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jeff
12-16-2004, 17:11
As you're sitting in front of your screen reading these boards, what's in your glass? Let the world know what your current favorite is, it's usually the one in your hand http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Right now I'm enjoying a two-finger pour of Pappy Van Winkle 15yo. Lot's of warm vanilla and caramel with a slightly fruity/medicinal after-taste. There is a little more wood in this expression than either the 10 or the 20yo bottlings, something that might take a new drinker a bit to get used to, but once you're there, you're there http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

wrbriggs
12-16-2004, 17:48
Well, I've currently got Rock Hill Farms in the glass, but I ration it pretty carefully. We trimmed the tree this evening, so I decided it was worth breaking into it.

Lately, I find myself drinking Eagle Rare 101 more than anything else, followed by Elijah Craig 12YO. Days like this where my job was extra stressful, I might crack into another couple, probably Evan Williams Single Barrel and Beam black or Old Forester 100 proof.

voigtman
12-16-2004, 17:49
Right this minute, it's Elijah Craig 18 (barrel 952; barreled 6/15/82). I just love this bourbon, which I admit is not a typical bourbon. I like its subtle statement of what bourbon is all about: no yelling for attention, just an elegant, soft-spoken thing of beauty in a glass. I find it to be balanced exquisitely between dry and sweet, flavorful, yet muted. In some ways, it approaches cognac, in others, single malt. It has rye and it has class. Only downside, to my way of enjoying it, is it's way too drinkable and affordable. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gifHats off to Heaven Hill for this outstanding bourbon! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif Oh, and I also like the bottle (best bourbon bottle I've ever seen) and the cork: I hope Heaven Hill keep them as is because I don't like cheap, generic-looking bottles. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I know it is a hassle on the bottling lines (Thanks, Bettye Jo!), but I like the bottle even more than the Stagg/ER17/Saz18 bottle. Cheers, Ed V.

camduncan
12-16-2004, 19:49
Tonight (Friday night) is usually a drop of ORVW 10yo before dinner, a shot of Elijah Craig 12yo after dinner, and a dash of Jim Beam Small Batch & Port with/after dessert..
Tommorrow night at a 'Antipasto Evening' dinner party, it'll probably be either Bulleit or Evan Williams SB..

BobA
12-16-2004, 21:17
Well, this is as good a place as any for my first post. Wouldn't necessarily call it my #1 favorite - I'm still a little new in my explorations for that - but what's in my glass right now is OGB BIB, which is in my house solely because of lurking on this board. Thanks for that, and others.
Bob

Nightcap
12-16-2004, 21:24
Welcome, BobA !!!!!!!!

Right this moment, I am drinking WT 101 cut 50/50 with cold ginger ale, no ice. A most satisfying sipper!

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dgonano
12-16-2004, 22:18
Very Old Barton 100. Very enjoyable for the price.

musher
12-16-2004, 22:21
I, too, am drinking OGD BIB at the moment. Earlier this evening, it was WT 101. Both served neat in a Riedel Bourbon glass.

halpap
12-16-2004, 22:39
I am drinking a shot of Buffalo Trace. It is a fine whisky and affordable enough to drink everyday. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

lakegz
12-16-2004, 23:19
Wild Turkey 101 Neat
i had my first day at my new job so im kinda tired and this is hittin the spot.
Lakers won too http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

greenbob
12-16-2004, 23:51
Lakers won too



Yeah, but they beat the Kings. I like your bourbon choice better. I really like the WT 101, and tomorrow I'm going to try to bag the Rare Breed. I just finished a Stagg. The Stagg seems to get better every night.

robbyvirus
12-17-2004, 00:32
I have really missed this thread...it was always one of my favorites! In my glass is Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, distilled Spring 1995, bottled 2004...And well worth the wait!

jeff
12-17-2004, 04:48
Welcome Bob, glad you joined in! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

BrbnBorderline
12-17-2004, 08:33
Last night was WT101 neat. Tonight I might go for some VWFR Rye.

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clayton
12-17-2004, 09:08
Last night's pour was Wild Turkey Rare Breed. Delicious on a cold, rainy Seattle night.

wadewood
12-17-2004, 10:54
Delicious on a cold, rainy Seattle night.



So basically anytime between Sept and the end of Feb?

clayton
12-17-2004, 11:33
So basically anytime between Sept and the end of Feb?


Exactly! Why do you think I like whisk(e)y so much? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BrbnBorderline
12-17-2004, 13:14
Just got a phone call from my Dad, who has been fighting Lymphoma since August - his scan came back clean and he is in remission - so I will probably open my last bottle of Booker's to celebrate. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

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gr8erdane
12-17-2004, 13:36
Glad to hear the good news. I'll join you this evening with a first-pour-of-the-night of Booker's and toast his continued recovery. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
12-17-2004, 15:00
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifCheers to a continued and complete recovery. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

BrbnBorderline
12-17-2004, 15:02
Thanks guys.

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ej178
12-17-2004, 21:25
Just my daily pour, EW Black.

BobA
12-17-2004, 22:46
Thanks for the welcomes. Tonight was the bottom of a bottle of Knob Creek, then OF 100, to compare.
Bob

troyce
12-18-2004, 08:00
With several bourbons to choose from, I keep going back to Old Ezra, 7 yr old. A couple of pours last night capped off a good week. I'm surprised you don't see or hear more of this one. For my money , it's hard to beat.

brian12069
12-19-2004, 05:36
that is a good one for the money...

pdsmith56
12-19-2004, 08:04
I alternate between Maker's Mark & Woodford Reserve; served in a Talbott Tavern glass from Bardstown. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif

camduncan
12-19-2004, 16:26
Tonight (Friday night) is usually a drop of ORVW 10yo before dinner, a shot of Elijah Craig 12yo after dinner, and a dash of Jim Beam Small Batch & Port with/after dessert..
Tommorrow night at a 'Antipasto Evening' dinner party, it'll probably be either Bulleit or Evan Williams SB..



Well, the whole plan changed... A night out to dinner on Friday night saw me drinking Basil Hayden http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
And I ended up buying my Xmas bottle of 94 Evan William SB on Saturday night... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

brian12069
12-19-2004, 17:33
Tonight (Friday night) is usually a drop of ORVW 10yo before dinner, a shot of Elijah Craig 12yo after dinner, and a dash of Jim Beam Small Batch & Port with/after dessert..
Tommorrow night at a 'Antipasto Evening' dinner party, it'll probably be either Bulleit or Evan Williams SB..



Well, the whole plan changed... A night out to dinner on Friday night saw me drinking Basil Hayden http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
And I ended up buying my Xmas bottle of 94 Evan William SB on Saturday night... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif



I take it you don't like Basil Hayden either...

camduncan
12-19-2004, 19:19
I take it you don't like Basil Hayden either...



I'm still quite fond of it, as it was the first bourbon I could drink neat. I guess my tastes have matured or evolved once I found bottles from Heaven Hill & Buffalo Trace though http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I still go back to BH on occasions, but it's not my prefered drop..

RedVette
12-19-2004, 21:30
Right now I am enjoying a glass of ORVW 12 yr old "Lot B". Tasty stuff, but nowhere near as tasty as the 15 and 20 year old Van Winkles. I rotate through the 40 or 50 expressions in the collection, but I have a group of bourbons that I regularily enjoy because I can afford to enjoy them. OGD BIB, Beam Black, WT101 and EC12 are all on my "common pour" list.

nysquire
12-23-2004, 05:21
We usually start with a pour of the Rock Hill, a very nice starting bourbon.Than we go to our favorite pour EC 18yo....Than a little pour of the OF 13yo Birthday and VW 12yo special reserve. And to end the night with a pour of Old Weller Centennial, what we call our dessert bourbon or breakfast bourbon. Gonna try it on pancakes some day....... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

clayton
12-23-2004, 09:23
Last night was some Stagg 04 in a set of new Riedel bourbon glasses from my best bourbon-drinking friend -- a fine xmas present indeed! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

TNbourbon
12-23-2004, 09:54
Last night, after fighting through snowstorms in IN-KY on my way home, I poured a triple of bourbons not available in TN -- the Evan Williams 1783 (which struck me as a drinkable version of EC12), Old Fitzgerald 1849 (a nice 8yo -- think VOB in wheat), and Very Rare Old Heaven Hill 10yo BIB (perhaps my favorite of the trio -- a softness to it that offset the 100 proof nicely). The best thing is that I bought 750s of all three in a KY store less than 2 hours away for under $38.

BrbnBorderline
12-23-2004, 12:08
Last night was two fingers of Knob Creek.

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camduncan
12-23-2004, 13:06
Last night I finished off the last few pours in an old bottle of Jim Beam White.. I had to mix it with coke - I just couldn't tolerate it neat or with ice http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/puke.gif

Tonight I'll open my 04 Sazerac and share a pour with my Dad for Xmas Eve. We'll likely finish with some ORVW 13yo Rye..

Ken Weber
12-24-2004, 11:07
Cameron, I will be interested in your assessment of the Sazerac Rye and the Van Winkle Rye. Merry Christmas!

Ken

GrayFox
12-26-2004, 20:33
Buffalo Trace....so good it may replace Wild Turkey as my old standby.

ratcheer
12-27-2004, 07:20
Last night, very late, I finished off my first bottle of Kentucky Spirit. Very tasty! I have a new bottle in the bunker, but after that one, they apparently have decided to no longer carry it in my (ABC) state. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I managed to throw away the bottle, but I had to keep the heavy pewter cork top. I have no idea why. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Tim

TNbourbon
12-27-2004, 09:27
...but I had to keep the heavy pewter cork top. I have no idea why.



Maybe you just knew intuitively that that pewter top is obsolete. You had an older bottle -- Wild Turkey replaced it with a wooden/cork stopper a couple of years ago.

idpa2000
12-27-2004, 13:34
Last night it was 2 fingers of <font color="blue"> Knob Creek</font> with one big fat ice cube. It was so good that tonight I will probably repeat the same.
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gr8erdane
12-27-2004, 18:58
That and the sometimes annoying characteristic of corks to not seal completely and require replacement. I have a bottle of Corner Creek that I could rattle the cork around in the top and had to pull out an eighth of an inch or so to seal until I found one to replace it. You can never have enough spare corks. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

kitzg
12-29-2004, 13:05
Ah, yes, which one should I drink?

Though I have bourbons that clearly I'd rate as the top of my list and like most here I would not buy JB white (or the 'new' JD 80 proof black label) I guess the 'best bourbon' is the one I have in my hand at a given moment!

Recently when sipping I've been enjoying Beam Black, Weller 12, Eagle Rare SB, AAA and a few others but in the next few days I will finish off the Blanton's I have. Why let that one sit? I actually believe I might finish off all of my open bottles before I start on a trip in early January! Terrible chore, http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif eh? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

wrbriggs
12-29-2004, 16:10
Tonight I'm drinking Blanton's, and then I intend to move on to my first pour of Old Grand Dad 114. We'll see how that goes!

TNbourbon
12-31-2004, 19:41
My own New Year's Eve celebration began with Wathen's 1997 (94 proof) and currently continues with Old Forester Birthday Bourbon (95 proof) and anticipates Rare Old Heaven Hill 10yo BIB (100 proof, of course) and 2004 George T. Stagg (129 proof). I didn't concoct this rye-flavored progression until I was already into the Wathen's -- and retro-proofing generally seems like a bad idea -- or I would have begun with Eagle Rare 17yo 2004 (90 proof). I guess I'll save that with which to toast the new year tomorrow.

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gifTo a great 2005 for all of you!

dgonano
12-31-2004, 20:39
Some Michter's( from the Xmas tree decanter ), followed by some Stagg(129 proof). Also celebrating a rare e-bay win for me ( Johnny Reb 12 yr from the Dowling Dist.).

Happy New Year to everyone. Please don't drink and drive.
I want to see everyone at the Gazebo in 2005!

mobourbon
12-31-2004, 20:40
I'm ringing in the new year with WT Russells Reserve. Great tasting! Great pour!
Fred http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jeff
12-31-2004, 21:08
My new Year's celebration began with a few Sierra Nevada Celebration Ales and Porters and is finishing up with a bit of Wild Turkey Freedom. I might crack open a bottle of Early Times bourbon if the mood strikes me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

bluesbassdad
12-31-2004, 21:20
Eagle Rare 101. I've liked this one from the first time I tried it, an accidental purchase when I thought I was ordering ER 10 y/o Single Barrel. Lately it has seemed especially tasty. It seems to fall somewhere between the perhaps overly sweet Buffalo Trace and the perhaps overly tangy Wild Turkey 101. Within the BT lineup it compares very favorably to Rock Hill Farms, IMO.

I picked up this, my second bottle (a 1.75 L. this time) on my trip to Houston to adopt my pet bull, Brewski, back in September. It may have to last a while; I find no BT product except Ancient Age in this area.

I'll be celebrating very quietly tonight. My wife left for Illinois yesterday to care for her mother while her father recovers from cancer surgery. She left me five of our six dogs to keep me company and out of trouble. (The one she took is purse-sized.)

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

gr8erdane
12-31-2004, 23:34
For me it was good old plain WT 101. I was feeling a bit nostalgic.

cowdery
01-01-2005, 16:48
"Retro-proofing"? Nice, new term. If I take the meaning correctly, "to follow a drink of whiskey with a drink of a different whiskey having a lower proof."

TNbourbon
01-01-2005, 22:06
"Retro-proofing"...If I take the meaning correctly, "to follow a drink of whiskey with a drink of a different whiskey having a lower proof."



You are correct -- that's what I meant.

bluesbassdad
01-01-2005, 22:16
Weller 12 y/o. Suddenly I think I'm tasting more barrel char than I remember -- especially in the finish. Someone recently opined that this bourbon is considerably older than 12 years. Could it be that I'm so suggestible that I now think it tastes older than I did before?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

camduncan
01-02-2005, 05:35
Tonight, due to budget, I was looking for something 'cheap' to take to a dinner party. I decided on a bottle of Kentucky Gold from Heaven Hill. For some reason the label has always put me off trying it in the past...
This turned out to be an excellent bourbon for a few dollars less than Jim Beam White label http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

jeff
01-12-2005, 16:31
Tonight I'm enjoying a pour of Old Fitz BIB over ice. This really is a great bourbon for the price. I'm constantly amazed at how good a wheated bourbon can be, when made by people who know what bourbon should taste like http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gillman
01-12-2005, 17:53
Classic Cask rye whiskey, 21 years old. A rich spicy dram of genuine American whiskey if ever there was one. Age in such ostensibly superannuated form needs careful handling; the bottler (Kulsveen, I believe) picked well.

For those interested in why straight whiskey is being marketed increasingly at older ages, I highly recommend Chuck Cowdery's current newsletter. In fact I recommend it if, like many of us here, you have whiskey on the brain in general. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If you don't subscribe currently, start.

Gary

BrbnBorderline
01-12-2005, 19:43
Last nite was Weller Antique. Still haven't decided on tonight's pour. It's been a while since I've had any WT Rye....Hmmmmmmm


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wrbriggs
01-12-2005, 20:40
Tonight was a bar night. Selection was limited. Woodford Reserve and WT 101. Now the wife has cut me off, and she's probably right.

TNbourbon
01-12-2005, 20:57
I'm into a 1997 bottling of Wathen's tonight, which starts with a wonderfully spicy (cloves, I think) nose covering up brown sugar. A nice combination of spicy sweetness and alcohol heat, followed by a medium-length finish. Good end-of-nighter.
I keep thinking I'll pick up a new(er) bottling for comparison -- I have a couple other '97s in bunker -- but I've been enjoying this one so well once a week or so, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

clayton
01-13-2005, 09:19
Last night was Wild Turkey Rare Breed, which I hadn't touched in awhile. My palate was wide awake, and I found all kinds of things that I hadn't noticed before, most notably a powerful citrus element (tangerines came to mind).

BobA
01-13-2005, 19:10
I'm doing a "bargain sampler" of three bourbons that have a variety of support here; OF 86, VOB 90, and Rebel Yell. I thought I knew that there was one I didn't enjoy, but now I'm so sure; it doesn't really have the unpleasant aftertaste I remember from earlier samplings, and now one of the others is starting to rub me the wrong way.

Obviously, more study is required.

Bob

jbewley
01-13-2005, 19:15
I'm stuck in a hotel in a small Oklahoma town on business, and I stop by the tiny liquor store down the street to see what they have, and low and behold, they had Wellers Antique 107 in a pint.. I'd always wondered about the Antique, but never quite enough to buy a whole fifth. And I had no clue they bottled it in pints. What a great idea.

I can't believe I've never had Weller Antique before. Neat, it's not for me. With ice and some water, it ranks *way* up there on my list. Sometimes I think of Wellers as less of a bourbon and more of a "Just add water" cocktail mix.. I forget how sweet wheaters can be after drinking OGD and ryes lately.

robbyvirus
01-14-2005, 00:58
Tonight I went all-out and had a nip of Hirsch 16 yo followed by some Elija Craig 18 yo. Two great bourbons, and both very different from one another. Life is good!

bluesbassdad
01-15-2005, 22:43
I'm just now finishing a double Evan Williams Single Barrel 1993 from a Glencairn glass that bears the EWSB imprint. (Now that I have a collection of the HH glasses, I'm wondering what I'll do with my Riedel glasses.)

I still get that grassy taste that I'm not fond of, but I'm also getting other elements playing peek-a-boo with my palate tonight. In short tonight I'm finding this bottling intriquing, even if not as downright satisfying as Eljah Craig 12 y/o. For the first time I even detect a family resemblance between the two.

The resemblance is vaguely similar to that between an uncooked roasting ear (akin to the EWSB) and one that has been roasted over an open fire to the point of slight caramelization (EC12).

I made the mistake of finishing my lone bottle of EWSB 1992. I wish I had kept it around to compare to subsequent bottlings. I'll definitely open the 1994 before I finish the 1993.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
01-15-2005, 23:03
I couldn't very well sit here with an empty glass, so I decided to open my EWSB 1994 from barrel 120. (I suggest a new competition at the KBF. Have the executives from each company open bottles of their wax-sealed bottlings by hand. I finally had to use a pocket knife to score the wax before I could get the pull-tab to do its job.)

The nose of the 1994 is even more like that of EC12 (a comparison I noted in the preceding post). That quality carries through nicely to the palate. My first impression, perhaps dulled slightly by the earlier drink of the 1993, is that this is not only my favorite of the three EWSB bottlings I've tried, it may even be more enjoyable than EC12, my previous Heaven Hill favorite.

I'll have to taste it another time with a fresh palate to be sure.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

TNbourbon
01-16-2005, 08:39
I also noted the resemblance to EC12 -- for which I don't care -- when I first opened EWSB '94 (Barrel 34) -- which I do like. To a less complex degree, I also note the resemblance to EC12 in the EW1783. Perhaps it's the combination of those flavors and the 12 years I don't like because, as noted above, I don't find the resemblance unpalatable in the younger (SB is 9+yo and 1783 a 10yo) pair.

musher
01-16-2005, 12:28
(Now that I have a collection of the HH glasses, I'm wondering what I'll do with my Riedel glasses.)


I prefer them to the Glencairn glass. The top of the Glencairn is too small, and I don't get any nose while taking a sip from them. The Riedels have a big enough opening to allow a little more aroma while taking a sip.

BrbnBorderline
01-16-2005, 21:58
Right now I am enjoying Weller Antique.


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jeff
01-18-2005, 17:53
Tonight I'm sampling some Buffalo Trace Single Barrel that was picked by several of our members last September. This is a particularly well-balanced bourbon with the halmark sweet caramel and vanilla foundation, with good measures of dried fruit and spice. Tonight I am picking up a nuance that can only be described as "rummy". There are also hints of tobacco and cedar, a la Stagg. Actually, this barrel reminds me a great deal of GTS; surely the distillery character shining through. Excellent choice gentlemen and ladies. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ikewillett1
01-19-2005, 13:53
I had a nagging headache last night so I had a two finger poor of the 2004 edition of Stagg. Fixed me right up. No more headache. My wife and I both think that stuff is the miracle cure.

Ike

jeff
01-20-2005, 15:59
Tonight I'm having a pour of "Very Old" Jefferson's Reserve, a Christmas gift from my wife. This is only the third pour out of the bottle and tonight I'm having it over a couple of ice cubes. This bourbon is a little spicy and hot, with a distinctive Heaven Hill character. Lots of green corn and hay dominate. I'm enjoying it more on ice than neat and I think I'll enjoy it even more in the warmer months. I am however having a cork porblem that some of you have noted with the original JR bottling. Mine is slowly falling apart with each opening.

dgonano
01-20-2005, 16:29
Only have a few bottles open at any given time. Currently I have been enjoying Ancient Ancient Age 10, Stagg '04, Michter's Unblended American , and some old potstilled Michter's. The AAA is a low price gem; The Stagg is a powerhouse; The Michter's Unblended has a very sweet Maple syrup taste; The old potstilled Michter's has very clean grainy taste , no wood nor sweetness is detected.

troyce
01-20-2005, 17:08
Just had my first Henry McKenna SB. Very good ; a little sweet but good balance. I'll buy this one again. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

cowdery
01-20-2005, 17:32
I just poured some 1792, but it's in the other room so I've got to go.

Gillman
01-20-2005, 19:02
Ancient Age Bottled In Bond. Bottom of label states, "Ancient Age Distilling Co., Frankfort, KY." No reference to the Buffalo Trace corporate entity and there is a "93" stamped in a corner of the base of the bottle, so possibly an older bottle. Rich, sweet, with a clear relation (I now see) to Blanton, but more funky and endearing for it. This cost under $10.00 and is an outstanding example of the fine value of American straight whiskey. There are malt whiskies many times the price that don't come close in quality, for example.

Gary

RedVette
01-21-2005, 18:20
Elijah Craig 12. This Bourbon continues to amaze me. It is relatively inexpensive yet it is wonderfully complex. Each sip reveals new flavors.

sydney
01-21-2005, 19:55
Well, of course, I'm drinking WT Rare Breed. I find it an excellent bourbon.

camduncan
01-21-2005, 20:08
Yep, a little too much Elijah Craig 12yo last night may explain the cracking headache I've had today http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

wrbriggs
01-22-2005, 06:14
Yep, a little too much Elijah Craig 12yo last night may explain the cracking headache I've had today http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif


I've accidentally overdosed on EC12 as well. I just keep wanting one more taste so I pour another finger or two. Never feel like I'm really drunk or anything, but the next morning I get the king of all headaches.

If I have more than 2 pours of bourbon, I do a pre-emptive strike and drink a ton of orange Gatorade and take 2 aspirin before going to bed. Seem to work for me, but it's all just anecdotal evidence.

boone
01-22-2005, 09:22
A little helpful tip, to save yourself from a "few" hangover's http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif Before you go to bed, drink a glass of water http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Several http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif REALLY big glasses if you have consumed alot http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif This will help. Not guaranteed, but it will help.

Bettye Jo

Gillman
01-22-2005, 10:22
Here is a favourite quote from the British writer Kingsley Amis, from his essay, "How Not To Get Drunk" which is included in "The Booze Book", ed. by Ralph Schoenstein, Playboy Press, 1974. Note please Amis is referring to the former British proof system so all the drinks he is referring to are even stronger (by reference to U.S. proof) than may seem the case:

"Avoiding things can hardly help coming up more than once in the present connection. To proceed, then, AVOIDING VERY STRONG DRINKS is more than the piece of padding it may seem. The alcoholic strength or proof of a wine, spirit, etc., is not a straightforward index of its power to intoxicate. The relationship is non-linear, or, if you must have everything spelled out, the graph plotting proof against kick is not straight. Above the standard strength of spirits it bends sharply upward, so that for instance green Chartreuse, which is distilled out at 96 proof, is not just a bit over a third as strong as, say, a gin at 70, but several times stronger in its effect. I once shared a half-litre of Polish Plain Spirit (140 proof) with two chums. I only spoke twice, first to say, "Cut out that laughing - it can't have got to you yet," and not all that much later to say, "I think I'll go to bed now".

Gary http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

gr8erdane
01-22-2005, 18:31
Did you ever stop to think that when you are drinking bourbon in Australia, you are basically standing on your head in comparison to someone drinking it in Kentucky at the same time? My advice is to drink lying on your side for a while and the headaches should decrease by half. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

Black85L98
01-22-2005, 21:12
A mix of Wellers and EC 12. Not too bad.

TNbourbon
01-22-2005, 21:25
Well, I'm doing a personal taste-around tonight: started with Benraich, a recently defunct Scotch (10yo, 86 proof); then opened my first bottle of '04 Sazerac rye (a disappointment -- will have to revisit soon and hope it's my mood and not the whiskey); I currently have full-proof (129) '04 Stagg in my glass (always a treat -- always!); and, if that doesn't make me numb, I may add a wheater as a finale (probably Stitzel-Weller-distilled Weller Special Reserve 7yo).
As you might have guessed, I'm free to sleep in in the morning.

camduncan
01-22-2005, 23:15
After a day in bed from too much EC 12yo, and what was probably more migraine than hangover....
I gently eased into last nights dinner party with a Van Winkle 13yo Rye on ice, followed by a neat Van Winkle 10yo Bourbon.
Dinner of Marinated Roast Lamb (garlic &amp; Rosemary) with gravy, mint &amp; creamy potato, &amp; vegies done in chicken broth was complimented by a Wild Turkey Rare Breed on ice.
After desert I finished the night with a Buffalo Trace on ice.
Plenty of water and a couple of glasses of Kentucky Gold &amp; Coke broke up the night and ensured I didn't wake up too bad again this morning http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif.

Gillman
01-23-2005, 09:01
Last night a jigger of the Evan Williams Single Barrel 1994. I look forward to sampling the 1995 but I think it will be hard to improve on the 1994. It has a very "real" character, big, mature, honest, very flavourful. This bourbon is one that I find stands out in all cocktails, you can never mistake it, and while many like it neat its mint-like, layered background blends well with a sprinkle of cola or the accoutrements of an Old-Fashioned or Manhattan.

By the way I always enjoy reading the house newsletter which Bettye Jo has just put on the board. I like its approach, informative and business-driven but respectful of the employees and the heritage of the company. It is always pleasing too to see names which many bourbon enthusiasts know are associated to a further degree in some way with the distilled spirits industry in Kentucky, just on a quick scan in this issue I saw the names Cecil, Willett, DeSpain; of course, Bettye Jo and Parker and Craig Beam come first to mind. I am sure there are many more.

Long live Heaven Hill.

Gary

wrbriggs
01-23-2005, 09:49
Heh, last night for me it was Seagram's Seven & Ginger ale (I know it's not bourbon, but it was as close as I could get ). Had to go to an event at an Elk's club about an hour away (an hour away from my area in any direction is wilderness). Needless to say their selection was somewhat limited. Tonight I plan on having some Woodford Reserve followed by some Old Grand Dad 114. And then I guess I'll have to see where the mood takes me for subsequent pours. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

wrbriggs
01-23-2005, 20:44
Pappy Van Winkle 15 year old, in celebration of the Patriots whooping the Steelers.

Go Pats! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Oh, and Pappy 15 is damn tasty. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif Probably my favorite bourbon that I currently own, even better than the Pappy 20.

Ken Weber
01-24-2005, 06:19
Ike,
I am not about to start making medical claims for our bourbons, however, we did distill during Prohibition, strictly for medicinal purposes!

Ken

nysquire
01-24-2005, 07:54
Just finished the bottle of VW 20yo that we bought for the holidays http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Now onto the ORVW 15yo....Waitin for the store to get some more EC 18yo, doesn't seem to be makin it's way north for some reason..... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ikewillett1
01-24-2005, 12:27
I had some friends over last Thursday to enjoy a bottle of Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit. We drank it out of Riedel Bourbon glasses. I have been a fan of Wild Turkey 101 for a while now and believe Kentucky Spirit to be a nice refinement of the original. My friends and I had a great time.

BrbnBorderline
01-24-2005, 14:20
Last nite was Baker's 107.

Saturday nite was VWFR Rye.

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robbyvirus
01-24-2005, 23:33
Tonight I'm having a pour of Jefferson's. I've had this bottle awhile, and wasn't too impressed when I first tried it, so it sat on the shelf for awhile. But tonight I'm having some on ice, and it's a pleasant surprise...rich and tasty with hints of carmel...much better than I remembered! I like this better than Jefferson's Reserve, which is considerably more expensive (at least out here in California).

TNbourbon
01-25-2005, 16:12
Last night, I had what I refer to as a "mini-Gillman", though I suppose it could also rightfully be called a "GillManhattan" -- anyway, a concoction similar to a Manhattan sparked by Gary's discussion of his experiementations with the cocktail.
Frankly, I haven't found anything approaching a traditional Manhattan I care for. So, instead of throwing the fixin's away, I poured out half the cherry juice and replaced it with a mix of sweet vermouth (Noilly Prat) and a few splashes of bitters (Angostura). Then, I simply drop a cherry or two into a 2- to 3-oz pour of bourbon. Last night, I had two cherries in the remaining bit of a bottle of Noah's Mill.
It's a nice change once in a while, without much thought or effort or, for that matter, change to the bourbon. And the cherry is a good chaser.
Bourbon crooked with a cherry back?

jeff
01-25-2005, 17:02
Right now it's a small pour of Old Fitz BIB over an ice cube. I'm baking salmon tonight and this bourbon seemed the best dinner preparation partner (DPP). Chardonnay is on tap for dinner, but I'll probably revisit this one before bed http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

bluesbassdad
01-25-2005, 21:08
Old Ezra 15 y/o. This is my first, and apparently my last bottle of this gem. It's well below half full at this point. I sip it sparingly.

The nose is full of pears and custard pudding or maybe banana pie. The sweetness disappears on the palate, replaced by essence of charred oak. However, hints of sweetness return at the mostly dry finish.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

wrbriggs
01-25-2005, 21:17
Eagle Rare Single Barrel. It's got a bad rap here, but I still enjoy it quite a bit.

dgonano
01-25-2005, 22:57
Forgot that I had this open. Kentucky Tavern 8yr BIB.

pepcycle
01-26-2005, 13:23
Funny about 15 Y/O Ezra B SB. Its so good.
I have a bottle of the new 12 y/o and am ready to pour it down the drain. Tastes like wet peet moss with corn husks in it. How could they be so different?
Ed

cowdery
01-27-2005, 10:36
An object lesson in the perils of bottler brands. They are limited by the bulk whiskey available for purchase. In the case of David Sherman with Ezra Brooks, not only did they have to convert if from a 15-year-old to a 12-year-old, they apparently couldn't even buy any decent 12-year-old whiskey.

The producers of bulk whiskey are all companies that market their own brands and into which stream do you think they put their best whiskey?

The only shame in this is that it was largely the independent bottlers who created the market for extra-aged bourbon, which the distillers are now taking over, but who can blame them?

All's fair in love and whiskey.

camduncan
01-27-2005, 14:04
Cameron, I will be interested in your assessment of the Sazerac Rye and the Van Winkle Rye. Merry Christmas!

Ken




Ken, I'll hopefully be tasting both again Saturday night and will write down some observations as I drink...

ikewillett1
01-28-2005, 09:43
Last night it was Rock Hill Farms out of Riedel Bourbon Glasses with four friends. We had a nice time. The bourbon and the discussion flowed freely.

BrbnBorderline
01-28-2005, 12:16
Last nite I tried 1792 Ridgemont Reserve. I had bought this a couple hours before I researched it on this forum. From the comments I read, you'd think this stuff was Maker's Mark or Old Crow.

I found it a very pleasent bourbon. Is it worth the $29 a bottle? Not sure yet. Is it swill? No. Is it a somewhat milder bourbon than say WT RB, Booker's, Weller Antique? Yes. But for a bourbon under 100 proof, I'd take it over the much vaunted EC12 or EWSB. Just my opinion.

I will be exploring this offering further.

YMMV.

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jeff
01-28-2005, 12:37
Ed and I got to taste some of this at a Wine Shop here in Lexington last weekend. I had not had any in a bit and I had forgot just how good it is. At first I thought they were serving Woodford Reserve...(rimshot) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

cowdery
01-28-2005, 16:21
I like the 1792 very much and if it's overpriced it is only slightly so. At least they didn't just take any old anything and put it in a fancy bottle. It's some of the best bourbon ever to come out of Barton, in my opinion.

I also don't consider Maker's Mark to be swill. In fact, considering the undistinguished nature of at least some of the wheated bourbons produced at the new Bernheim, Maker's Mark may be where one has to go to get a good wheater (other than the Pappys, of course).

Although, on that subject, I had some Old Fitzgerald BIB last night, which could be late UD or even early HH Bernheim and it didn't disappoint.

Oh yeah, Old Crow is swill.

BrbnBorderline
01-28-2005, 21:42
I like the 1792 very much and if it's overpriced it is only slightly so.



Still exploring this aspect.



I also don't consider Maker's Mark to be swill.



To my tastebuds, it is just a notch or two above swill. This is the 1st bourbon I ever bought with a serious intent of exploring. It doesn't get any better everytime I try it. Sorry.



In fact, considering the undistinguished nature of at least some of the wheated bourbons produced at the new Bernheim, Maker's Mark may be where one has to go to get a good wheater (other than the Pappys, of course).



Haven't tried Pappy's yet, but I will take ANY of the Weller offerings over MM any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.



Oh yeah, Old Crow is swill.



Roger that.

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TNbourbon
01-29-2005, 07:22
I haven't tried the Ridge'mont' Reserve yet, but enjoyed the original Ridge'wood' 1792 (which I opened before it became a collector's item, and of which I still have several bottles) very much.
I would, however, split the difference with you on preference, Mark -- surely, I'd prefer it to EC12, but would rate it no better than equal to EWSB, perhaps not quite that.
There has been some discussion here as to whether the replacement version is the same as the original. Barton folks -- including Bill Friel -- say it's the same. Some palates say otherwise.

ratcheer
01-29-2005, 08:39
I never had the original, so I can't compare. But, I am one of those who are underwhelmed by the 1792 Ridgemont.

I will say though, that it opens up quite a bit with the addition of ice and/or water. It actually becomes fairly tasty.

Tim

mobourbon
01-29-2005, 10:42
The last couple of nights I have had Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve 13 y/o distilled on Frankfort. I've never had it before and spotted it in a store. Very good! Not a real strong taste but I enjoy it very much! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

mike1
01-29-2005, 15:37
With all of the chatter about the 1792 brands, I opened a bottle of the 1792 Ridgemont Reserve that I bought this summer at the Bourbon Festival. It is a much better bourbon than the Ridgewood Reserve that I bought the year before. The Ridgewood reserve ,to me , tasted no different than the Old Barton 6 year old. The Ridgemont Reserve is has more vanilla to it, and is ,all in all, a very good whiskey

wrbriggs
01-29-2005, 19:41
Tonight, I started with some EWSB '94, and am now trying some Sam Houston for the first time. Will probably move on to some EC12 or Eagle Rare 101 before the evening is over.

bluesbassdad
01-29-2005, 22:37
Inspired by Jeff's original post in the current reincarnation of this thread, I'm having Old Rip Van Winkle 15/107 -- for the first time in perhaps a year or more. (I guess I'm in the minority, but I love the squat bottle and the rustic label with the cartoonish drawings -- but then I like the rendering of the photo of Pappy Van Winkle that appears on like-named bottlings, too.)

I think I recall saying a long time ago that I prefer the 10 year-old expression. Well, tastes change. Tonight the 15 year-old has a depth that my memory of the younger expression cannot match.

What I once regarded as too much oak char now suggests dried fruit and shortening-laden pie crust (with dark, crispy edges -- both sweet and slightly bitter), from nose to finish.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

TNbourbon
01-29-2005, 23:17
Always one to steal a good idea when I see one -- and having an open space in my open-bottle lineup -- I, too, opened a 15yo, 107-proof "A" series bottle tonight. Oddly, while I've experienced just about all the Van Winkles, it was only recently I purchased my 2nd 15yo bottle, so I hadn't tasted one yet. I'm sorry I waited so long.
The nose alone is heaven -- a candied-apple aroma that only gets stronger and more prominent as the pour sits in the glass. Undertones of brown sugar. On either the nose or palate, there is no hint of alcohol at all (how is that, at 107 proof?). The 15 years show on the finish, with spreading oak burning along the edges of -- what? -- midway-red taffy, like fire nibbling along the edge of newspaper before the kindling catches.
Oh, this is fine! Both subtle and robust at the same time! (Again, how do they do that?) I could drink myself silly with this stuff! (I know, I know, you think I already have!)
Unlike Dave, I find no real depth -- but the shallows are the perfect temperature for swimming. This is straightforward bourbon -- sweet, oaky, medium-long. But each step perfectly aligned.
I hope it is not just this bottle -- I have another. And I will buy whatever ORVW 15yo I find. Pappy 15 can wait. If it is better -- well, I can't even hope. An equal will suffice!
"Always fine bourbon..."
Julian, you did Pappy justice here!http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif
Thank you.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

jeff
02-01-2005, 16:30
Right now I am having a bit of Old Heaven Hill 10yo BIB on ice. I am really enjoying this tonight. I'm getting the familiar HH house style, but with a little more octane! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

cowdery
02-01-2005, 20:07
I just had some Weller Centennial and enjoyed it more than my last drink from the same bottle. I was so disappointed with it last time I put it away in the liquor cabinet. This time it stayed in the speed rack (i.e., out on the kitchen counter).

Maybe it's because I was eating pretzels and the salt brought something out in it.

BrbnBorderline
02-02-2005, 08:31
I just had some Weller Centennial and enjoyed it more than my last drink from the same bottle. I was so disappointed with it last time I put it away in the liquor cabinet. This time it stayed in the speed rack (i.e., out on the kitchen counter).

Maybe it's because I was eating pretzels and the salt brought something out in it.



I have found that drier bourbons tend to open up and taste sweeter following food that is spicy and/or salty.

Last night was Booker's. This bourbon never ceases to amaze me. Without spending alot more money, does it get any better?

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wrbriggs
02-02-2005, 10:11
Last night was Booker's. This bourbon never ceases to amaze me. Without spending alot more money, does it get any better?


I honestly have not been that impressed with Booker's. For $48 / bottle, I expected a lot more. I can get Pappy 15 for that price, and so far I enjoy it a lot more than the 2 bottles of Booker's I've tried (wasn't impressed with the first, figured I got a bad batch, bought a second bottle... still wasn't impressed).

I think I would actually rate Booker's 3rd in the Small Batch collection, with Baker's being first, and Knob Creek second.

clayton
02-02-2005, 11:14
think I would actually rate Booker's 3rd in the Small Batch collection, with Baker's being first, and Knob Creek second.


That's interesting that you say that. I've heard mostly ho-hum impressions of Baker's, and haven't bought a bottle for that reason. I'll have to give it a try.

bobbyc
02-02-2005, 12:48
I've heard mostly ho-hum impressions of Baker's,



I think Baker's is the sleeper in the small batch collection. It surprizes me every time I have it, that it is so much more enjoyable, than my expectations.

wrbriggs
02-02-2005, 12:56
I've heard mostly ho-hum impressions of Baker's,



I think Baker's is the sleeper in the small batch collection. It surprizes me every time I have it, that it is so much more enjoyable, than my expectations.


I mentioned this to someone in private conversation early today, and I tried to bite my tongue now... I will probably get lambasted for this...

At least in my area, I don't think any of the small batch collection is worth the price they charge for it. This may put me in a very small minority (of one, even?), but there are many less expensive bourbons that I would rather drink. I keep all of the Small Batch collection on hand for guests, since they are the most well known "premium" bourbons, but I rarely if ever drink them on my own.

Gillman
02-02-2005, 13:11
I tend to agree. Except for Booker's, Woodford Reserve trumps anything in that line-up, I think; so do a number of Heaven Hill bourbons.

I like Jim Beam Black Label though, I think that is the best of the Beam bourbons, an excellent product.

Gary

wrbriggs
02-02-2005, 13:44
I tend to agree. Except for Booker's, Woodford Reserve trumps anything in that line-up, I think, so do a number of Heaven Hill bourbons.

I like Jim Beam Black Label though, I think that is the best of the Beam bourbons, an excellent product.

Gary


If I'm drinking a Beam product, there's a 90% change that it's Beam Black in my glass. The value on Beam Black makes it hard for me to drink the other Beam products with any regularity.

cowdery
02-02-2005, 16:31
I think Knob Creek, the least expensive of the four, is worth its price. I like Baker's and Booker's but rarely buy them because there are so many cheaper products I like just as well, if not better. I do have a drinking buddy who likes them so when we go out for drinks, that's usually what I have. I know, crazy. I won't pay off-premise prices for them but I will pay the even more outrageous on-premise prices. Oh yeah, did I mention the buddy is also a client?

Interestingly, this drinking usually takes place in a bar less than a mile from Jim Beam's corporate headquarters. I always warn my friend to be careful what he says about the whiskey, because the person at the next table could be a Beam exec. Actually, that happened to us once, but luckily it was someone I knew.

BrbnBorderline
02-02-2005, 16:33
I've tried Baker's several times. It was very good - until I tried Weller Antique. For a 107 proof bourbon, Weller Antique beats Baker's at half the price. There are other 107 proof bourbons out there that are better and cheaper than Baker's.

Now, Booker's is the only readily available 125+ bourbon around. IMHO, it's in a league of it's own [especially given it's wide spread availablility.].

Tonight I might crack open the ER Single barrel I picked up at lunch today.

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wrbriggs
02-02-2005, 17:04
I think Knob Creek, the least expensive of the four, is worth its price.


I guess that's where I run into a problem... Knob Creek is very close to Baker's in price up here, around $30.

jeff
02-02-2005, 18:19
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BobA
02-02-2005, 19:17
I made an Old Fashion with OGD BIB. I haven't made too many cocktails - usually drink neat - but while the OGD makes the best Manhattan of those I tried, I think the VOB 90 may have been a better Old Fashion. Maybe a difference in technique; like I said, I haven't made many cocktails. But the VOB has certainly impressed, esp. since it is the cheapest 750 bottle I have, including Rebel Yell.

BobA
02-02-2005, 19:20
I had my first Baker's the other night. "Sweet nutiness" is a good phrase. I also think I found the "dry yeast" some have talked about.
Bob

angelshare
02-02-2005, 19:30
Given that this is a special week for us, I'm having my second pour in three days of Evan Williams Millenium. I'm getting a very delicate floral nose with a hint of caramel in the background. That characteristic Heaven Hill (grassy?) flavor is a bit more understated in this bottle (decanter) but definitely there. The finish is a bit hot and spicy, even after a splash of water to open things up, but there is a nice lingering woody/oaky bite that I like a lot.

All in all, I think the EW SB 1994 and probably other vintages are as good if not a little better, but this is quite enjoyable. And it's fun pouring out of a globe. I had one of the "leaky" ones, so I didn't think it was such a big deal to open it and enjoy.

ratcheer
02-02-2005, 19:43
Ah, ranking the Beam Small Batch Collection. Interesting.

1) Booker's
2) Knob Creek
3) Baker's

I can't honestly rank Basil Hayden's, as I have never tasted it. But, I do not drink 80 proof whiskey, as a rule.

Tim

BrbnBorderline
02-02-2005, 20:17
Tim,

Great minds think alike. that's how I rank them, too.

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bluesbassdad
02-03-2005, 21:56
Wild Turkey 101.

After I spent 20 or more hours over the last several days trying to dog-proof 200 feet of chain link fence, one of my wife's dogs, the instigator of this whole episode due to his past escapes, tore through it in less than two hours while we were out shopping early this evening. I would have bet an important body part that he couldn't escape. I'm glad I didn't have that opportunity. (My dog Brewski was safely tucked away indoors in his crate.)

I needed a no nonsense, easy to take, guaranteed relaxation agent -- with no distracting nuances. I poured myself a double. I may have another.

(Coded message follows: The Old Rawhide shipment will be delayed another couple of days.)

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

RedVette
02-04-2005, 16:28
Pappy 15.

It is a Friday night, it has been a very full week, and I am on my second Pappy 15, there may be a third and possibly a fourth. This is really good stuff.

mike1
02-04-2005, 18:01
I agree that Bakers is not appreciated or tried often enough. Of course you need a pair of pliers to open the damn thing,but that aside it has a wonderful snap of rye that dominates , and for 107 proof it is easy to drink neat.

RedVette
02-05-2005, 15:35
Wild Turkey Freedom tonight, been a while since I tapped this bottle. Getting more alcohol burn that I remembered, but also getting the smokey sweet wood that I did remember. Good stuff, too bad it is unavailable except when I travel.

My list; Bakers, Bookers, Knob, Basil. I put JB black between Knob and Basil. I really like the woody/nutty flavor of Bakers.

TNbourbon
02-05-2005, 21:18
Just opened a split-label bottle of Wild Turkey 12yo I found the other day, just to remind myself why I'm hesitant to open the other five I have bunkered. Jeff, here's you some orange-peel candy in a bottle. That's what both the nose and finish bring to mind. On the palate, there is also a look-at-me background of caramel, with the WT trademark spicy heat of the rye. Leather, too.
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Bamber
02-11-2005, 05:45
I cracked open my WT12, the other day and it reminded me of a fruitier, smoother version of the 101 8YO. It is one of the smoothest whisky's I've ever tasted and the mouthfeel reminds me of good Cognac. Unlike Cognac it tasted fantastic.

camduncan
02-11-2005, 06:46
I was looking for something different to take to a night out tonight.....ended up grabbing a bottle of Virgin Bourbon.
Absolutely fantastic http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif Nice orange hints with a fruity finish. A smooth tasting bourbon with a good kick... A very sharp contrast to the Bulleit that we were drinking every other as well.
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BrbnBorderline
02-11-2005, 23:32
tonight it was the working man's WT 101. Always good.

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mobourbon
02-12-2005, 10:07
We finally got the Evan Williams Single Barrel ' 95 in PA. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I bought a bottle yesterday. It is great! I noticed a big difference from the '94. The '95 has a strong vanilla taste up front. It's not as spicy as I like. But very delicious! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

TNbourbon
02-12-2005, 22:10
Fred, we also received our first '95 EWSB (Barrel 72) Thursday. We've already sold two of the six-bottle case. One of the buyers returned today and noted a 'creaminess' to it. That is exactly the term Gary and Mardee Regan use in their "Ardent Spirits" newsletter to describe its difference to previous EWSBs. I'm anxious to try it, but did not yet buy a bottle since I have half remaining in my open '94.
Last night, I had that '94 EWSB, along with a couple of ounces each of EW1783 and HH 10yo BIB. Sort of a Heaven Hill comparison theme. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif
For tonight's motif, I am attempting to at least sample some of each of the 90-proof whiskeys I have open, which include OC "Classic 12" (Louisville rendition), ER17 '04, Old Fitz 1849, Sazerac rye '04, Van Winkle 12yo Old Time rye, Weller Special Reserve 7yo (Louisville/Stitzel-Weller distillate) and Yellowstone (current Sherman bottling). The pours will be shallow, or I won't remember much about the latter ones http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif.
If I make it through all of them tonight, I guess tomorrow will be whatever's left (WT12, here I come -- again! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif).

Jono
02-12-2005, 22:24
WT 101..see my short post under Other A.W.

mobourbon
02-13-2005, 08:01
Tim, the strong vanilla I got must be the creaminess the Regans mention. Ours bottles are from barrel #130. Barreled 8-17-95 and bottled 2-1-05! I never drank a bourbon 10 days after bottling. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ratcheer
02-13-2005, 10:17
That (WT 101) is what I had with my Valentine's dinner, last night. Everything was superb. $13 per pound filet mignon, pan broiled in butter an extra virgin olive oil. Large gourmet Idaho potatoes, baked. Spinach souffle. French Bordeaux wine. Caramel frosted layer cake. Heavenly!

Tim

wrbriggs
02-13-2005, 10:39
For me it was Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve. I find this far, far better than the bottle of Rare Breed that I have tried. I would have to rank RR in my top 5 bourbons.

mike1
02-13-2005, 13:52
I was drinking some old grand dad 114 other night, and just happened to see on the label that it came from frankfort-clermont ky.My regular bottle of ogd was labelled the same. I know that these brands were at one time owned by national distillers in Frankfort, but that was 20+ years ago. I checked all of my beam products and some are labelled just clermont and some are labelled clermont-frankfort. If Beam is in clermont and boston why the use of frankfort on the label?

TNbourbon
02-13-2005, 14:02
Both Old Grand-Dad and Old Taylor were once distilled in Frankfort, which is why Beam wants in on the label. Fortunately for them, the registered agent for Jim Beam Brands also has a Frankfort address, according to the KY Secretary of State's business search engine.
Kentucky SOS business database search (http://www.sos.state.ky.us/obdb/(2t0mxkabistbjr55qxwunz45)/default.aspx)

boone
02-13-2005, 15:22
Jim Beam, has a facility in Frankfort. I met Peter Sobel, during the grand opening of the visitor center. I knew he was from Beam's...Sooooooo...I asked him who the "The Big Cheese" in the group with Freddy Noe?...He laughed, and then said, "you got that one right" http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif He is the Senior Vice President of Jim Beam, Harry Groth http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

I went over and introduced myself http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif They were a really great group of guys http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I took alot of pictures. I was afraid that I would forget thier names...I grabbed Peter, and asked him to write down all the names so that when I posted thier pictures, I would get it right...He kindly took the time and wrote down everyone's names and titles...I asked him to write his name and title...He wrote...Peter Sobel, Plant Manager, Jim Beam, Frankfort.

Bettye Jo

BSS
02-13-2005, 17:33
Jim Beam has a plant called "Old Grand Dad" on the east side of Frankfort. They also use Old Crow which has a Frankfort address.

doubleblank
02-14-2005, 08:59
I'm traveling with Val on business this week.....in Las Vegas. Last night it was the Old Rip Van Winkle 10/90 older version at the bar in Delmonico's follwed by a Blanton's at the MGM. First time for the ORVW 10/90 as I've always bought the 107. The bar here also has the Pappy 20 and 23......may try those tonight.

Randy

clayton
02-14-2005, 09:27
Last night was OGD114, one of my favorites, which I introduced to a few friends, as well.

There was some skepticism surrounding the fact that it was "old grand dad", which certain people believed to be bottom-shelf swill. All of this skepticism disappeared with their first nosings and sips. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gillman
02-14-2005, 09:32
Randy, across the street from MGM Grand is an Irish-style pub in the hotel, the one you reach by walking over the enclosed (as I recall) cross-walk, it is the bar in New York New York. On the second floor of the bar (up a staircase) is a smaller bar that has a selection of Irish whiskeys. One of them is a pure pot still whiskey from 1951, I believe the name (this from memory) is Knappogue. There are also modern Knappogues but the one I am referring to is from 1951 or 1950. It may have another name but they only have one whisky from 1951 and it is about $50 a shot so you will quickly find the one I mean if interested. This pot still was made at the time from unmalted barley, raw barley and "small grains" usually being rye and/or oats. Today, Irish pot still only uses malted and raw barley, no rye or oats. Apparently the small grains gave a rich complexity, making it somewhat akin I have heard to rye-recipe bourbons and this old style of pot still may have been the origin of the American idea of small grains. If you are interested to try this a review posted on the board would be most interesting. I wanted to try it and it was not the money that stopped me but the fact of it being midnight after a long night of dining and sipping and my palate was shot, it wouldn't have made much impression. If you try it, I recommend trying it against a modern Irish pot still, say Redbreast or Powers (Power is 80% pot still, close enough) or Jameson 15 or 18 year old. Maybe the name was Midelton not Knappogue but as I say there is only one whisky from 1950 or '51 there at $50 or so the shot, so you will find it unless their supply is exhausted but I am sure they still have some, I was there only a few months ago. If it was me trying it I'd try to determine, (i) its essential taste attributes, (ii) how it compares to modern Irish pot still, (iii) whether this Irish 1951 pot still shows any possible connection to U.S. straight whiskey in terms of flavor.

Oh also if you do this, don't use ice. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Best wishes, and to Val

Gary

BrbnBorderline
02-14-2005, 11:36
Good stuff, Clayton!!!

Last night was Weller Antique.

Saturday night I had VWFR Rye, and then followed it with Weller Antique - wow - what a combo. The lingering finish on the VWFR Rye really brought out a butter toffee flavor in the Weller.

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doubleblank
02-14-2005, 12:46
Gary.....Thanks for the suggestion.....a pot still from 1950 sounds interesting. If I don't get over there tonight, then next time for sure. Tonight is, of course, Valentines Day and if my palate isn't shot early, then we'll head over and give it a try. Or, better yet, go this afternoon when I know I'm in good shape. I'll post my thoughts if I get over there.

Randy

Gillman
02-14-2005, 15:04
Great, I thought it might be of interest if you had time and it worked into the schedule. But if not, another time to be sure; those bottles don't go that fast, of that I have no doubt. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

jeff
02-14-2005, 19:41
For http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/kiss.gifValentines Dayhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/kiss.gif Leslie bought me a couple of crystal brandy snifters. Tonight, after a bit of Champagne, I'm breaking them in with a bit of Blanton's, followed by a small pour of Four Roses Single Barrel.

wrbriggs
02-14-2005, 19:54
Wish I could get Four Roses SB. Just came back from dinner out with my wife, and I think that I'll have some Pappy 20 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

TNbourbon
02-16-2005, 22:15
This thread is getting long, and I'd guess I've posted in it at least 5 times (I'm not going back and counting!), so tonight I just surveyed my field of open bottles (not counting the several 200mls I have for cooking and sometime-sipping):

<ul type="square"> I have 13 regular-sized bottles (750ml-1.75L) open: 8 rye-flavored bourbons, 2 straight ryes, and 3 "wheaties";
the average stated age (4 years old is assumed if no age statement) of the whiskeys is 10.9 years;
the average proof is 93.8: 2 under 90-proof (not a single 80), 7 between 90-99 proof; and 4 at least 100 proof.
[/list]

From glancing at these facts, I've gleaned or confirmed several things about my bourbon habits (note that I recently finished my open bottle of Stagg, or both average age and proof would be somewhat higher):

<ul type="square"> I prefer bourbons in the 10-12yo range;
I like a proof high enough to deliver flavor, yet not so high I require dilution;
I enjoy the styles of whiskeys (rye-flavored, straight rye, and wheat-flavored) about equally, as they are represented in proportions which approximate their shares in the market.
[/list]

And, finally, this recitation may be of interest only to me.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/horseshit.gif But, you gotta admit, it's original.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/spin_icon.gif

stoopsie
02-18-2005, 18:23
So, at 5:29 PM I opened my bottle of 2004 Birthday Bourbon to toast the time and day of my birth and then called my mom to thank her. We toasted and I have been smiling ever since. I am approaching the mid-line of life and so I think it is time celebrate and from this day forward no american whiskey shall be saved for that special moments. All moments are special. Having friends, seeing my children grow and spending my best years of my life with my wife Sandy. I just can't stop smiling. So, stop by when you are in the area, and have a smile with me. Got to quit typing now and have a second glass of Birthday Bourbon. Heck, It is my birthday and I deserve it.

Howie

jeff
02-19-2005, 03:58
Happy Birthday Howie, sounds lik it was a good one! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

dgonano
02-19-2005, 17:23
Same here, Happy B-day Howie. Hope you're enjoying your day.

joe1974
02-23-2005, 20:29
This evening I am sipping on Knob Creek (sounds more suggestive than I wanted it to). It's my first bottle, and I'm slow to warm up to it. Hopefully it will grow on me. What do you suppose they consider "small batch" at Jim Beam anyway?

gr8erdane
02-24-2005, 13:37
As much Knob Creek as I see around I'd think "small batch" was anything less than half the production capacity of the distillery. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif