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awachatz
11-24-2012, 16:14
Well, had a strange experience at a store out by my parents. Bought 3 bottles of an allocated rye because it was at the state min and I enjoy drinking it. The store owner took my license and credit card. He then proceeded to write down my license information claiming that he is required to track sales on multiple bottle purchases in case my intent was to re-sell the product online, which it is not.

I have never run across this before and find it quite odd. Has anyone else run into this? Is there anything inappropriate that he could do with my info?
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callmeox
11-24-2012, 16:17
I think he was looking for other identifying information from you so that he could buy concert tickets on your credit card.

Flyfish
11-24-2012, 16:33
Well, had a strange experience at a store out by my parents. Bought 3 bottles of an allocated rye because it was at the state min and I enjoy drinking it. The store owner took my license and credit card. He then proceeded to write down my license information claiming that he is required to track sales on multiple bottle purchases in case my intent was to re-sell the product online, which it is not.

I have never run across this before and find it quite odd. Has anyone else run into this? Is there anything inappropriate that he could do with my info?
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How would you sell it online now that Ebay has abandoned their charade of allowing sales of "collectible bottles"? Either he is not up to date or he is up to something fishy.

awachatz
11-24-2012, 16:38
How would you sell it online now that Ebay has abandoned their charade of allowing sales of "collectible bottles"? Either he is not up to date or he is up to something fishy.

It is fishy to me. I would like to report it, but not sure to whom and if it would do any good. Will check my credit card tomorrow and may cancel it just to be safe.

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ebo
11-24-2012, 16:45
Contact the local police station and ask if they know anything about the practice?

Tony
11-24-2012, 17:03
Never heard of such a thing for liquor in Michigan. I know they now have some rules around buying kegs.

Best regards, Tony

squire
11-24-2012, 17:04
Completely out of line, he has other motives. Even if you were to resell it, so what? Once it's yours what you do with it is none of his business.

BFerguson
11-24-2012, 17:52
There is a store that a hit occasional that does something similer, except they scan your license into the POS.

They clearly have it posted that the ID is required for any transaction

B

squire
11-24-2012, 18:00
Call me old fashioned (well, old anyway) but that sort of thing is just too personally intrusive for my tastes. If my local tried something like that a good chunk of his customers would take their trade elsewhere.

Restaurant man
11-24-2012, 22:06
So assuming that they knew exactly what you bought and found those same bottles online, how would they know they were YOUR bottles?

LongBeachScott
11-24-2012, 22:55
So assuming that they knew exactly what you bought and found those same bottles online, how would they know they were YOUR bottles?

For that matter, how would they expect to know your eBay account name?

I would call the police and let them know about it. Also, call the manager. He should be able to tell you if they require this and why. If they don't, he will know he has a problem.

LostBottle
11-25-2012, 10:16
Call the owner and see if this is an actual policy. If it is, online reviews should reflect your feelings. If not, you made the owner aware of a sketchy employee.

awachatz
11-25-2012, 10:46
Call the owner and see if this is an actual policy. If it is, online reviews should reflect your feelings. If not, you made the owner aware of a sketchy employee.

It was the store owner that I was dealing with. Well if I run into any issues with someone stealing my info, I will direct the credit card companies and/or authorities to this establishment as a possible source of the issue.

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squire
11-25-2012, 11:31
Why are the authorities requiring this owner to treat three bottles as a multi bottle purchase? One has to wonder what he's been up to in the past.

awachatz
11-25-2012, 11:53
I just called police dispatch and reported the store taking down my information. I have had my credit card number stolen several times over the past couple years and don't want to take the chance this guy is doing something inappropriate with my info. I am suppose to get a call from an officer to discuss.

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awachatz
11-25-2012, 11:55
Why are the authorities requiring this owner to treat three bottles as a multi bottle purchase? One has to wonder what he's been up to in the past.

I don't think there is any law in that area that requires it. I think this is something the store owner is doing on his own.

If the guy wanted to he could just limit the purchase quantity to one per customer. He had no objections to taking my money and letting me buy 3 bottles. It is way too fishy.

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Special Reserve
11-25-2012, 12:33
Tony,

Was this in MI?

I've purchased 3 or more bottles of the same item several times in MI including just recently. I've never had that experience.

Will

awachatz
11-25-2012, 12:36
Will,

Yeah this was in Michigan. I have only shopped at the store twice. The first time I bought one bottle, a month or two ago. The store has some older stuff on the shelves, but I won't be shopping there again.

Special Reserve
11-25-2012, 13:40
If they have some good stuff, pay cash.

awachatz
11-25-2012, 13:46
If they have some good stuff, pay cash.

Method of payment wasn't the issue. This guy is paranoid about people flipping product.

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awachatz
11-25-2012, 14:06
Just spoke to the officer. They are going to check out the store and let me know.

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Special Reserve
11-25-2012, 14:34
Method of payment wasn't the issue. This guy is paranoid about people flipping product.

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Well the guy is a jackass. I usually don't like doing business with jackasses but I won't hurt myself to avoid doing business with a jackass.

If you get there often just buy two of each from him until you got what you want.

There is a store on Middlebelt by Pontiac Trail that had some PVW a year ago but would sell to me as I wasn't one of his wine customers. He complained about people flipping on eBay so he only sold to those he knew.

What he didn't know was that I took 6 or 7 bottles of OCPR SS out of his store a few years back when the moved a couple of doors down the street. The kid behind the counter didn't know the price and it wasn't in the book so he charged me the price for the basic Old Charter.

He was happy to make the sale and so was I.

awachatz
11-25-2012, 14:46
Will,

I agree with your assessment of this guy. I am not the only one on this board that has had a run in with him, but others had issues such as pricing and mismarking.

Personally, I don't want to give him another dime. I can do without his booze. Nothing that I can't live without.

I know the store you speak of on the OCPR. He won't sell any PVW to anyone that I know either.

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OscarV
11-25-2012, 15:07
You should also contact the Liquor Control Commission, if he hears from them then he'll get a good scare.

silverfish
11-25-2012, 17:15
I'd be curious to know what would have happened if you didn't have a driver's license.

BAO
11-25-2012, 18:17
For whatever it's worth, I do know a few of the Binny's in the area will require a name from a driver's license for certain allotted purchases. They only did that to make sure people weren't coming back in two or three hours later to buy something when a new shift of employees took over. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like you're dealing with that situation here...

wripvanwrinkle
11-26-2012, 12:48
Tony, is this store on north Gratiot?

awachatz
11-26-2012, 14:18
Tony, is this store on north Gratiot?

Yes sir. How did you know?

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wripvanwrinkle
11-29-2012, 08:13
A while ago, my dad picked a Woodford Reserve Master’s Collection seasoned oak off of the shelf from that store. When he brought it to the register the guy at the counter saw it and said that it should not have been on the floor. He put it behind the counter and brought out a maple finish.

Recently, I stopped by there. Seeing the older bottles (and the associated pricing), I wondered what else they had in the back. Giving them some grief, I asked if they were trying to run a museum or a museum gift shop. He justified the pricing by pointing to eBay.

He then went on to describe the major issues with bottle flipping and told me he had been instructed by the distributor to track all customers who had purchased allocated inventory. I found that odd. I've never met a distributor that cared.

Old Lamplighter
11-29-2012, 08:34
How long before Binny's & other large retailers issue a card like Kroger so we can take advantage of all the 'specials'? In turn, all the while tracking & recording our purchases & purchasing habits. So, recording DLs or other forms ID doesn't shock me in the least here

jakeox
11-29-2012, 08:42
How long before Binny's & other large retailers issue a card like Kroger so we can take advantage of all the 'specials'? In turn, all the while tracking & recording our purchases & purchasing habits. So, recording DLs or other forms ID doesn't shock me in the least here

Binny's has a card already -- I don't buy a ton there so I don't know how useful it is for whiskey, as it sounds more focused on rewarding wine customers.

Josh
11-29-2012, 10:45
I know that Premier in Western NY also has a card program and has for many years.

cowdery
11-29-2012, 14:42
He then went on to describe the major issues with bottle flipping and told me he had been instructed by the distributor to track all customers who had purchased allocated inventory. I found that odd. I've never met a distributor that cared.

Agreed. That's almost certainly a lie. Distributors don't care. It just sounds like somebody you shouldn't be doing business with. Bad store owner, bad.

silverfish
11-29-2012, 21:15
I know that Premier in Western NY also has a card program and has for many years.

And it works too - for every bottle of Kessler I buy, I get a
free 4 pack of Champale!

(Seriously - nothing to see here in WNY. Move along everybody...)

ILLfarmboy
12-02-2012, 23:02
Sounds like sour grapes......and what the owner thinks might be a way to frighten his costumers into not flipping a bottle.

Sort of like some jackwagon who won't sell you a steak if you're gonna feed it to your dog.