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Tico
12-09-2012, 16:51
For me it has to be the 2010 PHC 4th edition wheated mashbill 124.2. No ice needed, incredible stuff served neat. The 127.8 is incredible stuff too but the second dump is a touch better.

I don't have a ton of experience with old SW stuff, only had a single pour of VOF once but I suspect these may be at the top of the list for some. Sure, Pappy is great but a bit soft, wish I could try it at cask strength. WLW is always a good pour to but IMO, the PHC tops it. I sure hope HH takes another stab at a cask strength wheater.

what say you?

squire
12-09-2012, 17:01
Very, Very Old Fitzgerald, distilled 1955, bottled 1968.

Clavius
12-09-2012, 17:10
Personally, the 2011 WLW was not only the best wheater but also the best bourbon I've ever had without a doubt. I managed to acquire and subsequently drink two bottles of it. So I consider myself lucky.

awachatz
12-09-2012, 17:17
I would have to say PHC 2010 either proof are my favorites. Second place goes to 2011 WLW. Would like to find a couple more of both for the bunker, but not likely.

hectic1
12-09-2012, 17:24
I had some VVOF that Chuckles brought over that was pretty damn special...not only did it taste exceptional but the history behind these bottles always seems to add something extra. From a current release standpoint I would lean towards a Willett 18yr SB expression followed by either the 2006 WLW or the 2010 PHC. :cool:

TomH
12-09-2012, 17:27
I really wish I could remember the specifics. Tim Sousley was kind enough to share it with some of us....I think it was a VVOF, but I can't remember the year for sure, but I think it was from the 40's.

squire
12-09-2012, 18:23
I remember 1968 because that's when we bought it. We bought some subsequently but usually made do with other brands, VVOF was the most expensive stuff on the shelf.

LostBottle
12-09-2012, 18:32
I never had a bottle of it, but I tried a VVOF that was super tasty, though I wonder if my knowing what it was influenced my judgement. I would also put ORVW 15 up there too.

squire
12-09-2012, 18:52
We didn't have the Pappy line back then but we did have Old Fitzgerald 100 proof BIB, which I expect would show right well today.

T Comp
12-09-2012, 19:33
Isn't this like trying to rate your best orgasm :grin: ? But...If I really have to...I guess the 12 year old '63 -'75 VVOF, in my avatar, which those who came to Binny's a few years back got to share in a few sips of. Maybe next a certain gold veined OWA. There has been some ridiculously tasty wheater bottles at the gazebo table (dusty Makers, Cabin Still) whose specifics somehow escape me now. Then there's the ORVW 15s from the Indy collections and Van Blankle which are serious contenders as best too. Never had the storied KBS PVW23 bottling but that has to be up there.

c2walker
12-09-2012, 19:49
For me it has to be the 2010 PHC 4th edition wheated mashbill 124.2. No ice needed, incredible stuff served neat. The 127.8 is incredible stuff too but the second dump is a touch better.

I've had a few dusty wheaters, but nothing as exquisite as T Comp (anyone wanna share some ORVW 15???). The best wheater I've had is an older (17, 18 year old?) Willett. Amazing stuff. Second on my list is the PHC wheated...in a semi-blind tasting I preferred the 127.8 to the 124.2.

clingman71
12-09-2012, 19:50
Old Weller 107, bottled in '71. Simply incredible bourbon. The only other one in the ballpark is my TPS Willett #14A, best newer whiskey I've had.

MrAtomic
12-09-2012, 20:32
Oldies:

1970's Weller Antique
1950's W.L. Weller Masterpiece

One-Off Bottlings:

2006 William Larue Weller -- my favorite of the bunch, but I've really liked all but the 2005 which was incredibly hot and woody (haven't tried the 2012)
Willett 18 year-old "Cherry Bomb"
TPS Weller Antique #26 (full of dark cherry)

Standard Bottlings

Weller Antique
PVW 15 (haven't had an opportunity to try the BT version)
SB Blend

The 2010 PHC didn't really speak to me. I used to really enjoy Weller 12, and would have put it at the top of my list of standard bottlings, but recent purchases have been very dry and woody. Still, it tastes great when blended with Antique, and the nose is terrific.

Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 08:50
Any thoughts on whether the 2011 WLW is significantly better than the 2012?

boneuphtoner
12-10-2012, 09:28
Any thoughts on whether the 2011 WLW is significantly better than the 2012?

I have no idea, other to say that if 2011 is better than the 2012, it would have to have been one of the best whiskeys of all time. The 2012 WLW is fantastic, and I'd rate it as one of the best wheaters I've ever had. Along with this year's Pappy 15, and JPS 18.

Tico
12-10-2012, 10:24
Any thoughts on whether the 2011 WLW is significantly better than the 2012?
I don't know about significantly but Jason thinks the 11' is better.

http://sourmashmanifesto.com/2012/12/06/review-2012-william-larue-weller/

humchan2k
12-10-2012, 14:12
Shout out to Andrew at Liberty Bar in Seattle, I was a regular there when I lived in Seattle....and one day, Andrew was out of town, but had one of his employees bring me a full 2oz pour of Old Fitzgerald, SW juice, from '65 or so, came in the Venice glass bottle. I sat in my chair and just marvelled at how incredible that whiskey was. I went Billy Joel style and made love to that glass of bourbon. Nothing I've ever had has even come close to being as good as that was.

For current, I gotta go with the PHC '12 or the bottle of PVW 23 I had for my bachelor party in Vegas this year!

HP12
12-10-2012, 14:53
Without a doubt the best and most memorable wheater I've had was a private barrel Willett 17yo followed by another PB Willett 18yo and tagging along for a close third is PHC 4th batch #2.

SMOWK
12-10-2012, 15:30
My favorite was a sample of Van Winkle 23 at barrel proof that Stoopsie let me drink all of one time. I thank you Mr. Stoops!

The Willett 17/18s that have gone around are also tough to beat.

Josh
12-10-2012, 17:16
I had a drink or two out of a bottle of Old Rip 15 y/o at TomH's place that was fan frickin' tastic. And I'm not much of a wheater guy.

SMOWK
12-10-2012, 17:29
I had a drink or two out of a bottle of Old Rip 15 y/o at TomH's place that was fan frickin' tastic. And I'm not much of a wheater guy.

Tom doesn't have just any old rip 15...it's the bomb old rip 15.

Tennessee Dave
12-11-2012, 13:33
2011 William Larue Weller

hectic1
12-11-2012, 16:42
Tom doesn't have just any old rip 15...it's the bomb old rip 15.
That's funny that you mention that bottle Sky...I was rethinking my post here and I would definitely put that bottle we had at the sampler last year in my top 3-4 wheaters! :cool:

TomH
12-11-2012, 17:01
While I'm happy folks appreciate the SB ORVW 15/107 that I have (thanks to a posting here), several of us tasted several ORVW 15's side-by-side and Wade had a Lawrenceburg that I think most of rated the hands down winner.

hectic1
12-11-2012, 17:57
While I'm happy folks appreciate the SB ORVW 15/107 that I have (thanks to a posting here), several of us tasted several ORVW 15's side-by-side and Wade had a Lawrenceburg that I think most of rated the hands down winner. Wade SUCKS! He never offered to share that with me...he kept trying to give me Garrison Brothers! :D

JLH3
12-11-2012, 19:08
I've had 2010, 11 & 12 Lot B, 10/107, 2012 WLW, Weller 12 and one glass of PVW 23. The best I've had is 2011 PVW 20.

WsmataU
12-12-2012, 09:51
Can't believe I'm the first to post this, but Louisville bottled Weller Centennial is at the top of my list. I'd trade all my Parker's 10 for a couple more bottles of Centennial!

gblick
12-15-2012, 00:12
I would probably have to say some ORVW 15's, and some Pappy 15's and dusty OWA's.

Tucker
12-15-2012, 05:31
It might just be nostalgia, but the best bottle of wheated bourbon I can recall drinking was a Weller 19. WLW 2009 and PHC 10 yr wheated twanged my buds the right way, too. The best wheated bourbon I've tasted recently was thiefed from a 20+ year old barrel of Stitzel-Weller in a rackhouse in Nelson county.

Special Reserve
12-15-2012, 05:43
Today the best wheated bourbon I've had is the PHC 10.

When I think about it longer it would be high on the list of all time wheated bourbons that I've had with WLW 117.9 and PVW 15 in the running for top spot.

Old Lamplighter
12-15-2012, 06:04
For me, it has always been (and will always be) a small cache S&W Lot B discovered in my wandering path during my early bourbon days. The light which appeared in my dark path guiding me to those bottles was kindly provided by our late, great friend & adviser Tim Sousley. I will always be forever grateful to Tim for his mentoring & advice when I was a newbie. Although I never met him in person (my great loss), I might very well still be wandering around in the 'whiskey forest' without his kind assistance. So, perhaps there have been - or will be - higher ranked wheaters passing my way or across my palate, but that Lot B will forever remain the best for me.

Rest in Peace Tim and thanks again! :)

ethangsmith
12-15-2012, 12:04
I'll be the odd man out in this thread. Admittedly, I don't like wheated bourbon at all. I've had some Van Winkle, Maker's Mark and a few others, but honestly, I actually enjoy the modern, 3 year old Cabin Still from Heaven Hill. It's nice for those times I want something sweet, not so complex, and simple. And it's uber cheap!

squire
12-15-2012, 12:38
Remind me, how many dollars in a uber?

Tico
12-15-2012, 13:33
Some good stuff so far! Sounds like I need to get a few more samples of VOF and VVOF in my belly!

ethangsmith
12-15-2012, 13:56
Remind me, how many dollars in a uber?

I'm buying the Cabin Still for $8.50 per liter. I'd say that's about as cheap as you're going to get!

squire
12-15-2012, 14:27
Not a best of but a best buy.

ethangsmith
12-15-2012, 14:45
I'm sure you'll all laugh- but for me it's both a best of and best buy. I have no idea why I get so much enjoyment out of that bourbon!

MrAtomic
12-15-2012, 15:02
Can't believe I'm the first to post this, but Louisville bottled Weller Centennial is at the top of my list. I'd trade all my Parker's 10 for a couple more bottles of Centennial!

Oooh,

Good point. Except I'd say any and all Weller Centennial -- Louisville or otherwise -- is towards the top of my list. And to think I used to pass it up because I thought it too expensive.

wmpevans
12-15-2012, 15:31
The best wheated bourbon I've tasted recently was thiefed from a 20+ year old barrel of Stitzel-Weller in a rackhouse in Nelson county.

Doug, I think I remember that. The GBS was doing the "thiefing" if my memory is correct. :lol:

Mighty fine whiskey.

RWBadley
12-15-2012, 16:32
Can't believe I'm the first to post this, but Louisville bottled Weller Centennial is at the top of my list. I'd trade all my Parker's 10 for a couple more bottles of Centennial!

I lucked into a bottle of this and it is amazing juice. I wish any of the recent retail had some of this character.

squire
12-15-2012, 18:23
I've consumed a lot of whisky over the past half century and only a handful of brands were truly memorable. Centennial is memorable.

BourbonJoe
12-15-2012, 19:34
Probably the best wheater I've ever had was a 1958 Very Old Fitzgerald. Stunning.
Joe :usflag:

tigerlam92
12-15-2012, 20:58
Definitely, VVOF for me.