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Jono
01-17-2012, 07:30
http://www.whiskyreviews.blogspot.com/

Sunday, 15 January 2012
whisky review 243 - Johnnie Walker Blue Label

I have never had it and wouldn't due to the ridiculous price.
JW Red is not good. JW Black is decent. I have not had the Green or Gold.
Ralfy likes the Green.

ILLfarmboy
01-17-2012, 09:56
Never had the blue, either.

I like the Green. But its been a while. The last bottle I had called itself a vated malt. (I think) That was before the brewhaha over the use of the term.

Jono
01-17-2012, 11:16
Ralfy uses the term "malt blend" over blended malt due to the confusion.

That makes sense, the first term "malt" sets up the second "blend" and more clearly indicates just malt in the bottle vs "blended malt" which could make one think something other than malt was blended into malt whisky.

ebo
01-17-2012, 17:21
I don't own a bottle, and I probably never will, but I've tasted the Blue. Ralfy hit it on the nose. It's waaaaayyyyy over priced for nothing especially exceptional. I love the Green. The Black is good. The Red sucks.

Special Reserve
01-17-2012, 17:51
I've had the entire flight of JW products.

I must say that the reviews are spot on. Red bad, Black OK, Green good, Gold why?, Blue snob appeal.

I've has several pours of Blue in a trendy bar in Chicago several years ago at a businessman expense. We both agreed that it was over-priced and over-hyped.

White Dog
01-17-2012, 18:52
JW Blue is the same as Dom Perignon. It's only purchased by people who want to show off to other non-coinnoisseurs.

Jono
01-17-2012, 20:28
http://www.forpeatsake.com/Johnnie+Walker/Johnnie+Walker+Green+Label+15+Years+Old/

"Johnnie Walker Green Label is blended only from single malts which include its four signature malts Talisker, Cragganmore, Linkwood, and Caol Ila."

Well, at least it has good malts (don't know anything about Linkwood).

If I ever see it at a good price I may consider it. Binny's shows it for 69.99, which is more than most of the single malts going into it, assuming their standard expressions. Talisker 10 $59.99, Cragganmore 12 $49.99,
Caol Ila 12 $54.99, Linkwood maybe $59-69.

Brisko
01-17-2012, 20:32
The green is worth it, I think. It is what you might call an "old highlands" style. In the same vein as Clynelish and Springbank while retaining the Walker identity.

Stu
01-17-2012, 21:24
I agree with all the comments so far. Johnny Blue and Bourbon Supreme are the best two examples I can think of that typify what's below my signature line.

SDpappy
01-17-2012, 21:43
JW Blue is the same as Dom Perignon. It's only purchased by people who want to show off to other non-coinnoisseurs.

I would disagree with this statement. Dom can be amazing and ages very well. I haven't had any older than the 82 but the 96 was awesome.

Better anology would be Ace of Spades champagne.

Megawatt
01-21-2012, 07:31
Too bad the Green was discontinued in Ontario, and then when it came back the price went up from $58 to $75. Should have bought some before.

I had a glass of Black Label the other night, and quite enjoyed it.

StraightNoChaser
01-23-2012, 13:56
Ironically I read that the green label is being discontinued. Better start packing those cellars with bottles if you're a fan.

Brisko
01-23-2012, 14:06
Where have you heard that? I remember reading the same rumors about a year and a half ago, and at the time I e-mailed Diageo about it and got a pretty solid response that the weren't discontinuing it. I no longer have that e-mail.

Not to say that they wouldn't change their minds.

EricABQ
01-24-2012, 15:10
I hope that's not true about the green label. I think it's exceptional, and one of my absolute favorites.

edit: this link makes it sound pretty definitive that it is gone: http://www.themarketingsite.com/live/content.php?Item_ID=19025

Tico
01-24-2012, 15:50
I think the gold 18 is my favorite out of the JW lineup. Great value when its on sale at costco for $55

Lab Walker
02-20-2012, 16:09
I don't know, but this guy is good!!!

Clavius
02-20-2012, 18:08
Is the green truly discontinued?? I know a store that has a few bottles of it and I've been interested in trying it. If it's truly gone I'm going to pick up a few bottles of it...

MacinJosh
02-20-2012, 22:15
I think the gold 18 is my favorite out of the JW lineup. Great value when its on sale at costco for $55

Apparently Costco gets all the good whisk(e)y, including Lagavulin 16 for under $60 (just ridiculous).

Just got done reading this month's Consumer Reports tonight and Costco blew away the competition.

It's now official....I'm switching from Sam's Club to Costco.

MacinJosh
02-20-2012, 22:18
Apparently Costco gets all the good whisk(e)y, including Lagavulin 16 for under $60 (just ridiculous).

Just got done reading this month's Consumer Reports tonight and Costco blew away the competition.

It's now official....I'm switching from Sam's Club to Costco.

And P.S., the Blue is the winner IMHO. I've tried them all. But for the price, the Gold is the hands down winner. I've tried the Blue several times at Whisk(e)y Expos/Fests and it's just not worth the additional cost compared to the Gold.

Gillman
02-21-2012, 05:44
I find the Gold better in taste, irrespective of price. There is a super-aged element ("old books") to Blue which is attractive, but overall I think Gold is a better dram. Is Gold all-malt?

If not, I would think the grain element is fairly minimal whereas in the Blue iteration, I can taste the grain whisky every time I drink it (which is not too often!)...

Gary

Tico
02-21-2012, 06:27
Apparently Costco gets all the good whisk(e)y, including Lagavulin 16 for under $60 (just ridiculous).

Just got done reading this month's Consumer Reports tonight and Costco blew away the competition.

It's now official....I'm switching from Sam's Club to Costco.

Yup, gold for $55, Lagavulin 16 for $55 and Oban 14 for $45 are the three regulars I see every visit.

Brisko
02-21-2012, 09:56
Yup, gold for $55, Lagavulin 16 for $55 and Oban 14 for $45 are the three regulars I see every visit.

It seems that Costco doesn't carry the same things in all areas. I'm going to start a thread over in "Deals" so we don't get too off-topic here.

MacinJosh
02-22-2012, 16:06
It seems that Costco doesn't carry the same things in all areas. I'm going to start a thread over in "Deals" so we don't get too off-topic here.

Very true. I have a friend who has a Costco membership here and I sent him after a Lagavulin for me. He said they didn't have it. So I'm fearful my local store won't have these wonderful expressions. Oh well, sounds like CR thinks they're better than Sam's anyway. I doubt whisky factored into their comparisons. :D

To answer the "all malt" question....I'm fairly certain all the JW releases are blends.

cigarnv
02-22-2012, 16:11
Very true. I have a friend who has a Costco membership here and I sent him after a Lagavulin for me. He said they didn't have it. So I'm fearful my local store won't have these wonderful expressions. Oh well, sounds like CR thinks they're better than Sam's anyway. I doubt whisky factored into their comparisons. :D

To answer the "all malt" question....I'm fairly certain all the JW releases are blends.

Josh, I don't think you need a Costco membership to buy liquor at any Costco that has a separate entrance liquor store.....

Special Reserve
02-22-2012, 16:19
In MI you do not need to be a member to purchase alcohol or prescription drugs at Costco.

Unfortunately in MI Costco does not have a good selection and the price is state controlled. However I do strongly recommend purchasing generic prescription drugs at Costco. I buy a 3 month supply of a generic for <$10 by paying cash. If I went to a regular pharmacy and used my prescription plan it would cost me $45 in copay alone.

My doctor recommended Costco and she also told me that you may purchase alcohol without being a member.

I'm a member from time to time pending on my current needs.

Tucker
02-22-2012, 16:23
To answer the "all malt" question....I'm fairly certain all the JW releases are blends.

They are all blends, but the Green label is a "blended malt scotch whisky" (fka vatted or pure malt) and the others are "blended scotch whisky".

Brisko
02-22-2012, 19:28
They are all blends, but the Green label is a "blended malt scotch whisky" (fka vatted or pure malt) and the others are "blended scotch whisky".

Correct. Green is all malt (formerly called "vatted malt").

bad_scientist
02-22-2012, 19:32
The Green is sherried to hell, to my taste. Supposedly it has both Talisker and Caol Ila in it, but since I don't get much smoke or anything of the sort, I'm guessing they're unpeated.

ILLfarmboy
02-22-2012, 23:25
The Green is sherried to hell, to my taste. Supposedly it has both Talisker and Caol Ila in it, but since I don't get much smoke or anything of the sort, I'm guessing they're unpeated.

Hmm. I love the Green but I couldn't drink a cask strength bottle of McCallan (my only experience with McCallan).

Brisko
02-23-2012, 06:59
The Green is sherried to hell, to my taste. Supposedly it has both Talisker and Caol Ila in it, but since I don't get much smoke or anything of the sort, I'm guessing they're unpeated.

I get a fair amount of sherry influence but I wouldn't call it a sherry bomb like Aberlour or some others. There's definitely Talisker in there, though. It's not a huge part but if you nose and taste JW Green and Talisker 10 head to head you'll find it. The peat is mostly evident on the attack. It disappears in the mid-palate and finish, where the more delicate Speysides take over. Remember that they're not aiming for an agressive islander style, but rather more along the lines of old Highlands. Also, because it's 15 years old, the peat tends to mellow where some of the sherried aspects get louder.

unclebunk
02-23-2012, 07:15
I don't own a bottle, and I probably never will, but I've tasted the Blue. Ralfy hit it on the nose. It's waaaaayyyyy over priced for nothing especially exceptional. I love the Green. The Black is good. The Red sucks.

Yes. Yes. Yes and yes.:grin: I actually always have a 1.75L bottle of Black on hand and it goes over well with friends who want a little extra taste but don't want to be bowled over by their whisky. I would never buy a bottle of Blue at the price it goes for around here, but I did stand in line behind a guy who bought two cases of it recently when Binny's was having a 15% off sale on all spirits. Even with the discount it wouldn't be worth it to me.

bad_scientist
02-23-2012, 07:18
Hmm. I love the Green but I couldn't drink a cask strength bottle of McCallan (my only experience with McCallan).

Well, if you're ever curious about sherried scotches, Glendronach Revival is a good example of a balanced one, much different from the Macallan CS. Not my cup of tea-colored whisky, but I'll admit it's good.

Neat
03-10-2012, 16:34
Apparently Costco gets all the good whisk(e)y, including Lagavulin 16 for under $60 (just ridiculous).

Just got done reading this month's Consumer Reports tonight and Costco blew away the competition.

It's now official....I'm switching from Sam's Club to Costco.

costco's pricing is regional. i've read about the prices costco charges for sm's in other markets (usually california). not the case here in texas. no big difference with the major liquor chains.