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MurphyDawg
10-29-2003, 00:37
All right guys (and gals)!! Tell me all about the best bourbon in the world (yep I mean the one you are drinking right now!!).

Tonight I am having VOB BIB. It is all bluster and spice, with just enogh corn sweetness to balnce it out just a little. Fabulous, and at only like $9-$10 a great buy!!


TomC

furbis
10-29-2003, 15:52
well it just so happens I am sippin a pour of my WT 101 and lovin it, but I am still a baby robin when it comes to bourbon so cant comment to much. I do think my next trip to the liqour store will be for another WT bourbon.

jeff
10-29-2003, 17:02
You might be a newbie, but you did pick a good bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif I started the evening with Pizza and a black and tan. I have since moved on to WT 101 as well. A staple of any self-respecting liquor cabinet, WT101 provides all the flavor and puch one could want in a bourbon. There is a lot in store for you when you discover WT bourbons. Enjoy the trip http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Gemini_Rose
10-29-2003, 17:51
I am enjoying a nice glass of 4 Roses Yellow Label that Mark & I acquired from the Lets Talk Bourbon at this year's festival. It is taking the edge off a hard day at work and helping me unwind for the evening!

CL
10-30-2003, 17:01
Heeeeeyyyyy, Jeeeffffff. Mmmmmmm. WT 12 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif This stuff is testing better all the time. Too bad I finished off the bottle tonight. That's ok. I have ANOTHER ONE in the bunker. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

voigtman
10-30-2003, 17:39
Not actually drinking right now (had a Saz 18 last night, though, and it was very fine). My favs thus far are Blanton's, WT 12, ER 10 and ORVW 15 (107 proof). Others I like are OCPR 13, VSOF 12, and OGD 114. I've got Hirsch 16 and 20 and Pappy 20 in the bunker, along with ER 17. And I'm still on the Stagg hunt, but, like another poster said, maybe I'm just not worthy of The Stagg. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Rye-wise, I like VWFR 13 and OROTR 12, along with the Saz 18. Very different ryes and all excellent. In fact, I like all the other ryes I've tried (Beam, Old Overholt, Pikesville Supreme) except for Old Potrero, which seems to rapidly become undrinkable after the bottle is open for a few days.
The only bourbon I dislike, thus far, is Maker's Mark: I find it harsh tasting, even downright bitter (I know, weird), and adding ice and a splash doesn't help much. Funny, because I REALLY wanted to like it and it was the first bottle I bought when I wanted to get more serious about fine whiskey. Fine company, good web site, etc., but I just don't like the standard red wax product. Ah well, different strokes ...
Ed

bandit
10-30-2003, 18:49
I'll bite. Er, sip...

Tonite it is Woodford. Chosen to match a Partagas Humitube,
that's been waiting a while. The Partagas is light-medium bodied
cigar with some light spicy notes from the camaroon wrapper.

It's pretty easy for a Bourbon to overwealm a mild
cigar, so the Woodford/Partagas seems a good match.

A first whiff of apples, then citrus, and pretty light,
not much tannin at all (ie, not Knob Creek). Doesn't seem
to want water added to this one...IMHO.

And all the cares of the day drift away in puffs and sips.

-AJ

TNbourbon
10-30-2003, 20:13
Not bourbon tonight, but Wild Turkey rye, in remembrance (for wont of a better word) of my first rye, the Van Winkle 13yo, which I finished bit-by-bit over the past month or so. I like it, so far. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if I don't like the couple of ryes I've had better than most of the bourbons. Strange, really, since my preference among the bourbons seems to run toward the wheated ones. Ain't no wheat in straight rye whiskey. Go figure!

Buckky
10-30-2003, 20:46
tonight it is Wild Turkey Rare Breed. I intended to buy something else when I went into the store...Ky Spirit...but they had a nice gift box of Rare Breed with two really nice tumblers with the WT logo for just the same price as a bottle. I like Rare Breed...excellent taste and an attractive bottle/wooden topped cork. Definately Spirit though the next time I get a WT.

CL
10-31-2003, 05:11
With a list like yours, you are definitely worthy of Stagg! If you can appreciate the bourbons you already have, Stagg will fit nicely along side them.

Actually, everyone is worthy of Stagg, it's just that many might be overwhelmed by it if they hadn't experienced alot of bourbons, including some higher proof ones. Case in point - I was at a work dinner on Wednesday night. One coworker was intrigued with my bourbon drinking, so I ordered him a Makers Mark neat. He enjoyed it, but when he tasted my WT 101 neat, it was too intense for him.

Paradox
10-31-2003, 19:41
I've been spending the night up at my parents and the only bourbon my dad has is a new 1.75L bottle of Maker's Mark I gave him a few weeks back. (I've had it for a while and wanted a reason to open it!) Being too lazy to go get anything else, I cracked the seal on it nonetheless.

Paradox
11-01-2003, 15:59
This is the weekend of 'open bottles you've had lying around far too long that you don't much care for .' Tonight it is Knob Creek. I've had this bottle for about 2 years now and never wanted to open it since not caring for the first bottle I had... Well tonight it got opened to drink on the rocks while watching season 4 of the Sopranos on DVD.

CL
11-01-2003, 20:33
In a toast to the Virginia Tech Hokies victory over Miami tonight, nothing but the finest - WT 12 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

BSEE, 83

SteveZZZ
11-01-2003, 20:44
WTRR.... was hoping to find that magic I found in the 12... its not quite there, but I'm still enjoying it quite a bit. I have to admit, I'm becoming quite a WT fan... next shopping trip I'm planning on grabbing Rare Breed and Kentucky Spirit... maybe even a couple of the standard bottlings too.

Steve

MurphyDawg
11-01-2003, 23:38
Very few things live up to the magic of Wild Turkey 12. Russell' Reserve is a mighty fine bourbon and one of my faves, but it isnt in WT 12s league, on the bright side it is 1/2 the price and widely available so I can enjoy it whenever I want. I might add the that the whole turkey line is great all the way down to the 101 (even the 80 proof is passable) which is a permanent fixutre at my abode.

TomC

SteelerFan
11-02-2003, 20:15
Ezra B 15 yo.
It's hard to believe this bourbon is 99 proof. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I get no burn from this bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

SteveZZZ
11-02-2003, 21:13
Tonight was John Lee Hooker night.... Elijah Craig 12yo, Johnnie Walker Gold Label, and Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale 2003. Not really sure why, but it seemed like a good idea.

Steve

CL
11-03-2003, 15:51
Anything John Hooker related is a good idea! Boom, boom, boom...a har har har.....

CL
11-03-2003, 15:54
Great stuff, isn't it? One of my favorites. I am somewhat surprised it doesn't get more attention here, but then again, that's ok, because there'll be more for me! (At least when I go to KY - can't get it in NC.)

MurphyDawg
11-03-2003, 16:01
Sitting on my back porch, on one of the nicest nights in a long time, I had a nice pour of Elijah Craig 18 Year, accompanying a A. Fuente Gran Reserva Rothchild. More details elsewhere. . .


TomC

jeff
11-03-2003, 17:24
Oh happy day, I cracked the seal on a fresh bottle of Weller 12yo. Is it wrong that this excites me as much as a new bottle of Stagg? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

CL
11-03-2003, 18:43
Maybe only a little bit.

The good thing about cracking open a bottle of Weller 12 yo is knowing that you can drink as much as you want - there's plenty available and it isn't expensive.

It's also wearing your favorite comfy shirt and leaving the Armani suit in the closet.

CL
11-03-2003, 18:43
Guess what you got me drinking now? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
11-03-2003, 20:05
Just tried Ancient Ancient Age 10yo for the first time, followed by a taste of the old Beam 7yo 90-proof Black Label (no longer produced -- now it's 80 and 8) -- I liked them both. Some differences, some similarities. More wisdom later (maybe!).

SteelerFan
11-04-2003, 04:12
Ezra B is like comfort food. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Nice and warm and friendly.
Easy to like and very satisfying. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

tommy
11-04-2003, 18:32
Tonight I'm drinking Van Winkle Special Reserve.

Tommy

CL
11-05-2003, 17:30
Cracker Jack! (For those new to our fun group, that's Old Fitz BIB.)

I have a confession to make. It took me a while to come to grips with this, but I have to face up to it. I am a wheater. I don't dislike bourbons with rye, but I can't stay away from the wheated bourbons for a daily pour. I just like that smooth, silky texture.

I am drinking the OFi BIB because I finished AAA 10 yo a few days ago. I was reminded tonight that AAA 10 yo is getting rare, but that doesn't bother me as long as I have OFi BIB. Thanks, HH and Bettye Jo!

jeff
11-05-2003, 19:11
Tonight I am having my first tastes of Hirsch 16yo. Really quite different from most bourbons I am familiar with. Lots of fruit with a little cinnamon spicyness on the finish. Very Nice. I have also recently opened a bottle of the 20yo Hirsch and enjoyed it very much as well. I haven't decided on a favorite yet. All in due time http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Buckky
11-05-2003, 19:15
Bulleit : Frontier Whiskey !!........it is good but my curiousity is satisfied and when this bottle is gone, I won't replace it for a long, long time.

TNbourbon
11-05-2003, 20:52
I'm a 'wheater', too, but I realized it almost right away. Like you, I have nothing against rye-flavored bourbons -- in fact, I like straight rye whiskey (Van Winkle, Wild Turkey) every bit as much as bourbon. And I've managed to deplete most of my liter of Old Fitz BIB. Funny, I don't ever really ever relish pouring it, but then (as I've mentioned here elsewhere) I couple it with a fresh, soft Tootsie Roll or Kraft caramel and wind up going back for a second pour.

Blackkeno
11-05-2003, 21:09
Got word my Hirsch 16 ships tomorrow, so I poured some of my current bottle. I followed up that with a pour of Blanton's. This is some good stuff. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

jeff
11-06-2003, 17:07
Weller 12yo again tonight. Wow am I getting green apples in the nose tonight. I almost don't want to take the first drink and risk losing that smell. Here goes...Well, just as I suspected... THIS BOURBON ROCKS http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

kitzg
11-06-2003, 18:43
Heh, Heh,
You are on to my regular pour now! The one bourbon I keep back-up bottles of.

Greg

CL
11-06-2003, 22:21
How funny. I stole a Tootsie Roll from my son's Halloween stash while having some more OFi BIB tonight. But, my favorite is still Snickers.

I bought this bottle of OFi BIB back in July in KY. I don't know how I held off opening it until this week. It's a liter bottle, but it's going down too fast. Next time, I'll get a 1.75L.

Let's see, 1.75L of Weller 12 yo, OFi BIB, Buffalo Trace. I think that would cover my daily pour needs for a while. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MurphyDawg
11-06-2003, 22:50
Well Gawlee! I had Weller 12 as well. It seems very fruity (like a bag of mixed berries) to me tonight. This one is definately a gem!

TomC

brendaj
11-07-2003, 09:20
CL,


I have to face up to it. I am a wheater


http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif


I was reminded tonight that AAA 10 yo is getting rare


Awwwww man, say it isn't so. I am finishing my first bottle, and it's really excellent stuff. Elmer T. and Jim Butler both mentioned this Bourbon to me at the Festival, so I grabbed a bottle.
Bj

MurphyDawg
11-07-2003, 22:52
It better not be, It is probably the bourbon I drink most often. If this is really the case I will have to bunker SEVERAL 1.75 liter jugs next time I can get some.

TomC

Paradox
11-08-2003, 15:39
Tonight I was just in the mood for something different... So Manhattans it is made with, of all things, Makers Mark; Minus the bitters w/ 2 cherries. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif Not too bad, though I think a nice ryed bourbon makes a slight nicer Manhattan.

Jal
11-08-2003, 16:39
I'm going to sit out on the porch with a glass of Rare Breed and a Fuente 858 nattie. Little nippy out there, so Im gonna bundle up and watch whats left of the eclipse.

Paradox
11-08-2003, 16:42
Damn, I forgot all about that. Enjoy though! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif I'm now drinking Manhattans made with Rare Breed mymself since I don't have access to my dad's MM. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Black85L98
11-08-2003, 17:26
Elijah Craig 12YO

I guess this is the answer 90% of the time. This is great stuff.

TheRoff
11-08-2003, 18:42
As the learning novice, I bought a bottle of Eagle Rare (10 year old) and simple Ancient Age today, and have had a sip of both. I can say that neither knocks my socks off. Some nice citrus in the AA but it seems kind of dry on the finish. I am learning that I seem to prefer higher proof bourbons.

Jal
11-08-2003, 18:57
Damn, I forgot all about that.



You didnt miss much, Mark. Just looked like varying cycles of a quarter moon while I was watching. But DAMN it was cold out on that porch. 30 degrees by the thermometer out there. The single ice cube I had in my 3 fingers of RB never completely melted!
I swapped the 858 for a Ashton VSG Belicoso to save on some time (cuz I was cold!). Great cigar, but the burn left a lot to be desired. I dont think my lighter liked the sub-freezing temp either, because it didnt want to ignite properly.
I'm ready for spring http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jeff

jeff
11-08-2003, 20:14
Tonight I popped the cork on a new bottle of Eagle Rare 17yo. This is fantastic bourbon and a value IMHO. One of my top 5 easily http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

CL
11-08-2003, 20:16
First, I finish my bottle of Weller 12 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Then, Virginia Tech blows their game with Pittsburg - with 5 min left to go in the game at Pitt with a 4 point lead, the VT coaching staff calls three sideline plays in a row, stopping the clock after each one. That cost us almost 1.5 min that we could have run off the clock. I told my son right then that those calls might have cost us the game. Pitt scored a touchdown at 47 sec left to take the lead. I don't mind geting beat, but I hate losing due to stupid decisions. As my Dad would say, Dangnabit! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gif

Buckky
11-08-2003, 20:53
a couple of nice pours of ORVW Reserve Rye...

robbyvirus
11-08-2003, 23:21
No lunar eclipse out here in San Francisco, since it's been raining all evening. So I stayed in and had a healthy pour of Blanton's. A great solid bourbon that never lets me down.

SSBourbon1
11-09-2003, 10:42
Finally bought a bottle of Eagle Rare 10 year and enjoyed my pour. Very mellow bourbon, good for the relaxation I needed after partially finishing a grouting project in the kitchen.

Paradox
11-09-2003, 12:10
Me and the Mrs. are spending the night in Atlantic City tonight and right now I am enjoying a very generous pour of Rare Breed while enjoying the view from the windows in the room. What a beautiful day we are having here today!

SteelerFan
11-09-2003, 17:55
A.H.Hirsch 16 yo. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

bluesbassdad
11-11-2003, 14:47
Old Rip Van Winkle, 20 Years Old, Lot "sam's" [sic], 133.4 proof, Bottled May 23, 2003. About a half-ounce in my Glencairn blender's glass.

Unlike other barrel-proof bourbons I've tried, this one doesn't cry out for the addition of water. In fact, the nose is so sweet, spicy and round that I fear adding water could only detract from the experience. However, on the palate the alcohol burn becomes noticeable, and then I'm tempted to add water, perhaps to lower the proof to no less than 107 or so. At that proof I noticed no burn at all from ORVW 10/107.

I may discover that the best way to enjoy this masterpiece is to use two glasses simultaneously, one full strength for nosing and one with water for sipping.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
11-11-2003, 15:49
Tonight its a glass of Rare Breed straight. I enjoy Rare Breed, even more than KY Spirit, but I would still take Russell's Reserve over the two.

HGB3
11-11-2003, 16:03
This is my first post, and while I'm drinking Old Weller Antique (starts sweet, ends dry) has anyone noticed that at the bottom of the label it says "Original Old Line Sour Mash" instead of Original Old Time Sour Mash? Or is it just my bottle? Or my eyes? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

jeff
11-11-2003, 17:22
The other night I was espousing the joys of a newly opened bottle of ER17yo. While I am sure this is still a wonderful bourbon, right now it sucks. I guess I should mention that my previous two drinks were Stagg '03 75/25 with water. I don't know if even Kentucky Spirit could stand up to the Stagg http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

TNbourbon
11-11-2003, 19:18
Tonight I'm finishing up the last pour from a half-pint of the old, no-longer-bottled Jim Beam Black 90-proof 7yo. Best 'regular' Beam I've had (though I like the current 8yo Black label okay, too). I found this bottle and a 750 ml bottle a week ago in an older liquor store.

robbyvirus
11-11-2003, 21:46
Right now I'm drinking a sip of Wathen's, and before that I had a nip of Kentucky Spirit. Not a bad double header!

bluesbassdad
11-12-2003, 02:26
After a couple of tiny sips of ORVW 20 year-old "sam's" bottling in the afternoon, I selected Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve to accompany my evening TV viewing. In comparison to the 20 year-old VW, the WT RR is merely a nice little bourbon, but one that I try never to be without.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

longash4me
11-12-2003, 07:58
Last night a Punch SS#2 and three fingers of Weller Centennial, A massive explosion of flavor! Tonight, whatever is behind door # 3. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Herf_Daddy
11-12-2003, 13:09
I have been drinking a bottle of Old Forester 100 BIB that I have seen touted on the board. Very nice, full flavored pour.

bandit
11-12-2003, 14:51
I have been drinking some Old Forester (86) last couple of nights. First time I tried it. Not bad. I have a cold, so I won't give a detailed report. Hopefully what I report will be that it cured my cold!

Anyone got a cold cure?

-AJ

bluesbassdad
11-12-2003, 14:55
AJ,

Just keep doing what you're doing, and I guarantee your cold will go away. That will be $50, please. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Remember, nature cures you, but the doctor sends you a bill anyway. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave "Absolutely No Medical Training Whatsoever" Morefield

bluesbassdad
11-12-2003, 15:12
Van Winkle Family Reserve 12 Years Old, Lot "B" (90.4 proof).

After yesterday's confrontation with the ORVW 20 y/o barrel proof Sam's bottling, I may need to recalibrate my taster. At first impression, this bottling is gentle to a fault.

Thinking back to my first Van Winkle experience, the ORVW 10/107, I recall being enveloped by the nose the second I pulled the cork. Even in my Glencairn blender's glass, the Lot "B" invites deep, rapid sniffing to plumb its apparent subtleties.

On the palette it seems to be mainly fruit and spice instead of the nutty, oily taste (a la Walnettos) I recall from the 10/107.

If I still perceive it this way in a day or two, a one-on-one with the ORVW 10/107 will be called for. Perhaps I expected a family resemblance where there is none.

Hmmmm... Now that a few minutes have elapsed, I'm getting a more assertive nose. Maybe there's something to that let-it-breathe thing, after all.

I bought [my first] two bottles of this at $25.64 during Sam's October Warehouse Clearance Sale. I'm starting to think I should have bought more, especially at that price.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
11-12-2003, 15:23
I bought a bottle of the Lot B during the sale almost a year ago too Dave and was impressed with it. It's one I don't see on many store shelves even when Old Rip is there, but it is still a great bourbon.

Oh yeah, tonight it'll be a pour of Hirsch 20 followed by Rare Breed.

MurphyDawg
11-12-2003, 16:17
WL Weller 19 = Fantastic.


I had some this afternoon with a Fuente Hemingway. It was great!

TomC

bluesbassdad
11-12-2003, 17:28
I just now checked the website for Park Avenue Liquor, thinking they had it listed. Wrong. On top of that they want $54 for ORVW 15/107. If that price is indicative of their prices on other products, then there must be a more reasonably priced outlet in your vicinity.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
11-12-2003, 19:04
Heh, heh. One of my favorite The Beverly Hillbillies episodes was the one where the city doctors had heard of Granny Clampett's cure for colds and were seriously investigating it as a possible valid folk remedy. They chased her for most of the episode, but got nothing out of her. Of course, her "remedy" was simply her white lightning homemade whiskey.

Finally, the doctors pinned Jed down to tell them something about it. "So, Granny really has a cure for a cold?" "Yep." "And it really works?" "Yep, every time." "Tell us more about how you take it." "Well, you just take a dose of Granny's medicine and go to bed. Then, in about a week, your cold is gone." http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tim

SSBourbon1
11-12-2003, 19:19
My wife unpacked one of the few boxes left from our move and put Weller Special Reserve on to my bourbon shelf. I looked at the bottle and sighed because there was very little left. I have enjoyed it tonight and realize that I have enjoyed every bottle of Weller I have had...the Special Reserve (7yrs old) the 10 year bottle I have and the 19 year that I just got. Man, this is good stuff. Love the sweet aromas caramel, toffee and the way it just roalls right down http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. I am going to see if the ABC carries this so I can get more!

Paradox
11-13-2003, 04:20
I am going to see if the ABC carries this so I can get more!



If you can still get the Weller 19 stock up now, it's no more... What an excellent bourbon it is.

bluesbassdad
11-13-2003, 15:17
Buffalo Trace.

I think my taster is off today. First a sip of Wathen's didn't excite me; now it's the same with BT -- although I am enjoying just nosing it.

Could it be that drinking VW products two days in a row has spoiled me? Forever?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
11-13-2003, 15:23
Could it be that drinking VW products two days in a row has spoiled me? Forever?




Now that is very possible Dave, but I don't know since even Wathen's isn't exciting you. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif I so like that bourbon especially at sale prices.

Tonight for me its the last bit of some Eagle Rare 10 year 101 I have. Also a great bourbon for its price. There are some great finds out there that will not run your wallet dry.

Gillman
11-13-2003, 15:32
I think, Dave, you have been affected by the age factor of VW products. As good as Wathen and Trace are, the relative youth of these whiskeys will contrast quite evidently to a spate of rich, older whiskeys such as VW represents.

Gary

jeff
11-13-2003, 16:42
I strated off with the final sips of a bottle of WT101. That bottle served me quite well. Now I am into a healthy pour of ORVW 12yo rye. I have it on good word that I have some more on the way, so I'm a little looser with my current bottle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Jal
11-13-2003, 17:26
Tonight ,after the kids are in bed, it's AAA 10yo, neat. Relax in front of the tube and unwind.

CL
11-13-2003, 17:29
Jimbo is to blame - Ezra B 15 yo SB. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

SSBourbon1
11-13-2003, 18:16
I'll be sampling a new purchase of ORVW 13 year rye, never had a true rye and know that this is one of the best out there by what everyone says. I like the aroma and the first sip was good as well. I'll know more al ittle later, I'm sure.

TNbourbon
11-13-2003, 19:54
It'll be interesting to note your take on the rye. I'm a relative newbie among bourbonites, and I like the variety of ages, flavors, styles, etc. -- but I was pleasantly surprised when I finally tried straight rye. I, too, started with the VWFR 13yo, and have also enjoyed my-now-half-empty WT rye. I'm beginning to suspect I prefer it to the bourbon, though the lack of available similar variety is a bit disheartening.

SSBourbon1
11-14-2003, 04:12
I think that I have to give the rye a chance. I noticed a peppery aroma as I kept nosing my pour of VWFR 13 and did eventually find some sweetness. I am not sure if it is because my sinuses are pretty stuffed up right now or not, but I did not notice the complexity of bourbons, which I have become acustomed to, in this rye. I know that it is a rye and not a bourbon and should have expected this, I plan to drink it throughout the week and give it a chance because it seems very different from what I am used to. The jury is still out for me.

Dave_in_Canada
11-14-2003, 11:36
TN and SSB: Give the Wild Turkey Rye a good go... you won't be disappointed (IMHO)!!

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jal
11-14-2003, 13:35
I had my first pour of OFBB spring version this afternoon. Fantastic! I think I may have a new favorite. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Buckky
11-14-2003, 19:09
out of curiosity I bought a pint bottle of Jack Daniels #7. I haven't had this in years and I was wondering if with the new bourbon appreciation I have acquired in the past couple of years...in no small part due to SB...how JD would now rate. In a word...simple. very little nose, light taste, no wood at all, no "length" to its taste...in short it was very simple. too beat all though it was relatively expensive...$10.50 locally for a pint bottle. For $11 bucks I can get a FIFTH of Old Forester 86, or a fifth of Evan Williams...on an occasional run to Ky I can get AAA10 yr for 11bucks or Very Old Barton for less than 10 etc etc. What is the attraction??? there marketing is relentless and effective...and every bar I have EVER been in has it.......in my perfect world every bar would have Buffalo Trace...

TNbourbon
11-14-2003, 19:37
For whatever it's worth (as I am not a Jack Daniel's fan myself): whatever you think about it now -- forget about it. They start bottling it at 80-proof after Jan. 1 (it's currently 86 proof), according to what they've told distributors. Seems bound to change it somehow.

ratcheer
11-14-2003, 19:57
Back in the day, it was 90 proof. So, this is the second cut that I know of.

Tim

Buckky
11-14-2003, 19:59
actually this pint(375) was 80 proof...I was surprised...but not having drank it for such a long time I didn't know if this was standard nor when it may have changed....the store I bought this in is very large so it might be getting some of the "newer" variety of JD sooner than others.

OneCubeOnly
11-14-2003, 19:59
They start bottling it [Jack Daniels] at 80-proof after Jan. 1



What in the heck are they thinking!? They've got a commanding lead of the spirits market, and now they want an extra '6-proof' profit margin? I guess they never heard of New Coke!?

Actually, most JD fans I know drink it as shots or mix with it, so maybe they're hoping nobody will notice!

texascarl
11-14-2003, 20:23
Jim Beam - Black Label, and a glass of my own 'mingled' 86 proof batch. Good stuff.

bobbyc
11-14-2003, 20:32
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

They start bottling it [Jack Daniels] at 80-proof after Jan. 1




To the layman it also means that around 36 million of the 700 million cases of that that they bottle each year can now be filled from the water source at Lynchburg. Brilliant, absolutely Brilliant! Do they charge to tour Jack Daniels yet?


<font color="red"> Good God Give George Garvin Brown Some </font>

MurphyDawg
11-14-2003, 22:54
Woodford Reserve Distillers Select.

Its all caramel and vanilla and butter pecans with an nice spicy teist on the end.


A great sippin whiskey!

TomC

Paradox
11-15-2003, 04:31
So I guess they'll pull the green label off the shelves since the Green label JD is 80 proof. Not like I care much about JD but how stupid... Like others have said, they have a commanding lead in the spirits market for your average drinker...

OneCubeOnly
11-15-2003, 04:41
Gosh, here we go with those pesky proof/abv calculations again! Wouldn't a 6-proof change translate to a 3% abv change? So, adding an additional 3% water would be .03x700 million = 21 million (not 36 million) cases...wouldn't it!?

Is my math screwy, or am I just picking nits?

ratcheer
11-15-2003, 06:15
Yes, your math is a little off. It is not a 3% change. It is 6/86 or 3/43 (the original value was 86 proof, not 100 proof). This represents a 6.97% reduction from the original base. So, for the stated sales of 700,000,000 cases, the correct answer would be about 48,837,209 cases of water!

Of course, I'm picking nits, too. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Tim

ratcheer
11-15-2003, 06:17
You are so right, Tom. WR is candy! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Tim

Paradox
11-15-2003, 07:22
What kind of candy would that be guys? I want to remember never to buy it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

OneCubeOnly
11-15-2003, 09:50
Yes, you math is a little off. It is not a 3% change. It is 6/86 or 3/43 (the original value was 86 proof, not 100 proof). This represents a 6.97% reduction from the original base. So, for the stated sales of 700,000,000 cases, the correct answer would be about 48,837,209 cases of water!



That can't be right, because you're going from 43% by volume to 40% by volume. The 6.97% might reflect a change in how much total water used compared to BEFORE, but not by total volume.

Let's simplify things a little, and assume we're making a straight alcohol-to-water mixture (ie. ultra-pure vodka). We'll also have to assume (which isn't entirely true) that alcohol and water have the same volume. (alcohol and water DO NOT mix equally, so we're simplifying again--1 cup water plus 1 cup ethanol does not yield 2 cups of mix, and there's also that pesky eutectic phenomenon, which we'll also ignore.)

Anyway, an 86 proof drink has (again, using our slight simplifications) 43% alcohol, 57% water. For 700mil cases, .57x700mil = 399 mil cases of the mix are Lynchburg water.

An 80 proof bottling has 60% water or .6x700mil = 420mil cases of water.

420mil - 399mil = 21mil cases of additional water needed.

Aren't nits fun? Watch...we're probably BOTH dead wrong!
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bobbyc
11-15-2003, 15:24
I based my calculations on a 5.16% change. Now however I don't know how I got there. At 3% or over 6% it is a hell of a lot of water, which is the intended point, water that isn't distilled from a grain mixture, mellowed, loaded into barrels costing 136 bucks apiece, at 52 gallons a pop, age in valuable rickhouse space, for some number of years.

John Ed Pearce in " Nothing Better In The Market" says they were told to only cut prices under the sharpest nessessity, and to cut Quality under no circumstances. They had a committee system by which, " Many Minds were brought to Bear" on a problem. I guess they have folks there who are patting themselves on the back for coming up with this idea. ( It's been done before by others) I will stop crying foul if the price is reduced by 3-6 % . That seems fair to me.
I'm not holding my breath for that.


<font color="brown"> Good God Give Tal Farlow Some </font>

bluesbassdad
11-15-2003, 16:27
Knob Creek. Using my "From my cold, dead hands" (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=General&amp;Number=21121&amp;F orum=All_Forums&amp;Words=hands%20morefield&amp;Match=And&amp; Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=19630&amp;Sear ch=true#Post21121) tall-boy shotglass.

I wish I could make up my mind about KC. I alternate between "Never again!" and "What was I thinking?" This afternoon, as I'm finishing the bottle (with only two healthy pours), it tastes good enough to make me want to replace this bottle ($19.95 at Trader Joe's).

Come to think of it, the skinny shotglass may be relevant. If... OK, "when" I buy another bottle, I should really do a glassware comparison.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
11-15-2003, 18:19
Maybe its caramel vanilla butter pecan candy!

I don't know, but I love it. Its not my top favorite (but its cousin, OFBB, is), but its certainly in my top 15.

Different strokes.....

Tim

texascarl
11-15-2003, 19:33
If they notice that we've noticed, they can safely reduce the price for a short time to keep their profit margin the same. But watch it creep back up to the current price with no one noticing.

Back on topic: Tonite's bourbon is a Wild Turkey Rye Manhattan.

mike1
11-16-2003, 13:04
Two years ago when I was at the Bourbon Festival I was in one of the larger liquer stores in Bardstown. Asking the owner about the change Brown Forman had made to change Early Times from a Bourbon to a Kentucky Whiskey he commented that Brown Forman were 'whiskey whores'.Maybe that is all there is to it in there relentless drive to produce and prosper

Buckky
11-16-2003, 18:03
last night it was Jim Beam Black...not as good as I remember...its nose said BEAM...pleasant and inoffensive and easy to drink but nothing outstanding...$18 locally... Chuck Cowdery says this is Booker's at 90 proof...Bookers is 50 bucks around here so I only get one or two at restaurants and have never bought a bottle...but I would rather get those occasional drinks than buy the JB Black in bottle again anytime soon...

TNbourbon
11-16-2003, 19:06
The Jack Daniel's Green Label #7 (marketed in only a handful of states) is another interesting story. We were wondering how it is different from the JD Black #7 one day and decided to email the company and ask. While I can't recall the name of the respondent from memory, his response was very memorable: the JD Green Label is the same as the Black Label (except for proof -- 80 vs. 86 -- though that only until January) except that the tasters didn't think it met their standards for Black. Simple as that. It's just (even more?) inferior Jack Daniel's Black.

ratcheer
11-16-2003, 19:24
Well, may be, but that wouldn't explain Old Forester Birthday Bourbon.

Tim

bluesbassdad
11-17-2003, 15:15
Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel.

I've commented somewhat negatively about this bottling in the past. However, as I'm about to finish this bottle, I find the quirky taste (nutmeg, etc.) intriguing -- an interesting contrast to what I consider the mainstream flavors. Forgive me Mr. Lee, but it's the kind of drink I might keep toward the back of the shelf for the occasional change of pace, next to the s----h. I'll probably buy another bottle, but not right away.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Paradox
11-17-2003, 15:26
2nd glass and last bit of my Michter's US1. I really enjoyed the whole bottle. When the rest of the crew was over the other night Cliff wasn't too impressed with it and Bob, after some time, said it was ok but he would pass on buying a bottle probably. I really don't know how Chris felt about it. Everyone was shocked by the nose as I remember though. Just shows to each is own... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

SteelerFan
11-17-2003, 19:34
OGD 114
My favorite High Octane pour. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
11-17-2003, 19:35
My first experience with Eagle Rare Single Barrel tonight -- I think I have a new candidate for my favorites' list. The nose is really subtle -- it takes a long time in the glass to give up much -- and the palate hides at first sip, but explodes about mid-palate and blossoms into a long, rich, satisfying finish. My first impression was this is a bourbon which adopts the best parts of single-malt Scotch -- the floral sweetness of a Speyside, and a touch of smokiness -- and combines it with the flavor of Kentucky corn and white oak caramel and vanilla. A very good, complete whiskey, especially for the price (under $30).

robbyvirus
11-17-2003, 22:20
Rowan's Creek. I picked up this bottle when I was in Atlanta last spring and haven't touched it for a few months. But I'm glad I've gone back to it as I'm enjoying it quite a lot tonight. It has a dark color, and a rich, woody taste that has a hint of carmel. Definitely worth checking out if you like a stronger tasting bourbon.

SSBourbon1
11-18-2003, 04:36
Last night, I cracked open my bottle of ORVW 15 yr 107. Had to celebrate that my wife and I found out that we are going to have a boy (due date March 17....hmmm St Patrick's day and his dad likes whisky what a coincidence) I had bought this bottle prior to moving and man was it good. A strong yet sweet aroma and the taste was fantastic. An excellent choice for a celebratory drink. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bobbyc
11-18-2003, 13:28
Had to celebrate that my wife and I found out that we are going to have a boy



Here Here! Congrats! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

<font color="brown"> Good God Give Steve Tyler &amp; Joe Perry Some! </font>

Dave_in_Canada
11-18-2003, 17:32
we are going to have a boy (due date March 17....hmmm St Patrick's day



Hey, that's cool, congratulations. My youngest son was bornon March 17th, and my oldest son is named Scott. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Good luck to both you and your wife.

Dave

PS.... OH, and ORVW 15/107 was what I was pouring last night too! Good stuff, especially with just a wee splash of water!

Dave_in_Canada
11-18-2003, 20:09
To start:
ER 17. nice and dry... a fine appetizer.

Entreé:
Bookers with a splash of water. A full meal.

Dessert: WT 101. Nice and fruity, fully satisfying.

Now for the night cap. Hmmmmmmm, what will it be?

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CL
11-18-2003, 21:33
Well, it's not Cracker Jack! I am having that tonight (Old Fitz BIB).

CL
11-18-2003, 21:39
Congratulations! Good luck in the coming months. Take it from a semi-old fart - enjoy your kid(s) as much as you can while they are young.

I am enjoying my 10 yo son alot now. I am still a cool guy to him (he wants to go to my college and work for my company!), but it won't be too much longer before he'll grow up and start gaining his independence. I am going miss these days.

MurphyDawg
11-19-2003, 15:39
Good God Give Steve Tyler &amp; Joe Perry Some!





Hmmmmmm. . . .I think they may have had enough already. . .


BTW I had EWSB '93 today, really nice, note coming soon!

TomC

tommy
11-19-2003, 16:30
Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year 90 proof, for the third time this week. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif I can't wait to try the higher proof versions!

Paradox
11-19-2003, 16:33
Tonight it's Hancock's President's Reserve Single Barrel (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=23721&amp;page=0&amp;view=col lapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1). I am really enjoying this bourbon and wish more people would talk about it, it is deserving of more mention. My only wish would have been to get another bottle or 2 while in KY. It was about $15 less there than here in NY! While I like it, I will not spend the $50 price tag it carries in the city...

MurphyDawg
11-19-2003, 16:40
Next time I trek to Covington, I will buy a bottle and give it the special treatmen it deserves. It just seems to get lost in the shuffle among all those Single Barrel Offerings from Buffalo Trace (Rock Hill Farms, Blantons, Eagle Rare 10, etc). Maybe we shouldnt let it suffer that fate. honestly I can say I have tried that bottling yet, but it will be on my list to buy now.

TomC

MurphyDawg
11-19-2003, 16:42
As much as I adore the higher proof bottlings by van winkle (and weller &amp; Fitzgerald for that matter), 90 proof seems to be a good point to accentuate the smooth roundness of wheated bourbon. "Lot B", VSO Fitz 12 are among the real taste treats of wheaters at around ninety proof, smooth sippin whiskey.

TomC

bandit
11-19-2003, 17:51
I got a bottle of ORVW 10/107 recently and am thinking I really like it. Compared to weller 7/107 its got less bite and more fruit--pretty yummie.

Tonite, its Wild Turkey Rye... how's that for different!

First drink was caught me off guard. Got used to it during the refill, and am now appreciating its rye-ee goodness.

Cheers!

-AJ

robbyvirus
11-19-2003, 22:57
Tonite started with Weller Centennial and has moved on to Wathens. Two VERY different bourbons, both EXCELLENT! Life is good!

MurphyDawg
11-19-2003, 23:16
Two very different bourbons, but they kinda seem like a logical progression to me. Weller Centennial seems the least "Wheater-Like" of all said bourbons I have tried, and then you just keep gaining intensity as you pour wathens. Oh, maybe I think that way because they are bottled in the same shaped flask. . .


LOL
TomC

SSBourbon1
11-20-2003, 05:07
Thanks to Bobby, Dave in Canada and CL for your congrats. We are very happy about the news. It'll give our daughter (who'll be two in about 3 weeks) somebody else to play with and I'll finally have another guy around the house. I think that will be good in the future!

Any way, I am going through my VW collection right now, I think. Tried the ORVW Rye and truly enjoyed it last night, maybe the bottle just needed to breath a little or my cold left me. That was very smooth stuff and had a citrus and peppery flavor. Very different from what I am used to,but very good.

TNbourbon
11-20-2003, 19:28
My Eagle Rare Single Barrel is really growing on me. And that about describes the experience of it, too. It begins so subtly you're tempted to climb into the glass after it, then explodes with flavor, warmth and a blossoming finish. And, afterward, the empty glass gives off more aroma than the new pour, tempting just another, small taste. (Oh, all right!)

robbyvirus
11-20-2003, 22:38
Good point about the shape of the bottles. I hadn't noticed that. Interesting that I didn't move on to Elmer T. Lee!!

MurphyDawg
11-21-2003, 01:21
Tonight I finally cracked the seal on my bottle of 1792. This is one interesting whiskey. The nose is deep and rich and woody. Suprisingly, I dont get much of the wood on the palate, I got a medium-big, round whiskey in my mouth with lots of fresh cracked nut flavor. Also on the fromnt of my toungu I get young sweetness, almost like white dog. The finish is all Barotn though, with the rye kicking in nicely (very much like that great VOB BIB finish). This one is a gem and I hope they do expand into Ohio, I want more already!!

TomC

PS despite me dogging on it a little before, I reallly like the packaging on this bourbon, as it really plays to how special this whiskey really is.

OneCubeOnly
11-21-2003, 04:32
Last night it was EC12. Lately that's been my serious 'go-to' bourbon when I can't quite decide on the mood. Remember when people were talking about it having different flavors on different nights? Well last night the pour kept shouting "MINT!" Not the menthol/rye thing, but more of an "add simple syrup to me and you'll have a julep" kind of taste.

Oh, and no, I hadn't just brushed! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

doubleblank
11-21-2003, 06:55
Last night was a triple header....one cigar and two bourbons. I smoked a Gispert (Honduras) first with ORVW 10/107 and then opened up the '03 Stagg (added a little H20 and one ice cube). Both were great. The Stagg is all over the map with flavors.... a real fiesta going on in the nose and mouth.

DoubleBlank

SSBourbon1
11-21-2003, 13:15
Last night I dipped intp a bottle that has been collecitng dust. Basil Haydens. It was like drinking slightly sweetened water. I used to really like it. Now it is good, jsut not so flavorful like all of the others I have been dipping into lately. I enjoyed it and relaxed and will enjoy it again, when I want something simple.

ratcheer
11-21-2003, 16:18
Hence, the moniker "brown vodka". I didn't coin it, but I agree with it.

Tim

robbyvirus
11-21-2003, 20:36
Kentucky Spirit. I'm near the end of the bottle on this one (alas!) but I've noticed an interesting phenomenon, and I'm trying to figure out if it's in my head or not. This bourbon seems "mellower" than when I started the bottle, and I'm wondering if it's "breathed" or if some of the alcohol has evaporated, making it slightly less proof, and thus taking away some of the burn. Anyone have any thoughts on this...does some of the alcohol evaporate from nearly empty bottles of bourbon?

OneCubeOnly
11-22-2003, 05:23
Anyone have any thoughts on this...does some of the alcohol evaporate from nearly empty bottles of bourbon?



Got that replacement bottle handy? Next time do a side-by-side of the new bottle vs. the depleted one. (Of course, this may not be as accurate with KS due to barrel differences!) Some s****h drinkers are definitely convinced that an open bottle changes character, and even go so far as to split their bottles into smaller ones and put marbles inside to minimize airspace. Is it worth it? I personally don't bother, but it depends on your opinion.

TheRoff
11-22-2003, 19:51
My local store had Jim Beam’s small batch bourbons set out, so I figured why not….I am sipping from all four. I am sipping them straight, which at what…126 and 107 proof for Bookers and Bakers kind of knock your socks off. But, Basil’s pales in comparison. This tasting is so hard to do -- such a hardship. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

mike1
11-23-2003, 12:37
This afternoon while doing some work on the computer I am sipping on a virginia gentleman 90 aka the Fox. It is a very good bourbon especially for the afternoons as it is a light bourbon. It has a smooth vanilla taste with an easy finish and a kind of viscous mouth to it that I find very satisfying. No great jolts here,no sense of ethonal,just a smooth and flavorful mouthful of enjoyment

OneCubeOnly
11-23-2003, 14:51
Tonight it's Woodford Reserve. I know, I know...with all the commotion surrounding the idiotic lawsuit I should be boycotting the stuff, but it was only $19.99 on sale. Actually, this particular bottle seems infinitely less impressive than I remember. In fact, I can hardly distinguish it from its sibling Old Forester 86. Maybe the lawsuit thing is swaying my taste buds! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

ratcheer
11-23-2003, 19:03
Tonight, it is WT Rare Breed, straight. While participating in the SB.com chat room all by myself. The RB is very spicy, tonight. And wonderfully thick, rich.

Tim

pepcycle
11-24-2003, 11:03
This is a late post.
Friday afternoon went to The Throroughbred shop to meet Tom Bulleit and taste his bourbon. Had a great conversation with proprietor Sal Marino and Tom. Jeff and Leslie were there as well. After that, off to UK basketball, followed by relaxing cocktails in front of the fireplace at Nicholson's Cigar bar. WT 12 on the rocks and a Macanudo Hampton Court Maduro. Nice combo. Smooth bourbon, mild cigar. Topped off the evening with a Jefferson Reserve straight. This is why I live in the Blue Grass. Bourbon, Basketball, Bourbon and friends.
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jeff
11-24-2003, 11:24
Leslie and I had a great time as well. Ed and Patty are wonderful people and fun to hang out with. Tom Bulleit was a very nice and interesting man to talk to. Got a signed bottle and a shot glass and headed to the game. Just a couple minutes into the second half Ed finds us and says he has better seats. Wow did he http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif. Center court Row A seats 1-4. That'll never happen again. At Nicholson's we relaxed and had a Macanudo, courtesy of Ed. I paired it with an EC18 and a Kentucky Spirit. Lovely evening and hope to do it again. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

COPPERSTILL
11-24-2003, 13:17
Sounds like a dream come true. Anytime you have extra tickets remember you brethren here at SB.
John Ed

pepcycle
11-24-2003, 13:25
Extra Tickets.
I'll keep my eye out. I heard there were some in 1992.
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I do occasionally get an offer of extra tickets and I'll let you know.
Ed

Jal
11-24-2003, 17:36
Sorry for the threadjack, but do tell me more about this Nicholson's cigar bar...please http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Paradox
11-24-2003, 18:08
Here's a thread for it (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=11893&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb= 5&amp;o=). Just use the 'search' (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/search.php?Cat=) and look for nicholson's cigar bar and there may be more.....

jeff
11-25-2003, 17:05
Wathen's Single Barrel. Sadly this is the end of my last bottle. Very unique bourbon IMHO. Tonight and am getting a hot taste on the front of the palate, but a smooth and mellow taste on the finish. I like it. Must get more soon.

God I love this thread! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
11-25-2003, 20:38
Tonight I'm taking my first taste of my new Weller's 12yo 1.75L (the only size available in Middle Tennessee). It'll take a while, at my pace, but I'd bet I'll finish the bottle. More alcohol burn than I expected at 90 proof, but mellows out nicely, and the finish -- well, I think it may be my all-time favorite finish. A real beauty, visually, in the glass, with a brown-sugar sweet nose that gives a suggestion of the alcohol burn noted earlier. Not really any strong flavors, though I think I sense a little leather and molasses. All-in-all, I put this right up near the top of my value-for-dollar bourbons. Plus, the bottle has this neat, no-spill plastic spout that keeps me from having the lick the neck of the bottle after I pour.

TexasPride
11-26-2003, 07:31
Hancock's Presidents Reserve 88.9 Proof. got it as a gift. It does not say anything about aging on the bottle, and idea why?

pepcycle
11-26-2003, 09:26
Sinus's are clear once again and the Stagg was calling. I broke the seal and poured two fingers into the Riedel Bourbon Glass. My concern over this being as good as last year's were dismissed. This bourbon is big and loud with background subtleties. New tastes in this year's version are dried figs and burnt toast. Enough like last year's product to keep up the reputation, different enough to make the trip to the store worthwhile. I had the overwhelming urge to put on a smoking jacket and sit in the parlour with this one.
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bluesbassdad
11-26-2003, 14:09
Wathen's -- barely a taste, really -- perhaps 3/8 in. in my tall-boy shotglass.

I'm still nosing at this point (one sip, and it will be all gone). It's buttered whole-wheat toast, clover honey and molasses. Has there ever been a more wholesome, down-to-earth-appealing nose?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

gr8erdane
12-01-2003, 02:20
Not drinking it now, but Saturday was a red letter day as I sat with friends Rick and Brian and uncorked my newly purchased bottle of Pappy 20yr and Brian's bottle of Stagg. I sure am glad Pappy got first crack at my tastebuds because Stagg slagged em. Hooooeeeeeee.

SSBourbon1
12-01-2003, 04:22
Last night was a good pour of WT Rare Breed. Tasted great, this was only the second pour from this bottle and I am beginning to get a new appreciation for the WT line (enjoy Kentuck Spirit as well). I may have to get some of the others WTRR, WT101, etc.

TNbourbon
12-01-2003, 20:59
Don't forget the Wild Turkey rye. Not expensive, but memorable.

OneCubeOnly
12-01-2003, 23:22
Last night it was two very different pours. First I revisited my recently-purchased $19.99 Woodford Reserve bottle, and had the exact reaction as the first time: I was big-time underwhelmed. It really reminds me of plain Old Forester. I wonder if B-F has exhausted their supply of premium barrels!?

Since the WR didn't do it for me I switched to AAA 10yo. Yum! That did the trick!

avery
12-02-2003, 00:06
I've been a bit underwhelmed by Woodford Reserve as well. It runs $30+ around here and I don't think it is worth the price. It is good, but if I'm going to spend that much with my budget, it better be spectacular.

avery
12-02-2003, 00:14
I'm having Weller 12 year old tonight. I bought it last week and have been drinking it the last few days. It is my first Weller and I may be buying more after this. I had almost given up on wheaters, but this is pretty good stuff. I think someone described it as having a more classic bourbon profile than other wheaters. I agree with that. It may be blasphemy, but I think I like it better than ORVW 10/107, which I find a bit harsh. I'll have to try ORVW again and see if I still see it that way.

jeff
12-02-2003, 05:24
Avery, I am also having a hard time deciding on a favorite between Weller 12yo and ORVW 10yo 107. Both are fantastic bourbons, but something about the Weller is a little more approachable and easy to drink. I think I'll try adding a little watter to the ORVW and then comparing them again. Well the great thing is we don't have to decide. I'll enjoy both of them http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Marvin
12-02-2003, 15:02
TomC,

Great choice VOB-what a bourbon!!!! Sorry to reply so late on your post but have been doing a lot of "researching" lately and VOB "as Tony the Tiger would say" It's Gggggreat!!!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

Cheers,
Marvin

TNbourbon
12-02-2003, 20:00
I'm with you (and Jeff, too!): I prefer the simple Weller's 12yo to the Van Winkle 10/90 or 107 -- not that there's anything wrong with the latter(s). And, not surprisingly, both are (were) originally "Pappy"'s bourbons.

ratcheer
12-03-2003, 15:21
I had a healthy shot of Rare Breed, last night while reading a good book (I believe it was John Irving's first, Setting Free the Bears). The RB is superb - sweet, spicy, and flavorful.

Tim

pepcycle
12-04-2003, 10:10
Oh Tannenbaum, Oh Tannenbaum, wie grun ist seiner blatter? (sp?)
Christmas Tree is up, Lights are on. Patty and I are sitting in front of the fireplace on a rainy Kentucky afternoon. The deanter has mystery bourbon. Patty thinks she emptied a bottle of Ezra B 15YO SB into it. Warm and wonderful. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

TNbourbon
12-04-2003, 18:00
I'm about to do a side-by-side tasting of Weller's 12yo and Eagle Rare Single Barrel -- not because they're necessarily similar, but that I can't decide which I like better. I like them both a lot.

SteelerFan
12-04-2003, 18:16
Weller 19yo.
I keep wavering on this pour. Sometimes I get to much wood
taste. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

ratcheer
12-05-2003, 21:28
Tonight, it is Elijah Craig 12-yr old. My current bottle is so much smoother and sweeter than what I remember from about two years ago - I definitely remember giving it the description, "firey", then. EC-12 Tasting notes (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=Tasting&amp;Number=6870&amp;Fo rum=All_Forums&amp;Words=elijah%20craig&amp;Match=Entire%2 0Phrase&amp;Searchpage=12&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=3 168&amp;Search=true#Post6870)

I wonder, has the bourbon changed that much, or is it just me?

Tim

Nightcap
12-05-2003, 22:30
Evan Williams Black Label, 7-years old.

I've read so many conflicting reviews about this whiskey that I had to try it for myself.

I haven't developed the impressive vocab yet that many of you seem to have, when describing your drinks... All I can say is that it tastes good, but has an edge to it. It's a little "hot", if you will; but that doesn't bother me, since my mouth is extremely calloused from eating blazing hot food all the time. I imagine those with a tender palate would be put off by it.

avery
12-05-2003, 23:50
I enjoy EW black label, although I haven't had a pour for quite a while. If go with Evan Williams, I almost always go for EWSB these days. It's got more depth and complexity as well as smoother finish. I get a lot of alcohol in the nose of the 1993 vintage, but on the palate it is quite enjoyable. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'll probably have a pour of both this weekend.

ratcheer
12-06-2003, 07:11
EW Black is a very close relative of EC-12, both being from Heaven Hill. They probably begin as the same whiskey, but then are selected for different aging treatments.

Tim

voigtman
12-06-2003, 16:39
Still snowing here in western MA. Not as much snow as predicted, but it's still coming down and the night is young. Had a nice fire going in the fireplace, playing cards with my wife and finished my first opened Saz 18. Great rye! Now I'm enjoying an Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve 13 YO. Very fine bourbon!

The Saz's cork goes into my cork collection (never know when a spare cork might be needed), but the bottle will go to recycling. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif It would make a nice rocks glass, cut off and fire polished just below the "Sazerac" name, but it would be even nicer if there was a Saz glass to buy. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't normally like "branded" glasses, at all, but I would make an exception for the Saz.

Best thing is, I have an open ORVWOTR 12 YO and a friend brought me a VWFR 13 YO, so I get to HTH these two wonderful ryes, both of which of which I've bunkered. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
A win-win sscenario, methinks! Cheers, Ed

jeff
12-06-2003, 16:51
Thanks to the wonderful generosity of Ed (pepcycle) I am enjoying a generous pour of Ezra Brooks 15yo Single Barrel. I am enjoying my drink in my new Riedel bourbon glass. I must say that, while I expected this to be nice based on comments heard here, I am blown away by this one. Easily the best bourbon to come out of Heaven Hill IMHO. Thick caramel and Vanilla notes with some pleasant woodiness. I'll be exploring this one some more. And the best thing is, I just found a new stash just waiting for the picking. Oh happy day! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
12-06-2003, 20:36
I just had another round of Eagle Rare Single Barrel. My side-by-side with Weller's 12yo the other night solved nothing. In fact, I think I'm going to sample the Weller again right now. I realize I'll probably eventually find something I like better that I haven't tried yet, but I'm in no hurry -- I'm having an awfully good time with these two.

SteveZZZ
12-07-2003, 00:59
Right now, I'm drinking Maker's Mark... and strangely, I'm enjoying it. I guess it's growing on me a bit. It's not bad stuff, I just find it a little boring.

robbyvirus
12-07-2003, 01:54
Still snowing here in western MA. Not as much snow as predicted, but it's still coming down and the night is young. Had a nice fire going in the fireplace, playing cards with my wife and finished my first opened Saz 18. Great rye! Now I'm enjoying an Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve 13 YO. Very fine bourbon!



Man, that sounds like heaven to me!

Where in western MA do you live?...I lived in Williamstown for awhile, about 20 years ago...beautiful country!

voigtman
12-07-2003, 09:08
Yeah, it was a very mellow evening, couldn't get much better! I live in Easthampton, which is west of the CT river. Nice area, but it could always be improved bt a Buffalo trace distributor moving in down the block (Hint, hint BT folk! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) Ed