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brian12069
04-02-2005, 05:44
Anyone ever heard of or tried Pure Kentucky? I'm in upstate NY and had never seen it before. It is a 107 proof 15 year, comes in a nice velvet bag and it is absolutely DELICIOUS!

wadewood
04-02-2005, 09:31
This is from Kentucky Bourbon Distillers, Ltd. (http://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/) It is listed in their small batch collection.

ratcheer
04-02-2005, 10:36
I saw it when I was shopping in Atlanta a few years ago, but I passed it up because of the high price (I think it was $50). It looked good, though.

Tim

brian12069
04-02-2005, 23:03
This was like $26.00...

robbyvirus
04-03-2005, 00:01
I picked up a bottle of this last summer when I went through Kentucky. I like it a lot...it's very tasty, and a bit woody, which I like. I think I paid about $26 for it, and it's well worth it. I've never seen it outside of Kentucky.

brian12069
04-03-2005, 05:43
My friend owns a liquor store so I'm able to get a lot of neat things. I saw it in one of his catalogs and and to try it because I had never heard of it.

drew_kulsveen
04-03-2005, 15:04
Pure Kentucky is not 15 years old, but rather a blend of 10-12YR Bourbon. If the retailer is asking $50.00 a bottle, I probably would never step foot in that store again. A reasonable price would range from $30-35. It is an excellent bourbon, a true small batch, and it also won a Double Gold at the San Francisco Spirits Competition this year.

brian12069
04-03-2005, 15:27
Says right on the back...handmade in 1988 bottled in 2003...thats 15 years my friend

TNbourbon
04-03-2005, 17:13
Well, Drew's family bottled it, so...

Plus, bourbon doesn't always remain barreled between distilling and bottling dates. So, if a bourbon distilled in 1988, for example, is transferred from barrels to stainless steel tanks -- as Julian has done with his rye -- in 1998 or 2000, it would be between 10 and 12 years old forever, regardless of when it was later bottled.

ratcheer
04-03-2005, 20:13
Maybe I am mis-remembering the price. It was about three years ago or maybe even four.

Tim

ratcheer
04-03-2005, 20:16
If it was bottled in 2003, then I couldn't have seen it three or four years ago. Maybe I am completely mis-remembering it!

Tim

drew_kulsveen
04-03-2005, 21:01
We don't store our whiskey in stainless especially in such a small batch of 5-10 barrels.

Virus_Of_Life
04-09-2006, 19:20
OK, hope I don't get in trouble for posting in such an old thread but I just came across one of those deals I couldn't refuse. This place I was in today is apparently trying to clear out there Pure Kentucky XO and have it marked down to $15.99, needless to say I COULD NOT pass up one and probably should have bought them all I know it's typically a ~$26 bourbon.

So I have searched and searched and really cannot find much info on this, I don't plan to open it for a while, other than a one person who liked it very much (Brian12069). That was a while ago so I am hoping to somewhat revive this dead thread, you like that rhyme? and get some further info.

Thanks!

brian12069
04-09-2006, 19:43
You got a good deal!

robbyvirus
04-09-2006, 23:10
I've started seeing Pure Kentucky out here in California recently at BevMo. Before that I'd only seen it in Kentucky, so maybe they're going for a wider distribution. I enjoy this bourbon quite a lot...definitely a no-brainer if you can get it for $15.99!!

BourbonJoe
04-10-2006, 01:16
I know in one of our very early bourbon tastings, Pure Kentucky XO, 11 y/o, 107 Proof won against Sam Houston and Old Charter Proprieters Reserve.

photogjunkie
04-10-2006, 09:53
Funny this thread should appear. I was in Houston this weekend and stopped in at Spec's to pick up some Buffalo Trace which is not available in the Austin market. While I was there, I also grabbed a bottle of the Pure Kentucky XO which I had heard about, but never tried. The price was fair at $26.00 and my bottle says the pour was put in oak in July 1992 and bottled in December 2005. Haven't opened it yet, but it is in line.

Virus_Of_Life
04-10-2006, 10:17
Yeah that is why I was asking, I will not get around to opening it for a while either. I wanted to know, and think I do now, if I should go get the other 2 at that good of a price, I'll get over there this weekend - I just wonder if they'll mark it down even further in the next few weeks if it sits there...

Sijan
06-23-2006, 03:24
I tried all four of the small batch boutique collection bourbons at WhiskyFestNY a couple years ago and Pure Kentucky and Noah's Mill were my two favorites of the lot.

Curious what others think of Pure Kentucky if they've had a chance to try it since acquisition...?

cowdery
06-23-2006, 12:35
I don't know if there is a Pure Kentucky other than the Pure Kentucky XO, but I find the Pure Kentucky XO to be over-the-hill wood-wise, just too much.

photogjunkie
06-23-2006, 14:02
Opened and finished my bottle of Pure Kentucky XO about a month or so ago. Very hearty and full-bodied, and over the top in oak. Maybe a year or two less time in the barrel would have improved the pour, but all in all, it is what it is...and that is some pretty good 107 proof bourbon.

Virus_Of_Life
06-23-2006, 15:30
I suspect this is one that varies greatly depending on the batch as I have one opened that is not in the least woody to me. My last ETL and RHF were so woody by comparison that I felt I was chewing on a bourbon soaked 2x8! And I am no beaver, even though I come from the beaver state...

Anyway I have the one open PK XO that I enjoy quite a bit and another from a different batch that has not been opened yet. IIRC the ages on the two are different.

Sijan
06-24-2006, 02:50
I suspect this is one that varies greatly depending on the batch as I have one opened that is not in the least woody to me.

You may be right. I don't recall noticing any strong woodiness in my taste of Pure Kentucky, and I'm generally pretty sensitive to that sort of thing. Of course, I'd also had quite a bit of bourbon by that point in the night, so my taste buds were probably not in the best shape ever.

cowdery
06-24-2006, 16:11
I suspect this is one that varies greatly depending on the batch ...

Without question that is the case, as the producer of Pure Kentucky XO is a bottler but not a distiller who is at the mercy of his bulk whiskey suppliers. This difficulty maintaining consistency from batch to batch is one of the many reasons I don't have much interest in these non-distiller bottlings.

Virus_Of_Life
06-26-2006, 21:34
This difficulty maintaining consistency from batch to batch is one of the many reasons I don't have much interest in these non-distiller bottlings.

Good point Chuck and further reason I don't really understand the distiller selling bulk whiskey to others to be bottled under a different name...

cowdery
06-27-2006, 01:04
...I don't really understand the distiller selling bulk whiskey to others to be bottled under a different name...

It's just another revenue stream. They're in the business of making and selling whiskey. This is just another way to sell their product.

Only Heaven Hill does it as a standard part of their business, but everyone will sell bulk whiskey under the right circumstances. What are the right circumstances? (1) The distiller doesn't need it to fill existing demand for their brands, and (2) there is someone willing to buy it for a profitable sum.

Part of the reason the industry needs bulk sales is because of the long lead time necessary for production planning, due to the aging cycle. A distiller sells its bottled products via orders from distributors. It's good to have enough product to fill all the orders, but that probably means you have some left over. (Better that than not having enough.) Having another way to sell it is good business.

NorCalBoozer
06-27-2006, 20:58
Without question that is the case, as the producer of Pure Kentucky XO is a bottler but not a distiller who is at the mercy of his bulk whiskey suppliers. This difficulty maintaining consistency from batch to batch is one of the many reasons I don't have much interest in these non-distiller bottlings.

Chuck...would a bottler bother to mingle barrels together to help improve the taste? Or do they simply bottle what they purchase directly from the distiller?

Even if they couldn't meet a standard profile from bottling to bottling, it would make sense to vat stuff (especially if they buy from more than one distiller) and hopefully be able to create an improved taste profile for their label(s).

Greg.

cowdery
06-28-2006, 01:43
Chuck...would a bottler bother to mingle barrels together to help improve the taste? Or do they simply bottle what they purchase directly from the distiller?

Even if they couldn't meet a standard profile from bottling to bottling, it would make sense to vat stuff (especially if they buy from more than one distiller) and hopefully be able to create an improved taste profile for their label(s).

Greg.

They do what they can with what they have at any given moment. If they have a contract with the distiller, they may be getting some consistent product, but many of these guys are buying on the spot market, which is pretty much catch as catch can.

Virus_Of_Life
06-28-2006, 23:23
I tried some of this again tonite and cannot say a single bad thing about it, I think it is wonderful - too bad I don't know where it was actually distilled.

I am still bothered and always will be about the selling of bulk. Maybe I just view it wrong, but if KBD buys bulk from HH does that mean that what turns into PK XO or even Vintage xx year was distilled as the same stuff that could have ended up being Elijah C. or Evan W.? I apologize for my ignorance if I am totally off on this.

I guess all that matters in the end is if I enjoy what I bought for the price I paid....

jburlowski
06-29-2006, 16:06
This difficulty maintaining consistency from batch to batch is one of the many reasons I don't have much interest in these non-distiller bottlings.

Chuck, as usual you are correct the quality can vary. But it can with "big name" bourbons as well; e.g., EC 12 and recently Blanton's.

Part of the joy is exploring and trying new pours. If I find a really good one (like a recent Noah's Mill) I'll grab another from the same batch number (or a least from the same store's selection).

I always find them at least "interesting" and sometimes outstanding....

camduncan
06-29-2006, 16:11
It's just another revenue stream. They're in the business of making and selling whiskey. This is just another way to sell their product.

Only Heaven Hill does it as a standard part of their business, but everyone will sell bulk whiskey under the right circumstances. What are the right circumstances? (1) The distiller doesn't need it to fill existing demand for their brands, and (2) there is someone willing to buy it for a profitable sum.

Part of the reason the industry needs bulk sales is because of the long lead time necessary for production planning, due to the aging cycle. A distiller sells its bottled products via orders from distributors. It's good to have enough product to fill all the orders, but that probably means you have some left over. (Better that than not having enough.) Having another way to sell it is good business.

Australia has quite a few lables that are sold in this way..... (even Jim Beam White Label is shipped here in barrels and bottled at the lower proof of 37.5%)
Most noteable of these (I think) is Cougar bourbon. I think I read somewhere that this comes from Wild Turkey? Does anyone know for sure?

Sweetmeats
12-26-2006, 16:12
Got my third botle of Pure Kentucky XO for Christmas. I'm not sure what it is about this bourbon that I really enjoy but it is truly one of my favorites. It bugs me that I don't know what to attribute it to, whether it's the distiller or recipe or what since what makes up these bottlings seems very hush hush. Truth be told, I wouldn't have ever bought it if my wife didn't spring it on me for Christmas last year. The reviews didn't appear to be gushing but I didn't want to hurt her feelings and take it back. I'm glad I opened it. I worry that I'll hit a bad batch one of these days though and it will sour me for it but so far...3 out of 3 over a year span from different stores is a good track record. Anyone know where this whiskey is distilled and if all bottlings comes from the same age barrels and what not?

Gillman
12-26-2006, 16:40
The other board has a taste note reporting very good things about the current bottling; your opinion adds weight to this view.

Gary

drli
01-06-2007, 20:56
I would try it for $17 or even for $26.. but its $39 at bevmo... so i think I will pass.

HighTower
01-06-2007, 23:41
Australia has quite a few lables that are sold in this way..... (even Jim Beam White Label is shipped here in barrels and bottled at the lower proof of 37.5%)
Most noteable of these (I think) is Cougar bourbon. I think I read somewhere that this comes from Wild Turkey? Does anyone know for sure?

I was wondering about that myself Cam....I'm not a fan of normal Cougar, but I do like the Cougar XS (86 proof). It would surprise me if it came from Wild Turkey, as I am not a fan of their 86.8, I find it too raw. Although if they did make it - it could be a different recipe they use....I love the 8yo 101 though, and of course the others.....:grin:

Scott

Old Lamplighter
01-08-2007, 22:37
Without question that is the case, as the producer of Pure Kentucky XO is a bottler but not a distiller who is at the mercy of his bulk whiskey suppliers. This difficulty maintaining consistency from batch to batch is one of the many reasons I don't have much interest in these non-distiller bottlings.

While not trying to shift the course of this thread, is PKXO akin to Kentucky Vintage? I had a bottle of it at one time in the past and it was pretty good - worth the $20 I paid. I have only seen one bottle since and it sits in a store I rarely visit for $27 - figured that was too much. Seems like there was some link to PKXO - maybe not same source, but same bottler?

JRomain
01-09-2007, 02:01
I picked up a bottle of this last summer when I went through Kentucky. I like it a lot...it's very tasty, and a bit woody, which I like. I think I paid about $26 for it, and it's well worth it. I've never seen it outside of Kentucky.
I scored a bottle in Southern Indiana (in New Albany, on the KY border) the other day for somewhere around $25-$30. I'll post some notes once I open it. I was far morei mpresed with the Noah's Mill than the Kentucky Vintage, though. The Noah's was very longm and like an explosion of violets and lavender. Since I'd never had anything from this distillery, I opted for the two cheaper ones instead of the two higher-end ones. I hope the Pure Kentucky delivers, because, like I said, the Kentucky Vintage seemed simplistic and lacking in depth.

cowdery
01-09-2007, 02:13
While not trying to shift the course of this thread, is PKXO akin to Kentucky Vintage? I had a bottle of it at one time in the past and it was pretty good - worth the $20 I paid. I have only seen one bottle since and it sits in a store I rarely visit for $27 - figured that was too much. Seems like there was some link to PKXO - maybe not same source, but same bottler?

They're both from KBD, but I can't say if they are similar or not.

JRomain
01-09-2007, 02:17
While not trying to shift the course of this thread, is PKXO akin to Kentucky Vintage? I had a bottle of it at one time in the past and it was pretty good - worth the $20 I paid. I have only seen one bottle since and it sits in a store I rarely visit for $27 - figured that was too much. Seems like there was some link to PKXO - maybe not same source, but same bottler?
Same bottler.
http://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/kentucky_vintage.php

I'd still llike to know who the distiller is. Perhaps drew_kulsveen can clarify for us?

Sweetmeats
04-29-2007, 16:50
Is this being discontinued?

I walked into my local Bevmo on Friday and they had two bottles on clearance for 24 dollars. I bought one and came home and tasted it. Better tasting than the usual ones so I went back today to try and get the other. It was marked down to 16 dollars now. You better believe I bought it. Great prices but it saddens me if this stuff is gone for good.

cowdery
04-30-2007, 19:05
It is still on their website (http://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/products.php), and I think I saw it on their table at WhiskeyFest. They didn't have a table at the Sampler. Drew may check in, but you can always PM him. He responds to inquiries.

Brennan77
04-30-2007, 19:50
Is this being discontinued?

I walked into my local Bevmo on Friday and they had two bottles on clearance for 24 dollars. I bought one and came home and tasted it. Better tasting than the usual ones so I went back today to try and get the other. It was marked down to 16 dollars now. You better believe I bought it. Great prices but it saddens me if this stuff is gone for good.

It's still on shelves in Louisiana. I haven't heard anything about them taking them off the shelves. Pure Kentucky, Kentucky Vintage, and Rowan's Creek are go to bourbons for me.

Sweetmeats
05-01-2007, 08:36
Thanks for the advice Chuck. I sent him a PM.

NickAtMartinis
12-21-2007, 21:19
After having read the first two pages of this thread and another, I began to look forward to this bourbon.

Boy, was that a bad idea. Not unlike Bob Crane's friend, John Carpenter, this stuff is unlikeable!!!! There is such an overpowering sweetness and an absolute lack of melding flavors. Just weird!

I've had bourbon that I haven't liked but appreciated, if you know what I mean. As an example, I first tried WTT and didn't like it upon first tasting, but at least I had a respect for the type of bourbon. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't, at the time (by bottle's end I loved it!) a flavor profile I adhored. This stuff is something totally different.

NickAtMartinis
12-21-2007, 21:43
Just so that you know what bottle I'm talking about, here's the info:


Distilled: 1/15/96
Bottled: 7/12/06