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DaveOfAtl
08-09-2012, 07:29
Anybody else see this? http://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/PressRelease.asp?newsid=182

Hefty price tag, but looks very interesting. Set to be released in September.

Edit: I guess technically this isn't bourbon . . .

Rutherford
08-09-2012, 07:51
If they're in charred new oak, it can technically be classified as bourbon. Our regulations don't require a specific type of oak, nor that the barrel be a certain size.

DaveOfAtl
08-09-2012, 08:00
If they're in charred new oak, it can technically be classified as bourbon. Our regulations don't require a specific type of oak, nor that the barrel be a certain size.

Okay, that's right. I was thinking it had to be American oak, but I see that's not a requirement in the CFR. The press release doesn't say whether it was new oak, but it uses "whiskey" and "American whiskey" a few times, rather than bourbon. The only reference to bourbon is with regard to the mashbill. Either way, sounds like a cool experiment.

Tucker
08-09-2012, 08:14
Entry proof is too high (>125) to be bourbon.

Rutherford
08-09-2012, 08:37
Ahh, I stand corrected.

AaronWF
08-09-2012, 09:33
Very interesting, thanks for the link. I have yet to spring for a BTEC, but the description tempts me. 90pf and chillfiltered, eh? Eh.

StraightNoChaser
08-09-2012, 15:49
Very interesting, thanks for the link. I have yet to spring for a BTEC, but the description tempts me. 90pf and chillfiltered, eh? Eh.
Between the price and the proof, I don't see any reason to even consider buying these "experiments"

Tucker
08-09-2012, 15:52
I'm sure they'll sell out; sounds a little more appealing than rice or oats.

I'll pass unless one shows up on smokinjoe's dining room table.

MyOldKyDram
08-09-2012, 16:09
Sounds interesting, but with so much coming out in the fall...

Doubtful.

Tico
08-09-2012, 16:32
Very interesting, thanks for the link. I have yet to spring for a BTEC, but the description tempts me. 90pf and chillfiltered, eh? Eh.
Bingo

On the surface it sounds good but those two points didn't go over well with me.

sku
08-09-2012, 17:05
This sounds pretty interesting to me. At a time when aged bourbon is getting harder to come by, BT is sending out a 19 and a 23 year old, and made from the high rye mash which hasn't ever had anything that old out there as far as I recall. I'm game.

Bourbon Boiler
08-09-2012, 17:14
I'll probably have to give these a try. BTEC = Lighter wallet.

DaveOfAtl
08-09-2012, 18:55
This sounds pretty interesting to me. At a time when aged bourbon is getting harder to come by, BT is sending out a 19 and a 23 year old, and made from the high rye mash which hasn't ever had anything that old out there as far as I recall. I'm game.

Agreed. The opportunity to try an extra aged BT high rye mashbill will be too much for me to pass up ... If I can find one of either release. Wonder how much they made.

Stormeh
08-09-2012, 19:01
As much as I hate to admit it, I will probably bite on one of these.

WAINWRIGHT
08-09-2012, 19:20
This sounds pretty interesting to me. At a time when aged bourbon is getting harder to come by, BT is sending out a 19 and a 23 year old, and made from the high rye mash which hasn't ever had anything that old out there as far as I recall. I'm game.

I have only purchased 3 BTEC bottles, but this has my attention,I am very curious to see the influence of a larger cask on these whiskies I am expecting a lot of complexity with less wood influence than you may expect.

jburlowski
08-10-2012, 07:10
IIRC, Sazerac bought AA in 1992. If that is correct, was the 23 yo experiment begun by the pre-BT AA? Or by Sazerac at a different location?

ChainWhip
06-27-2013, 21:15
Hey gang-

Have you all had a chance to try these two expressions (or spend more time with them)? How's the 19 vs the 23?

Trey Manthey
06-28-2013, 06:01
I bought the 19 and my friend bought the 23. We both liked the 19 more. Might want to own, but I wouldn't buy another. It's been a while, so I can't remember any notes, but I'll give it another whirl.

ChainWhip
06-28-2013, 21:03
So I totally forgot I had a sample from a swap of the 19yr - it had been hiding behind some other samples & I have to say the BTEC Giant French Oak 19yr is a success in my book.

It's got the classic bourbon sweetness up front followed by butterscotch, just a touch of saltiness and wood (maybe some rainier cherries here too). Finishes w/ tannins & spice that transitions into hong-cha (generic term for red-black/fermented teas like oolong)

WAINWRIGHT
06-29-2013, 06:21
The BTEC bottles are always a gamble in my book mainly due to the price they command,but I really have to agree in regards that this one was rather successful.I found in to be rich,sweet,deep and rather complex with a much lower amount of wood influence than you might think.$50 for a 375 ridiculous yes,but at around $30-35 I would buy a lot more,I really enjoyed this one as well.Johnny your notes were pretty spot on in my book.

Flyfish
06-29-2013, 07:46
Agreed. The opportunity to try an extra aged BT high rye mashbill will be too much for me to pass up ... If I can find one of either release. Wonder how much they made.
The problem with a 23-year experiment is that making "enough" might leave you with lots of failure on your hands. If you knock it out of the park but didn't make "enough," you have to wait 23 years to get more. You have to admire a company that puts resources into experiments like this. Nowadays, there is a lot of innovation going on. Twenty three years ago, not so much.