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tanstaafl2
02-09-2013, 21:51
Including Bourdain who seems to have been pouring gas on the fire in recent episodes by constantly bringing it up.

Restaurant man
02-10-2013, 19:41
Including Bourdain who seems to have been pouring gas on the fire in recent episodes by constantly bringing it up.

Bourdain is an idiot, and no one watches his show. Because he is an idiot.

c2walker
02-10-2013, 21:35
Bourdain is an idiot, and no one watches his show. Because he is an idiot.

The problem is that people do watch his show(s). Tons of them. Me included. He's an idiot, but an entertaining one.

tanstaafl2
02-11-2013, 08:13
The problem is that people do watch his show(s). Tons of them. Me included. He's an idiot, but an entertaining one.

Not sure whether he is an idiot or not but certainly his "TV persona" comes off as a big blowhard. Maybe he is that way in real life too but I have no idea. I don't think we would likely have much in common besides travel but I do enjoy watching the show because I have had the good fortune to travel a fair bit myself over the years. Just finished my "bipolar" year last year with trips to Argentina/Antarctica and the Arctic (Iceland/Greenland/Svalbard with a side trip to London and Belgium) and am off to Cuba in a few weeks. One of the things I enjoy when I travel is trying to learn a bit about the local culture through food and drink. I don't have the access he gets of course but it can still be interesting and helpful to watch what he did.

I did think his recent Atlanta show on The Layover was a bit underwhelming. Don't care for that show as much or for his visits to American cities as much as the more "exotic" locals. Not that it matters as it has now runs its course. Remains to be seen whether the upcoming CNN gig will have as much interest for me.

Yeti
02-11-2013, 11:26
I've enjoyed both of his audiobooks, which he reads himself, and have watched his show infrequently over the years. He is obviously polarizing, but I've become quite a fan of the guy, even if he has had as large a role as any in "ruining" PVW.

ChainWhip
02-11-2013, 12:18
I like Bourdain and after meeting him in person, he's actually a very genuine (albeit snarky) person. Sure, he's an easy target for the whisky-lover's PVW woes but even if Bourdain never mentioned a peep about Old Gentlemanly Dude, there still would be craziness around allocation time.

That said, prices were lower & bottles more readily available here in Washington state before liquor sales were privatized.

matthewdc
02-11-2013, 19:03
Including Bourdain who seems to have been pouring gas on the fire in recent episodes by constantly bringing it up.

It's also other celebrity chefs like Chang, Ripert, Brock, and others that are pouring the gas too. These guys are rock stars to the hipster crowd. I mean if they mention they used organic Egyptian Walking Onions or sustainable Patagonian toothfish for their dish, there's going to be a run on that stuff too!

But I find it humorous when Bourdain (on an episode of "On The Table") says "you can't tell people about this stuff [PVW]" but then immediately says "that is the most glorious bourbon on the planet." Or Chang and Brock (on Mind of a Chef) doing a tour and tasting with JVWIII.

I just want to thank those guys for making it that much harder to get it!

Barclay Beach
02-11-2013, 20:12
In the big picture, I respect guys like Bourdain, Chang, et al. But it's pretty inconvenient when their interests overlap with ours. Just thankful they're mostly focused on the PVW. Throws the hipsters off the scent, for the time being.

For what it's worth, I'm sure that there's a group of Brazilians who are pissed that Bourdain blew up their favorite Caipirinha bar. :smiley_acbt:

Restaurant man
02-12-2013, 16:42
It's also other celebrity chefs like Chang, Ripert, Brock, and others that are pouring the gas too. These guys are rock stars to the hipster crowd. I mean if they mention they used organic Egyptian Walking Onions or sustainable Patagonian toothfish for their dish, there's going to be a run on that stuff too!

But I find it humorous when Bourdain (on an episode of "On The Table") says "you can't tell people about this stuff [PVW]" but then immediately says "that is the most glorious bourbon on the planet." Or Chang and Brock (on Mind of a Chef) doing a tour and tasting with JVWIII.

I just want to thank those guys for making it that much harder to get it!

My only problem with Bourdain is that he's a phony. When's the last time Chef Bourdain has cooked anything. And he bad mouths chefs at every turn including in his tell all book that sparked his fame. He touts pappy because he wants to be associated with the secret good stuff. Too bad he's like at least 5 years too late.he's like the last one to jump on the bandwagon waving other people on. as far as pappy prices here, haven't seen any.

Josh
02-12-2013, 16:45
I've always thought of Anthony Bourdain as the punk rock Rick Steves.

Barclay Beach
02-12-2013, 19:37
He touts pappy because he wants to be associated with the secret good stuff. Too bad he's like at least 5 years too late.he's like the last one to jump on the bandwagon waving other people on.

True, promoting a scarce product definitely reeks of elitism and obviousness. Would be a lot cooler if he chose to champion something everyone could get their hands on. Like, OGD... or better yet, Pinnacle cake flavored vodka.

smokinjoe
02-12-2013, 19:52
True, promoting a scarce product definitely reeks of elitism and obviousness. Would be a lot cooler if he chose to champion something everyone could get their hands on. Like, Pinnacle cake flavored vodka.

BB just let the cat out of the bag!! Here comes Guy Fieri to corner the market on cake flavored vodka!! :D Goes good with those white rimmed sun glasses....turned backwards!!!!! Hot, BABY!!! :lol:

I'm sorry, but I think all of these "celebrity chefs" are total douchebags....:rolleyes:

Barclay Beach
02-13-2013, 08:13
BB just let the cat out of the bag!! Here comes Guy Fieri to corner the market on cake flavored vodka!! :D Goes good with those white rimmed sun glasses....turned backwards!!!!! Hot, BABY!!! :lol:

I'm sorry, but I think all of these "celebrity chefs" are total douchebags....:rolleyes:

Yeah, the douchebags will get ya. Just imagine this reality show pitch... "It's Moonshiners meets Finding Bigfoot, we call it 'Dusty Hunters', produced by Ryan Seacrest." Then, we're all screwed. :banghead:

squire
02-13-2013, 08:36
You fellas remember when during a live broad cast Julia Child pulled the Thanksgiving turkey out of the oven and dropped it on the floor? She calmly picked it up and remarked, "What the guests don't know won't hurt them", that woman had style.

Compared to Miss Julia the Tonys and Guys of the World are mere posers.

Trey Manthey
02-13-2013, 10:15
You fellas remember when during a live broad cast Julia Child pulled the Thanksgiving turkey out of the oven and dropped it on the floor? She calmly picked it up and remarked, "What the guests don't know won't hurt them", that woman had style.

Compared to Miss Julia the Tonys and Guys of the World are mere posers.

Turns out that anecdote is what the youngsters are calling "urban legend."

smokinjoe
02-13-2013, 11:49
You fellas remember when during a live broad cast Julia Child pulled the Thanksgiving turkey out of the oven and dropped it on the floor? She calmly picked it up and remarked, "What the guests don't know won't hurt them", that woman had style.

Compared to Miss Julia the Tonys and Guys of the World are mere posers.

Ah...The French Chef...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tnc9_the-french-chef_fun

squire
02-15-2013, 12:07
Mrs. Child verified the story in an interview some years back.

smknjoe
02-15-2013, 12:10
Turns out that anecdote is what the youngsters are calling "urban legend."

Well if it's on Snopes is must be true!

Trey Manthey
02-18-2013, 04:44
Mrs. Child verified the story in an interview some years back.

Link? I'd love to show this to my mom.

squire
02-18-2013, 08:25
No idea, it was in one of the food magazines published prior to the internet, probably early 70s.

c2walker
02-18-2013, 11:23
No idea, it was in one of the food magazines published prior to the internet, probably early 70s.

Julia Child dropping a turkey, but going ahead and serving it is a myth (http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/juliachild.asp).

As for PVW prices, they're becoming too damn high! (http://imgur.com/LsoBGp6)

smknjoe
02-18-2013, 12:23
Link? I'd love to show this to my mom.

Unfortunately, you can't really find everything on the Internet. Especially, pop-culture from that long ago.


Julia Child dropping a turkey, but going ahead and serving it is a myth (http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/juliachild.asp).

As for PVW prices, they're becoming too damn high! (http://imgur.com/LsoBGp6)

I was kidding about snopes. That's definitely not a reliable source.

Talk about thread drift! I post a couple of lines in the "how did you break your Glencairn" that pertained to the topic of Glencairns and I got a warning!

callmeox
02-18-2013, 12:54
Talk about thread drift! I post a couple of lines in the "how did you break your Glencairn" that pertained to the topic of Glencairns and I got a warning!

Yep, thread drift sucks. We do what we can when we find it. I've pruned the excess from that thread and placed it in here.

If it gets any wackier, it can be moved to off topic.

Anyhow, what you got wasn't a warning...you will know if/when that happens. What you got was a courtesy reminder from a moderator. :)

ebo
02-18-2013, 16:09
BB just let the cat out of the bag!! Here comes Guy Fieri to corner the market on cake flavored vodka!! :D Goes good with those white rimmed sun glasses....turned backwards!!!!! Hot, BABY!!! :lol:

I'm sorry, but I think all of these "celebrity chefs" are total douchebags....:rolleyes:

I agree. I do like Adam Richman, though.

ramblinman
02-26-2013, 22:42
Not sure whether he is an idiot or not but certainly his "TV persona" comes off as a big blowhard. Maybe he is that way in real life too but I have no idea. I don't think we would likely have much in common besides travel but I do enjoy watching the show because I have had the good fortune to travel a fair bit myself over the years. Just finished my "bipolar" year last year with trips to Argentina/Antarctica and the Arctic (Iceland/Greenland/Svalbard with a side trip to London and Belgium) and am off to Cuba in a few weeks. One of the things I enjoy when I travel is trying to learn a bit about the local culture through food and drink. I don't have the access he gets of course but it can still be interesting and helpful to watch what he did.

I did think his recent Atlanta show on The Layover was a bit underwhelming. Don't care for that show as much or for his visits to American cities as much as the more "exotic" locals. Not that it matters as it has now runs its course. Remains to be seen whether the upcoming CNN gig will have as much interest for me.

I think Bourdain does go over the top a bit on his shows, but some of that is just being a showman since he's in the entertainment business. Listening to real interviews with him, like on NPRs Splendid Table, and he seems pretty down to earth. He's a foodie who got lucky, and gets to travel the world, be an ass, and eat/drink some great stuff.

Agreed on the Atlanta episode, it was a B- effort, but I'm guessing most locals probably feel that way when he visits their city.

sailor22
02-27-2013, 06:49
I don't have a problem with Bourdain at all, in fact I usually enjoy the show when I manage to catch it. I just don't watch much TV. He reminds me of a lot of New Yorkers I have known over the years as far as attitude and swager. Maybe it's a Miami thing and when I grew up in Miami it was like a distant southern suburb of New York.
What I enjoy is his appreciation and enthusiasm for street food, simple fare and strong drink. He gets snarky when average food is served pretentiously.

TheNovaMan
02-27-2013, 22:48
I agree. I do like Adam Richman, though. +1
Sometimes he tries to be a little too clever or overly dramatic, but he seems like a cool guy. I've enjoyed his shows.

Borchard
02-28-2013, 08:46
It wasn't Anthony Bourdain, but Zane Lamprey from Three Sheets, that first introduced me to PVW. it was the episode where he went to Kentucky and told all about bourbon that I first even heard of PVW. It was what made me go out and buy a bottle with my first bonus check from my new job 5 yrs ago. (BTW, I paid $75 for a bottle of 23yr Family Reserve, which is NOW pricing out at $495...)

squire
02-28-2013, 09:31
I remember Pappy prices when they were much less than $75.00. I just hope the media foodies don't decide BIBs are the new best thing.

tanstaafl2
02-28-2013, 11:02
It wasn't Anthony Bourdain, but Zane Lamprey from Three Sheets, that first introduced me to PVW. it was the episode where he went to Kentucky and told all about bourbon that I first even heard of PVW. It was what made me go out and buy a bottle with my first bonus check from my new job 5 yrs ago. (BTW, I paid $75 for a bottle of 23yr Family Reserve, which is NOW pricing out at $495...)

Great show! That show led me to track down several bottles out of curiosity over its short run although none were bourbon. One was Penderyn Welsh whisky.

Borchard
02-28-2013, 14:05
I guess I don't watch him as often as some. Does he often bring up PVW? I've seen him do it once, at a restaurant in Seattle.

tigerlam92
08-31-2013, 18:45
Just watch The Mind of a Chef, and David Chang has Julian Van Winkle and Sean Brook up a couple of times. I thought it was well presented, especially episode 8.

I just want to live in Julian's tasting room. In the background it has so many nice bottles that I love, PVW and BTAC.

squire
08-31-2013, 22:35
Julian also stated his grandfather started making whisky in 1893. Actually that is when PVW got his first job as a salesman with the Weller Co. With all deference to the old gentleman the truth is PVW never made a drop of whisky though he was a whiz at selling it.

The Master Distillers that launched and ran Stitzel-Weller were members of the Beam family.