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MurphyDawg
07-27-2003, 22:30
You guys know the drill, let fly what is in your glass!!



TomC

Paradox
07-28-2003, 06:04
Well, after finishing that bottle of IW Harper 15 yo (80 proof bourbon just doesn't cut it anymore in the least!), I decided to pop the cork on a bottle of Van Winkle 'Special Reserve' 12 yo 'Lot B'. I am really enjoying this bourbon. It fills the mouth with sweet yet varying, complex tastes and finishes nicely with a bit of heat, but good heat. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'd love to pair this up with one of my newly acquired Van Winkle cigar's, but I'll wait to pair them up with the Van Winkle 13yo Rye as I hear they match perfectly... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Ambernecter
07-28-2003, 14:40
A.H.Hirsh 16yo Reserve and Rock Hill Farms. Two very respected players by you chaps on this forum - who the hell else would I listen to?
RHF is my choice for absolute Bourbonic perfection - THE blueprint if you will. An amazingly clean, clear taste, smooth finish and so very moreish. The 100 proof is just right and when compared to Wild turkey 101 very "user friendly." In other words I think it is a perfect intro to a higher proof Bourbon than say Wild Turkey 101, or Knob Creek, both of which I've seen scare people off.
When changing to the Hirsch I notice a little more substance in the mouthfeel, and a taste / finish that reminds me of fresh sea air. Crazy but it's there!

Cheers!

Buckky
07-29-2003, 08:09
last night I had Bulleit for the first time at a local restaurant. I was pleasantly surprised...many at this site have had little good to say about it. I believe it is now being made at Buffalo Trace. The "candy" that i taste in many BT products was there. I would take Buffalo Trace or AAA10yr over this in a heartbeat but it compared favorably to the Dickel 12 I also had...I was encouraged enough that I will buy a bottle of this someday and give it a more thorough evaluation.

Paradox
07-29-2003, 08:23
Is it being made by Buffalo Trace? I 'thought' it was made by Four Roses (Seagram's), but I'd like to know for sure now... Bobby, Chuck? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bobbyc
07-29-2003, 09:15
Both BT and Seagrams are in it's past. When at the Bourbon Festival Sampler in May, I spoke briefly to Tom Bulleit, a real nice guy. He said he is affiliated with Diageo now. This is where we will need Chuck, because I don't know, Did Diageo pick up the Seagrams unit and get Bulleit as well or did they split up at the sale? BTW I have drank Bulleit on 2 occasions, I don't have a bottle yet, but it is on the " To Get" list. I'll drink it again. I had seen some negative comments about it , but it comes over nice for me, It's not real high end and I don't think they are going for that. To me it's a good solid drinker, I don't think you would get out if shape if someone in your party poured a little coke in it. It does however stand good on it's own. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif
I've had the pleasure of drinking this at the Talbot in the company of fellow StraightBourbonites.
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Paradox
07-29-2003, 09:20
Thanks Bobby. During last years trip when the 4 of us were on a tour at Four Roses we had the lucky opportunity to be given a private little tasting of all their products and out came the Bulleit as well. I didn't know about the BT affiliation until now...

cornsqueezins
07-29-2003, 11:05
How is that pronounced exactly? "Bullet" or "Bulleet" or "Bullee-it"? Just curious.....

Thanks,

Troy

ratcheer
07-29-2003, 12:05
In my mind, it has always been your third alternative, "Bull-ee-it", but there is also no accounting for how people pronounce their names. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Tim

Paradox
07-29-2003, 13:04
I've always called it "Bull-ee-it", but have wondered as well if othes say it differently.

bobbyc
07-29-2003, 13:41
At the Bourbon Festival Sampler Tom Bulleit was set up , giving out glasses with 50 ml bottles of product in them. Also he was pouring freely from a 750 ml. He extended his hand and introduced himself. He pronounced it the same way as those things you put in a gun.
A small touch of Wathens

bluesbassdad
07-29-2003, 14:24
I started the afternoon (not that I drink every afternoon) with the last shot and a half from my first bottle of Old Commonwealth (ORVW in drag).

Then on a whim I reached for the Old Weller 12 y/o, which I dismissed on first tasting, came to enjoy on the second outing, and pronounced a good buy on my third try.

Today it took about half a glass for me to get the OC/ORVW out of my head and taste the OW on its own merits. Anyone looking for an economy wheater can't go wrong with this one. (YMMV, but I would want to know why. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
07-29-2003, 19:18
What a coincidence. I am drinking Bulleit tonite (7/29). I drove from NC to my parents' in WV today. I had one remaining drink in my bottle of EC 12 yo at their house. So, I headed out to the only liquor store within 20 min to buy another bottle, but they don't carry EC anymore. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I scanned their limited selection. Not being a big WT fan, I spied the Bulleit at $19.99 (before 11% tax). Yeah, I was surprised it was there among the limited selection.

I remembered my fondness of Bulleit at Talbot's - maybe it tasted good because of the company I was keeping. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I grabbed a bottle and am enjoying a sip right now.

Bobby and I have the same impression of this bourbon. A good bourbon and a good value. It does have a very good, rich nose. It does have less body than the nose would indicate, but the taste is not disappointing. Medium-bodied, easy to drink. I think it would be a step above other easy drinkers like AAA 10 yo.

P.S. When I come to L'ville tomorrow, Bobby, I will try to remember to bring the Bulleit, in case we hook up in the next few days. I know it's not like the last bourbon I brought for you to sample (Sam's ORVW barrel proof!), but, hey, it's free booze! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

bobbyc
07-29-2003, 19:24
P.S. When I come to L'ville tomorrow, Bobby, I will try to remember to bring the Bulleit, in case we hook up in the next few days. I know it's not like the last bourbon I brought for you to sample (Sam's ORVW barrel proof!), but, hey, it's free booze!


No problem! Things like Bulleit help keep it all in prespective! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

CL
07-29-2003, 19:31
Things like Bulleit help keep it all in perspective!



Amen. Too bad that logic doesn't work with my wonderful wife and.. oh, never mind. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

MurphyDawg
07-30-2003, 00:06
amazingly, I always figured it was like bobby said, like what you load a gun with.


TomC

Buckky
07-30-2003, 08:53
Bobby...thanks for your accurate info on the brand history of Bulleit. I bought a bottle last night for $17.99 and noticed that it says Lawrenceburg on it. If Diageo is their marketing arm, where is this bourbon actually being made...being new to this site I am not sure which former distillery Diageo now owns. As a side note...it must be a real pleasure to meet the very man who's name is on the bottle...

bobbyc
07-30-2003, 19:47
I will have to dig into this a little deeper, The Lawrenceburg connection could be the holdover from Seagrams. I have seen where Diageo is bottling Dickel in Ind. And Seagrams also owned a plant there. Supposedly Kirin( Spelling) of Japan is who bought Seagrams. Tom Bulleit is a very personable individual, as much so as any of the Bourbon folk we have met. He has family ties to a lot of folks in Bardstown. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jbutler
07-30-2003, 21:52
Two ounces of GTS, cut with .5 oz of water http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Tabasco is child's play for me, but straight Stagg? I dunno man.

CL
08-01-2003, 15:13
I stopped by Furlongs in L'ville this past Wednesday night for dinner. Amy was the bartender; she's not as generous with the pours as Shelley was last week (though, the pours were just fine). Even so, a couple drinks of 20 yo Pappy finished off their bottle.

The manager was hanging around the bar. I told him that my sister and I would be back the next night (Thursday) for dinner. I asked if he could get more Pappy by then. He said he would.

When my sister and I went back the next night, the manager met me at the door and apologized. His distributor is out of the 20 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif He said the distributor said that they wouldn't have any more for at least a month.

Has anybody else heard of a Pappy 20 yo shortage?

I was impressed with the manager. He followed through even though he had no idea whether I would be back. And then he made a point of apologizing for not having anymore. Great service.

Not all was lost though. Shelley was bartending last night (Thursday) so the pours of ORVW 12 yo were as large as the pours she gave me last week. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

HINT HINT - Thursday night is the time to go! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MarkB
08-01-2003, 17:09
Just finished off some Old Charter 10yo. It's been around for a while and I'd just pull it out now and then... but while each time I suckured it didn't exactly sweep me off my feet I certainly didn't mind it when I had either. All in all-- on a star scale of 1 to 5 (five being best), I'd give it ***.

Most worthy!

Mark
http://jazztrpt.freeservers.com

Paradox
08-01-2003, 18:03
Bakers 7 year 107 proof. I just opened this bottle since my Van Winkle 12 year is just about gone. I really enjoyed that bottle! The Bakers is actually a Beam bourbon I like, along with Bookers. I found it to be sweet yet spicy at the same time, almost 'thick' tasting. It had quite a nice finish. Cheers! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

cornsqueezins
08-01-2003, 21:04
Evan Williams Single Barrel '93 Vintage, followed by a generous pour of Blantons.

I am still UNimpressed with EWSB '93. For a single barrel it is just too plain.

But Blantons...http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif...now that is some fine bourbon. I wasn't overly impressed when I first opened this bottle but it has really proven to be exquisite.

Here's to the first single barrel of them all! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

-Troy

robbyvirus
08-02-2003, 04:39
Weller Centennial. I like this bourbon a lot. But then, I seem to like all the Wellers (at least the 12 and 19 yo's).

Barrel_Proof
08-02-2003, 10:10
I'm taking notes! Thursday it is!

Black85L98
08-02-2003, 19:53
Saturday night and it's JB Black for me. Not a big JB fan but tonight it is just what I wanted. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

CL
08-03-2003, 17:31
Are you ready? A Saturday night in L'ville, KY. But, guess what? I didn't go to Furlongs. I met one of my uncles and my aunt at Harper's on Hurstbourne. Harper's has a great bourbon selection, but their pours are skimpy. They were about half of what I got at Furlongs with the less generous bartender and about 1/3 of what I got with the generous bartender.

While at Harper's, I gave WT KS it's final chance to make an impression on me. It failed. Or maybe, I failed. It is definitely a WT bottling, but, as I've said here before, WT doesn't turn me on except for RB.

But, this discovery doesn't bother me. I have plenty of other great bourbons to keep me happy. I could exist on BT products alone.

OneCubeOnly
08-03-2003, 19:12
I gave WT KS it's final chance to make an impression on me. It failed. Or maybe, I failed.



Don't feel bad--I've always found Wild Turkey products to fall short.



I could exist on BT products alone.



Amen to that, but only as long as the Van Winkle line is included! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

CL
08-04-2003, 19:11
Old Forrester 86. I'll be damned if this doesn't taste great here in L'ville. I may have to stop buying the 100 proof in NC that seems to have gone down hill and buy me a 1.75L of the 86 proof here in KY.

I stopped by a local bar in St. Matthew's tonight - Maiers at the intersection of Breckenridge and Shelbyville Road. Friendly, local crowd, all guys watching Monday Night Football. Really good wings, dirt cheap - as large as I've seen them - 20 for $7. Great deal and a good sauce.

They had a better than average selection of bourbon for a beer joint. I took the OF 86.

While I was there, a local bought a round. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif And the bartender brought out a t-shirt for everyone - I picked Wild Turkey over JD. Ironic, how I am not a huge WT fan, but, I was grateful all the same and bumped up the tip accordingly.

A good start to the evening.

robbyvirus
08-05-2003, 01:54
Hirsch rye. I picked this up a couple of weeks ago, and I'm enjoying it. From what I've gleaned off of these boards, it's the same stuff as the Van Winkle Rye, and it does taste very very similar to the Van Winkle Family Reserve. It's good, but because I can find the Family Reserve around here for $10 cheaper, I think I'll stick to that in the future.

CL
08-05-2003, 16:19
I ate dinner AGAIN at Furlongs on Sunday night. After my skimpy bourbon experience at Harper's on Saturday night, I decided to go back to Furlongs on Sunday night.

What can I say? This place is great, bourbon-wise and food-wise. Amy was the bartender; her pours, while less than Shelley's on Thursday nights, are still very good and are much better than average. It's getting scary. They remember my drinks and my salad dressing choices.

Over my last two visits, I finished off their Ezra Brooks SB 15 yo. Honestly, folks, I am not getting sh*t faced here. I "just" get two drinks. The bottles were low anyway and I happened to be the lucky soul http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif who cleaned them out of Pappy 20 yo, ORVW 12 yo, and EBSB 15 yo over the last couple weeks.

You might wonder why I wasn't eating dinner at the homes of my many relatives in L'ville. Well, I had plenty of offers, but I explained that I wanted to leave my Dad's nursing home when I felt ready (I didn't want to be rushed to make it to a relative's home on time) and that I needed a good meal with great service (ok, and bourbon) to relax and to pamper myself. Fortunately, my relatives understood completely and did not lay a guilt trip on me.

Dave_in_Canada
08-05-2003, 16:23
Sounds like you've been cutting a swath through their supply. Thank goodness it's the Furlongs in Louisville.... I'm relieved since I'm heading to their Lexington location in a couple of weeks and I want SOMETHING left on their top shelf!!

CL
08-05-2003, 16:35
Enjoy yourself, Dave. The food is really good. I tried many things, but my favorite, so far, was the stuffed catfish. I mostly stuck to the specials, but I had the stuffed catfish twice off the regular menu.

I also tried the appetizer platter. It was very good as well.

Let us know how the pours are. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

jeff
08-05-2003, 17:09
ORVW 10yo 107 proof. This is hitting the spot after an incredibly crazy day at the office. I'll be back later, as I think this bourbon is just screeming for a macanudo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

WEG3
08-05-2003, 20:36
To night it's to help along an open bottle of EB Single barrel #82 15year , a good pour of Polar Golden Ginger Ale and 3 cubes all in a middium size old drinking glass....
Aaaahhhhhh! Life is good ... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif
Bill G.

Paradox
08-06-2003, 16:30
The pic says it all. Just opened the bottle my wife brought home for me today, I figured hey, B-day in 2 days, why not have Birthday bourbon! I cannot wait for the new 2003 release in a month... Let's hope they do just as good with it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bluesbassdad
08-06-2003, 16:51
You really know how to live -- OFBB in the foreground (love that wide-angle look), with a supporting cast of Stagg, Hirsch and WT12. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

BTW, that's a nice photographic touch with the alignment of the glass and the Stagg, too.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
08-06-2003, 16:55
WT Russell's Reserve.

I keep telling myself that I don't really like RR all that much. So why can't I get enough, once I start drinking it?

I did finally do a side-by-side with WT 101 recently. The RR is defintely smoother, yet richer in flavor, although it's hard to justify a price almost double that of WT 101 (considering the recurring sale price of $12.99 on WT 101 at Rite-Aid).

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
08-06-2003, 17:13
You must be in whiskey heaven, Dave. I have to pay $19 for WT101.

Tim

bluesbassdad
08-06-2003, 17:20
I think I've seen it for even more than $19 in some of our snootier liquor outlets, such as Morey's Liquor, down in Belmont Shore, close to the ocean. Hi-Time in Costa Mesa has it for $18.

However, I'll stick with Rite-Aid as long as they keep running that periodic special of $12.99. (I always pick up a bottle when the special runs, whether I need it or not.) Failing that, Trader Joe's has had it for $13.99 for quite some time now. However, they are notorious for ceasing to stock a product without warning whenever their low-priced source peters out.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
08-06-2003, 17:22
Thanks Dave for the compliment. I wasn't even trying to line them up, I take most of my shots now with my cell phone for simplicity. It takes poor indoor shots, but it works haha. I must admit, I have finished alot of good bourbon's in the past month; Blantons, Hirsch 16, IW Harper 15, VW 12, Bakers. The Hirsch 20, Stagg, and WT 12 I don't drink from every night so they have been there for a while. Wonder how long this gem will last! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jeff
08-06-2003, 18:16
Ten High straight up http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Really livin' on the edge tonight, trying to clear out some space for the upcomming Stagg and BB releases. Check out my tasting notes here. (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=Tasting&Number=18732&p age=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) You won't be dissappointed http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Barrel_Proof
08-06-2003, 18:29
2002 B'Day Bourbon on two rocks. I do like this bourbon. Yum yum.

jeff
08-06-2003, 19:28
Well, after a couple drinks of Ten High, I was yearning for something more. Armed with a Flor De Olivia robusto I headed out the back door with a hearty pour of Weller 19yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. Wow, what a difference! Lots of vanilla and caramel flavor with a long and enjoyable finish. Better buy all of this you can folks, as it won't be around long.

MurphyDawg
08-06-2003, 20:45
Yummy stuff BP. I am having Four Roses Yellow Label tonight, a nice pleasant little pour, and a decent value price. I think I will pick up more come festival time.

TomC

MurphyDawg
08-06-2003, 20:47
Yep its between $16.50 & $18.50 for WT 101 around here (but still worth it IMHO) and like $22.50 for Russell's Reserve, it makes the decision a whole lot easier!


LOL
TomC

bobbyc
08-06-2003, 21:08
I think RR is a few more dollars than that, They also run WT101 for 13 or so from time to time. Can't have too much of either. A little of the Jefferson's I got Last week . I still like this one. This is not Heaven Hill whiskey and if it did come from there, they bought it and did not distil it. Say it came from Barton , Four Roses, BT or even BF and I couldn't argue. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/soapbox.gif

robbyvirus
08-07-2003, 00:30
I'm drinking Weller 12 y.o tonite. This is definitely one of the best values in bourbon...smooth and delicious, with lots of carmel taste, and way less expensive than many other bourbons that I don't enjoy quite as consistently.

bluesbassdad
08-07-2003, 16:46
I'd love to play "Guess What I'm Drinking Right Now", with a tip of the hat to a departed member, but I just don't have the chops in the descriptive arena to make it a fair game. Besides, it's a bottling that most of you probably haven't had a chance to try, although you know its relatives (hint) well.

How about we go halvesies? I'll do my best to describe it, and then I'll give you the answer.

It's a special bottling.

At almost two decades, it's older than most (possibly all but one) that bear this lable.

It is totally lacking in any harshness of nose, palate, or finish.

It has a distinctly oily mouth feel that is similar to others of this name, but much more pronounced, if memory serves me correctly.

The nose is distinctly fruity with a modest char/caramel background, the palate leans more to the char/caramel, and then turns to oil of walnut or maybe almond. The oily, nutty taste carries into the finish, accompanied by blackberries, and then it turns dry, demanding another taste in short order.

The price was $75 plus shipping from a prestigious East Coast address.

This is the one I had decided to buy instead of a somewhat similar bottling from Sam's -- until Sam's called my house in my absence, and my wife unknowingly turned what had been an inquiry into a firm order. Now I have both -- and a wife who knows more than I cared to have her know about how I spend my allowance. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

It's the 18 year old Van Winkle Family Reserve from Park Avenue Liquor. If there's a better bourbon than this, whether my 20 year Sam's special bottling or either of the two Hirsches, I can't remember how at this moment. To hell with the blindfold and the last cigarette -- I want to expire immediately after a swallow of this magnificent bourbon. (Actually, make that a couple of glasses. A single swallow simply isn't enough to experience all this bourbon has to offer.)

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
08-08-2003, 18:37
I am back home in NC now and have my full arsenal at my disposal. During my recent weeks in KY, I became quite fond of ORVW 12 yo so it was my happy hour pour today. Then I topped dinner off with the ORVW from Woodside Partners - I hadn't had this in a while and wanted to tap into it again.

I only had a shot of each (half my normal pour), so I am about to go back to the liquor cabinet and pick out my nightcap. I just picked up my first bottle of Ezra Brooks SB 15 yo last week, so I think will be my choice.

Cheers. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

P.S. I finally ordered 2 bottles of Hirsch 16 yo today. I am glad its shipment got delayed (and the sale extended) because I was too preoccupied in the past few weeks to remember to place an order.

OneCubeOnly
08-09-2003, 14:13
This afternoon, it's been my good ol' standby/everyday pour, Buffalo Trace.

Except I violated my own rule and put more ice than normal. I'm so ashamed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

bluesbassdad
08-09-2003, 16:42
Blanton's (from a mini) and what may prove to be the last of my Rock Hill Farms (100 proof), side by side.

Words fail me. The Blanton's starts out with a nose of heavily buttered biscuits, lightly browned on the bottom. Rock Hill Farms is Mom's apple pie, with a hint of cinnamon and light on the sugar, so the tartness of the apples comes through.

On the palate the Blanton's is more of the same, but it never quite tastes like bourbon to me. (Someone hereabouts once said, "If you don't like Blanton's, then you don't like bourbon." I disagree.) It's so amazingly smooth that it's tempting to escalate from careful sips to rapid, multiple swallows -- the same way I drink Eye of the Hawk Select Ale (http://www.mendobrew.com/brews/eye_hawk.html). Is that any way for a bourbon to be?

In contrast the Rock Hill Farms tickles, tingles and tantalizes. Yes, this is bourbon, with a family resemblance to other Buffalo Trace products. (It's time for me to review the old posts about the various BT mashbills. Regardless, I think I taste a similarity to Stagg and to Buffalo Trace, but not to Blanton's.)

If I can exercise a little restraint, there's just enough Rock Hill Farms left for one more drink, which I intend to have side-by-side with another BT bottling. Which should I choose?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bobbyc
08-09-2003, 17:12
Stagg?

CL
08-09-2003, 18:19
On the palate the Blanton's is more of the same, but it never quite tastes like bourbon to me. (Someone hereabouts once said, "If you don't like Blanton's, then you don't like bourbon." I disagree.) It's so amazingly smooth that it's tempting to escalate from careful sips to rapid, multiple swallows. Is that any way for a bourbon to be?



I agree with you, Dave. I think Blanton's needs more flavor. It just doesn't do anything for me, particularly at $45 a bottle.

I bought a bottle a couple months ago to settle once and for all whether I can learn to appreciate it. I never did and the bottle is still half full. If I make it to the festival, it will be one of my contributions to the gazebo gatherings.

OneCubeOnly
08-09-2003, 19:47
It's so amazingly smooth that it's tempting to escalate from careful sips to rapid, multiple swallows. Is that any way for a bourbon to be?



Gosh, now after your comments it makes me want to go re-explore Blanton's. I'm almost wondering if maybe the "leave them wanting more" phenomenon that I described in my tasting notes is because I'm *WANTING* more fulfillment!? Hmmm...that's a toughie! Blanton's, at least to my palate, seems to satisfy, but you REALLY crave more...maybe that's why you say you tend to turn to the gulping-type of drinking!?

Can a bourbon be too smooth!? Must it have a certain bite that satisfies and makes you not want to gulp more?

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

MurphyDawg
08-09-2003, 21:33
Blanton's, at least to my palate, seems to satisfy, but you REALLY crave more...




Not because you dont feel fufilled, because it is just that damn good!!



Yummy
TomC

CL
08-09-2003, 21:58
Not because you dont feel fufilled, because it is just that damn good!!



That's the way I am feeling with my Weller 12 yo tonight. I can't get enough, but the watchful eye of my sweetie is upon me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

BTW, a neighbor came over to have a nightcap. He chose Blanton's on the rocks. I said, "Help yourself. It's always good to share great bourbon with those who appreciate it, especially when it is a bourbon I don't particularly fancy." http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

robbyvirus
08-10-2003, 02:20
Tonight I'm having a nip of Kentucky Vintage. I bought this two months ago when I passed through Kentucky...I've never seen it out here in California. I think it's a pretty good bourbon. It's not too complex, but it has a richer flavor than most in its price range. Kinda oaky, but then I like that.

Buckky
08-10-2003, 08:01
last night it was Buffalo Trace...I love this bourbon. This could easily become my "regular pour" but the distribution Gods have decided that Ohio (a stones throw from Ky) isn't worthy of it. I am two hours from the river and WVA where they also sell it but at an inflated price...a $17+ bottle in Ky becomes a $25+ bottle in WVA and I don't get there very often. Frankly I would rather drink BT than Blanton's...I like Blanton's but at $40+ locally it is a rare buy...(If we can get Blanton's then why not Buffalo Trace???) If given the choice I would rather have Elmer T Lee single barrel...alas it too can only be picked up when going south. As a general rule I would choose BT products over nearly all others...but that is probably stating the obvious, especially when you include the VW's. "In a perfect world Buffalo Trace would be in every bar"

Buckky
08-10-2003, 16:01
Upon reconsideration I must amend and admit that if you offered me a free bottle of Blanton's and a free bottle of Buffalo Trace I would probably reach for Blanton's MOST of the time ....but I must admit my opinion of Blanton's is colored somewhat by my extremely high expectations due to the price and the wonderful packaging/marketing. (Blanton's is now at least $40, sometimes $45 locally...and the entire "riding jockey" is totally cool) After all what does not become a Blanton's probably becomes a Buffalo Trace and Elmer T Lee himself has said that with 250,000 barrels to choose from there is at least a small degree of hit and miss. (Of course with a genius like Elmer the odds of missing that great barrel are greatly reduced.) However I stand behind my assertion that Elmer T Lee single barrel is better...FOR ME...because as Elmer says he chooses a "sweeter" barrel for his namesake and I just happen to like this kind of bourbon...your mileage may vary...(also in KY Elmer T Lee Single Barrel is $23 while Blanton's is $45...you do the math)...in general I like BT products because they are sweeter and more "candy" like on the chart than other bourbons...we all are different in both our current tastes and in our taste evolution. At one time(when much younger) all I drank were Jim Beam products but as I matured I grew away from them....however I think Bookers is still one of the finest products out there...top ten for sure...top five? Gee am I rambling?....as we all know taste is a very ephemeral thing (cool word eh?...look it up, it really applies to bourbon)that is in constantly changing form due to mood,circumstance, budget??, EXPERIENCE etc......did I mention before this rambling rant that I had had a few? (Buffalo Trace of course)

bobbyc
08-10-2003, 17:21
At the moment a little Stagg. No one should be surprized by that, by now. It's been a long afternoon here in Kentucky, My weekend stretches before me ( Monday for me this week is 10am Wednesday) It has been thundering a lot and looks like rain, I'm working on a new hosta bed. Before this Stagg, Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, and before that Eagle Rare Single Barrel. If I have another drink this evening and it isn't more George T. I'm going to hit the Jefferson's , you know, to see if it can hold up. ( I won't be too dissapointed if it doesn't, nothing else does!) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

pepcycle
08-11-2003, 13:25
Today I celebrate two momentous occasions with two great bourbons. OFBB for the obvious reason and Stagg for reaching my goal of losing 35 pounds since March. (Last week I found out I still have ribs) At 187, I'm at my lowest weight since 1977.
Cheers
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CL
08-11-2003, 13:40
Congrats!

Ambernecter
08-11-2003, 15:23
Mr. Ed.
Fantastic news - well done to you sir!
I am somewhat of a health nut and it is distressing to see so many people whose quality of life suffers, just 'cos they shovel too much food away.
I salute you with a Woodford Reserve.
Keep it up!!

Barrel_Proof
08-11-2003, 18:50
A b'day toast to you, Ed! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Speedy_John
08-12-2003, 06:06
Way to go, dude! I'd like to lose about the same number of pounds. How did you do it?

SpeedyJohn

boone
08-12-2003, 09:17
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Happy http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Late Birthday to you!...

Congratulations, on your weight loss goal http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...You should be very proud http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif...with good reason http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Bettye Jo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif....

pepcycle
08-12-2003, 10:21
John
Here's the key to losing the weight and getting the exercise. Ignore the warning signs till your physician tells you that you have to do something drastic or suffer the consequences. The real driver was possibly having to notify Dive Masters of a possible condition and being denied dive privileges. So a controlled carb, low fat diet with daily exercise it is. (Not the Atkins diet) We make choices everyday. I had to change some of those.
Lucky (?) thing I was doing some knee therapy (soccer injury)at the same time I started the diet and took advantage of the gym facility at rehab. (Now, the amazing thing. A lot of this started with a PM thread I had with Bluesbassdad about running out of gas. Its about attitude and choosing how you view events in your life)
"Changes in attitude, Changes in Latitude"
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pepcycle
08-12-2003, 10:45
Thanks for the positive reinforcement.
Mucho Appreciado
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Black85L98
08-15-2003, 21:23
Congrats on the 35lbs good job! That is about what I would like to get rid of.

MurphyDawg
08-15-2003, 23:38
Tonight Eagle Rare 17 year old. The best of the best (including Stagg) in my opinion. I cannot vouch for tomorrow given my current situation, but today turned out to be pretty good and I figure I should celebrate all the good I can when I can, so here is a toast of the best to all my great http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifbourbonic http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif friends.


TomC

bluesbassdad
08-16-2003, 16:05
Elijah Craig 18 y/o -- in honor of our child bride and her lucky husband. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It tastes different than I recall, an occurrence I've almost come to expect, perhaps influenced by the EC 12 I drank a couple of evenings this week. The nose is less woody than I recall, and there's a strong presence of the grassiness that I tasted in my EWSB '92. On the palate I'm getting some of that EC12 medicinal quality (some call it "camphor"), which suggests pine resin or eucalyptus. The grassy flavor returns at the [dry] finish, which reminds me of the "flinty" quality of a Johannesburg Rieling that I drank years ago.

I have yet to try some Manhattan makin's that I bought recently. While I still have the Bardstown Bourbon Society newsletter handy, I think I'll try the recipe that used EC 18. (I'll have to use regular, refrigerator ice, though.)

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
08-16-2003, 18:11
Well, I need to clear out some bottles in my liquor cabinet, so I thought I would start with the Knob Creek. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/puke.gif

Before I met SB.com last summer and rapidly expanded my collection, I used to like KC as a winter drink. Not any more. It justs tastes blech to me now. Guess I'll have to save this bottle for mixing with guests' drinks. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The problem is (and this is a good problem to have), most of my liquor cabinet is stocked with bottles I can't get here in NC, so, for most of my collection, I am not in a hurry to get rid of it. And I can't buy any more EC 12 yo or WT RB, both available here in NC, cuz my wife said no more till I clean out what I already have. What to do? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Guess I will just go to the pantry and pull out that bottle of BT. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jeff
08-16-2003, 21:22
Jefferson's. Trying to get to know this one a little better. What is the chance that this bourbon came from Buffalo Trace? Has that classic "earthiness" that I taste in most BT bourbons, but just a little hotter. I think I'll try this one on the rocks tomorrow to see if it mellows out any.

bobbyc
08-16-2003, 21:30
I know every one gets different mileage. I'm going on memory here because tonite I have a bit of the EC18 with American Still Life. I thought the bottle I have is fairly smooth with a cube or 2. At any rate I enjoyed finding Jefferson's because I had no Idea it would come out and it's something to go along side of OFBB, Stagg, And FRSB when we do get it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

robbyvirus
08-17-2003, 01:30
Ancient Ancient Age. I bought this bottle when I went back east in June. You can't get this stuff out here in California, as far as I know. When I first tried it, I didn't like it at all...it tasted weak and watery, with an aftertaste of dried grass. I set it aside for awhile, but ventured back tonight to see if my initial impressions held up. Fortunately, they don't...this tastes pretty good tonight...smooth, kinda carmel-y taste. It still gives me that hint of grass flavor, but it tastes good this time. Nice!

Black85L98
08-17-2003, 20:16
EC 12 YO

CL
08-17-2003, 20:42
AAA varies with my mood. It is just like you described. Too weak if you want something strong, but if you are in a mellow mood, it really hits the spot!

jeff
08-18-2003, 20:08
ORVW 12yo rye http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I love this stuff, but it's sort of a bitter-sweet sentiment, as I may never own another bottle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Dave_in_Canada
08-18-2003, 20:35
Did a taste comparison tonight of ORVW 10yr (90proof) and 15ry (107). Enjoyed both very much and even managed to burn out my nose buds. Delighted in finally identifying what I like most about the 15yr. In two words? chocolate brownies. Let my taste buds relax for an hour and finished off with VW 12 year old. Smooth as silk. That's the bourbon that'll get my wife hooked. Better not let her have any!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Dave

Dave_in_Canada
08-18-2003, 20:37
Jeff, tell me this isn't so. It's on my "TO GET" list for nex t week. No longer available in LEX? BOO HOOOOOO! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

bobbyc
08-18-2003, 21:09
ORVW 12yo rye http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I love this stuff, but it's sort of a bitter-sweet sentiment, as I may never own another bottle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif


Surely you must know someone with a few cases Bunkered away! ( It's not me) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

robbyvirus
08-19-2003, 00:42
ORVW 12yo rye http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I love this stuff, but it's sort of a bitter-sweet sentiment, as I may never own another bottle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Tell me about it! I've got one bottle left, and I'll be nursing it all the way.

jeff
08-19-2003, 05:43
Dave, I ran across this one dusty bottle in a small little liquor shop that I don't usually frequent. I had been searching for months and had all but given up when I stumbled across this one. Good luck in your search, but forget about the Liquor Barn or other large chain stores.

jeff
08-19-2003, 05:45
Surely you must know someone with a few cases Bunkered away



Yeah, maybe we'll find out who our true friends are when they show up with a bottle or two at festival time http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

bluesbassdad
08-19-2003, 15:28
George T. Stagg.

No, it's not a special occasion, although, inexplicably, I saw a squirrel playing in my front yard today -- AFAIK, at least a mile from the nearest nut-bearing tree or semblance of open space. I am looking to finish off a few bottles, and the GTS was down to a drink or two.

I sincerely thank whoever it was who convinced me to start experimenting with adding water. (Chuck C.?) My first splash still left me recoiling from a normal-sized sip. The second splash did the trick, but left me wondering just how much I had lowered the proof. (I plan another post on dealing with that issue.)

For the first time I am detecting notes of tobacco in the nose. Of course, I know from my 20+ years of smoking a pipe that there are many distinctive tobacco odors, from the nose-curling sharpness of perique to the barely discernably fragrance of Maryland. I make the aroma in the current instance to be more like Kentucky burley, which I suppose is only to be expected.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

tommy
08-20-2003, 21:19
Tonight it's Evan Williams Master Distiller's Select. This is my first taste of any Evan Williams variety, and I'm quite pleased.

Tommy

Barrel_Proof
08-20-2003, 21:24
Jug On, Tommy. What do you plan to do with the extra cork?

bobbyc
08-20-2003, 21:35
Jug On, Tommy. What do you plan to do with the extra cork?


Does any one know why it has the extra cork?

Dave_in_Canada
08-20-2003, 21:43
stoneware dries out corks. If you're in and out of the jug alot, the cork will definitely break. HOW'S that for a quick guess?

Barrel_Proof
08-20-2003, 21:55
Burst my bubble, dude--here I thought the extra cork was so that you could record some way cool claymation/corkmation videos and sell them to the National Film Board of Canada, which would, in turn, sell them to PBS--the acknowledged home of claymation/corkmation mania! Mr. Bill rules!

Dave_in_Canada
08-20-2003, 22:07
Man, I could hear your bubble !pop! even way up here. Actually, most of our NFB videos are actually made in France. We don't have electricity in our igloos so it's pretty tough to recharge batteries, and the film keeps snappin' anyhow! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Buckky
08-20-2003, 23:34
Tonight it was Evan Williams Single Barrel...Vintage 1990. I went to my favorite liquor store this evening and they had EWSB in both '92 and '93, but way in the back accumulating dust I saw a '90 that said "buy me". I like this whiskey...it is very easy, yet with more flavor than I associate with Evan Williams. Will soon do a side by side with Elijah Craig 12 to see if there are any big differences.

bluesbassdad
08-20-2003, 23:38
I'll be looking forward to your comments on that comparison.

IMO those two bourbons represent the most under-rated and most over-rated in the Heaven Hill line-up.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Dave_in_Canada
08-20-2003, 23:54
I've been snippin' away at my EWSB90 for about a year now. Never saw anything great about it until I did a blind nose and taste test. I guess I was expecting more... but it's a fine Sunday afternoon drink. Kinda like a good friend in a dog... doesn't ask for anything, but very pleasant none-the-less. EC12 might be a bit of an overpowering partner though.

tommy
08-21-2003, 08:22
Target practice!! On second thought, the neighbors might not like that.

ratcheer
08-21-2003, 16:56
Which one is which, Dave? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Tim

Dave_in_Canada
08-21-2003, 17:13
Don't mean to jump in, but this Dave says http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif to EC12 and http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/horseshit.gif to EWSB. One fellow's humble opinion.
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Paradox
08-21-2003, 18:09
And I'm the opposite... http://forums.eyecravedvd.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif to EWSB and http://forums.eyecravedvd.com/images/smilies/thumbdown.gif to EC 12. Just my opinion as well...

jeff
08-21-2003, 18:17
Dave, you can send me your EWSB and Mark, you can send me your EC12. Now everyone is happy http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Paradox
08-21-2003, 18:31
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif I dont hate EC12 enough to give it away, even though my dad has my bottle right now... I just don't find anything 'special' about it like I do with the EWSB Vintage's.

MurphyDawg
08-21-2003, 21:12
Dont listen to him man!! The 1990 EWSB is a gem,DRINK it man DRINK IT!!


TomC

bluesbassdad
08-21-2003, 23:06
As the old saying goes, "You're a gentleman, a scholar, and a fine judge of good bourbon." http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
08-21-2003, 23:17
EC18 (three oz.), cheap red vermouth (one oz.), Angostura bitters (three dashes) and four ice cubes (Arrowhead water, frozen yesterday).

I am reminded of the pronouncement by the author (David Embury) of my one and only book on mixed drinks, to the effect that eight to one is the ideal ratio of spirits to modifiers in most, if not all, mixed drinks (provided one uses spirits that one would willingly drink straight). In truth, I think this drink would benefit from a slightly smaller proportion of vermouth, which all but dominates the flavor. If I had started with, say, Jim Beam white, I wouldn't be able to taste the bourbon at all.

Next time, I'll try a half ounce of vermouth, which would yield a ratio of six to one.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Dave_in_Canada
08-22-2003, 11:03
Don't forget, I'm talking about the '90. I haven't had the pleasure to try any of the recent bottlings. The '90 is a pleasurable pour for a sunday afternoon, but it doesn't knock my socks off... that's what I need at the end of a hard day at the office!

jeff
08-22-2003, 17:08
Woodford Reserve. I have been a critic of this bourbon in the past. I have enjoyed OF just as much...even slightly more than WR. Well, for the moment I am finding WR quite enjoyable. Seems sweeter to me than before. Interesting that I now find OF100 somewhat hot and dry and now I find WR smooth and sweet. Makes me wonder what's going on at Brown-Foreman.

ratcheer
08-22-2003, 17:15
Jeff, I have always perceived Woodford Reserve as sweet and smooth. Its one of my favorites, for sure. I like OF, too (especially the 100 proof), but I strongly prefer WR.

I'm not sure its worth $30, but on the other hand, I wouldn't want to live without it.

Tim

jeff
08-22-2003, 17:20
In the past WR has tasted, to me, somewhat harsh and dry. OF100 was more full-flavored and smooth. Not to mention, half the price http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Lately OF 100 has seemed hot and harsh, both to me and CL. I don't know what possesed me to buy this bottle of WR tonight, but I'm glad I did. BTW Tim, have you sampled any OF 100 from a new bottle lately? If so, do you feel it has changed any?

CL
08-22-2003, 17:27
NC-bought OF 100 was hot, but I recently had KY-bought OF 86 and it was much better - what I remember OF being.

OneCubeOnly
08-22-2003, 20:52
Tonight it's ORVW 12yo Lot B. I'm still kicking myself for not stocking up last December--Montgomery Co., MD had it for $19.39 and I only bought ONE BOTTLE!! ARRRRRGH! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

MurphyDawg
08-22-2003, 23:13
Tonight I had the last (rather hefty) shot of a bottle of Ezra B that I inherited somehow during last years festival. . . I was sorry to see it good. The good side it that I have friends coming form out of stste tomorrow, and they are bearing a brand new full bottle!


BLEEEE!
TomC

CL
08-22-2003, 23:22
I really like the Ezra B SB. I discovered it during my stay in L'ville in July. Good stuff.

jeff
08-23-2003, 04:03
Last night I saw the "new label" OF 86 proof on the shelf a Liquor Barn. Maybe I'll pick up a bottle and try it again, as there's a better chance of getting a different batch.

Paradox
08-23-2003, 06:28
Yeah, I finished up my bottle a few months back and getting another bottle while in KY this year is without a doubt on my list. Great bourbon and at a not so bad price, at least when I got it...

Paradox
08-23-2003, 06:30
Doh! What an amazing price. I finfished up my first bottle of the 12 year a few weeks back and when I can find another for under $30 again it is a definate re-buy. Hell, all of Julian's whiskies seem to be!

ratcheer
08-23-2003, 06:56
No, not lately. I guess I need to go buy one. But, right now, I have too many bottles of mid-shelf whiskey, having stocked up at the OGD sale, last month.

BTW, I am really enjoying my OGD 86. But, night before last, I had a dram of the 114. There is no comparison. The 114 is sweeter and gives a mouth burst full of flavors. The 86 is relatively one dimensional (but, still great for the price I paid).

Tim

pepcycle
08-23-2003, 11:26
Last night, I went to The Coach House for dinner and it was WR as a cocktail and an after dinner drink. Perhaps it was the Bananas Foster lingering, but I distinctly pick up toasted coconut. BTW, if you ever get a chance to see The Bats, a Lexington group that does rock and country cover tunes, see them. They are very good and have some fun songs as well. Six 40-50ish women with male guitar player and drummer. Great Time!!
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bobbyc
08-23-2003, 16:17
Six 40-50ish women with male guitar player and drummer. Great Time!!




Good God Give the drummer some! Old groupies never die! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Forbes
08-23-2003, 20:34
Nothing fancy tonight - Old Forester (86 proof). I really like this stuff and it's cheap. I believe I paid only $10.50 for the 750ml size bottle.

Todd

robbyvirus
08-24-2003, 00:55
A coincidence! I was drinking some of my bottle of Ezra B. tonite that I picked up in Kentucky in June. Really great stuff...it's one of my favorites...very rich, and lingers long on the palate. Too bad I only picked up one bottle...I can't find this stuff out here in CA.

Black85L98
08-24-2003, 20:45
BTW, I am really enjoying my OGD 86. But, night before last, I had a dram of the 114. There is no comparison. The 114 is sweeter and gives a mouth burst full of flavors. The 86 is relatively one dimensional (but, still great for the price I paid).

Tim



OGD 114 I like it too! Not just heat, yum.

Tonight it's ........ EC12YO

Dave_in_Canada
08-24-2003, 20:51
VW 12 yo. Man, that's good stuff. Lot "B". Was there ever a Lot "A" or a Lot "C"? Seriously. Photos I've seen are always Lot "B". He must have bottled alot of this stuff. Pure heaven.
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Ambernecter
08-25-2003, 02:26
Just landed myself a new job with a large pay rise to boot. I think this calls for a large Stagg - then perhaps one more.
I'm sure this stuff makes some distillers cry and hang their heads in shame, about how piss poor their Bourbon is!!

bobbyc
08-25-2003, 08:20
I'm sure this stuff makes some distillers cry and hang their heads in shame, about how piss poor their Bourbon is!!





That's the truth! Until recently my wife would dodge Frying chicken when she could. I explained to her that half of it was presentation. Says I," The first thing you tell anyone who asks about your Fried Chicken is, " I can Fry a Chicken that would make Colonel Sanders Cry!"" Actually If the Colonel came back he probably would cry, but because some of the KFC's put out a product that doesn't resemble what it used to be.

bluesbassdad
08-25-2003, 15:48
Rebel Yell. (YEEEEEEEHAAAAAA!)

This is not really a bad bourbon. The question may be whether it's representative of bourbon at all. I suppose if someone who had never tasted liqour before wanted to try a sip of bourbon, this is what I might offer them. It definitely tastes enough like bourbon to distinguish it from s-----, and it doesn't taste bad. (I'm having a feeling of deja vu, as though I've written those exact same words before. Shudder....)

This is my second bottle, which I recall cost less than $10 at Trader Joe's. It won't be a priority to rush out and buy another bottle when this one is gone, but I'll probably replace it eventually at that price.

My bottle says it is from Louisville, which, according to someone who knows far more than I about such things, means that it comes from the old Bernheim Distillery, now operated by Heaven Hill. This one, like the various Old Fitzgerald bottlings, definitely does not have the so-called "Heaven Hill taste", according to my palate. I guess a wheat recipe and a different distillery would easily account for that.

Yesterday I tried it in a Manhattan, and it was horrible. All I could taste was Gallo red vermouth and Angostura bitters. I'll definitely cut way back on both if I ever try that again. (Reminds me of the old dry-martini joke, whose punchline is "Not so loud!" -- spoken to the bartender, after he was intructed to say the word "vermouth" after pouring a glass of gin.)

Man, this stuff is easy to drink. I'm startin gto make typis alredy.

At least I had the pressence of mind to deleet the stupi dpoll, "Are You Wishy-Washy?", that I posted under the thread about neck foil.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

tommy
08-25-2003, 17:23
I'm working on a accidentally long pour of Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve. Incidentally, my bottle hails from Louisville.

Tommy

cornsqueezins
08-25-2003, 20:12
Yeah, Dave, I agree.....Rebel Yell is a good starter bourbon for beginners as well as a good tasting, nicely priced drink. I've only bought 2 bottles of this stuff...the first when I was just beginning to seriously drink bourbon and the second after having finished off several high-end bourbons. I wasn't too carried away with the second bottle but even though it can't compare to premium bottlings it is an extremely decent low to mid-shelf buy.

-Troy

cornsqueezins
08-25-2003, 20:26
Blantons!

I don't get it. To me, this bourbon does not epitomize full-flavored bourbons...not even close. It does not have any sort of bite (which I enjoy in certain degrees), does not have much of a lingering finish or possess much depth or complexity.

But I love it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif A good mellow, refined single barrel has won me over.

Strange, but Elmer T. Lee struck me much the same way but I don't much care for it. Blanton's has a twist of something that I seem to find much more appealing than the sweetness of Elmer T. Lee.

-Troy

pepcycle
08-26-2003, 21:37
Tonight, I went for bike ride. (bicycle)Wwhen I got back,I sunk into my leather chair, drank a Diet Sprite and followed it with a pour of Pappy 20 Neat. What a day!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif Now, its out to the deck to look at Mars. Wonder if anyone is looking back. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bluesbassdad
08-27-2003, 16:33
Earlier this afternoon, to help me deal with the anxiety of navigating the options list on the Dell website, I enjoyed a Wild Turkey shotglass of Russell's Reserve, which now tastes good to me once again.

To celebrate completing the order, and to dull the pain of spending the equivalent of several cases of bourbon on yet another household appliance, I reached blindly into my mini-cabinet and came up with... Van Winkle Family Reserve 13 y/o rye. I never cease to marvel at how, well, marvelous this stuff is. What sets it apart, to my taste, is the finish, which starts with peppermint and then fades to a bittersweet caramel, belying the kick that precedes it.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

MurphyDawg
08-27-2003, 17:05
To me, this bourbon does not epitomize full-flavored bourbons




I would tend to agree there. If you want a full flavored bourbon, get something by Wild Turkey (Like Russells Reserve) or Brown Forman (and Old Forester Product) or maybe some Old Grand Dad. Blanton's, to me, epitomizes the smooth, "sophisticated" pour, a true sippin whiskey.



Juct my $0.02
Tom http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gifC

OneCubeOnly
08-27-2003, 17:39
It's Van Winkle Rye 13yo for me also. Just retasting/reconfirming how awesome it is, and to help me decide how much to 'bunker' this weekend. (It's $17.99/750ml this week if I make the trek to Maryland!)

Legally, I'm limited to 4 Liters per trip. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

tommy
08-27-2003, 17:46
I'm starting out with some Fighting Cock that I got for my birthday. I really don't like this bourbon, mostly because of the nostril-hair-singing smell. Maybe a little ice will tame this beast--er--chicken. If not, I may have to break "Eliot Ness" on it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Tommy

tommy
08-27-2003, 17:55
Some laws are meant to be broken!! I've been forced into villainy myself because of the 4 liter rule. Maybe we can get adjacent cells.

tommy

CL
08-27-2003, 18:00
I have to disagree with you on one point, Tom. To me, sipping is for the full flavored bourbons. Because they are so full of flavor, you only need a sip to fully enjoy it.

If a bourbon is very smooth, a sip just won't do. Now you are talking swallows (gulps?), just to get the same flavor as you would from a full flavored bourbon. We all know what that will do to you real quick. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif

MurphyDawg
08-27-2003, 19:32
I would tend to agree. I was using "sippin'" in the context I see on whiskey labels I suppose. The two whiskeys I have seen that I can remember that have the word "sippin'" on the label are Georger Dickel No 12 and Old Ezra 7 year. Both of those whiskeys strike me as rather sweet and smooth, so I guess I have always thought of "sippin whiskeys" as sweet and smooth whiskey (not necessarily as the bold bourbon I would have to actually take small sips of) Blantons, Woodford Reserve, and Van Winkle 10/107 (though more complicated that the others mentioned) qualify as sippin' whiskeys as well using the definition I think of.


TomC

bluesbassdad
08-27-2003, 19:40
I'm getting a vision... The mist is clearing... I see it now.

A car is approaching the state line carrying 24 liters of VWFR 13 y/o rye.

The car is stopping at the state line. A passenger is getting out, unloading 20 liters, and staying behind as the driver continues across the line.

The driver is getting out and unloading four liters. A second passenger is getting out. Now the driver is back in the car, doing a U-turn...

Sorry. The vision is disappearing. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
08-27-2003, 19:43
That's the way it is for me, too. I recently found that I got buzzed faster on Rebel Yell than on Stagg for that very reason.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
08-27-2003, 20:18
I haven't yet heard of anyone liking Fighting Cock. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Tim

OneCubeOnly
08-27-2003, 20:23
A car is approaching the state line carrying 24 liters of VWFR 13 y/o rye.



Dave, you crack me up!!! Too funny!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Actually, I researched this awhile ago and found a loophole (it was either on the ABC website or in the Virginia State Code somewhere...) If you have passengers in the vehicle, each passenger can have 'their own' 4 liters, as long as the receipts and packaging reflect a seperate purchase for each person.

I might just have to recruit a few amigos to make the sojourn with me!

"You see, officer...we ALL just happen to have this insatiable craving for rye whiskey!" http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

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OneCubeOnly
08-27-2003, 20:25
Some laws are meant to be broken!! I've been forced into villainy myself because of the 4 liter rule. Maybe we can get adjacent cells.



Fine by me...but you don't wanna know what I had to do to smuggle this rye into prison!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

CL
08-27-2003, 22:13
Maybe the sipping concept you mention comes from the fact that the whiskeys are smooth enough to drink neat. This would be in contrast to the harsh stuff which requires some Coke to cover up the harshness. (This is despite the fact that JD thinks it is sippin' whiskey. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif )

bluesbassdad
08-28-2003, 00:12
but you don't wanna know what I had to do to smuggle this rye into prison!!!

Consider yourself lucky it wasn't Rock Hill Farms... or Old Forester Birthday Bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
08-28-2003, 05:09
You're not kidding Tim! I know both me and Jim have had horrible experiences with it... NEVER again!

pepcycle
08-28-2003, 10:35
In a related experience, I went to a liquor store in NC and bought a case of liquor for a party. I had to get a One Day Transport Permit that allowed me to tranport this tremendous shipment of spirits within the state. Valid for only 24 hours, I had to ensure my arrival and unloading from my vehicle within the allotted time. The multipart form had a transporter copy, a copy for the store and I'm assuming a copy for the state, to track hardened transporters of boxloads of alcohol. I thought the guy behind the counter was kidding when he told me the rule. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/horseshit.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/horseshit.gif

Paradox
08-28-2003, 10:41
Wow, that's crazy. When me, my wife, Chris and Kristin went to Canada last year we had no idea the law on bringing stuff back into the US. So we said the heck with it, we bought stuff going into Canada and more stuff while leaving Canada as well. In total we had about 12 bottles, maybe a few more. When we came back into the US they didn't ask us anything, not even for licenses or anything. They just checked under the back of his truck with those mirror things and let us go... I think we made out good because I think you're allowed alot less than that...

pepcycle
08-28-2003, 12:25
Maybe it was my flat black '43 sedan with dual exhaust and the name "John Barleycorn" across the trunk that raised suspicion. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

pepcycle
08-28-2003, 12:34
This is what I saw.

kitzg
08-28-2003, 15:48
Blanton's, to me, epitomizes the smooth, "sophisticated" pour, a true sippin whiskey.



I'll come to your side on this. When I think of "harsh and full-bodied" I think of the kind of bourbon that might make you cough, pound your chest, and some would then proclaim "now THAT'S a whiskey" -- cowboy movies style. Maybe that is why Turkey is not my favorite -- it is what some of you are calling "full bodied" and to me is just a bit rough.

Blantons and Rock Hill Farms and some others are the type to just sip and enjoy. While I've not poured any for awhile I've never found Blanton's to be weak or thin. These two are bourbons I truly love (but don't drink often because of the price!). I'd say they give me a lot of taste without the harshness.

Gillman
08-28-2003, 16:38
This is a very good point, one I wish I had made myself. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

There is a line in a Dickens novel where a young girl says (memory tells me to a character called "Swiveller"), "I never had a taste of beer except once, in a sip". And Swiveller responded, "you can't taste it in a sip!". http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

ratcheer
08-28-2003, 16:54
Hmmm...

I love to sit in a quiet room, reading a good book, sipping WT101 or Rare Breed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Tim

jeff
08-28-2003, 18:42
I'm with you Tim, though I might make it a KS http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. Something about WT bourbon just tastes like a bourbon should to me.

jeff
08-28-2003, 18:51
Started out with a little Jefferson's and have sinced moved to the old standby: Weller 12yo. The more I drink Jefferson's, the more I kind a like it, but in a completely different way from my enjoyment of Weller. Still not a $30 IMHO http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

kitzg
08-29-2003, 08:14
Of course, we all have slightly different tastes. Just think.... If WE all settled on just one or two top shelf or superpremium bourbons the industry would have an even bigger problem http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I prefer Kentucky Spirit over the others from that family.

Hey, it's all pretty good! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

kitzg
08-29-2003, 08:23
Well, we certainly don't stop with one sip http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

And with beer, I must say, sipping just will NOT do.

But with bourbon neat, I can sip... and sip.... and....

brendaj
08-29-2003, 09:48
but you don't wanna know what I had to do to smuggle this rye into prison!!!
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Consider yourself lucky it wasn't Rock Hill Farms... or Old Forester Birthday Bourbon.



or Woodford Reserve...
Ya'll just crack me up... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
Bj

ratcheer
08-29-2003, 16:33
I agree. I am still on my hot summer / cold Bud kick. I usually take down a whole bottle or can in about three or four "swigs". It is so refreshing, that way.

Tim

Buckky
08-29-2003, 17:40
Yesterday I was given a "gift" of whiskey from a man who drinks only gin. Apparently he is not one to miss the price on something...it was a bottle of Kentucky Tavern. Hey, never look a gift horse in the mouth. I sincerely said thanks for thinking of me. Yet this evening as I sampled this libation, I kept looking at the label thinking it might be a blend. It says "straight bourbon whiskey" on the bottle so it can't be a blend but while I solved that mystery, I am still looking for the taste. You get a hint of nose then it leaves....you get a hint of taste and then...where did it go? I can see someone without discipline drinking this on ice or with water real fast. (Someone like me) ...so I switched to the last inch of Ancient Ancient Age 10 Star I had left to clear the shelf. (Please, please, please send some Buffalo Trace or at least AAA 10YEAR to Ohio soon!!!) Compared to the Ky Tavern, this 10 Star is the toast of the ball....I have always thought this a good "drinker" (see preferences from BT above) and am glad we at least have this...I have been to many states that don't. This evening the AAA10Star strikes me as the middle ground between two of its middle shelf mates...touches of the OF sweetness with a good dose of EW dryness.....

ratcheer
08-29-2003, 20:48
For the first time in many months, I have bought and am sipping Elijah Craig 12-yr old. It has a spicier bite than anything else I can think of, without exactly being harsh. Very nice aroma: caramel, maple, and corn.

I still like it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I think I need to hold it for cooler weather, though. (Its still in the 90's, here.)

Tim