but I don't care. I like the taste of Lot B better.

WhiskyToWhiskey
01-09-2012, 15:59
All that's available here is 10yo 90proof for $60. And lot b 12yo for $72. The latter is definately worth the extra $12. I'm jealous more vw isn't available here.

Hershmeister
01-10-2012, 06:45
Where are you people finding stores stocking the van winkle line much less allowing multiple bottle sales?!

speedbump47
01-10-2012, 07:10
Where are you people finding stores stocking the van winkle line much less allowing multiple bottle sales?!

In Southern California, I was lucky enough to have my name on a list for the Pappy 15 and 20; they never made it to the shelves. The ORVW 10/107, Rye and Lot B were just on the shelves, with no purchase limits listed. Stayed in stock for a few weeks....Lot B was still in stock as of last week.

The Boozer
01-10-2012, 07:26
1) Old Rip 107
2) Hands Down

Ditto. Also prefer Weller 12 which I can get via several "mules" :grin: .

Josh
01-10-2012, 08:15
Ditto. Also prefer Weller 12 which I can get via several "mules" :grin: .

HeeHaw.:grin::grin: :grin: