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Josh
05-30-2012, 17:06
It has been reported that Five Wives Vodka, made by Ogden's Own distillery in Utah, has been banned from store shelves by the state of Idaho because it was deemed to be offensive to Mormons. Polygamy Porter is still available in the state.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151940/Five-wives-vodka-banned-Idaho-offensive-Mormons--Polygamy-Porter-allowed.html

On a related note, the sale of Dirty Bastard Ale, one of the best beers from Founders, one of the best Michigan micro-brewers, was blocked in Alabama back in April. Fat Bastard Wines and Raging Bitch beer are still sold.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/dirty-bastard-beer-ban_n_1438734.html

Any thoughts? These examples seem silly, but how far is too far when it comes to alcohol brand names? Should states be involved in policing names at all? Or should the market just sort it out?

univibe88
05-30-2012, 17:47
Market should sort it out.

weller_tex
05-30-2012, 18:13
It has been reported that Five Wives Vodka, made by Ogden's Own distillery in Utah, has been banned from store shelves by the state of Idaho because it was deemed to be offensive to Mormons. Polygamy Porter is still available in the state.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151940/Five-wives-vodka-banned-Idaho-offensive-Mormons--Polygamy-Porter-allowed.html

On a related note, the sale of Dirty Bastard Ale, one of the best beers from Founders, one of the best Michigan micro-brewers, was blocked in Alabama back in April. Fat Bastard Wines and Raging Bitch beer are still sold.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/dirty-bastard-beer-ban_n_1438734.html

Any thoughts? These examples seem silly, but how far is too far when it comes to alcohol brand names? Should states be involved in policing names at all? Or should the market just sort it out?
Look I got chastised for bringing politics unthinkingly into a thread and deservedly so..but this post is just a bait for a political response given the current climate of political correctness. I think it needs to be moved..

ebo
05-30-2012, 18:28
Political correctness sucks.... post what ya want. :grin:

weller_tex
05-30-2012, 18:29
Political correctness sucks.... post what ya want. :grin:
..yeah then I will get blasted. That's why this should be in in PRC!

bad_scientist
05-30-2012, 18:35
Funny thing is, Michigan, home of the Dirty Bastard, blocked sales of Raging Bitch! When I'm there visiting my wife's family, I see Dirty Bastard LITERALLY next to the milk in the local grocery store! Talk about double standards.

Is this political? I think as long as we stay directly on topic, and offer examples of our own, it can be civil.

weller_tex
05-30-2012, 18:41
Funny thing is, Michigan, home of the Dirty Bastard, blocked sales of Raging Bitch! When I'm there visiting my wife's family, I see Dirty Bastard LITERALLY next to the milk in the local grocery store! Talk about double standards.

Is this political? I think as long as we stay directly on topic, and offer examples of our own, it can be civil.
This should be in PRC..no doubt. You can be civil, but political at the same time..this belongs in politics.

smokinjoe
05-30-2012, 18:47
This should be in PRC..no doubt. You can be civil, but political at the same time..this belongs in politics.

Whining is not becoming to Texans....you've made your point. Let's wait and see how the Mods feel.

weller_tex
05-30-2012, 18:52
Whining is not becoming to Texans....you've made your point. Let's wait and see how the Mods feel.
Not whining..just making my point. I got burned once on this board, ain't gonna happen again. No more from me on this..

weller_tex
05-30-2012, 18:59
Whining is not becoming to Texans....you've made your point. Let's wait and see how the Mods feel.
Off topics..For what it is worth..never noticed Plankton in your posts. Spongebob is a must see around our household, especially Patrick..

Josh
05-30-2012, 19:03
Look I got chastised for bringing politics unthinkingly into a thread and deservedly so..but this post is just a bait for a political response given the current climate of political correctness. I think it needs to be moved..

Not baiting, just asking what people thought about the topic. It has to do with government, sure, but there's nothing partisan about it. People of all political stripes around this forum bitch about state regulators all the time.

My political views are pretty well known, but when it comes to this, I think the market should sort out the issue of which names are offensive and which aren't. If the people of Idaho find the name offensive, then they won't buy it. Same for Dirty Bastard or Raging Bitch.

callmeox
05-30-2012, 19:20
Are all of the states involved control states of some order?

Josh
05-30-2012, 19:28
Yes.

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Brisko
05-31-2012, 07:43
If the people of Idaho find the name offensive, then they won't buy it. Same for Dirty Bastard or Raging Bitch.

Based on my very limited understanding, the people who might be offended by Five Wives on religious grounds probably wouldn't be purchasing any vodka anyway, on religious grounds.

As far as names go, I've always thought Dirty Bastard, Raging Bitch, etc. to be harmless, though a bit indecorous. Given that one need be 21 to buy these products the argument can hardly be made that they're corrupting the young.:rolleyes:

But to make an analogy to a larger audience, would any of you be offended by say, a wine called Crown of Thorns? We already have He'Brew beer.

DeanSheen
05-31-2012, 11:08
But to make an analogy to a larger audience, would any of you be offended by say, a wine called Crown of Thorns? We already have He'Brew beer.

Ohh I'm a heathen so bring on the Crown of Thorns.

On a related note, the makers of He'Brew are actually nice Jewish boys from Brooklyn. The Jews I know find it hilarious.

Check out the names of their other beers.

http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/index.html

BradleyC
05-31-2012, 12:12
Years ago Dogfish Head had a pilsner they called "Prescription Pils." They were forced to rename it and came up with "Golden Shower" as a protest. I thought that was rather clever, but they ended up having to change the label again and it's now called "Golden Era." All of this being said, Oskar Blues' "Mamma's Little Yellow Pils" pilsner seems to have escaped the controversy.

miller542
06-01-2012, 18:07
Some people buy offensively named alcoholic drinks simply because of the name, others avoid offensively named alcholic drinks simply because of the name. On a long enough time-line, the producer will find out which products are economically viable and which ones are not, and in the end, it will fix itself.

Which is just a long way of saying "let the market decide." Personally, its like others have said many times, it's whats in the bottle that matters.

MarkEdwards
06-02-2012, 04:07
I regularly buy Arrogant Bastard ales. I don't really care for the name, but the brew is outstanding.

bad_scientist
06-02-2012, 08:13
I regularly buy Arrogant Bastard ales. I don't really care for the name, but the brew is outstanding.

Fun fact - the dye that goes into the labels for Arrogant Bastard is recognized as carcinogenic by the state of California. I think it has barium in it?

ILLfarmboy
06-03-2012, 12:12
Which is just a long way of saying "let the market decide." ......

Carefull, now.....that kind of overtly right wing sloganeering will get you into trouble 'round here...;)

White Dog
06-04-2012, 19:38
The only beverages that offend me are BH and Booker's.;)

ILLfarmboy
06-04-2012, 20:23
The only beverages that offend me are BH and Booker's.;)

Expanding it to all beverages.........I'm offended when someone with crappy water uses their city water for their fountain pop. Get a God Damn RO system if you're gonna carbonate your own water. When I know a town's water sucks I order soda instead of ice tea........but sometimes this dosn't work out.....

BradleyC
06-04-2012, 21:35
Expanding it to all beverages.........I'm offended when someone with crappy water uses their city water for their fountain pop. Get a God Damn RO system if you're gonna carbonate your own water. When I know a town's water sucks I order soda instead of ice tea........but sometimes this dosn't work out.....


Your posts really crack me up sometimes. I think you post a lot of what we all think just never say. Keep it up my friend.

jcg9779
06-05-2012, 11:23
When I know a town's water sucks I order soda instead of ice tea........but sometimes this dosn't work out.....

As much as I love iced tea, I usually get Cokes for this very reason.

Josh
06-05-2012, 11:35
The only beverages that offend me are BH and Booker's.;)

Those don't offend me nearly as much as Benchmark. If thats the benchmark, the standard is set really really low. :puke:

dean_martin
06-08-2012, 13:54
Heck, I'm glad to see we finally have something from FOUNDERS even if it's limited to the Birmingham area. I've been waiting to try Centennial for 3 years and I'd given up on ever trying Breakfast Stout or KBS.

We don't like no artsy-fartsy beverages neither:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/31/cycles-gladiator-wine-ban_n_248591.html

Phischy
06-10-2012, 01:31
Bird Dog Whiskey...we use this as punishment shots. It's horrible.