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Alden
04-17-2013, 19:07
I saw this today for around $16.00. Never tried it.

Is it better than the usual bottom shelf E.D. drinkers, or is it a cut above?

Cute name, wine shaped bottle. Gimmicky? What do you think?

jonhalter
04-17-2013, 19:18
It is certainly drinkable. Not great, but not bad at all. Give it a chance.

Alden
04-17-2013, 19:34
I can get OGD BiB for the same price.

Are the similar? I think the proofs are about the same.

c2walker
04-17-2013, 19:39
I can get OGD BiB for the same price.

Are the similar? I think the proofs are about the same.

Not really. OGD is Beam. FC is Heaven Hill. OGD is likely around 4 years old. FC is at least 6 years old. Both are decent, but not remarkable pours.

CoMobourbon
04-17-2013, 19:39
Very much not gimmicky. It's just good 6 year 103 proof rye bourbon with a simple sweet-sometimes-a-little-spicy flavor profile and a low price. Nothing spectacular, but a good/great value depending on your preferences. Regarding the whole "bottom-shelf" question, I would describe it as a good value bourbon. Noticeabely better than the very solid / high value EW black, if that provides any reference point.

In short, the gimmicky-seeming name / brand belies respectable stuff.

savagehenry
04-17-2013, 19:41
I can get OGD BiB for the same price.

Are the similar? I think the proofs are about the same.

Buy them both and do a side by side tasting.
I'm working through my first bottle of FC. IMO it's very good considering the low price point, 103 proof and 6 year statement.

CoMobourbon
04-17-2013, 19:44
I can get OGD BiB for the same price.

Are the similar? I think the proofs are about the same.

IMHO opinion, similar in quality (with a nod to the OGD) but very different in flavor. FC is sweet-sweet controlled heat with a little spice whereas OGD in my experience has a dryer and more rye intensive flavor / spice to it.

camduncan
04-17-2013, 19:45
My experience found it to be a hot spicy bourbon with lots of burn on the finish. It's not my idea of a great (or even value) bourbon, but your mileage may vary.

Josh
04-17-2013, 20:32
I think it's a pretty good bourbon. Decent substitute for Old Ezra 101.

JPBoston
04-17-2013, 20:36
FC is great stuff for the price. 103 proof, 6 yr age statement, sweet up front with rye spice in the mid/finish.

Waaay better then the name/price would suggest.

black mamba
04-17-2013, 23:29
Worth the money for sure, but it's 13.99 around here. HH Old Style White BIB 6yo is better and cheaper, but not available in MO.

WAINWRIGHT
04-18-2013, 05:50
It's a good solid bourbon 6yr age stated 103prf,quite a bit of value for what it is.You don't have many choices in this price category and this is one that is truly worth it,I to agree that HH BIB 6yr is better but not available here either.

kickert
04-18-2013, 06:36
Very much not gimmicky. It's just good 6 year 103 proof rye bourbon with a simple sweet-sometimes-a-little-spicy flavor profile and a low price. Nothing spectacular, but a good/great value depending on your preferences. Regarding the whole "bottom-shelf" question, I would describe it as a good value bourbon. Noticeabely better than the very solid / high value EW black, if that provides any reference point.

In short, the gimmicky-seeming name / brand belies respectable stuff.

I agree with everything you just said. I have never been a fan of HH products, but this is very decent, with good proof, good age, and nothing offensive in the taste. As noted elsewhere, it is a bit hot, even with water, but I would prefer that to some other attributes that bottom shelf bourbons often have (oily, unbalanced, grassy, etc.)

Richnimrod
04-18-2013, 07:27
I think I read a couple years ago that Fighting Cock is a wheater.
Can anybody say for sure what the FC mashbill is? :rolleyes:

Josh
04-18-2013, 08:12
I think I read a couple years ago that Fighting Cock is a wheater.
Can anybody say for sure what the FC mashbill is? :rolleyes:

It's definately not a wheater. There's no evidence besides ill-informed marketing puffery that FC is anything other than the standard HH rye-recipe mashbill. This was discussed in another thread a while back, but I'm too lazy to find it right now.

cowdery
04-18-2013, 13:47
Fighting Cock is Heaven Hill's standard rye-recipe bourbon, the same basic juice as Evan Williams and Elijah Craig. Assuming it still has its age statement, it is six years old. That and its high proof make it a good value. My only caveat would be that the brand's profile is deliberately hot, for people who believe whiskey should burn a little going down. That's not a flaw, it's made that way on purpose, so if you like a milder and better-tempered bourbon, stay away from Fighting Cock.

PaulO
04-18-2013, 16:16
I'm a big fan of FC 103. I just finished a bottle the other day. It seemed to me that the most recent bottle had less heat, and more sweetness than I remember from the past. I may buck the trend here, and say I like it just a little more than HH BIB 6 year old. Actually I think they are both very good.

justataste
04-18-2013, 16:24
I like FC very well on the rocks. Oddly enough I don't care for it as much when mixed. It's a little sweet.

I must admit I thin FC wipes the floor with JD and JB.

Alden
04-18-2013, 16:34
I'll pick up a bottle of this next time I'm in that store.

Sounds pretty good.

Hot and sweet, just like I like my women.

:slappin:

justataste
04-18-2013, 16:52
Alden you are my hero.

Seems like you pick up a couple of bottles of good bourbon almost every day! And what a terrific range of whiskey!

I am often drinking vicariously through you! Party on man.

Alden
04-18-2013, 17:42
Alden you are my hero.

Seems like you pick up a couple of bottles of good bourbon almost every day! And what a terrific range of whiskey!

I am often drinking vicariously through you! Party on man.

:grin:

Hahaha... thanks for noticing! It's not that frequent... but close!

I need to slow down though. Been on a tear lately.

squire
04-18-2013, 19:37
I quit buying Fighting Cock when they dropped the 8 year age statement which is not so much a comment on the whisky, just my wont. It's still a BIB class whisky and if sold at a good price something I wouldn't pass on.

Bourbon Boiler
04-18-2013, 20:08
Good value and a unique, but not overly sophisticated taste. It's what I put in flasks for football games, knowing half the drinkers are going to mix it with a soft drink anyway, and it's something I can enjoy straight when I'm not trying to be Wow-ed with a high end.

Richnimrod
04-18-2013, 20:10
Thanx to all who corrected my misinformation about FC/Wheat. It didn't taste alot like a wheater to me, though, it's been awhile since I tasted it. :rolleyes:

JPBoston
04-20-2013, 10:17
The 2nd bottle of FC that I've purchased isn't as impressive as the 1st. The caramel sweetness is basically not there at all... so I'm left with the simple rye spice.

Not bad, but not as interesting as the first time around.

CoMobourbon
04-20-2013, 10:58
That's interesting. I have only had one bottle and was also struck by the nice hot caramel sweetness. Hm. I'll have to see if my mileage varies on my next bottle.

Bryan
04-20-2013, 17:41
Alden, did you pick up a bottle today? I just purchased one and say $16 well spent. I am really enjoying the mint juleps I'm making with it.

Alden
04-20-2013, 18:37
Alden, did you pick up a bottle today? I just purchased one and say $16 well spent. I am really enjoying the mint juleps I'm making with it.

No not today. Maybe tomorrow, or Tuesday, or Wednesday. I will be driving right by there Tuesday and Wednesday anyway.

Today I made an Old Fashioned with 4R YL and later I had two fingers of WR on ice.

Alden
04-21-2013, 19:21
I got one today and had a couple of pours. This tastes a lot like Buffalo Trace to me, which is a favorite of mine.

I think it's much better than the price would indicate. $15.49.

BigBoldBully
04-21-2013, 21:53
maybe i am way off but FC strikes me as one of the most basic whiskies on my shelf. and i don't mean that it's necessarily the simplest, but one of the least acidic. often i find myself adding a twist of lemon.

Alden
04-22-2013, 04:52
maybe i am way off but FC strikes me as one of the most basic whiskies on my shelf. and i don't mean that it's necessarily the simplest, but one of the least acidic. often i find myself adding a twist of lemon.

I don't think you are way off. For some reason I picked up a lot of different flavors in it.

Maybe this batch is different, or it's just me, IDK.

Alden
04-22-2013, 05:10
Another thing I have noticed about my preferences. I'm finding that I gravitate towards the slightly sweeter profiles.

I like rye, and I like bourbons like OGD, but they will never be my first choices. They are on the dry side.

Wild Turkey, Woodford Reserve, Buffalo Trace, Weller 12, and this one, are all on the sweet side, and I like them just a bit better.

Flyfish
04-25-2013, 16:59
I got one today and had a couple of pours. This tastes a lot like Buffalo Trace to me, which is a favorite of mine.

I think it's much better than the price would indicate. $15.49.

I don't notice the similarity to BT but I always keep a bottle on hand for the football season--South Carolina, don't you know. I'd have FC more often but I can't get it in the Buckeye state. And I agree it is a great value pour.