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Paradox
10-08-2003, 10:39
Ok guys, a new post for a new forum... So what's in your glass as you sit here viewing the "new and improved" look of StraightBourbon.com?

It's a little early here now but nonetheless I'm having a pour of AH Hirsch 20. I think the anticipation of getting my orders of the 16 year in pulled me towards this one. I really like the 20 year, but for the price difference I'll take the 16 year any day. There may be a little, and I mean little, more bouquet or subtle tasting differences between the 2 but on a whole to me they are very similiar products. Either way, they are both great and will eventually be sadly missed.

Gillman
10-08-2003, 16:48
I happen to be tasting the same, Hirsch 20 years old. This is an outstanding whiskey. It is superior to the Hirsch 16 year old, good as that one is: smoother, deeper, richer. Whether it is worth the extra money is arguable, but this is about as fine a straight whiskey as can be found today (or likely anytime). It reminds me of other older whiskeys such as the current Rowan's Creek or ORVW Family Reserve 13 year old Straight Rye Whiskey, but it has a depth, balance and and fruity complexity those others don't attain.

I would be curious what the Hirsch 19 year old (which would seem genuine based on Jim Murray's reference) tastes like in comparison.

The Hirsch 20 year old (indeed any of the Hirsch/Michter's) is a true rarity because even when Michter's was sold in the marketplace under its own name unqualified (until the early 1980's) that Michter's - Michter's Original Sour Mash Whiskey - was never this aged. This is a super-luxury version of that Michter's. Still, the sweetness and balance of the original come through in the aged versions no less; the Hirsch 20 and 16 year olds would not be what they are had the Michter's 1974 distillate been anything less than very prime straight whiskey in all respects.

Gary

jeff
10-08-2003, 18:05
Heaven Hill 10yo BIB. Found this on the shelf today at Shopper's Village and thought I would give it a spin. The first thing that gets you is the heat. This is a slap you in the face type of bourbon for sure. But after a couple sips and you go numb, err get used to it, the flavors open up nicely. Lots of vanilla and nuts in here. Cinnamon and cloves are also in abundance. Finish is hot, real hot, but in a nice "I am bourbon, hear me roar" kind of way." I'll need to explore this one a bit more, but for only $10.99 a bottle it is a nice change of pace. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

OneCubeOnly
10-08-2003, 18:39
Cool bottle Jeff! I don't think I've ever seen that one! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Bob
10-09-2003, 06:42
I'm not drinking this right now, after all it is not even 9 AM yet, but last PM I had a drink of Jim Beam Black. Not exactly my favorite, but not bad either. Having this with a few ice cubes makes it more enjoyable to me. I'm working on finishing off this bottle to open up some shelf space for some new stuff, which I got quite a bit of while in KY, and now more coming from Chicago! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Paradox
10-09-2003, 07:26
Not like it matters Bob, but was it the new 8 year or the old 7 year Beam Black? I prefer the old 7 year which I think was 90 proof... I totally agree with you about some pous being beter with a bit o' ice. Elijah Craig 12yo, to me, is 100% better with one cube in it. Well, here's to making room for all we both have coming! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Bob
10-09-2003, 07:34
Mark,

I've got the 8 YO, 86 Proof. I've read that the 7 YO was the preferred bottling to get if you could find it, but I don't think I've ever seen it.

Paradox
10-09-2003, 07:38
It's becoming scarce now. Older shops still have it lying around but you have to look is small towns and such...

ratcheer
10-09-2003, 19:49
Woodford Reserve, straight. Still one of my favorites. Still candy!

Tim

bluesbassdad
10-09-2003, 19:54
ORVW 18 y/o Park Avenue Liquor Bottling.

I poured this one so I'd have something to brag about in the chat room tonight. When I checked in and found it empty, I was enjoying myself too much to be disappointed.

Oh, if only I had the tasting/vocabulary skills to do this one justice...

It's burley, walnuts and black raspberries to my humble palate. Surprisingly, it reminds me more of the 10/107 expression than the 15/107, which I find to be woodier. The finish may be drier than the 10 year-old, though.

If I were wealthy enough to buy this stuff by the case, I would definitely have a drinking problem. I suppose I'm better off having a money problem.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

TheRoff
10-09-2003, 21:05
The Roff, in his first post on these pages acknowledges that he is sipping 15 year old Rip VanWinkle. Being an extreme novice, I am having trouble picking out the various tastes – some caramel, some savory spice, and not much fruit. Is the high proof hiding taste, or is it my uneducated pallet? I actually got more fruit and caramel with Maker Mark which I see is some what panned on these pages.

CL
10-10-2003, 11:30
ORVW 15 yo is one of my favorites. Despite this bourbon being a wheater, I also find the spice a dominant (though very enjoyable) sensation. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

If you try the VW Special Reserve Lot B, 12 yo, I think you will find it has more of the fruit and silkiness of a wheater. The 12 yo is also a big favorite of mine, too. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

jeff
10-10-2003, 17:50
Old Charter 12yo, "The Classic". This is one hell of a bourbon for only $15. While I still prefer the added body and depth or the 13yo Proprietor's Reserve, this is one fine pour. All kinds of vanilla, caramel and wood in here and an amazing nose. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Paradox
10-10-2003, 20:07
Stacy and I are spending the weekend down at Chris and Kristins house. While the girls are intent on doing some baking stuff and making chocolates, me and Chris are poised for some serious drinking! Tonight we decided to open a bottle I promised to open after my surgery and everything went well; A bottle of Very Very Old Fitzgerald 12 year made by Stitzel Weller, distilled Fall 1965 and bottled Fall 1977. All we can both say is WOW! Chris had the chance to try this during the 2002 festival but I missed out on it. My first impressions were that this was a truly amazing bourbon, while he said it was a bit sharper than his previous taste. But after letting it sit in the glass just a few minutes this baby really opened up and did a complete 360. It really bacame more 'sweet' tasting and went down remarkably smooth. Life just doesn't get any better than drinking some of the finest bourbon I have had with my best friend! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bluesbassdad
10-11-2003, 00:06
Mark,

Please refresh my memory; what glasses are pictured?

BTW, that's a heckofa backdrop you have there. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
10-11-2003, 00:12
Those glasses are the Riedel Bourbon Glasses from the Small Batch Colection. They are actually my preferred drinking glass, even made sure to bring my own to the festival with me haha. Tomorrow we plan on doing a Barrel Proof shootout between various BP offerings including opening that Wild Turkey KY Legend Single Barrel Barrel Proof in the background.

I've had so many good bourbons tonight but on the list of first pours has been Eagle Rare 10 year 101 proof which I can say was worth the price from the Sams Warehouse Sale.

kgiammarco
10-11-2003, 23:03
Mark and me started our barrel proof tasting marathon with single barrel barrel proof wild turkey kentucky legend... We wanted to compare it to rare breed and also to kentucky spirit... We both agree that hands down it kills the 2 bottles of ky spirit that i have open and is also better than rare breed... We didn't have the time to do a good comparison with stagg (due to going back to the VVOF from yesterday http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) but it definitely can hold it's own with the premium bourbon heavyweights...

bobbyc
10-12-2003, 07:31
There's enough there to slake a thirst. I'm feeling pretty dry myself after looking at that!
<font color="blue">Good God Give John Bonham Some </font>

OneCubeOnly
10-12-2003, 10:27
What's the bottle between the Hirsch 16yo and the Very Very Old Fitz?

Paradox
10-12-2003, 13:25
Woodside Partners Reserve. It was a private bottling done for the Village Pub in Woodside, CA by Julian. It is one of his best private bottlings if you ask me.

bluesbassdad
10-12-2003, 16:47
Wild Turkey 12 year-old.

This bottling dethroned Kentucky Spirit as my personal King of the Bourbon Hill a few months back. Some day I really need to do a side-by-side comparison with Hirsch 16. In my admittedly flawed taste-memory, the Hirsch tastes better, but the WT12 is truer to what bourbon ought to taste like. I guess it doesn't really matter; I already own all of both bottlings that I will ever have (two and a fraction bottles of WT12, and four and a fraction bottles of the Hirsch).

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
10-12-2003, 17:40
Yep, it's good stuff (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=14797&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb= 5&amp;o=).

jeff
10-12-2003, 17:45
Booker's straight up http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

After a long day on the trails I needed something to take the edge off the little aches and pains that follow http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif Comming across a little hot and spicy tonight, but still full of flavor.

Paradox
10-12-2003, 17:50
You're not kidding Chuck! They really picked out on hell of a honey barrel for that bottling.

ph0rk
10-12-2003, 18:59
At the moment, Knob Creek.

Yum!

.

TNbourbon
10-12-2003, 19:44
Well, I lined up my Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13yo and VW Special Reserve Lot B 12yo -- and the rye won by an extra 1/8th-inch. If I decide on another round later tonight, the Lot B will have a bit more, so it'll win. I win either way.

Bob
10-12-2003, 20:01
Ancient Ancient Age 10 Year Old. Not a lot of complexity in the taste of this Bourbon, but it is wonderfully smooth and creamy. Very nice!

SteelerFan
10-12-2003, 21:02
I'm having some Buffalo Trace.
An easy Bourbon to enjoy. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

robbyvirus
10-13-2003, 00:38
Elmer T. Lee. Anyone ever try one of those "christmas beers" made by several different microbrewerys (Anchor Steam makes one, and so does Sierra Nevada)? They taste like beer with nutmeg and other spices added. That's what Elmer T. Lee tastes like to me...bourbon with spices added. A very distinctive taste. Some days I like it and some days I don't. Unfortunately, today I don't. So I think I'll move on to some Van Winkle to cleanse the palate.

MurphyDawg
10-13-2003, 14:21
I have tried Christmas beers by Sam Adams, Harpoon, &amp; Saranac. . . . and you are right! That is what Elmer T Lee tastes like, good call!


TomC

Bob
10-13-2003, 17:44
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 Year Old 107 Proof. This stuff is just SOOOO GOOD! One of these days I'm going to open up the ORVW 15 YO big brother and compare 'em. Should be tasty!

Bob

jeff
10-13-2003, 18:14
Tonight it is Buffalo Trace. I am getting so much apple in here that at first I though I picked up a glass of hard cider http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I wish everyone had access to this bourbon. At $15 a bottle, this is a perfect example of what a premium bourbon should be (and cost) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jimbo
10-14-2003, 17:16
Basil Hayden's 8 yr, 80 proof. Just trying to get rid of it. To me, this is another smooth, mellow, bland whiskey. My preference for bourbon (or any whiskey) is for FLAVOR.

Regards, jimbo

tommy
10-14-2003, 17:27
Tonight I'm drinking Old Weller Antique. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Tommy

jeff
10-14-2003, 17:40
I'm on the other end with Weller "Special Rerserve" 7yo. Not bad bourbon for the price, but I'd go for a couple more dollars and the 12yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Paradox
10-14-2003, 17:55
All this Weller talk made me go open my bottle of Weller 12 year I got at the festival this year. This bourbon is a sleeper, not the best looking bottle on the store shelf but a great bourbon for the price. You are right Jeff, Chris and I opened a bottle of the Weller Special Reserve 7 year and Weller 12 year while in the hotel room during the festival and we both said the 12 year was a better bourbon for the few extra bucks.

MurphyDawg
10-14-2003, 18:39
I like the 12 year better than both the special reserve &amp; the Antique, though the 7/107 is good enough to keep around. . . if fact I thnk I will have some tonight!


TomC

CL
10-14-2003, 18:47
I'll be damned. Tonight is Weller night. I just finished a drink of the 12 yo before I came online to see all the rest of you enjoying Weller products.

Sadly, though, my 1.75L is getting low. Time for a KY road trip.

kgiammarco
10-15-2003, 15:52
Definitely have to agree with what Marvin was saying at the festival... That weller 12year gets much better after sitting out in the glass for a while...

-Chris

TNbourbon
10-15-2003, 22:23
Tonight it's just a simple Old Forester 86 -- I've already had a glass of wine with dinner, and a Finlandia and Coke watching the Cubs lose (I started the series rooting for Chicago, until the "It's got to be someone else's fault" uproar about the foul-ball grabber in Game 6; now I'm glad the Marlins won, though I have no real stake in it either way). A 2-ounce taste of OF makes this a wild night for me.

doubleblank
10-16-2003, 16:00
I'm going to stop by my local retailer and pick up the ORVW10YR107. It seems to get the approval of a lot of bourbonites. I'll smoke a R&amp;J Vintage V. Heck...that sounds so good, I'd better get going.

Doubleblank

jeff
10-16-2003, 16:03
And then you're going to march right down to the "Smokes" forum and give us your impressions http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

robbyvirus
10-17-2003, 00:53
I'm having a glass of the Van Winkle 12 y.o "Old Time" rye. Damn, this stuff is good. I still have a couple of bottles bunkered away, but once those are gone it will be a sad day indeed.

mickblueeyes
10-17-2003, 08:12
Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve and a Bolivar Corona Gigantes http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif, at least, I was last night.

SSBourbon1
10-17-2003, 20:19
I am a transplant to Virginia and should have studied up on the limitations of what would be available at the ABC. Stopped in today and saw a Virginia Bourbon distilled just a bit down the road from me in Spotsylvania (what a town). Picked it up and I am suprised that I thorughly like it...Virginia Gentleman Single Barrel. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif It has a sweet aroma and a mild taste with a medium finish. It is put through a copper still and I think that this makes a difference. It is the first NON Kentucky bourbon I have tried and I am truly enjoying it!
Goodnight from the south.

ratcheer
10-17-2003, 20:33
Well, not right now, but in a few minutes I'm going to have a healthy shot of WT Russell's Reserve while doing some reading. It (RR) is really starting to grow on me. Finally.

I am finishing up reading Tolkien's The Return of the King and starting to anxiously await the release of the movie. I have re-read each book of the trilogy over the past three falls in preparation for the release of the movies. I also re-read The Hobbit at some point in there. It amazes me how fresh the writing still seems.

Tim

MurphyDawg
10-17-2003, 23:48
Tim,

I have read all four books (accompamied many times by a great bourbon pour) over the last year, actually in rather quick succession over the summer. In a great compliment to the author, after reading like 2000 pages of his work continuously, I was dissapointed that I was "done already".


TomC

MurphyDawg
10-17-2003, 23:51
The sporting events last night kept me out of the mood to drink reflectively (more like wanting lots of beer to alleviate stress), so I abstained completely. Because of the results, instead of the victory Stagg I had planned, I had a healthy pour of comforting Ancient Ancient Age 10 year.


Tom (there's always next year) C

ratcheer
10-18-2003, 07:14
In a great compliment to the author, after reading like 2000 pages of his work continuously, I was dissapointed that I was "done already".



I am, too. I have actually finished the story and am now diligently wading through the "reference materials" at the end.

To continue my habit, I may have to get The Silmarillion , but I have always heard that it isn't quite up to the standard of the rest of them. Actually, didn't J.R.R. just leave a bunch of manuscript and the actual book was finished by his son?

Tim

P.S., the Russell's Reserve was excellent. Sweet and spicy.

WEG3
10-18-2003, 08:42
Well last night it was a nice shot of EB 15year and a bit of ginger ale .... normally I don't mix but last night it was a good choice very enjoyable ...As to the works of Tolken, I have enjoyed them all but for The Silmarillion , it is a correct that is was a completed byhis son and a compilement of note and manuscripts for the history of Middle Earth . I found it very hard to really get into in that it was more of a dry out line history than like his works before ,IMHO.
Bill G.

tommy
10-18-2003, 13:24
That bottling of VA Gentleman, aka "The Fox," has a lot of fans around here, myself included. Welcome to Virginia and SB.com!

Tommy

OneCubeOnly
10-18-2003, 15:01
Picked it up and I am suprised that I thorughly like it...Virginia Gentleman Single Barrel.



Single Barrel? Is there a new VA Gentleman release, or is this the 90 proof (aka "the Fox")???

SteveZZZ
10-18-2003, 15:05
Hmmm.... It appears the drink of the day for me is Blanton's. Its a bourbon I greatly enjoy, but I wish it wasn't quite so expensive around here... my bottle seems to be disappearing quite fast. For those of you who have finished the LotR series and are looking for something else worth reading, I'd highly recommend Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, starting with The Eye of the World. If Tolkein's 2000 pages isn't enough for you, don't worry. Jordan's series will probably be in the 7000-8000 page range by the time he's done with it, and every page is a treat.

Steve

Paradox
10-18-2003, 15:40
I was wondering the same thing. I think it has to be 'The Fox' 90 proof though... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

ratcheer
10-18-2003, 17:55
Thanks. That confirms what I have always heard. It is probably quite true, then, that its not as good as the rest of the books.

Tim

ratcheer
10-18-2003, 17:57
For those of you who have finished the LotR series and are looking for something else worth reading, I'd highly recommend Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, starting with The Eye of the World.



Thanks for the tip. I will take a look.

Tim

ratcheer
10-18-2003, 21:10
Tonight, while watching the World Series game, I emptied a bottle of Woodford Reserve, which came to less than half a drink. So, I am following it up with another half drink of Old Forester Birthday Bourbon (the '89/'02).

Needless to say, the OFBB is the hands down winner. I like WR and I like it a lot. But the OFBB has a sweeter, caramelier (!!) aroma and an almost buttery-rich flavor. Both are quite spicy. I can also taste a bit of the wood in the OFBB. It is superb. Number one.

Tim

MurphyDawg
10-18-2003, 21:48
Ditto, I have been looking for some new stuff to catch my attention.



TomC

pepcycle
10-19-2003, 14:57
I'm drinking some Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage 1994. I managed to sneak some home from The Preview last night. I'm not sure what proof this is. Someone said it was barrelproof and another indicated it was diluted to 86 proof. Tastes like barrelproof to me.
I'll post some notes on the tasting board.
I think this is better than the '93 with more kick and more flavor up front. Righteous Pour!!
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Paradox
10-19-2003, 15:46
Alright, so shoot me, I'm not having bourbon persay but an " American Whiskey (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=22294&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb= 5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1)" and I am loving it! Michters US1 Unblended American Whiskey... I've got a bottle of the new US1 Straight Rye on order as well so eventually I'll give that one a try too.

bluesbassdad
10-19-2003, 16:24
Buffalo Trace.

I've had this, my second bottle, unopened, for several months. I spotted it in my closet this afternoon while looking for a bourbon in the same price range as the Old Forester 100 that I drank earlier today (prompted by posts by TNBourbon and OneCubeOnly -- thanks guys!).

The nose of BT definitely produces less of a physical reaction (think "ammonia") than does the OF 100 -- hardly any, actually. I really have to work to get any distinct impressions at all. Perhaps fresh peaches and raisin bread toast. (Gee, I wonder what I wrote about BT the last time I tried it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )

On the palate it is creamy smooth, reminding me of some of the higher priced bottlings from BT. I always forget which of their bottlings share which mashbills, so I won't even go there. I get some kind of dark fruit, maybe plums, but with some tartness.

When swallowed, it produces far less tingle (aka, "angels dancing") than the OF 100. The sweet and dry are nicely in balance -- definitely no chalk here. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif If OF 100 is a manly, wild-west bourbon (a fair characterization, I think), then Buffalo Trace is the advent of law and order, school marms and horseless carriages.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

OneCubeOnly
10-19-2003, 16:54
Tonight it's Elijah Craig 12yo. I'm a relative newcomer to this one, and every time I taste it I'm convinced it's way underpriced (a good thing!) It may not be able to nudge out Buffalo Trace as my all-time favorite "diamond in the rough" bargain bourbon, but it's pretty close.

The first time I tasted EC12 I was so impressed I did a side-by-side with BT, and it was like trying to choose your favorite child--you love 'em both but for different reasons.

jeff
10-19-2003, 17:11
Since we're talking value bourbons here, I'm having a nice pour of Ancient Ancient Age 10yo. Tonight this is really hitting the spot. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bluesbassdad
10-19-2003, 17:24
The first time I tasted EC12 I was so impressed I did a side-by-side with BT, and it was like trying to choose your favorite child--you love 'em both but for different reasons.



Yeah, as if one of 'em is an NFL center linebacker and the other is a concert cellist! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

CL
10-19-2003, 21:16
Weller Centennial. Picked this up in WV on Thurs evening on my way to my parents' house along with Eagle Rare 17 yo. Gotta admit, the WC flavor is more interesting to me than the more expensive ER 17. I do like the ER 17, but I just don't get it. Maybe it will grow on me.

SteelerFan
10-20-2003, 05:12
A.H.Hirsch 16 yo.

This is my first taste of this great bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif
There aren't enough o's in smoooooth ! ( Col. Potter )
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SSBourbon1
10-20-2003, 05:42
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I am very embarassed. I was enjoying the VG Fox 90 so much wrote single barrel. It is actually SMALL BATCH....is is all small batch bourbon from them? Sorry for the mix up on that...my fault and too much of that fine elixir.

cornsqueezins
10-20-2003, 08:11
Last night it was Elijah Craig 12 yr. I was beside myself in euphoria! The little tag that comes with each bottle now brags about the Double Gold this bourbon recently won in SF....and rightfully so. I think this is the best EC I've had yet!

Tim, funny you should mention the LOTR trilogy. I've been doing the same thing: re-reading each book prior to the movie release. I'm about to get started on "Return of the King".

You were asking about "The Silmarillion".....it's a great book if you're a total Middle-Earth geekster. The stories basically recount the 3 ages of Middle-Earth with history and genealogies included. Good stuff if you enjoy that kind of thing. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

-Troy

pepcycle
10-20-2003, 11:09
CL
Weller Centennial Rocks.
I picked up a bottle on Saturday but did not open it due to consumption of EWSB '94.
I will state without hesitation, "There are no negative attributes to Weller Centenbnial".
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jeff
10-20-2003, 20:50
Well, with all the talk of the EWSB '94, I thought I would break out my last ottle of the '91, my current favorite. Now, I have had a couple pours of AAA 10yo prior to this that I have thouroughly enjoyed. My EWSB '91 is comming across as thin and slightly bitter. This is not what I remember. Are my tastes changing? Or is the AAA 10yo just that good? Well this is a good problem to have I guess, unlike the problem we have all had recently http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Barrel_Proof
10-20-2003, 21:32
Tonight, with the hope that civility and humor will "reign supreme" (that's an Iron Chef reference, if you missed it) for years to come on this board and in honor of the recent bottling of the last of Pennsylvania's second-finest bourbon, I'm enjoying a healthy pour of Hirsch 16yo, neat. Yeah, I know, life could be worse, right?

Thanks to you all for your continued friendship, good cheer, kick-ass attitude with a smile, and--most of all--for sharing with us all your discoveries and the mysteries in the world of bourbon. I toast you all, my friends!

CL
10-20-2003, 21:52
I never seem to be able to keep a bottle of either the 12 yo or the Centennial. Once they get opened, they tend to go quick. These bourbons are smooth, rich, sweet, flavorful. Extremely easy to drink yet bursting with flavor.

Consequently, I always buy a bottle of these when I find them out of state. (NC does not carry either.) I always want to have a bottle in the bunker, ready to go.

brendaj
10-21-2003, 11:00
Tim,


caramelier (!!)


Since I am still only able to discern a couple of flavours (I'm trying...I swear... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif) and caramel is one of 'em...this one deserves a place in the Bourbon Glossary of Terms... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
I gotta remember that,
Bj

Vinnie
10-21-2003, 21:29
Mmmmm....bourbon, I'm sipping some Blanton's. I just love the little horsey.

TNbourbon
10-21-2003, 21:45
I've been broadening my bourbon horizons for a few weeks, but just opened a new bottle of my original favorite -- W.L. Weller's Special Reserve 7yo. It still stands up pretty well, even after my recent forays into 'official' Van Winkle brands. I can't believe this stuff is under $15 a bottle (750 ml).

CL
10-21-2003, 22:11
ORVW 10 yo, 107. Good stuff. Seems a bit spicier tonight than normal, but, then again, I had Wathens and AAA 10 yo last night, so that's to be expected. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Bob
10-22-2003, 18:36
I'm not having ANY bourbon tonight. I don't even want to LOOK at any booze tonight, but here's what I had last PM...Stagg, 20 YO Pappy, Elmert T Lee, Sazarec Rye, Blanton's, Michter's US*1, Michter's Bourbon, Michter's Rye, Elijah Craig 18 YO, Bookers and Old Potero Single Malt and Straight Rye. I had a few Irish Whiskies as well as a few Single Malts. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jeff
10-22-2003, 18:36
Ridgewood 1792. This is a fantastic bargain of a bourbon, and quite possibly the nicest packaging on the market. A subtle green earthiness mixes nicely with the smooth vanilla and leather notes to create beautiful music on the palate. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Buckky
10-22-2003, 19:50
Henry McKenna Single Barrel...first time I have ever had this...jury is still out but definate characteristics of the Heaven Hill that it is....halfway between EWSB ('92 only one I have had) and Elijah Craig?? $24 bucks locally

Barrel_Proof
10-22-2003, 20:07
Barton's 1792, here, too.

It's great to see Barton--who's VOB has many champions here--enter the enthusiast market with such a stylish bourbon in such a handsome bottle. It's doubtful that the three I brought back from B'town will last 'til next year!

SteveZZZ
10-22-2003, 20:26
So far today, I've had EC12, MM, and WTRR.... I reserve judgement til the second or third tasting, but I think I understand this forum's feelings on Maker's Mark now. It's not bad in any way, but nothing about it really jumped out at me either... it seems to be a quality product but not an exceptional one. The other 2 bourbons, I enjoyed quite a bit. Up next is Eagle Rare single barrel, and that may be it for me tonight.

Steve

TNbourbon
10-22-2003, 21:31
I just had a couple of ounces of Weller's Special Reserve (a personal favorite), and now am chasing that with a like swig of Old Fitzgerald BIB. For some reason, I like eating a Tootsie Roll with the Old Fitzgerald -- anybody else find chocolate a good match for 100-proof bourbon?
Anyway, that's my limit for tonight.

CL
10-23-2003, 22:11
That's quite a list. How's your head? ;-)

CL
10-23-2003, 22:17
Christmas parties, bourbon, sugar cookies, and chocolate. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Also, my father-in-law suggested a Snickers one time to me. My friend loves Krispy Kreme. We tried both of them one night with bourbon (a long story leading up to that decision). The Snickers won for me, primarily due to its texture. It went very well. However, this does not say that the KK was bad. I just found them too light and fluffy to go well with bourbon. It was hard to savor them when they melted so quickly in my bourbon numbed mouth.

bluesbassdad
10-24-2003, 00:11
Booker's.

This is maybe my fifth or six taste of this bourbon, and I'm not very impressed, considering the price. Am I the only one who thinks it tastes exactly like Jim Beam white, only more so?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Bob
10-24-2003, 05:09
I was hurtin a bit on Wednesday. I couldn't wait to get home from the city and get back to bed! Slept away the whole day, and then I was as good as new!

SSBourbon1
10-24-2003, 05:57
Kentucky Pride 10year Small Batch. I had seen this just prior to moving to Virginia and thought it looked interesting because I didn't really know who made it (still don't but haven't looked into it). When I openned the bottle, the aroma of leather came across my mind. In a glass, it sweetened up with hints of carmel. (I am working on being able to identify more than just the basics but need to write them down as I go instead of trying to remeber these things the next day!) I enjoyed the glass thouroughly. One of those bourbons you can just let roll around in your mouth a little and take in the sensations. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Speedy_John
10-24-2003, 06:42
Not drinking it right now (8:30 a.m. is a little bit too early for me), but capped off a long day yesterday with a healthy pour of Van Winkle 15/107 while watching the Fish beat the Evil Empire. All I kept thinking while drinking it last night were two words: Liquid Toffee. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I'm generally not a big fan of wheated boourbons, but this is one of the few I really enjoy. Simply delicious stuff.

Unfortunately, it was the last pour of the bottle. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

But, more's available from the local store for $35 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

SpeedyJohn

brendaj
10-24-2003, 07:11
Dave,


Am I the only one who thinks it tastes exactly like Jim Beam white, only more so?



No Dave, I agree 100%. I'm not a fan of Beam's 3 B's...I don't feel like the extra price is worth the extra money for their premium bottlings. If I want the Beam profile, I'll drink Beam Black (IMHO, the best of Beam for the money).
Bj

jbutler
10-24-2003, 07:20
I realize we're heading a bit OT here CL, but try a dark Milky Way.

BTW it was Stagg and Birthday Bourbon for me last night. Not that I want to rain on the little lovefest the Dawg and Gillman have going, but in my opinion, this one's no contest, and the result is not in favor of the BF product. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

jeff
10-24-2003, 08:50
Stagg gets my vote too Jim as the "Supreme Ruling Bourbon of the Universe" http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

OFBB02 gets a #5 vote in my top list, behind Stagg, Kentucky Spirit, Pappy 20 and VWFRR. That's my story and I'm sticking to it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

MurphyDawg
10-24-2003, 08:57
I agree with you Dave, it is like an amped up JB white, and thats a really good thing. Just not good enough to justify the price. I may pay $35 again like I did in NH for mine (I dont feel I got screwed on that bottle) but I am surely not gonna pay the full OH $50.


TomC

MurphyDawg
10-24-2003, 09:01
Thats okay we will forgive you!( http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif). Everyone is entitled to their opinions.


Honestly I will do a side by side soon and articulate my opinions more fairly. I am jealous. Any night that includes even one of those bourbon heavyweights is a good night of drinking indeed, and so having both mustve been sumtithin special. May I ask, which B'day did you partake of?

TomC

MurphyDawg
10-24-2003, 09:06
Funny isnt it, because Stagg sits about 5-6 six on my list (ER 17, Kentucky Spirit, Van Winkle 10/107, Weller19. . .), though I dont think ther is a "Supreme Ruling Bourbon of the Universe" . And in my case I find that a good thing.


Tom (needs to pony up for a bottle of Pappy) C

Gillman
10-24-2003, 11:51
Jim, you would not be raining (which implies disagreement) but rather the opposite, i.e., agreeing with us, because we both (Tom and I) felt the Stagg was not all it was cracked up to be.

Gary

Jal
10-24-2003, 17:38
Hello All,
My first post here at Straightbourbon. Great site, and very informative. Lurking on this site helped me to purchase the bourbon I'm going to try tonite. Ancient Ancient Age 10 yr old. After a few sips, I am planning on pairing it with a Cuesta Rey Centrofino sungrown #60. (IMHO bourbon and cigars go together like oreos and milk...without the dunking of course http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif)

Paradox
10-24-2003, 17:48
Lurking on this site helped me to purchase the bourbon I'm going to try tonite. Ancient Ancient Age 10 yr old.



I guess http://www.whichbrowser.co.uk/forum/images/smiliesv2/lurk.gif does lead to good things! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif Really though, Thanks for signing on! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Tonight for me it's a glass of Stagg. I'm not having a whole lot tonight since I have to get up and drive to PA very early so I figured make that one glass something special.

jeff
10-24-2003, 18:05
Tonight I am having a Manhattan made with Old Forester 100. After the last couple days of making bourbon cocktails, I think that Old Forester 100 proof might just be the ultimate mixing bourbon. Nice high, full-bodied proof with lots of rye really stands up well to mixers. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

SteveZZZ
10-24-2003, 18:38
Its been a long week, so I'm relaxing my normal 2 drink limit this weekend... So far today I've had EWSB 92 (very good), WT12 (liquid happiness) and I just finished a small pour of Woodford Reserve... Not a really exciting bourbon to me, but very enjoyable anyways.

Steve

ratcheer
10-24-2003, 19:56
Old Grand Dad 86. Very pleasant, but nothing to wax poetic about. Nice flavor, but a little thin. Reminds me of Baker's but with less kick.

Tim

robbyvirus
10-24-2003, 23:52
I agree, Dave. Bookers never seemed very special to me...overpriced Jim Beam White, as you put it. It's like you're paying a premium only for the higher proof.

ratcheer
10-25-2003, 08:51
I tend to agree. While I like it a lot better than Beam white (it is probably in my top 25, but this is based on only two drinks), it is certainly not $50-good. To me, it is more like Knob Creek on steroids, probably worth about $36 on my value scale.

I have always wanted to buy a bottle, but not at the price it commands.

Tim

SteveZZZ
10-25-2003, 10:17
I enjoy Booker's quite a bit when I'm in that kind of mood. It doesn't happen very often, most of the time its just too strong for me, but its nice to have a high proof bourbon that I know I can replace easily when its empty. $50 a little much? Maybe, but a bottle goes a long way for me. Besides, I'm used to paying scotch prices...

Steve

jeff
10-25-2003, 18:29
I like Booker's a lot, but I tend to enjoy higher-proof bourbons. Boy was I in heaven on Thursday of the festival at Buffalo Trace http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif We can get it here in Lexington for about $36-$40 so it's not to much of a streach. And you're right, a bottle tends to go a long way http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

TheRoff
10-25-2003, 20:19
Tonight I am sipping my first bottle of Woodford Reserve, 90.4 proof. Now why they measure that .4 is beyond me. I have read the several threads here describing the bourbon here, and find my tasting agrees. Essentially it is a nice little bourbon. I get some caramel and orange in the nose, but that kind of disappears in the taste. It is smooth and pleasant with a tiny after taste. Ah, my wife liked it………

robbyvirus
10-25-2003, 23:52
Tonight I'm having a sip of Michter's Bourbon. While it's a pretty good bourbon, I paid about $50 for this bottle down at a store in Costa Mesa, California (the only place I've run across it), and frankly, I think that's overpriced for the taste. It has a hint of a "grassy" flavor, which I don't particularly care for. It's also just rather undistinguished in my book. Too bad, because the bottle is really cool looking.

furbis
10-26-2003, 11:27
I am currently trying some of the knob creek that I bought with the wild turkey 101, the knob creek seems to go down a little smoother and does not have as harsh of a finish or after taste. but I liked them both and will try some more WT later today.

what a fun way to spend a sunday afternoon, sippin bourbon and surfin the net http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif

bluesbassdad
10-26-2003, 13:59
I think I'll join you, but somewhat in reverse. Prompted by the periodic sale on WT101 at my local Rite-Aid ($12.99 -- can you believe it?), I've been drinking WT the last couple of days. Last night I needed a change, so I switched to Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel. Welp, that was too much change. Although the nutmeg/cinnamon taste was more pleasant than I recalled from my previous encounter, it was still a bit of a shock.

A taste of Knob Creek this afternoon sounds like just the ticket to edge back into the mainstream of bourbon flavor profiles. In the past I've liked KC only while in a bar, listening to a blues band. In the daylight I've found it a bit rough (except for that embarrasing time when I rated it ahead of my claimed favorite in a blind tasting http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif ). In short, I still have a way to go before I make up my mind about Knob Creek.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
10-26-2003, 16:59
Did I really say I might not like Knob Creek in the daylight? Or was that some other Dave?

This afternoon it tastes just like your basic bourbon ought to taste (you know, caramel, vanilla, sweet corn on the cob, yada-yada...) with the addition of cinnamon, wild cherry (as in Luden cough drops) and a light touch of newly tanned leather. I noticed last night that Trader Joe's has some more in at only $19.95. I guess I'd better pick up a back-up bottle.

And now I'm noticing that the finish is considerably more graceful (a gentle, lingering sweetness) than the WT101 I've been drinking lately, which really overdoes the tanned leather bit.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
10-26-2003, 17:04
I will wait a little while longer before going back to Knob Creek. To me, it is best enjoyed on very cool late fall evenings or icy winter evenings (or afternoons). As I said a year or two ago, the KC taste makes me daydream about being in a hunting lodge way back in the woods, with nothing else to keep you warm except a big fireplace.

It hasn't quite cooled down in these parts, yet.

Tim

ratcheer
10-26-2003, 17:06
Dave, I almost said "leather" in my last post about KC (just a minute ago, in this thread). That is part of what about KC evokes "hunting lodge" for me.

Tim

bluesbassdad
10-26-2003, 17:12
Sometimes I envy those of you who live in climates with distinct seasons. If I were to wait for cold weather before trying Knob Creek, it would never happen -- unless I ventured into the nearby mountains.

Today I'd guess the temperature touched 90 deg. F. here, all the while with ash from the numerous wildfires (the nearest, 25 miles away) drifting down from the sky, coating cars, sidewalks and slow-moving creatures.

A heavy snowfall, a medium drizzle, or even merely the cessation of the dry, hot winds (so-called "Santa Anas") would be a blessing for the firefighters and the many additional people who will lose their homes over the next few days.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

robbyvirus
10-26-2003, 18:00
It's about 90 degrees today in San Francisco as well, which is quite unusual up here...and because of that no one has air-conditioning, unfortunately. Still, we can be thankful there are none of the terrible fires up here that they're having down in the L.A. area. My heart goes out to those people...I was here ten years ago for the Oakland Hills firestorm, and that's a sight I will never forget.

Anyway, I'm kicking back today with a glass of AAA. This bourbon is very light to me, and to me it's most enjoyable on a hot day...very smooth and relaxing.

TheRoff
10-26-2003, 18:51
I am indeed sorry to hear about and read about those fires and winds in SOCAL, and the high temperature in SF (my favorite city). It is definitely warmer than usual here in Maryland for this time of year and its raining, again. However, that hasn’t stopped me from enjoying sips from my first bottle of Buffalo Trace 90 proof. Very nice. Lots of fruit in the nose and taste. Velvety aftertaste. At $12.99 a bottle, this is good stuff. I think a side by side tasting of this and Woodford Reserve is coming soon. I am enjoying this new hobby.

Buckky
10-26-2003, 19:16
I like it but Chuck Cowdery correctly stated, as always, that Jim Beam Black is Booker's at 90proof......so why not save money? Booker's is the only Small Batch in my top ten...only Baker's gets any further attention from me.

SteelerFan
10-26-2003, 20:39
OGD 114 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif I need something strong to help me get
my sleep cycle back on track. Maybe i'll follow this with a little Booker's http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

MurphyDawg
10-26-2003, 22:16
I am having Wathens tonight, one of the bourbons I think of as a winter warmer, as there will be no warmth out this way tonight! (low 33 high 47 tomorrow), though I will say I would much rather have the cold than a forest fire. . .


TomC

Vinnie
10-27-2003, 19:17
It's damn near perfect bourbon weather up here in Alaska. New snow on the ground,which will probaly linger til about April. I was glad to see Knob Creek on sale at the local store and picked up a bottle to keep me company. I highly recommend sipping bourbon while watching the northern lights dance across the sky. Without a doubt,one of lifes simple pleasures.

jeff
10-28-2003, 16:31
Started the evening with a small pour of Jefferson's and then moved on to a more generous glass of Wild Turkey 12yo. Wow, is this night and day or what? The Jefferson's was slightly hot and lifeless, while the WT12 is smooth, mellow and refined. My stash is getting low, guess I'll have to suck it up and buy those bottles soon.

CL
10-28-2003, 19:39
Baker's. It has become my go-to drink on the road when the best selection is Beam's small batch collection. I actually like this bourbon - it goes well neat in a snifter - it is somewhat light, sweet, and easy to drink. Plus, it's paid for with the expense account. (Heck, it better be for $10 a shot!) I don't think I would ever buy a bottle, though. In NC, it runs $35. I can think of many more bourbons I would buy for that or less before I would buy Baker's.

Right now, I am in the Westin in Santa Clara, CA, in the lobby bar using the free wireless with my business laptop. I just ordered a dim sum plate for dinner. I am out here for two days of worthless meetings. I need to catch up on my real work at night - no big deal - I am on the road and don't mind working at night. What better place to do it than in a bar with a bourbon at my side? Because I am in Silicon Valley, so it's not unusual for someone to have a laptop opened up in the hotel bar. And it's California, so I am not sitting in a haze of cigarette smoke. Better than being stuck up in the hotel room!