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cowdery
08-12-2003, 09:46
Paul Pacult has a new book coming about about Jim Beam. He'll be at the Bourbon Festival. I haven't seen the book and all I know about it is in the sample pages on Amazon but I already have a quibble...with the dust jacket. Several times in the dust jacket copy they describe Jim Beam as a "family business." Unfortunately, it hasn't been a family business of the Beam family since they sold it in the 1940s. After that for about 20 years it was a "family business," but the family was the Blum family. Thereafter and ever since it has been as corporate as corporate gets, as part of what is now Fortune Brands.

Of course, I'm mainly just jealous. Why can't I get one of those corporate front gigs? I could use the money.

boone
08-15-2003, 10:12
I've got it...When I got home from work last night, the book was sitting on my desk...I told Pat, that you said it was available, (in your post)...He went to Barnes and Noble a picked it up... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif A very good surprise to come home to http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

A nice addition to my collection...Although, it's gonna be awhile before I have time to sit down and read it...

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Bettye Jo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bluesbassdad
08-15-2003, 12:42
Bettye Jo,

Thanks so much for the photo. The cover design is simply stunning. The photograph makes me feel as though I'm actually there, and the arrangement of the text perfectly complements the interplay of shadow and light.

However, ya know what they say about judging a book...

I've taken exception to other writings by the author in the past. I will be eagerly awaiting the opinion of you and others as to whether it's worth my long-ago hard-earned money.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

boone
08-16-2003, 08:59
Dave,

I read a little of the book, during my supper break, last night...Skimmin here and there...I found this one section...page 52...Jacob Beam's deep but light and savory secret...I just pushed back in my chair...just a grinnin and shakin my head...The secret? Jacob, being of German descent, enthusiatically relished http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif BEER http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif!!!!... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Ohhhhhhhhhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhhh http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

Most of ya know, that I have never hid the fact, that I drink BEER...and that I only drink Bourbon on special occasions...

I'm still http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif smilin http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif thinkin about him... I wish there were pictures so I could see his face...

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BTW: Today, is a special ocassion...Break out the bottle of Elijah Craig 18 yr http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif...We (me and Pat) celebrate our http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif wedding anniversary http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pepcycle
08-16-2003, 10:51
Congratulations on your anniversary. I toast you with the '91 EWSB in an EWSB glass. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bobbyc
08-16-2003, 21:14
I got my copy, Soon I hope to be autographed by as many of the folks who make up this saga that will do it .
I'm only a few pages into it, I am enjoying it immensely. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

boone
08-17-2003, 09:49
Hey Dave,

Go here American Still Life web page (http://www.american-still-life.com/) to get a look inside the book and read a bit of it...

They have pages you can read in the book (on thier web page, then links to amazon.com)...I have not looked at it very close but if it happens to show page 177...This is my branch of Beams... Beam Generations at Heaven Hill. It tells about Joseph L. Beam (my great-grandfather) and Harry Beam (my grandfather) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I have been reading this book... (not finished yet)...Details later when I finish...

It walks you through the life of Jacob Beam (and goes right down to the present day decendants) and American History...Takes you through the good and bad times...Litterally, walks you through the events in American history and how they (Beams) coped with it and made it through...

Ya know...200+ years is a "long time" in fame, for a family of Distiller's...

The tile of the book is perfect...

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bluesbassdad
08-17-2003, 12:46
Bettye Jo,

Thanks for the reference. I'll take a look.



Ya know...200+ years is a "long time" in fame, for a family of Distiller's...



That reminds me of a quote that I found illuminating -- and this was well before certain disagreements came to the surface during the last several months.

To summarize the difference between Europe and America someone said the following. "Americans think 100 years is a long time. Europeans think 100 miles is a long distance."

Nevertheless, you are quite right. In our Country, so recently prominent on the world stage, 200+ years of known lineage is, perhaps, unsurpassed, especially when tied so intimately to the history of the Country itself every step of the way.

As someone who comes from a family tree with hidden roots, a rotten trunk, and many broken brances, I am envious, but in a completely friendly way.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bobbyc
08-18-2003, 21:05
I'm about half thru this book and all I can say is, It's fantastic. Pages 126 and 127 very clearly Place Carl Beam in the thick of things and his importance to placing Jim Beam on the top of the heap in the worldwide game. American Still Life tells the story well , at every pivotal juncture in the Beam story, Mr. Pacult adds the history of the day, From the end of the Revolution to the Civil War, Prohibition , 2 World Wars. At every step it tells how each generation of Beams played the hand they were dealt and kept the fire under the still going, except for 14 years, there.Another fact is that Jim's brother, Park established a line of Master Distillers, Carl Beam and his sons Baker and David At Jim Beam, and Earl Beam who was with Carl at Jim Beam and left to be Master Distiller at Heaven Hill and son Parker and grandson Craig. The only quibbles I have is a 10 year bust on when the Murphy-Barber distillery began( 1881 as opposed to this book stating 1891) A picture of Booker in a cinder block room full of new barrels that is labeled a Rackhouse. Minor points that do not detract at all from the overall story. I think Sally VanWinkle Campbell's Book , " But Always Fine Bourbon" was a better page turner for me , but only slightly.
BTW Jim Beam at Clermont are on their yearly shut down , Maybe the Bottling lines are back up this week, They are spending what appears to be an enormous amount of money on the physical plant, and have come up with a Dark Forest Green and Brick Red paint motif. They are painting Window Frames, Doors and Silos a very glossy Black. They have cleaned the Distillery building which has precast Exposed aggregate concrete panels on it, resealed the joints and are applying a sealer that really brings out the color of the pea gravel. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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bobbyc
08-18-2003, 21:25
Unfortunately, it hasn't been a family business of the Beam family since they sold it in the 1940s


He addresses this, actually it hasn't been a Beam family business since they quit for Prohibition. When Jim Beam started back he had 3 investors ( Phillip Blum, Homel, Jacobson) who owned it and he and family members worked for them. Schenley tried to buy it and was going to drop Blum, which didn't set well so his son Harry bought the other 2 guys out in 1941, for 1 million. Not a bad return on 10,000 dollars in 7 years!

bluesbassdad
08-18-2003, 22:32
Bobby,

You've sold me. I've a Border's gift certificate that's been scorching my pocket for a while now. Tomorrow I'll probably take a notion to take a little stroll downtown.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bobbyc
08-18-2003, 22:48
If you do you'll be posting Jim Beam products' names in the WAYDN forum! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

cowdery
08-19-2003, 15:45
It's interesting that Beam is investing in the appearance of the facility. I never disliked the assorted pastels that have adorned the buildings for as long as I can remember. It never occurred to me that it could look better. I'll be interested to hear your assessment of it when everything is complete.

bobbyc
08-19-2003, 16:03
They placed it on the Post Office building first, formerly a farm house.Coincidentally Baker was born in that house. I understood that if they like that it would be used elsewhere,It was something to get used to But things proceeded in rapid fashion after that, The truck shop, Boiler room , Fermenting Building etc. I like it, it causes parts of that jumble of buildings to stand distinct from the rest. Like you I liked the Pastels especially when they had all the warehouses in those light blues, reds, and green. It was all a little faded, They could have went 10 more years without painting it. It is really starting to look formal and dignified.Not that it didn't, just more so.

cowdery
08-19-2003, 16:13
I have mixed feelings about it, and this is without having seen it. On the one hand, I don't like the things I like to change. On the other hand, it makes me happy to hear that the Beam company (headquartered here in Chicago) is starting to recognize the value of its Kentucky assets.

On the other other hand, when do you paint your house? When you put it on the market! There's no evidence of that. It's just a rumor I'm starting.

cowdery
08-19-2003, 16:16
In fairness, I should point out that dustjackets are seldom written by the author and are usually written by PR people who haven't even read the book.

bobbyc
08-19-2003, 16:27
I'll let you start that one if you want. I think they are drowning in money. I have witnessed them spending it by the bucketfulls especially in the past 4-5 years. They are even removing Chain link fences and replacing with wrought iron.

Barrel_Proof
08-19-2003, 19:59
They are even removing Chain link fences and replacing with wrought iron.


Few of us would complain about similar improvements to our neighborhoods!

bobbyc
08-19-2003, 20:05
Alright back to the book. Our own Chuck Cowdery here may be too modest to say so, or maybe not. I've never been shy about going out on a limb , so here goes. F. Paul Pacult has Chucks' articles listed as some of his source material.
" Who Invented Bourbon" Malt Advocate Vol 11,No.4 2002, and
" The Beams:America's First Family of Bourbon" Malt Advocate, Vol 10, No. 2 2001
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Barrel_Proof
08-19-2003, 20:10
Chuck be da man!

bobbyc
08-19-2003, 20:39
Few of us would complain about similar improvements to our neighborhoods!



Not a problem! They are dolling that ol' mule up real pretty. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Forbes
08-25-2003, 11:04
Thanks for your opinions on the new book. It sound like a good read. I'll plan to pick up a copy at the festival.

Todd

bobbyc
08-26-2003, 10:45
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cowdery
08-26-2003, 16:52
Do all of the buildings in that picture have the new paint job?

bobbyc
08-26-2003, 19:51
Everything in the foreground does. The red building to the left of the Distillery building hasn't been painted in a while. Of higher up expect nothing to happen to the brick buildings. Also notice the large JIM BEAM logo is gone from the distillery( It was above the large opening) I don't know if we are to expect something new and better( Include the Red Seal) or if they are just being repainted and will go back on after all the sealing is finished. Some of the wrought iron fence is visible by the lagoon.

boone
01-24-2004, 12:01
I have had this picture for awhile. It's Booker sittin' on his front porch. Some of ya know Booker some of ya don't. This is for the folks that don't know Booker Noe.

You can "backtrack" (in time) many, many years ago and compare the pictures. He still looks the same http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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OneCubeOnly
01-24-2004, 20:13
Thanks for the awesome picture Bettye Jo! Gosh, what I wouldn't give to sit in that swing and share bourbon and stories with him!!?! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That looks like one of those moments where there's "no other bourbon in the world!!!"

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kitzg
01-25-2004, 14:15
Great pic. He's "a hoot" to talk to. Sure glad I got to talk with him at the time of the Bourbon Festival about 3 yrs. ago -- an honest, nice Kentucky gentleman.

But have you heard any more about his health, Bettye Jo or Bobby? Last we talked to any one that seemed to know he was not getting any better. Freddy's doing all the PR now.

boone
01-25-2004, 14:31
Booker Noe, is one of the "Greatest of Greats" in the History of Bourbon. He is known, by all, in Nelson County and throughout this Bourbon Industry. He has been ill for awhile and Freddy is the spokesman now. The news that I heard, has not changed.

Aunt Jo, gave this picture to me . It was taken right before they taped the show about, bootleggers and moonshiner's, for the History Channel. She went to visit him, with this photographer guy from Germany. I can't remebmer his name, Awfoweber or something like that.

Bettye Jo

brendaj
01-28-2004, 11:19
Bettye Jo,
That is a very, very cool photo. Thanks.
Was it shot by the people doing the documentary?
Bj

pepcycle
01-28-2004, 13:25
The Answer for yesterday's Final Jeopardy question was:
F. Paul Pacults book, "An American Still Life" portrays the history of the this Kentucky Family that has been in business for 200 years.

The Questions
Champion: What is Proctor and Gamble? (ooh, sorry, NO) He loses
Runner Up: What is Jack Daniels? (No, Let's see if Brenda has the right answer?) He Loses (He's stunned)
Third Place contestant: What is____________?: She wins by default by wagering $0.

Correct Question: Who is the Beam Family?
Who says SB.com is not edumecational?
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brendaj
01-28-2004, 14:59
Ed,


The Answer for yesterday's Final Jeopardy question was:
F. Paul Pacults book, "An American Still Life"



So, the photo appears in Pacult's book? I haven't had a chance to see that yet. Does that mean Pacult was also involved with production of Rumrunners, Bootleggers and Moonshiners that's been running on the History Channel? Or, was he just hanging around at about the same time?

I'm just curious. Bettye Jo said:


It was taken right before they taped the show about, bootleggers and moonshiner's, for the History Channel.


I guess I could put in the video and look, but...I'm just lazy like that... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Bj

pepcycle
01-29-2004, 11:20
I don't know if the picture appears in the book. I just thought it was interesting that the subject was chosen for the final jeopardy question and more amazingly, that I had the answer and three contestants did not.

bluesbassdad
01-31-2004, 14:36
I'd say those of us who procrastinated about buying this book have put it off long enough.

Apparently it's in the cut-out bin at Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471444073/103-5241320-3463028?v=glance&s=books). I placed my order moments ago.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

TNbourbon
01-31-2004, 22:37
I ordered it yesterday.

tlsmothers
02-01-2004, 00:30
Wow! That's cheaper than even I got it as a retailer. I haven't read it yet. I read some dry reviews previously so I haven't been in a rush, but you guys and gals have given me a different feeling so I better get to readin'.

Kauf
02-01-2004, 06:51
Thanks Dave, I just ordered a copy.

Bob Kaufman

COPPERSTILL
02-02-2004, 14:37
I have read the book and I am a raving fan. It gives Carl Beam some much needed credit.
John Ed

boone
02-03-2004, 00:42
For those of ya, that don't know http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif "Who's Who" around here http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Our very own http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif "John Ed's" http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif grandfather, was Carl Beam http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif Master Distiller, Jim Beam http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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camduncan
05-02-2004, 16:45
I remember seeing this book on Amazon.com a few months ago whilst searching for books on Bourbon. Didn't get it at the time, but made a mental note to keep an eye out for it.
Well as luck would have it, I was searching abe.com and a copy turned up in Melbourne Australia for around US $13. Needless to say, it will arrive any day now, so I'm looking forward to finally reading it.

boone
05-02-2004, 17:01
That's great http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You will find my family of Beam's in this book. Jo Ann Beam, my aunt, Joseph L. Beam was my greatgrandfather http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Keep tabs on this forum, our very own "Chuck Cowdery" is about to finish and release his book on bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Click here Chuck Cowdery (http://cowdery.home.netcom.com/page2.html) to learn more about Bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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cowdery
05-03-2004, 00:26
By the way, the same publisher that did the Jim Beam book is also coming out with a Jack Daniel's book. Wiley is a business books publisher and although it's not stated in either case, it's pretty clear both books have a "relationship" with their subject companies.

I hope to have my book out shortly and one thing I can guarantee is genuine independence. It's not being subsidized by anybody, damn it.

camduncan
05-11-2004, 16:30
Well, my book arrived last week.
I am only up to the 2nd chapter, but initial impressions are that this is a great read! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

tlsmothers
05-19-2004, 20:48
I just read about the JD book today. I have the JB book but haven't cracked it, yet. (Still finishing up a history of Elizabeth Cady Stanton I started for Women's History Month.) Good for you, Chuck, for staying strong! Look forward to it!