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tigerlam92
05-29-2013, 00:24
http://www.boneyardbistro.com/menus/spirits%20menu5.23.12.pdf

http://www.boneyardbistro.com/menus/spirits%20menu11.30.11.pdf

Just happen to stumble onto this so was wondering if anyone been here to see if it is still true. Boneyard Bistro.

Huge selection of very good bourbon and at IMO fairly reasonable prices, considering. I'm actually quite impressed.

Example - PVW 20 - $20 and Saz 18 - $15

darylld911
05-29-2013, 03:14
Never been, but agree they've got very reasonable prices on many drams (and a great selection!) Some are a bit high (Noah's Mill is NAS now, and $15 a pour is high since a bottle is around $50; and a bottle of Old Overholt runs $10 - $13 here, so $7 a pour is outrageous LOL). Most places I've seen cost the liquor at around 30% (so a $125 bottle like PVW20 is priced at $417, with a 2 oz pour going for around $35). Same formula puts a $20 bottle at $5 - $6 a pour. Their lower end is close to that, but much of the really nice stuff is discounted - which if you have a large enough customer base makes sense. I'm far more likely to try something new at a place like that.

Wish there was a place like that around Atlanta! I paid $22 for a pour of Whistlepig just to try it, compared to $15 at this joint!

brettckeen
05-29-2013, 07:13
$20 for an ounce of single oak is really high.
Also prices don't mean anything if you don't know the pour size.

tigerlam92
05-29-2013, 07:25
$20 for an ounce of single oak is really high.
Also prices don't mean anything if you don't know the pour size.

I'm just assuming worse case its a one ounce pour and looking at many of the prices, they are charging about 2.5X instead of what most places would be doing at 3.5X and up for markup and margin from what I can get it for.

There are some that is higher than expected but overall so many good selections and many at reasonable prices.

Similar for me as well, this establishment would be one that I may venture and pay for a number of different samplings.

At least to me, they are not blatantly overpricing.

Cheers
Hugh

brettckeen
05-29-2013, 07:58
Some places, more so restaurants get rapey on the van winkle, they see that product as a marketing driver more important to have on the shelf to add prestige to their restaurant than to actually sell as a product.

P&MLiquorsEric
05-29-2013, 08:59
Some places, more so restaurants get rapey on the van winkle, they see that product as a marketing driver more important to have on the shelf to add prestige to their restaurant than to actually sell as a product.

If they are only allotted a few bottles a year and they want to keep it in stock for more than a few weeks, charging an increased premium for it is reasonable. I believe the Van Winkles require restaurants to place their products in a drink menu AND keep them in the menu even if they are not in stock. At least that is the story in Kentucky.

The prices above are all reasonable given they are 1.5-2oz pours. The fact that they mention 1 oz pours for the single Oak tells me that everything else is standard pours.

cowdery
05-29-2013, 11:10
The Van Winkles can't require anybody to do anything because they don't and can't sell directly to restaurants or any other retailer. If anyone is attaching conditions to the sale of Van Winkle it's the local distributor. The Van Winkles have no control over what the distributors do.

tigerlam92
05-29-2013, 12:57
Not sure if anyone visited and verified they stocked the items in their menu.
Could they list an item while it is out of stock? I can understand maybe one or two but let's say 1/4 of the bottles are gone, won't that look really bad.

If it is 1.5 - 2 oz pour that is really nice.

Looks like the price and menu could be legitimate, no red flags from anyone. If I have a chance I guess I will be visiting them to see.

With this price and say they get allocated 3-6 bottles, I can't see how it could stay on the menu all year round.

750 ml = 25 oz \ 2 = 12 pours x $20 = $240 equivalent of a bottle.

Cheers
Hugh

brettckeen
05-29-2013, 14:34
If they are only allotted a few bottles a year and they want to keep it in stock for more than a few weeks, charging an increased premium for it is reasonable. I believe the Van Winkles require restaurants to place their products in a drink menu AND keep them in the menu even if they are not in stock. At least that is the story in Kentucky.

The prices above are all reasonable given they are 1.5-2oz pours. The fact that they mention 1 oz pours for the single Oak tells me that everything else is standard pours.

The van winkles don't require anything. That's a crazy rumor.

squire
05-29-2013, 14:44
Who hires the distributor?

tanstaafl2
05-29-2013, 14:49
Who hires the distributor?

Just so. Still, it sounds more like something a distributor would come up with than than PVW, which doesn't exactly have to get out there and encourage people to push their little "craft" bourbon...

brettckeen
05-29-2013, 14:55
Who hires the distributor?

Who ever is next up the food chain for the product. It could be an importer, a supplier an NDP etc...

brettckeen
05-29-2013, 14:56
Just so. Still, it sounds more like something a distributor would come up with than than PVW, which doesn't exactly have to get out there and encourage people to push their little "craft" bourbon...

The distributor may require something like that to stop their sales people from stealing PVW for themselves and to sell on the Bourbon Exchange.