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cowdery
01-22-2013, 09:12
I forget now where I saw somebody post that they heard the launch of Dickel Rye was being delayed. I checked. According to the folks at Dickel, George Dickel Rye has already been distributed nationwide and is readily available in market. So no truth to that rumor.

squire
01-22-2013, 09:22
Here a Dickel, there a Dickel, everywhere a . . . oh well, probably won't make it here anyway.

jakew
01-22-2013, 09:54
I saw it at my local whiskey bar in Brooklyn on Sunday so it's definitely out there.

MyOldKyDram
01-22-2013, 09:57
Been out around here for a bit, too.

ebo
01-22-2013, 10:16
Won't see it in Ohio........ at least not around my area.

tanstaafl2
01-22-2013, 10:58
It is even in Georgia which is usually at least a month behind the places that tend to see things land first.

humchan2k
01-22-2013, 11:07
But is it GOOD is the real question. Anybody? Bueller?

tanstaafl2
01-22-2013, 12:37
But is it GOOD is the real question. Anybody? Bueller?

I have not tried it yet. But a couple of local bartenders whose opinion I value seem to like it. As a result I will probably end up with a bottle of it at some point. For 20 bucks it is not that big a gamble.

IowaJeff
01-22-2013, 12:48
I saw it on the shelves here in Iowa. Usually we are far from the first to get something new.

Ejmharris
01-22-2013, 14:31
It was at TPS last week when I was there.


Mike

cowdery
01-22-2013, 14:46
It's MGPI rye, but the charcoal filtering changes it. Not bad. Worth $20. Somebody posted something about hearing it was delayed, but I can't recall who or where.

T Comp
01-22-2013, 21:07
It's MGPI rye, but the charcoal filtering changes it. Not bad. Worth $20. Somebody posted something about hearing it was delayed, but I can't recall who or where.

$26.99 at Binny's not including all our local taxes. Old Medley 12 year has arrived there too...$49.99 at 86.8 proof. Along with even more new micros or Potemkins (Belle Meade, Brecklen, Waitsburg, Headframe Spirits/Neversweat). Makes that $13.99 Barton BIB I walked out with, taste that much better.

cowdery
01-22-2013, 22:15
Suggest retail is $24.99. I guess Binny's doesn't take suggestions. That's what happens when you've bought out all of the competition.

p_elliott
01-23-2013, 10:31
I saw it on the shelves here in Iowa. Usually we are far from the first to get something new.

We actually got something that is new? Someone at the liquor control division obviously needs to be fired.

squire
01-23-2013, 11:08
Musta slipped through during the Holidays.

sku
01-23-2013, 11:12
It's $20 out here. Here's a review: http://recenteats.blogspot.com/2013/01/dickel-rye.html

Bottom line: Pretty similar to Bulleit, not surprisingly, making me wonder if it's the exact same stuff run through the sugar-maple. In a head to head I actually liked Bulleit better as the Dickel had a strong pickle juice nose and a little too bold mint on the finish. The Bulleit was more balanced.

IowaJeff
01-23-2013, 11:56
We actually got something that is new? Someone at the liquor control division obviously needs to be fired.

Not to worry, if it doesn't sell as well as watermelon whipped cream flavored vodka it will quickly be pulled.

squire
01-23-2013, 12:17
Especially the double casked version, oak really brings out that watermelon rind whang.

Kalessin
01-23-2013, 12:48
It showed up at Martignetti Liquors on Soldiers Field Road in Boston last week; I can't remember the price on the shelf tag.

smokinjoe
01-23-2013, 12:53
Not to worry, if it doesn't sell as well as watermelon whipped cream flavored vodka it will quickly be pulled.

Ah, the watermelon whipped cream flavored vodka...Troyce's favorite!!! :D

Josh
01-23-2013, 12:56
also Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

BourbonJoe
01-23-2013, 12:58
Ah, the watermelon whipped cream flavored vodka...Troyce's favorite!!! :D

You gonna take that Jimmy?
Joe :usflag:

jburlowski
01-23-2013, 16:17
Suggest retail is $24.99. I guess Binny's doesn't take suggestions. That's what happens when you've bought out all of the competition.

$21-22 here in No. KY. At that price, a good value.

VAGentleman
01-27-2013, 16:21
Picked up a bottle of this. Pretty easy drinking but way too minty for me

fivedime
01-27-2013, 18:04
Are they aging this stuff in full-sized barrels, or little (say, 10 or 15 gallon) ones? You'll often get a "green," "pine needle," or "even "minty/wintergreen" note out of whiskeys aged faster in small barrels.

T Comp
01-27-2013, 19:05
Are they aging this stuff in full-sized barrels, or little (say, 10 or 15 gallon) ones? You'll often get a "green," "pine needle," or "even "minty/wintergreen" note out of whiskeys aged faster in small barrels.

It was distilled and barrled at MGPI (formerly known as LDI or Seagram Lawrencburg or Rossville Union) so it was full size barrels. The Rye whiskey distilled there and known under many labels often has minty wintergreen notes...a few, like me, do not care for its mouthwash similarity :bigeyes: :grin: .

Ejmharris
01-27-2013, 19:10
Are they aging this stuff in full-sized barrels, or little (say, 10 or 15 gallon) ones? You'll often get a "green," "pine needle," or "even "minty/wintergreen" note out of whiskeys aged faster in small barrels.

The Prichards Tennessee Rye is done in smaller barrels. Not sure the size but bottle does mention a smaller barrel.


Mike

squire
01-28-2013, 15:31
Has anyone definitively proven whisky ages faster in a smaller cask?

Ejmharris
01-28-2013, 18:08
Seems to be the opinion of BT that small barrels make lousy whiskey. They published something last year that commented on their small barrel experiments.


Mike

squire
01-28-2013, 18:30
I want to say I heard or read a statement attributed to Jim Rutledge along the same lines.

jburlowski
01-29-2013, 16:21
Has anyone definitively proven whisky ages faster in a smaller cask?

Only if you have a time machine.

troyce
01-29-2013, 17:30
You gonna take that Jimmy?
Joe :usflag:

sounds terrible, but just how could someone get a bottle of that stuff?

WAINWRIGHT
01-29-2013, 18:25
I seem to be in the minority on this one,but I find the Dickel to be quite a bit different than the Bulleit and Willett ryes.I don't know if it's the filtering that makes that much of a change in profile,but I find it to be much softer and not just due to the proof.I have found the Dickel to contain a sweeter and lighter fruit,maybe even citric notes as apposed to dill,the mint is still there but subdued in my tastes.The Dickel rye was something I was not expecting much from but figuring price point and over all quality of the whiskey,I think it's a great deal.I guess in the future I need to keep my expectations down regarding new releases,maybe I will never be disappointed again from here on out.:lol:

ErichPryde
02-02-2013, 09:36
I tried a pour of this at a bar the other night, and was relatively impressed, for how young it tastes. Is Dickel distilling this themselves? For me the biggest difference between this and other young ryes was how much softer the rye "evergreen/mint" thing was. It was really different and enjoyable, a sweet, fruity, not quite as minty/spicy rye but really good. I'd keep a bottle on hand and I'd absolutely love to try it at a greater age.

Ejmharris
02-02-2013, 09:47
I tried a pour of this at a bar the other night, and was relatively impressed, for how young it tastes. Is Dickel distilling this themselves? For me the biggest difference between this and other young ryes was how much softer the rye "evergreen/mint" thing was. It was really different and enjoyable, a sweet, fruity, not quite as minty/spicy rye but really good. I'd keep a bottle on hand and I'd absolutely love to try it at a greater age.

Erich, it is LDI rye they sourced and ran through charcoal filtering after barreling.


Mike

squire
02-02-2013, 09:51
Kind of a super Britta treatment.

smokinjoe
02-02-2013, 10:03
After initially having little more than a passing interest in this, I am now starting to get that whiskirexia nervosa induced fidgety twitch to hunt down this bottle, after hearing some of y'alls tasting reports on it... :crazy:

Mrssmokinjoe will be so pleased to hear this...

tanstaafl2
02-02-2013, 10:19
After initially having little more than a passing interest in this, I am now starting to get that whiskirexia nervosa induced fidgety twitch to hunt down this bottle, after hearing some of y'alls tasting reports on it... :crazy:

Mrssmokinjoe will be so pleased to hear this...

I can bring mine to the next GBS event (hopefully this month!) and try to help relieve your symptoms...

smokinjoe
02-02-2013, 10:36
I can bring mine to the next GBS event (hopefully this month!) and try to help relieve your symptoms...

Deal! I am just getting ready to put out the date. I'll double-check to make sure you don't have a conflict! :D

T Comp
02-02-2013, 11:25
After initially having little more than a passing interest in this, I am now starting to get that whiskirexia nervosa induced fidgety twitch to hunt down this bottle, after hearing some of y'alls tasting reports on it... :crazy:

Mrssmokinjoe will be so pleased to hear this...

I know the feeling...just got an email about a store near me that has it at $21.99. But I'm still not going to bite on the JD unaged Rye they have at $39.99.

cowdery
02-02-2013, 15:09
To me, it's interesting that the Dickel Rye never got within 100 miles of Tennessee, except whatever is being sold there. Although, in fairness, the charcoal that they used to filter it through in Plainfield, IL, came from Tennessee.

ethangsmith
02-02-2013, 15:29
Got a bottle of Dickel Rye today. $20. This is the exact flavor profile as the Bulleit Rye but with that nice Dickel charcoal addition. It's less edgy and more refined but still presents itself as a younger very-high-rye-content rye whiskey. I'm going to guess it's 4-6 years old. Very good stuff for the price and a good alternative for those of us that like Bulleit Rye or any of the other MGP/LDI ryes.

squire
02-02-2013, 16:25
That description and price moves me a lot closer to the yes column. If they get this brand in Alabama I might have a shot.

cowdery
02-03-2013, 14:20
I'd be surprised if it's not in Alabama now, as the South is Dickel's heartland.

squire
02-03-2013, 15:48
Wasn't when I checked the Alabama ABC list but that might not have been updated.

Rutherford
02-04-2013, 08:44
Picked up a bottle in Madison last weekend. This is good, similar to Bulleit Rye, and is certainly worth the slightly over $20 it cost me. I have yet to compare it directly against Bulleit Rye.

tmckenzie
02-05-2013, 03:45
I do not think Dickel is too popular in Alabama. Had cousin who ran the one in Camden, Alabama. Said she could hardly give it away.

squire
02-05-2013, 08:35
Those Alabama folks do have an affinity for Jack though.

smknjoe
02-05-2013, 09:56
Jack and Wild Turkey 101.

squire
02-05-2013, 10:16
Yes, there's a lot of "I drink what my Daddy drank" tradition in the Deep South.

cowdery
02-05-2013, 15:37
I know Dickel is primarily sold in the South, perhaps Alabama is the exception.

Back to the rye, it is a good drink. Poured myself some the other night and wasn't really thinking about it when I took the first swig and it was, in fact, a swig. "Wow," thought I, "that's a lot of flavor." More mint, almost wintergreen, than standard MGPI rye. That doesn't mean the charcoal put mint in, but rather that it stripped away something the absence of which made the mint pop.

squire
02-05-2013, 15:48
Well it's on my buy list, just a matter of time.

Shell
02-06-2013, 18:18
I saw Dickel Rye on the shelf in VA last week, and in MI stores for ~2 wks. now.

MauiSon
02-09-2013, 03:13
Sighted in Hawaii, and at the better price, too! I thought about picking it up, but had my heart set on some more discounted EWSB 2002. I guess I'd better go back and spring for a bottle to complete my low-end Dickel set (Dickel 8 & Dickel 12).

HighHorse
02-12-2013, 12:04
Got a bottle of Dickel Rye today. $20. This is the exact flavor profile as the Bulleit Rye but with that nice Dickel charcoal addition. It's less edgy and more refined but still presents itself as a younger very-high-rye-content rye whiskey. I'm going to guess it's 4-6 years old. Very good stuff for the price and a good alternative for those of us that like Bulleit Rye or any of the other MGP/LDI ryes.

Just got it last night when the rep dropped by. They're just now beginning to roll it out in North Florida. My tasting notes are pretty much dead on with yours, Ethan. I posted them last night in the "What Rye Are You Drinking.." thread. The charcoal mellowing gave it away in a blind tasting with Bulleit and Baby Saz. I think it's going to be around $23-$24 here ... a good buy. BTW .. rep tells me their big states are in the south and Alabama on top of the list for what it's worth.

smknjoe
02-12-2013, 12:23
Just because a couple of boys from Alabama and Mississippi don't know any Dickel drinkers it doesn't mean they know the market. After all, we are connoisseurs for the most part.

If I ever get through my bottle of Ritt I'll give this stuff a shot.

squire
02-12-2013, 14:12
When it gets to Tuscaloosa it will be within reach.

PaulO
03-02-2013, 09:51
I saw this a couple of weeks ago. but only recently tried it. I think it is similar to the other ryes from Lawrenceburg such as Bulleit, or Willett. It seems like there is almost no alcohol burn for 90 proof; maybe from maple charcoal filtering. It's also sort of sweet, but not cloying. I like it. I'm glad Dickel bottled this at 90, and aged the whiskey enough.

cowdery
03-02-2013, 14:06
To me, the best thing about it is the price. Just makes me think that all of these independents who take the same whiskey and charge $50 for it have an unsustainable business model.

WAINWRIGHT
03-02-2013, 14:21
To me, the best thing about it is the price. Just makes me think that all of these independents who take the same whiskey and charge $50 for it have an unsustainable business model.
1+ and I couldn't agree more,it's nice to have another product on the shelf in the low $20 under a major label that is this good and widely available.

Gillman
03-28-2013, 18:41
Good product. Definitely shows the LDI pedigree - that "Blue Tide" scent and taste I always get in its ryes - but the maple charcoal treatment post-dumping does add a certain something. Excellent value.

Plus, I can see this would make an excellent Manhattan.

Gary

Josh
03-28-2013, 19:49
Better than a Crimson Tide scent. Ew.

Gillman
03-28-2013, 20:59
Oh yes, like a fresh sea breeze. It's unmistakeable IMO.

Gary

ThomasH
03-28-2013, 21:06
I saw this on a shelf in a store here today. We have #12 and Special barrel reserve too but no #8!

Thomas

Alden
04-06-2013, 12:58
Just picked some up. I like it quite a bit. Nice complexity of flavors and great finish with noticeable toasty oak.

squire
04-06-2013, 13:16
Glad you liked the Dickel.

Alden
04-06-2013, 16:35
Now I'm having it with some Sprite. It's a really nice mixer too.

I've heard that rye is always a good mixer. I don't know why that is, but it seems to be true.

The flavor is there, but subtle, and compliments the lemon/lime sweetness of the soft drink perfectly.

MauiSon
04-17-2013, 17:25
I've had this for a month and a half now, enjoying about 4 pours. Today, I notice it has opened up. Rather than tasting the muted or muffled taste I had ascribed to post-barrel charcoal-filtering, that off-flavor has vanished and I am really enjoying this bottle. I haven't hit it for a couple weeks and it's better now. Sweeter, fruitier and spicier. I guess I'm liking ryes. The flavor was delayed!

Alden
04-17-2013, 18:59
I'm still learning to appreciate and identify the differences between bourbon and rye. This is all new to me. I now have three different ryes, Dickel, WT 81, and JB 80. Now that I have tasted all three I can honestly say they are similar, and I could pretty easily be able to taste a rye next to a bourbon and quickly tell which is which. I like the Dickel best of the three. So far, these are the only ryes I have ever tasted.

To you seasoned professionals this probably sounds very elementary, but to me it's a big deal.

I can now even taste different bourbons and identify which bottle they came from. I could not have done that even three weeks ago.

Kyjd75
04-23-2013, 12:18
I really like rye whisky in general, but the mint in this Dickel Rye is overwhelming to me. Too much I think.