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Kyjd75
05-17-2013, 15:37
Well, today I had the privilege of participating in a private barrel selection at the Four Roses warehouses at Cox's Creek. We selected two barrels that will be sold at Eric's store in Elizabethtown, Ky., Packages and More Liquors. It was quite an experience, and I must say that Four Roses certainly does it right when doing something like this.

We sampled from ten separate barrels, one for each of their ten recipes. All were 10-12 years old. Samples were drawn straight from the barrels and had plenty of char in them. We sampled at barrel strength, and then had the option of adding water if we desired (no one did). The sampling took place in the back of the bottling operation building, and the ten barrels were lined up on the floor immediately adjacent to where we sampled.

Ultimately we chose one barrel each of the OESF and the OBSF recipes. All that we sampled were good, but to us these barrels stood out. Can't wait to see them in the store and take some home!

theglobalguy
05-17-2013, 15:43
Thanks for sharing. Glad to see despite how busy these distilleries are becoming that they still put full effort into programs like this.

Now the more serious question is how you can type full paragraphs having sampled so much bourbon? You sir are clearly a professional!

smknjoe
05-17-2013, 15:50
I've heard great things about their hospitality during the barrel selection process.

Did they pull the barrels from the semi-trailer in the back, or directly from the rickhouse?

Kyjd75
05-17-2013, 15:59
I've heard great things about their hospitality during the barrel selection process.

Did they pull the barrels from the semi-trailer in the back, or directly from the rickhouse?

The barrels had already been pulled when we arrived, so I don't know how long they had been there. We did see a semi-trailer arrive and backup to where we were about 15 minutes before we actually went in. Trailer was there during our sampling, so they may have come from that trailer, but honestly I don't know.

smknjoe
05-17-2013, 16:07
It sounds like they may have pulled some "fresh" barrels for you. I was just curious. I'm sure it doesn't matter anyway. Looking at the picture #2 and #4 have some nice color. I'm pretty impressed. We don't have many SB selections anywhere in Houston. The only ones I've seen are BT an ER10 and they were chosen by BT not by anyone locally.

Tony
05-17-2013, 16:31
That is just great, thank you for sharing.

I hope to be able to get a barrel some day.

Best regards, Tony

scubadoo97
05-17-2013, 17:38
No one does it better than Four Roses. Jim is a wonderful host and a super nice guy

P&MLiquorsEric
05-17-2013, 18:07
15401A couple of photos. Mr Rutledge was not in attendance out host Dan was more than gracious. 15402 The winners.

squire
05-17-2013, 18:19
Thanks for allowing me along on the journey, that sounds like a cracking good way to spend a Friday.

Phil T
05-17-2013, 19:36
15401A couple of photos. Mr Rutledge was not in attendance out host Dan was more than gracious. 15402 The winners.

No other way to say it...just fucking bitchin..:shocked:

smokinjoe
05-17-2013, 20:47
Well done, fellas! I'm sure your selections are terrific. When do you think they will hit the store?
:toast:

Restaurant man
05-17-2013, 21:57
15401A couple of photos. Mr Rutledge was not in attendance out host Dan was more than gracious. 15402 The winners.

Nice! Everybody here loves to see a winning barrel.

Crowes
05-18-2013, 01:18
Awesome. Just a few days ago I did a tour of that facility. I was lucky in that I was the only person there. When I was shown that back section where they do the private tasting for barrel selections I kept wondering what it would be like to be there doing an actual tasting... now I know (a little at least lol). Very cool of you to share, thank you.

P&MLiquorsEric
05-18-2013, 06:42
Well done, fellas! I'm sure your selections are terrific. When do you think they will hit the store?
:toast:

Not sure. I'm guessing a month or so.

The winners were oBSF and OESF. Both about 11 years old. Same yeast, two different mashbills.

trader1974
05-18-2013, 06:58
Awesome! Thanks for posting the pics and details. I look forward to picking up some.

hectic1
05-18-2013, 07:40
Great Pics...Four Roses does IMO the best job of any of the distilleries with their single barrel tasting events with KBD coming a close second. Did you guys sample the barrels blind (not knowing the recipes) or did you specify what recipes were to be in the tasting? The last couple times we've picked blind the F's popped to the front on 3 of 4 selections...those barrels seem to hit their peak in the 10-11yr range where the other recipes mature a little earlier. :cool:

WAINWRIGHT
05-18-2013, 07:51
OBSF and OESF @ 11yrs. those should be some great barrels indeed,enjoy guys!I am a recently converted F fan myself,I will have to agree with Bob as in the past I would just pass them over and now I can't get enough.

MyOldKyDram
05-18-2013, 07:53
That F yeast is still my least favorite, but I'm willing to give it another go. For science. Maybe I'll head to Etown when you guys get these in.

Barrel_Proof
05-18-2013, 08:17
Ultimately we chose one barrel each of the OESF and the OBSF recipes.

Well done! I will try to swing by the store after these arrive. --Cliff

hectic1
05-18-2013, 08:22
OBSF and OESF @ 11yrs. those should be some great barrels indeed,enjoy guys!I am a recently converted F fan myself,I will have to agree with Bob as in the past I would just pass them over and now I can't get enough.
I wonder how that happened? :cool:

p_elliott
05-18-2013, 09:20
Well, today I had the privilege of participating in a private barrel selection at the Four Roses warehouses at Cox's Creek. We selected two barrels that will be sold at Eric's store in Elizabethtown, Ky., Packages and More Liquors. It was quite an experience, and I must say that Four Roses certainly does it right when doing something like this.

We sampled from ten separate barrels, one for each of their ten recipes. All were 10-12 years old. Samples were drawn straight from the barrels and had plenty of char in them. We sampled at barrel strength, and then had the option of adding water if we desired (no one did). The sampling took place in the back of the bottling operation building, and the ten barrels were lined up on the floor immediately adjacent to where we sampled.

Ultimately we chose one barrel each of the OESF and the OBSF recipes. All that we sampled were good, but to us these barrels stood out. Can't wait to see them in the store and take some home!
Note to self: Go to Elizabeth town in September.

bigtoys
05-18-2013, 21:32
great experience. thanks for sharing the pics!

Kyjd75
07-25-2013, 16:24
Although I expect Eric to jump in here with more info, I can report that the finished product has finally arrived! I bought the first bottle this morning of both the OESF and OBSF variations. We opened the OBSF at the store to see if it was as it should be, and I must say it was at least as good as I remembered, or perhaps even better. Eric has several cases of each at present.

MyOldKyDram
07-25-2013, 16:26
Very cool. Glad these finally came in for you guys!

Old Dusty
07-25-2013, 17:01
Hope they last until Aug 10 when I'll be in Etown. Would like an OBSF to bookend the TPS OESF I already have.

P&MLiquorsEric
07-25-2013, 18:01
Finally. Bottled approximately 45 days ago. Cox's creek is 20 miles from our store and it took that long for it to travel to Louisville and then back down to the store. Gotta love the 3 tier system.

To give four roses credit, they bottled less than 30 days from barrel selection. Buffalo trace is saying November before they bottle our selections from last week. Willett is going on 4 months from the time they sent out samples (8 if you count time waiting for samples to be sent).

squire
07-25-2013, 18:12
Thanks for pointing that out Eric, credit where due . . .

MauiSon
07-26-2013, 02:43
Yeah, it looks like a long time, until compared to the usual suspects' 'holding patterns'.

theglobalguy
07-26-2013, 05:11
Finally. Bottled approximately 45 days ago. Cox's creek is 20 miles from our store and it took that long for it to travel to Louisville and then back down to the store. Gotta love the 3 tier system.

To give four roses credit, they bottled less than 30 days from barrel selection. Buffalo trace is saying November before they bottle our selections from last week. Willett is going on 4 months from the time they sent out samples (8 if you count time waiting for samples to be sent).

i would understand the backlog from pick to bottle, but from bottle to ship/arrive seems mad since it was a guaranteed sale for the distributor.

Either way, glad they made it in.

trader1974
07-26-2013, 06:54
Picked up a bottle of the higher corn recipe last night and had a few sips. First taste was a "wow that's good" moment. Thanks for putting this on the shelf!

P&MLiquorsEric
07-26-2013, 07:34
i would understand the backlog from pick to bottle, but from bottle to ship/arrive seems mad since it was a guaranteed sale for the distributor.

Either way, glad they made it in.

It sat in the distributors warehouse for 3 weeks. We voiced our displeasure but our relationship with the distributor is like an arranged marriage with no possibility of divorce. You learn to live with it.

All is good now that they are in. I opened a bottle of the higher corn OESF (122 proof) last night also. I wont get all K&L and say this is the best whiskey to ever grace my lips but it is very tasty. Lots going on with the nose, full, sweet in mouth with some heat and a long finish.

HighHorse
07-26-2013, 10:01
Hard to understand the sudden upswing in the "F" selections. When we picked back in early April for Tallahassee, both F's popped up on our radar and were among the five barrels we ended up picking. Ours still have not come in.
Those sound great, Eric.

P&MLiquorsEric
07-27-2013, 02:36
Hard to understand the sudden upswing in the "F" selections. When we picked back in early April for Tallahassee, both F's popped up on our radar and were among the five barrels we ended up picking. Ours still have not come in.
Those sound great, Eric.

Sorry to hear it is taking so long. We selected In mid may. No idea what moved us up the list other than proximity to the bottling facility.