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Brisko
04-05-2012, 13:00
Does anybody have a list of bourbons and ryes that are less than four years old? I know there are several legacy brands that have been relegated to bottom of the bottom shelf status and I'm curious if anybody finds them at all drinkable?

Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
Cabin Still
Old Crow
Ancient Age
Heaven Hill Ultra Deluxe
Rittenhouse 80 proof
Stephen Foster Rye
Pikesville RyeAs far as I know all of those are three-year-olds currently. I'd guess the ryes fare better than the bourbons in terms of drinkability. I've had Cabin Still and Old Crow and there's not much to be said for them. Cabin Still might appeal to someone who enjoys corn whiskey; it's very corny and raw, and not very sweet. That's the best I can say about it.

Anybody have a different experience? And feel free to add to the list.

JayMonster
04-05-2012, 13:38
Does anybody have a list of bourbons and ryes that are less than four years old? I know there are several legacy brands that have been relegated to bottom of the bottom shelf status and I'm curious if anybody finds them at all drinkable?

Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
Cabin Still
Old Crow
Rebel Yell
Ancient Age
Heaven Hill Ultra Deluxe
Rittenhouse 80 proof
Stephen Foster Rye
Pikesville RyeAs far as I know all of those are three-year-olds currently. I'd guess the ryes fare better than the bourbons in terms of drinkability. I've had Cabin Still, Old Crow, and Rebel Yell and there's not much to be said for any of them. Cabin Still might appeal to someone who enjoys corn whiskey; it's very corny and raw, and not very sweet. That's the best I can say about it. The other two are just crap.

Anybody have a different experience? And feel free to add to the list.

As far as I can tell, at the very least, Rebel Yell is 4 years old. I have only tried it once, and wouldn't have called it crap, as much as... Very Boring. It reminded me of some Canadian Whiskies I have tried... Flavorless and boring... Almost closer to a brown xolored Vodka.

Brisko
04-05-2012, 13:53
You're probably right. I'll edit my post to reflect that.

sku
04-05-2012, 14:06
I believe Early Times Kentucky Whiskey is also 3 yo.

I like Pikesville. Very nice stuff for the price.

dohidied
04-05-2012, 15:29
I can still buy the Willett Rye 3 year at Costco.

Bourbon Boiler
04-05-2012, 16:53
You could do worse than Old Crow. You could certainly do a lot better, I'm just saying you could do worse.

tmckenzie
04-05-2012, 17:29
I enjoy younger whiskeys. On that list the ryes listed and AA is a good pour.

White Dog
04-05-2012, 18:35
Does anybody have a list of bourbons and ryes that are less than four years old? I know there are several legacy brands that have been relegated to bottom of the bottom shelf status and I'm curious if anybody finds them at all drinkable?

Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
Cabin Still
Old Crow
Ancient Age
Heaven Hill Ultra Deluxe
Rittenhouse 80 proof
Stephen Foster Rye
Pikesville RyeAs far as I know all of those are three-year-olds currently. I'd guess the ryes fare better than the bourbons in terms of drinkability. I've had Cabin Still and Old Crow and there's not much to be said for them. Cabin Still might appeal to someone who enjoys corn whiskey; it's very corny and raw, and not very sweet. That's the best I can say about it.

Anybody have a different experience? And feel free to add to the list.

Are we sure about this list? I can't recall an age statement on Cabin or AA, but I could be wrong. My current Pikesville shows 36 months, while my current Stephen Foster states 30 months.

JayMonster
04-05-2012, 18:47
Are we sure about this list? I can't recall an age statement on Cabin or AA, but I could be wrong. My current Pikesville shows 36 months, while my current Stephen Foster states 30 months.

While I can't find it on any pictures of the label, multiple sources put Ancient Age at 36 months.

Cabin Still however appears to be 4 years old.

White Dog
04-05-2012, 18:50
While I can't find it on any pictures of the label, multiple sources put Ancient Age at 36 months.

Cabin Still however appears to be 4 years old.

If AA is 36 months, then it must state it on the label.

JayMonster
04-05-2012, 18:57
If AA is 36 months, then it must state it on the label.

Understood and agreed, which is why I stated as I did. The information seems to be conflicting.

White Dog
04-05-2012, 18:59
As far as I can tell, at the very least, Rebel Yell is 4 years old. I have only tried it once, and wouldn't have called it crap, as much as... Very Boring. It reminded me of some Canadian Whiskies I have tried... Flavorless and boring... Almost closer to a brown xolored Vodka.

Hahahaha. Rebel Yell is close to being my worst Bourbon on the market.

Brisko
04-05-2012, 19:49
I can still buy the Willett Rye 3 year at Costco.yes, but this is more of a one-off, where these others are in regular production.


Are we sure about this list? I can't recall an age statement on Cabin or AA, but I could be wrong. My current Pikesville shows 36 months, while my current Stephen Foster states 30 months.

I'm not sure about the list but Cabin Still is definitely "fully aged for 36 months." There are oceans of this stuff in my marketplace and I just bought a bottle this fall.

deathevocation
04-06-2012, 00:19
I've got a bottle of Cabin Still. It's not that bad.

dohidied
04-06-2012, 00:24
If AA is 36 months, then it must state it on the label.

I bought a 200ml of AA a few months back and it said 36 months old on the back label.

Brisko
04-06-2012, 11:37
I've got a bottle of Cabin Still. It's not that bad.

I agree with you but I can get HH BiB for not much more $ plus it's 20 degrees higher proof. But yeah, if you like your whiskey young and corny, with no noticeable wood influence, it's not bsd.

I could be wrong but it doesn't taste like a wheater either.

Lost Pollito
04-06-2012, 12:00
Cabin Still however appears to be 4 years old.
The Cabin Still I have is 6 years old. However, it's a dusty, so I suppose the age could have dropped.

Brisko
04-06-2012, 13:10
The Cabin Still I have is 6 years old. However, it's a dusty, so I suppose the age could have dropped.

I'll bet yours is 90 proof, too.

I don't think HH kept it that way for long after they acquired the brand.

Lost Pollito
04-06-2012, 13:14
I'll bet yours is 90 proof, too.
80 proof actually.

Brisko
04-06-2012, 13:17
Interesting. Any idea when it was bottled?

Lost Pollito
04-06-2012, 13:41
Interesting. Any idea when it was bottled?
Early 80's I think.

Brisko
04-06-2012, 13:44
Not to turn this into a Cabin Still thread, but a COLA search reveals that in a couple of COLAs from February 1993 where this was listed as 45% abv. The images aren't available so I can't say if there was an age statement. In April of that year two more COLAs show up where it was listed at 40%. These were all listed as DSP-31 products.

If I go back to the mid 80s it appears that there are COLAs for both 80 and 90 proof versions.

There are COLAs from '05 and '06 that have the 36 month age statement on the back label and both are 40% abv.

Brisko
04-10-2012, 07:36
I bought a 200ml of AA a few months back and it said 36 months old on the back label.

I checked out the bottles at my local store and they were NAS. But the bottom of the bottle had a "10" so possibly these are a couple years old.

I'll check around.

Young Blacksmith
04-10-2012, 11:21
look at the neck band. That's where the 36 month statement is, not on the main label.

Brisko
04-10-2012, 11:29
look at the neck band. That's where the 36 month statement is, not on the main label.

I did, but I'll double check next time I'm in.

Brisko
04-11-2012, 09:38
look at the neck band. That's where the 36 month statement is, not on the main label.

Checked again and you were right. Had to put on my good specs to find it.:rolleyes:

Gillman
04-11-2012, 10:09
I don't know if this counts since you mentioned HH Ultra Deluxe, but Heaven Hill as such (no qualifier, the gold-and-black label and 40% ABV) also is 36 months now. I seem to recall it being NAS in the past, but maybe I never looked carefully enough because I almost never buy it, the HH Bonded is indeed the way to go (IMO) for its lower end.

Gary

Young Blacksmith
04-11-2012, 18:25
Don't worry Brisko, I was just in a store earlier that day and found the AA age statement myself.

ethangsmith
04-12-2012, 18:09
Yellowstone is also 3 years old according to my 90 proof bottle. Then there's the Hirsch/McCormic corn whiskies that are aged for only a few months.....