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KYBourbonlover
01-10-2012, 12:54
HI everybody. I live in Louisville, love bourbon, love trying different bourbons. Love the website and posts. Love bourbon. I am also way into rum and never thought a day would come where I choose a good bourbon over a good rum. The problem I have with rum is that most of it needs to be mixed with something. Or as Carl Spackler once said "it's a little harsh". Usually for me, diet coke. and I hate diet coke but believe diet coke and rum were made for each other. I love how all of the bourbons I drink can go down straight. joe

brewengineer
01-10-2012, 13:36
HI everybody. I live in Louisville, love bourbon, love trying different bourbons. Love the website and posts. Love bourbon. I am also way into rum and never thought a day would come where I choose a good bourbon over a good rum. The problem I have with rum is that most of it needs to be mixed with something. Or as Carl Spackler once said "it's a little harsh". Usually for me, diet coke. and I hate diet coke but believe diet coke and rum were made for each other. I love how all of the bourbons I drink can go down straight. joe

Welcome! I find that the well aged rums can be drank straight up and they are very smooth. One example is Solera 23. I could drink that all night.

JayMonster
01-10-2012, 18:23
Welcome aboard.

I must agree, a GOOD well aged rum goes down quite smoothly (much like is true with bourbon), but junk (aged or not) is just junk (just like bourbon). Montecristo Rum has been my straight rum of choice for some time now.

If ALL your bourbon goes down smooth, either you are very lucky, or haven't sampled enough bourbon. :lol:

KYBourbonlover
01-10-2012, 20:15
Welcome aboard.

I must agree, a GOOD well aged rum goes down quite smoothly (much like is true with bourbon), but junk (aged or not) is just junk (just like bourbon). Montecristo Rum has been my straight rum of choice for some time now.

If ALL your bourbon goes down smooth, either you are very lucky, or haven't sampled enough bourbon. :lol:

The answer is I have not sampled enough. Not near enough :) I've been in ky for ten years. My wife was born and raised here. The only spirit I have really ever been into is rum. The Rums I like to drink straight are the mount gay extra old. I love Ron zacapa and then several I have from Martinique Anyways I've been building my taste and appreciation for ky straight bourbon for about the past five years or so. I feel like I'm still very new to it and am learning a lot near.y everyday. I have moved from mixing with coke to Ginger ale to now on the rocks sometimes with a needed (for me) splash of water. For instance tonight I had a glass of BH ( I'm learning the abbreviations:) ) and to me the ice seems like it has to be taking away from the bourbon. It seems so smooth or light or whatever you would describe it as. Then I had a glass of KC on the rocks but also had to add a splash of water just so I could enjoy it a bit more.

So bottom line is that I have about 20 bottles in my collection and have sampled about 20 more beyond those. So that's it, 40 bourbons tasted total :). So far it has all been pretty g,old quality stuff. I have had no experience
with the cheap stuff. Yet

wmpevans
01-10-2012, 20:36
Welcome.

I'm a rum lover also. I think the best sippin rums neat or with a little ice are rums straight from sugar cane juice....ie...they skip the step of cane juice to molasses to rum. Most rums are distilled from molasses.

My favorite sugar cane rums are Westerhall(hard to find), Barbancourt, Saint James, Ron Zacapa, and 10 Cane.

I also love Mount Gay, mainly because I've been drinking it for years and years.

JayMonster
01-11-2012, 05:49
Being in KY, I guess gives you some advantages in price and selection advantages over what I have available to me here in NJ (NJ does not allow alcohol being shipped, so I am stuck with what is available locally only).

I don't think I have 40 options of Bourbon available here, and certainly a lot of it is either "the cheap stuff" or "the standards" (Wild Turkey, Jim Beam, Old Granddad).

And there is nothing wrong with a splash of water or some ice... hell... once you hit that first "questionable" tasting bourbon... it may become a necessity. :eek:

KYBourbonlover
01-11-2012, 19:50
Being in KY, I guess gives you some advantages in price and selection advantages over what I have available to me here in NJ (NJ does not allow alcohol being shipped, so I am stuck with what is available locally only).

I don't think I have 40 options of Bourbon available here, and certainly a lot of it is either "the cheap stuff" or "the standards" (Wild Turkey, Jim Beam, Old Granddad).

And there is nothing wrong with a splash of water or some ice... hell... once you hit that first "questionable" tasting bourbon... it may become a necessity. :eek:

:lol:

It is nice being in Louisville. I have 4 regular places that have fairly large selections. I'm not sure on prices. Our bourbon in KY is highly taxed. Maybe highest in the nation, I believe.

Alcohol shipping laws are ridiculous. I'll leave it at that.

:)

wmpevas, I agree, I love the sugar cane juice rum. I am a Barbancourt fan as well. I think it's the best bang for your buck with their 4 year. $18 where I live. Most of the sugar cane rums comes from French island such as Haiti (where Barbancourt comes from) and Martinique. I just brought back a bunch this past summer from Martinique. All incredible high quality sippin' rums.

turtle
01-12-2012, 05:30
Hi Joe,
I'm in Louisville also, south end near "Lively Shively." Long time wine drinker, but relatively new to bourbon. Enjoying the few I've tried immensely. What are the 4 places that you mentioned that have large selections here?

Thanks.
Michael T

KYBourbonlover
01-12-2012, 06:55
Hi Joe,
I'm in Louisville also, south end near "Lively Shively." Long time wine drinker, but relatively new to bourbon. Enjoying the few I've tried immensely. What are the 4 places that you mentioned that have large selections here?

Thanks.
Michael T

HI Michael,

My number 1 spot is the Prospect Party Mart, because it is right by my house, Jamie the owner is GREAT, his prices are great and selection is good. Lots of good wine in all price ranges. Then my #2 is Westport Wine and Whiskey, then Brownsboro Party Mart and then the Liquor Barn, great selection, good prices a little too big and boxy for me. I try to keep is a little more home owned when possible.

turtle
01-15-2012, 13:24
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the suggestions on liquor stores. Of the ones you suggested, I've only been to Liquor Barn. That's good to know of some others, and I agree about supporting local places when possible.

Thanks!
Michael

IronHead
01-15-2012, 16:44
Joe,

Louisville doesn't have a great selection of aged rums but if you are looking for a few to try neat I would check out Ron Zacapa 23 (It was mentioned earlier as 'Solera 23'), Pampero Anniversario, El Dorado 15 year, and Zaya. They are all pretty good and readily available around town. The Zacapa and Zaya are both rhum agricole, that is made with cane sugar juice while the El Dorado and Papmero are made from molasses. And while both methods can produce excellent rums there are distinct taste differences that are fun to compare.

What are some of your favorite Bourbons?

KYBourbonlover
01-16-2012, 11:45
Joe,

Louisville doesn't have a great selection of aged rums but if you are looking for a few to try neat I would check out Ron Zacapa 23 (It was mentioned earlier as 'Solera 23'), Pampero Anniversario, El Dorado 15 year, and Zaya. They are all pretty good and readily available around town. The Zacapa and Zaya are both rhum agricole, that is made with cane sugar juice while the El Dorado and Papmero are made from molasses. And while both methods can produce excellent rums there are distinct taste differences that are fun to compare.

What are some of your favorite Bourbons?

Zacapa 23 may be one of my favorites. Zaya I really like, Liked it better when it was coming from Zacapa as opposed to Trinidad as it is now (I think :) Westport Wine and Whiskey carries several rums from Martinique which are always rhum agricole---which I prefer.

The Bourbons....well...I'm still just getting my feet wet. I like Elmer T Lee a lot, Basil Hayden, WR, a Four Roses bottle I have. I have a bottle of Prichards double barrell that I enjoy. I very quickly have gone from mixing with Coke to Ginger ale to rocks to now neat for some. I may add a tad of water or a cube. I'm really trying my best to become familiar with what I'm tasting. I have about 23 bottles currently open in my collection. I'm learning a lot, especially from this website. and I have always asked a lot of questions over the years.