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jeff
04-28-2005, 04:29
As you're sitting in front of your computer reading this forum, what's in your glass? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif

Tallica
04-28-2005, 05:28
OFFBB Spring 1990, definetly one of my favourites http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

wrbriggs
04-28-2005, 07:05
Well, right this second I'm not drinking anything... but already I can tell that this day is going to call for some serious... tasting... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smiley_acbt.gif

So, with that in mind, I will probably have one of my work buddies over to the house and sit back with a few pours of ERSB or Old Forrester 100 proof (or both!) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif.

Cheers! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

RedVette
04-28-2005, 16:12
George T Stagg, 131.8 Spring 2005 Lot B. I would concur with the distillery, "robust" is an appropriate description. I'm not a good enough taster to taste the orange that others have found, but I have oak and anisette in abundance.

nysquire
04-28-2005, 16:26
A little Rock Hill to get started and on to some Blanton's.
ORVW 15yo 107 for a night cap...... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

jeff
04-28-2005, 16:29
I'm also having a small pour of Spring Stagg. The predominant aroms is...hops. That's right, hops. Not from the bourbon mind you, but I just finished racking an IPA from primary to secondary and I have Centennial hop residue on my hands from where I am dry-hopping for aroma.

Ahem...back to the bourbon. I get the citrus notes upon which others have commented, but I also get a good dose of spice (allspice, nutmeg, cinnimon). So the underlying flavor/aroma is of russian/spice tea. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

dhooch
04-28-2005, 18:21
Except for the Blanton's, that's my ultimate combination! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

dhooch
04-28-2005, 18:24
How is the Spring Stagg compared to last year's Stagg? (Same style/quality, better, not as good, etc.)

jeff
04-28-2005, 19:53
I happen to prefer last years to all others, but this is still quite good! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

dhooch
04-29-2005, 16:20
Thanks. I will bring a bottle to the Gazebo Saturday night. If we don't drink it, maybe someone will want it real bad. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

RedVette
04-29-2005, 16:58
Since I am feeling sorry for myself as I am not going to Kentucky this weekend, I have been pulling out the good stuff. Last night was GTS, tonight Pappy 15. Tomorrow night, I don't know, but I do know it will be rare and expensive.

robbyvirus
04-29-2005, 22:49
I'm drinking Russell's Reserve, the way it was meant to be: 100 proof! And man, is it good!

musher
04-30-2005, 04:25
So, how much water do you have to add, then to get it from the bottle proof of 101 down to 100? Do you use an eye dropper to measure it out? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

(Sorry for the sarcasm . . . . Besides, I would imagine that the stuff in the bottle can vary by a percent or two from the stated proof.)

Edward_call_me_Ed
04-30-2005, 07:20
My Russell's Reserve is a memory, have to get another bottle soon. But the WT Rare Breed that I have is enough to keep me happy!

Tonight I started with a few sips from a flask of Blanton's Gold. Long break then I opened a bottle of Fighting Cock 103 proof 15 year old. Good stuff. A nice spicy bourbon, very flavorful. The finish is a little short. So, I went back to the Blanton's Gold. Sigh happily and enjoy the finish.... Then a pour of a 'lesser' Blanton's. Good, no, Great whiskey, but not as good as the Gold. Then there is the Blanton's of fond memory.... A bottle long dead, but much loved. I can't bring myself to throw it out somehow. I might have, just a sip, of the Rare Breed before I go to bed.
Ed

voigtman
04-30-2005, 16:32
This morning, I finally got the chance to buy George T. Stagg Spring, 2005, Lot B (131.8 proof), so I just opened a bottle and poured a glass. (Thanks for that opportunity, fine control state north of my "could even mess up a free lunch" "free" state!) Even on the first small sip, this is luxurious, definitive bourbon. I just don't see how bourbon could get better than this. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif And it doesn't need anything added, not even a drop of water. Wow, hats off to Buffalo Trace and all the good folks there! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif Ed V., finally able to join in the fun of the last two LONG months.

ej178
05-01-2005, 20:24
Two fingers of Weller Antique with one ice cube.

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-02-2005, 06:42
Old Grand Dad 114 with a dollop of water. I always drink my whiskey neat (Booker's, no problem), but the 114 with its high proof plis rye burn has made me cry uncle. Wonderful bourbon. Has anyone compared the regular OGD, neat, to the 114 cut to the same proof?
Ed
PS. I may need to rethink the Edward_call_me_Ed. Where did all these Eds come from? I go years without meeting another Ed. I can't even use the first letter of my last name, 'V' is taken. Edward doesn't work either, only my mom calls me that and only when she is mad...

CrispyCritter
05-02-2005, 19:02
Knob Creek 9yo/100, bottled for Sam's Wine & Spirits.

Intensely sweet, with some orange and spice in the finish and a nice burn to it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Next up, I'm going to pop open the bottle of '05 Stagg that has been staring at me for over a week. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

TNbourbon
05-02-2005, 19:30
I am visiting distant lands tonight -- enjoying a pair of recently-acquired Heaven Hill products not generally seen here -- the Rittenhouse 10yo BIB rye (from a 700ml bottle), and an Evan Williams 15yo (Japan bottling).
The Rittenhouse is voluptuous, as ryes go, with summer-garden florals, pepper grass and burnt caramel on the nose, followed by a butterscotchy spice flavor and medium-long, menthol finish. It's a different breed of cat from the wonderful-too Eastern ryes lately enjoyed in Bardstown.
Just as the EWSB is a richer, deeper version of the EW1783, this 15yo is another step up the ladder (or deeper into the barrel, perhaps). It has the dry, soft tannins of a mature red wine, but the buttery mouthfeel of a dessert Sauternes. Lovely, caramel-nut nose, lingering finish. Very nice.

lakegz
05-02-2005, 21:50
Booker's neat from a snifter. surprisingly its been very smooth.

Gillman
05-03-2005, 03:39
Tim has the Rittenhouse profile nailed. The menthol is an HH trademark seen in some of its bourbons, too. Only the Elijah Craig 18 year old shows enough age to efface that quality and bring out others. Bettye Jo had brought a barrel sample of HH bourbon to Gazebo Saturday night. I found the high proof and extra lignin sweetness of the uncut bourbon perfectly off-set the menthol quality. The more this kind of bourbon is diluted the less appealing (in my opinion) that menthol/camphor is, and so drinking HH rye or bourbon at 100 proof is an ideal way to taste it since this is high enough to retain the balancing quality I am referring to. But it was quite extraordinary to taste the full uncut version of this kind of straight whiskey, I have never had a whiskey so sweet and rich. Turning to Elijah Craig 18 year old, I tasted it at the tour we did on this trip with John and Linda Lipman of the HH visitor center. I was wowed as they were by the Center, a lot of work and thought went into it, it is a fine tribute to the HH business and whiskey in general in Kentucky. I found the Craig 18 year old very good, showing a complex nose and taste (a perfumed, integrated smokiness) which John said reminded him of certain historical bourbons he has tasted. John noted from the data on the bottles (distillation date and other information plus that received from the tour guide) that some of the 18 year old Craig was actually over 20 years old. The whiskey in the bottle he was inspecting at the tasting bar was actually 24 years old. So EC 18 year old is very well-aged but the samples I had (I also "borrowed" one from next to my seat since it was going unused) were very good, mature but showing no obtruding notes of tannin or smoke. Chuck Cowdery noted in his book that this kind of bourbon (as for Julian's products) beccome something almost different from what we normally think of as bourbon and really are prized specialities with their own characteristics.

Gary

gr8erdane
05-03-2005, 17:12
And for those of you who follow Gary's vatting experiments closely, YES he did create a small vatting of the Craig 18 and EWSB 95 right there in the tasting room. Take it away Gary......

Gillman
05-03-2005, 18:12
Yes I did, and it was good. We had a dry, elegant bourbon and a smoky perfumed older whiskey from the same house - I tried a 50/50 mingling and it worked well. In retrospect I think a 2:l (younger to older) might be better. Another mingling I did on this trip was in my room, a touch of ORVW 13 year old rye (now in Jeff's good hands) added to two fingers of 1993 Ancient Age bottled in bond. Wow. The result was a slight enrichening of the Ancient Age but without the full-on leather and smoke of the ORVW rye. Speaking of minglings, I am studying Dane's Dr. Bourbonstein vatting as I write. This has some 30 or 40 bourbons in it, added in either 1 ounce portions or, for some, a half-ounce. It is very good, a true bourbon whiskey, if one did not know what was in it one would never suspect the diverse origins. It has a good corn smoky base with a textured mouth feel and good follow-through in the taste, good length, that is. A worthy bourbon equivalent to, say, Johnnie Walker Blue Label with its 60 whiskies or so. Well done, Mr. Bennett. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

clayton
05-04-2005, 09:39
I cracked open my first bottle of Ridgemont Reserve 1792 last night. I found it had a somewhat unusual taste -- a candy-corn sweetness on the palate but with a notable barbecue smokiness on the finish.

I'm not entirely sure how it fits into my hierarchy of preferences yet; it will require further tasting. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

matthew0715
05-06-2005, 17:15
But I thought EC18 was a single barrel bourbon? So that one barrel is all one age, at least 18 years old, maybe 20 or 24. How can only some of it be older than 20? Is there another expression of EC that's not single barrel?

Back on topic, I'm drinking OGD BIB tonight. ($16 on sale last month) I've realized the best place to buy bourbon nearby is across the state line in PA. Even though the state controls the pricing, it's nearly all better than the stores near me in NJ. There is a premium collection store less than 30 minutes away. I'll be there soon as EC12 is only $14 this month.

I'm mentally preapring myself for the drive to Brooklyn tomorrow to see Chuck at Lenells. (It's not the distance, it's NYC traffic.) I'm trying to figure out what "three styles" of bourbon we'll be tasting. I thought there were only 2: wheated & ryed. Is straight rye the third type? Or will we sample 3 different distilleries (HH, BT, & JB)? Or maybe 80proof, 100proof (bonded), and barrel-proof?

Matt

CrispyCritter
05-06-2005, 17:52
Well, I started out with (off-topic) a bottle of Chimay Grand Reservé (blue label, 9%) - there's nothing like an ale that's been brewed for the glory of God. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif

Now, back on topic, some Stagg '05 to bring me to cruising altitude and beyond, accompanied by some bluegrass music... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

RedVette
05-06-2005, 18:28
Tonight we started with Buffalo Trace, then a shift to Bulleit, then some more Bulleit and now a nightcap of Bookers. A night of "B's", trying not to think about what the morrow will bring.

nysquire
05-06-2005, 19:29
A little pour of Blanton's before bed.... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

ratcheer
05-07-2005, 14:54
That is always an excellent course of action.

Tim

BourbonJoe
05-07-2005, 17:00
Right now I'm enjoying Michters. Sells for about 50 bucks in PA.....well worth it. So far, have found few to equal it.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

clayton
05-07-2005, 21:28
Last night I poured a bit of Stagg for someone who swore she loved whiskey. Her informed opinion after a few sips: "Well, it just tastes like any other bourbon to me. Better than Jack Daniel's, though." http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif

I suppose it's good to step outside our little world of connoisseurship to realize for some people, that's all this is -- whiskey. Some goes down easier than others, but it's all just whiskey. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

ratcheer
05-08-2005, 05:56
Yes, its like in the 80's when I was deeply into stereo equipment. Some people could hear the nuances between one $3000 pre-amp and another. Other people swore they couldn't hear any difference between a high-end system and their $400 K-Mart system. And I believe they really couldn't.

It is the one-in-twenty rule. 95% of people either don't care about something or they just want the most they can get for their money. 5% become deeply involved in determining all the nuances and, in the end, figuring out what is "best".

Some people couldn't care less if their car was a Corolla or a Lexus, as long as it gets them from point A to point B. Others spend $300,000 on a Ferarri and then thousands more on accessories to make it "better".

Tim

tsangster
05-08-2005, 15:35
Old Grandad 114. Bought a bottle yesterday (Blanton's too). OGD 114 just may be my favorite in the price range.

camduncan
05-08-2005, 15:57
Alas I am attempting to have a month off drinking http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
So far last week was the worst week of the year http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-08-2005, 17:07
Good on you, Cameron.
Think of it as clearing your palate! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Ed

gr8erdane
05-08-2005, 17:48
Alright everyone, you heard the word, let's all pitch in and keep the industry afloat by drinking Cam's share of bourbon for the month. Drink one for the Cammer! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

camduncan
05-08-2005, 17:53
Dane, you are a true gentleman http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

To help drink my share, you'll need to consume anything Van Winkle (10, 12, 13 & 15), Blantons Original, Evan Williams 94 SB or Elijah Craig 12yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif
(I do my best to keep the Buffalo Trace and Heaven Hill Distileries running http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif)

jeff
05-18-2005, 16:37
Tonight I cracked open a new KNob Creek that I purchased for the upcomming BOTM thread. I hadn't partaken of any KC in quite some time. I'm getting a good dose of maple in this pour, a taste I consistantly find in Beam whiskies. I'm looking forward to reading the comparative tasting notes on this one.

BTW, while at Liquor Barn I noticed that many of the Knob Creek bottles have a copper, oval tag around the neck with the Liquor Barn logo etched into it. There was no additional information as to what was special about this bottling. I'm assuming it's a single barrel bottling, but that's just a guess. Anyone know anything about this? FWIW, I purchased a regular KC for our BOTM thread.

Wade
05-20-2005, 20:38
Currently sipping on Rare Breed. I believe this to be the best bourbon I have tried since my journey into bourbonia, which has only been about six months now. Of course I have yet to try some of the higher end bourbons you guys and gals talk about around here so my tune may change later. Actually, this is the highest price bourbon I have tried to date. I do have a bottle of Kentucky Spirit and Van Winkle Lot B but haven't opened them yet.

This seems to be a very well balanced bourbon with its fruity citrus notes up front followed by a little spiciness. At 108 proof this stuff is so surprisingly smooth. Almost too smooth in fact as I tend to drink it a little too fast at times. I almost believe this to be the true nectar of the gods http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif.

This all may change once I pop open that Kentucky Spirit though http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif.

Wade

monte
05-20-2005, 21:42
Currently sipping on Rare Breed. I believe this to be the best bourbon I have tried since my journey into bourbonia, which has only been about six months now. Of course I have yet to try some of the higher end bourbons you guys and gals talk about around here so my tune may change later. Actually, this is the highest price bourbon I have tried to date. I do have a bottle of Kentucky Spirit and Van Winkle Lot B but haven't opened them yet.



If you like Rare Breed, then you should try Russel's Reserve. I personally prefer it to Rare Breed, but still, they share a lot of desirable traits. If you like Russel's Reserve, then I suggest you lay in a stock since the product will be changing to a lower proof sometime soon.

Regards,

-monte-

TNbourbon
05-21-2005, 06:39
...Of course I have yet to try some of the higher end bourbons you guys and gals talk about around here so my tune may change later...



Rare Breed's a fine pour, never mind the price. Don't assume that there is a price/quality correlation, though often there is. The price is as much a function of demand/availability and age (the longer the whiskey's in the barrel, the less of it there is to pay the cost of that barrel when they bottle it).
Don't be afraid to like inexpensive bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. We all do, even while we enjoy the more exotic ones, too. You can easily find quality you can enjoy every night for under $15 a 750ml bottle.

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-21-2005, 07:15
It is important to remember that there are different batches of Rare Breed. I have had two bottles. One is the W-T-01-99 and it is a fine pour. The other I am not sure about. It was decanted from a wood barrel in the store. I tried but could not get a batch number. The second one is far superior to the first. The Russell's reserve falls in between. Three great whiskeys!
Ed

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-21-2005, 07:21
Oh, and I am drinking a pour of Old Forester. I initially didn't like this much. It has grown on me. It tastes pretty fine tonight! Earlier I had a wee bit of OGD 114. Big hit of licorice tonight. I don't think I noticed it before. It might be me rather than the bourbon, so don't take this too seriously if it makes no sense to you. I like the taste of OGD 114 a lot but it usually burns the heck out of my throat. Even with water and I usually drink everything neat. Now, should I have a pour of Rare Breed or stick to Old Forester? And if RB which one?
Ed

Geo
05-21-2005, 11:58
Tonight it will be my new bottle of OLD RIP VAN WINKLE 10 Year old 107 Proof. Its like candy in a bottle. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Wade
05-21-2005, 13:58
If you like Rare Breed, then you should try Russel's Reserve. I personally prefer it to Rare Breed, but still, they share a lot of desirable traits. If you like Russel's Reserve, then I suggest you lay in a stock since the product will be changing to a lower proof sometime soon.



monte,

I have an open bottle of Russell's Reserve as well. In fact, I poured myself some after I finished the Rare Breed. I do like the Reserve but I prefer the taste of this particular bottle of Rare Breed. It seems to hit the spot more than the Reserve does. I had a couple of pours of the Reserve that seemed a little off. It could have been the mood I was in at the time because I have liked it the other times I drank it.

I do plan on picking up a few bottles of the 101 proof Reserve before it disappears from the store shelves. If I hear that Rare Breed is being discontinued then I'll be picking up my first case.

Wade

clayton
05-21-2005, 14:10
Having an afternoon pour of OGD114, myself.
Nice and sweet on a Saturday afternoon.

Wade
05-21-2005, 14:28
Don't be afraid to like inexpensive bourbon . We all do, even while we enjoy the more exotic ones, too. You can easily find quality you can enjoy every night for under $15 a 750ml bottle.



Trust me. I'm not afraid to like an inexpensive drink. Just recently purchased a 1.75L of Makers for $30 at Sam's Club. It's not my everyday drink but I like it well enough to keep around. I believe my everyday/night bourbon of choice right now is Jim Beam Black. This stuff goes down smooth and has a really nice flavor to it. I'm currently out and need to buy another bottle but I'm waiting to see if somebody puts the 1.75L on sale. In the meantime I'll be drinking a bottle of WT 80 that I picked up for under $12. Not my favorite of the Wild Turkey lineup but It'll do just fine.

Wade

monte
05-21-2005, 15:09
I have an open bottle of Russell's Reserve as well. In fact, I poured myself some after I finished the Rare Breed. I do like the Reserve but I prefer the taste of this particular bottle of Rare Breed. It seems to hit the spot more than the Reserve does. I had a couple of pours of the Reserve that seemed a little off. It could have been the mood I was in at the time because I have liked it the other times I drank it.



I think there is some variation in Rare Breed and Russel's Reserve - I've had mixed opinions about both, but found some nice bottles of RR recently.

As long as you're drinking what you like!

-monte-

RedVette
05-21-2005, 18:25
Don't be afraid to like inexpensive bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. We all do, even while we enjoy the more exotic ones, too. You can easily find quality you can enjoy every night for under $15 a 750ml bottle.



Tonight, once again, I am enjoying a nice glass of Elijah Craig 12 yr old. This has become my "go to" whiskey, even though it is surrounded in my collection by Bourbon of three and four times the price. This stuff is just that good.

doc_mcCabe
05-21-2005, 18:47
Right now I'm sipping some Wathen's that I just picked up. It's remarkably floral with strong citrus notes, very unique. The nose is unbelievable and the taste smooth. A very nice addition to anyone's collection. I'd call this a sturdy, spring bourbon.

CrispyCritter
05-21-2005, 18:48
Hmmm... I'm going to have to pick up a bottle of EC some time - it seems to be quite well-liked and it's also inexpensive. A very good combo.

Tonight, on a lovely evening for sitting out on the front porch, I started out with (yeah, off-topic) Talisker 18yo - a wonderful dram if you like Scotch, and not much more than the 10yo version. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I'm now following up with (on-topic) a pour of '05 George T. Stagg.

There's only one problem with Stagg... the whiskey in the bottle has a tendency to vanish. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

gr8erdane
05-21-2005, 19:35
There's only one problem with Stagg... the whiskey in the bottle has a tendency to vanish. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif



I don't consider that a problem as long as you enjoy every drop of it as I do. I figure that if we hadn't been meant to consume bourbon, the good Lord wouldn't have allowed man to make it so TASTY. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

BrbnBorderline
05-21-2005, 20:15
Tonight I'm going blue collar - WT 101. Always good.

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RedVette
05-21-2005, 20:21
Tonight I'm going blue collar - WT 101. Always good.

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The Kickin' Chicken

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sharkman
05-21-2005, 21:58
I figure that if we hadn't been meant to consume bourbon, the good Lord wouldn't have allowed man to make it so TASTY.



AMEN brother Dane!!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif

musher
05-22-2005, 05:16
I figure that if we hadn't been meant to consume bourbon, the good Lord wouldn't have allowed man to make it so TASTY.



AMEN brother Dane!!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif


Or, to hijack another frequently cited quotation . . .

Bourbon is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

BourbonJoe
05-22-2005, 15:12
I'm drinking Evan Williams SB-94. Did anyone try this one back to back with the '95?? What's the verdict? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

mobourbon
05-22-2005, 16:49
The EWSB 95, IMO, is much better than the '94. It has a creamy vanilla taste as soon as it hits the tongue. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-22-2005, 17:45
Just so long as those angles keep to the rick house and away from my bottle!
Ed

BourbonJoe
05-23-2005, 08:38
Thanks Fred,
What does IMO mean?
p.s. we are neighbors. I live in Sinking Spring.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

clayton
05-23-2005, 08:45
IMO = "In My Opinion"

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I opened a bottle of the special non-chillfiltered version of Rock Hill Farms (available from Sam's Wine). It's delicious! Seems thicker and richer than the other RHF I've had, with a sparkle in the finish that commands attention. Excellent stuff.

bluesbassdad
05-23-2005, 22:41
Wild Turkey 12 y/o, for the second night in a row.

When I popped the cork tonight, the aroma of fresh pears enveloped me. I don't recall noticing that element before. In the glass the aroma of pears subsided in favor of caramel. Is there such a think as a caramel pear, in the fashion of a caramel apple? If so, Wild Turkey 12 y/o might be the perfect complement to it.

Perhaps it's the power of my own suggestion, but on the palate I sense the additional flavor of finely chopped peanuts.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

lakegz
05-25-2005, 21:32
Wild Turkey 8 YO, i really think this bourbon should be paid more attention to.

TNbourbon
05-26-2005, 04:56
Wild Turkey 8 YO, i really think this bourbon should be paid more attention to.



The fact that it's not distributed domestically makes it hard to pay too much attention to it. I most recently had it last fall on a cruise. By all means, I'd buy it if I could find it.

Edward_call_me_Ed
05-26-2005, 08:27
Had a Fighting cock 15 year old followed by a small pour of Old Rip Van Winkle 10 and I think I will have an even smaller pour of Very Olde Saint Nick 8 year old before turning in .
Ed

sharkman
05-26-2005, 20:19
Here's an off the wall pour.

Kentucky Supreme 8 yr. Not bad for a cheapo. Anybody know who bottles this? My guess would be HH.

Gonna jump to some WT Spirit before going to bed. I need some spice. I love my rye! The nose on this stuff is awesome. Bourbon is like sex. Even when it's bad, it's still pretty good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

sharkman
05-26-2005, 20:20
Oh, I forgot to ask, where did you get FC 15yr? I've only seen 6yr.

Thanks!

p.s. Oh, I see now....American in Japan... got it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clever.gif

BourbonJoe
05-27-2005, 17:44
Tonight I'm having a pour (a couple of pours) of plain old Ezra Brooks and a fine Costa Rican cigar. The Ezra is by no means the finest in the bunker, but, you know, I keep buying more. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

CrispyCritter
05-27-2005, 20:51
I'm working on my last pour of '05 Stagg from my open bottle... fortunately there are four more bunkered, three of them in a boxed set. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

I'm not sure if I'll open something new tomorrow, or just take a nip or two from something else that's already open...

Sloop
05-30-2005, 21:09
Elijah Craig 18yr old---very nice.

robbyvirus
05-30-2005, 22:13
Rock Hill Farms. One of my all time favorites, and for some reason, the only premium bourbon I've found that's slowly gotten cheaper in the past couple of years, at least out here in CA. I used to never be able to find it for less than $50/bottle, but now I can sometimes find it for $45 or slightly less.

MarkB
05-31-2005, 16:12
Old Grand Dad BIB... this is some mighty fine bourbon and a steal at the price ($14) here in K.C. Even cheaper if you buy it in the 1.75 tub. It's very close to the excellent OGD 114, which I would be tasting now as well except the bottle seems to be empty. Also ORVW 10yo... quite a bit better than the OGD BIB I must admit-- although the cheapskate in me would like to think they're closer than they really are. Just sublime stuff, and I'd consider this a major, major bargain as well at the $22 or or so it goes for here.

Makes one feel fortunate to be a bourbon afficianiado, not paying the comparatively outlandish prices for the single malt scotches.

NorCalBoozer
05-31-2005, 16:34
Old Rip van Winkle 10 y.o. 90 proof.

first time trying a Van Winkle product(i'm a newb) and I was very very impressed with the quality/price. Although I usually like something a bit hotter, this was such a nice smooth flavor but at the same time not too sweet. To me the flavor tastes of cherry and caramel. this makes a great after dinner drink. good stuff!

AVB
06-01-2005, 04:30
<font color="red">HEY</font> I resemble that remark! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
Currently sipping on Martin Mills 24 yo.



Makes one feel fortunate to be a bourbon afficianiado, not paying the comparatively outlandish prices for the single malt scotches.

jeff
06-01-2005, 15:18
Having just finished racking my porter to secondary, I'm enjoying a small pour of GTS '05 with a splash of water. Tonight I am getting lots of citrus and spice with a good measure of tobacco. Stagg always satisfies http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

RedVette
06-01-2005, 17:13
Rare Breed. It has been a while since I had a pull from this bottle. Darn it, this is good stuff. I know others prefer the Russels Reserve or the Kentucky Spirit, but in my mind this is the best of the Wild Turkey products, and that makes this very very good.

robbyvirus
06-01-2005, 20:47
Prichard's Double-Barreled Bourbon. I picked this bottle up in Kentucky a year or two ago, and I'm still nursing it. I thought it was just OK when I first tried it, but now it's growing on me. I don't know if it's just because they're both from Tennessee, but it reminds me a bit of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel.

TNbourbon
06-01-2005, 21:11
Information/rumor/innuendo locally (Prichard's is about 50 miles from where I live) is that there were only two barrels of the Prichard's Double-Barreled bottled before a partnership agreement precluded additional distributions.
Though I've heard a future bottling is in the works (and that management particulars have been worked out), I know no details. So, if the above is true, the unopened Prichard's I have on the shelf is rare indeed.

RedVette
06-04-2005, 18:03
Evan Williams 1783. This one is new to me. Grass, Hay, Mint, what a weird Bourbon. Oh well, my horizons just got expanded.

BourbonJoe
06-05-2005, 05:11
It may be wierd, but what a bargain for a decent 10 year old bourbon. This has been one of my favorite every day bourbons for a long time. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

TNbourbon
06-07-2005, 19:01
Tonight I created a May-December (no, let’s hope a May-September one, and that I have a few good years left http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/duel.gif) drinks lineup, following up a quiet, solo supper at a nearby Chinese buffet by combining my first adult potable pleasure – dessert wines – with my current whiskey musings.
I began by pouring Novello’s 1999 moscato, a syrupy California red muscat so much like a juicy tangerine you want to let it drip down your chin. Then, I decided to sample a Quinta do Vesuvio 1990 vintage port I’d allowed to languish in the refrigerator for a month or so and was pleasantly surprised to find it still remarkably fresh (always taste a sip before throwing wine out – you never know!). The Duoro property itself had languished until the Port-making Symington family purchased it in 1989, and this was their first declared bottling. My only regret was the absence of a handful of walnuts to subdue and complement the trademark vintage-Port, plummy, tongue-caressing sweetness. Thankfully, should I still leave this one too long unrequited, I have two more bottles.
Not wanting to swerve too suddenly toward dry oak, I measured exactly 2 cl of the light and apple-fruity original Michter’s (PA) Sour Mash into my Whiskey Keller glass (thank you, pepcycle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif). The rye spice was the perfect foil to cleanse away the remaining sweetness of the wines. As a chaser, I poured maybe half as much of the current 2005 Stagg, in which I (though few others) sense significant mint at both entry and finish, conjoined by Stagg’s trademark rainbow of fruit-nut-leather-tobacco-brown-sugar filling.
At present, I am culminating the dessert theme with a half-ounce of green-bottle, Lawrenceburg Pappy 23yo – a rye bourbon from which Julian did a remarkable job of emulating the candied-apple nose and palate he obtains in his ORVW 15yo, for example, with wheated Stitzel-Weller bourbon (but, then, Julian is a remarkable bourbon blender!)http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif. This is literally a visual recreation of the historical ‘red likker’ – the magnificent sturdiness of all those years in oak are visible. Christmas, as Ed would say! And, yet, the wood is only the serving dish for the cinnamon apple-pie. I may have a second helping!

Gillman
06-07-2005, 19:47
An effervescent report!

Gary

Chaz7
06-09-2005, 11:50
In last year or so, I started branching out from single malts, to single barrels. My bourbons are different each night for fun, with a Single malt thrown in for variety (NOT the same night) so in order of personal preference Pappy Van Winkle 15 yr (DFB-Darn Fine Bourbon), followed by their 12yr, Even Williams Vintage 1995 (great bargain),Elmer T. Lee, Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, and Basil Heydan's. I also bought 1792, not high on my list. Yesterday, I found a bottle of Black Maple Hill 11yr. I'll crack that tonight, but if it is as some have posted from Pappy, I don't think I'll have any regrets. I like mine neat with water back, although I have tried the drops of water. To me, it doesn't make the same change as when I drop water in Scotch, although there is certainly a difference. I think it's more that my preference is neat, and I am not looking for the differences.

BrbnBorderline
06-10-2005, 19:30
Not a bourbon, but tonite while bbqing steaks, I was sipping some WT Rye. Tonight it tasted of burnt caramel and tabacco, with a long, hot, spicy finish.

Later, I may open a bottle of Weller Antique.

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mbanu
06-11-2005, 14:56
A mint julep made with Old Heaven Hill BIB.

tmas
06-11-2005, 16:24
that sounds good! had one in Manhattan in Chelsea last night, when I asked the waitress,a young gal, for a mint julep with Wild Turkey 101 she looked at me weird and said " I don't know if we have that", I'd checked on the way back from the washroom, so I told her "oh yeah, you have it"...she was real proud when she brought it back, said "here's your mint julep with Wild Turkey 101"! Hope she trys one sometime, great drink!

BrbnBorderline
06-11-2005, 17:57
Finished off my bottle of Weller 12 YO while barbequing. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Guess I'll hafta open that Weller Antique now. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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monte
06-11-2005, 20:27
I cooked up some mighty nice blackened steak on the grill and sipped some Very Old Barton BIB along with. Ain't it grand being at the top of the food chain!! (I had salad for lunch... ;-) For dessert, I sipped some Van Winkle Family Reserve 12 y.o. lot B, another fine pour.

I'll probably finish the night with more Barton's and some Spring Stagg...

BTW, has anyone noticed a resemblance between the Spring '05 Stagg and the Eagle Rare 101 in the squatty bottle? When you compensate for proof, they taste pretty close to each other... at least in my limited perception, and somewhat different than the ERSB and ER17. Someday, I'm gonna do a tasting with ER101, Stagg '05, ERSB and ER17 and sort all this out. My recollections tell me that we have two families of bourbon here - the ERSB/ER17 family and the ER101 / Stagg '05 family. Anyone else agree or disagree??

Cheers,

-monte-

Chaz7
06-14-2005, 09:50
I finally dipped into the Black Maple Hill 11yr. Very, Very enjoyable.It now moves well up my list, just under the Van Winkle's. And to my palate at least, it is likened to the Pappy Van Winkle 12 yr.

Edward_call_me_Ed
06-15-2005, 06:51
At long last I am sipping some 2005 Spring Stagg! I am a happy man.
Ed

Chaz7
06-15-2005, 13:32
I do want to clarify just a little, The BMH 11yr. is a good drink, but after a revisit, it is different than Pappy 12yr, considerably. I have read many posts, and I realize I need to refine my palate to catch up with many of you. But I know what I like, and right now Pappy 15yr is incredible.

tmas
06-15-2005, 19:35
Have you had the Van Winkle 15 yr in the squat bottle? If so what do you think of them against each other?

scrwabash
06-16-2005, 08:25
I rotate: Blantons (straight); Makers (straight); Booker's (cut); Rare Breed (straight). My first GTS is on the way. Can't wait!

jeff
06-16-2005, 15:32
T.W. Samuels, 90 proof, from and old tax-stamped 1.75L bottle. Pretty middle of the road bourbon, though better than its current incarnation IIRC.

BourbonJoe
06-16-2005, 16:40
Well, tonight I'm having a pour of Buffalo Trace. I just opened the bottle and I must admit the nose was strange. Maybe spicy or woody or whatever. Just strange. The strangeness left on the first sip. This had a great taste, up there with the top shelfers. Mikey likes it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

BrbnBorderline
06-17-2005, 08:08
Still digging the Weller Antique. In fact, yesterday I scored two 1.75 liter bottles of the stuff. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif

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Chaz7
06-17-2005, 09:36
Unfortunately, I've never seen the squat bottle. But I just found PVWR 20yr on sale for $65.99. That's coming home.

Geo
06-17-2005, 14:55
Weller Antique for me also. LOL. Excellent for the money. I put it close to ORVW 10yr 107. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

monte
06-20-2005, 21:14
I started out with some Stagg '05, diluted to approximately 100 proof. Nice pour. I was lucky enough to find some new Stagg '05 in MA last weekend so I decided to indulge a bit. This bourbon does not cease to amaze me...

I then went to the dark side and had a little pour of Bruichladdich 10 (the cheap stuff) and enjoyed that a lot - nicely balanced but full flavored. Then, I went back to bourbon country and had some Old Charter Proprietors Reserve in the tall slender (Louisville) bottle and remembered why I like to hoard this whiskey. It's darn nice and darn complex! Fruit, spice, wood, all sorts of nice flavors! It's the most 'fruity' whisey I've ever seen of that age - I don't know how they do that. I found another bottle today in a local store and I feel no guilt at all... a great whiskey and one I'll be able to sip for some time to come.

OCPR13 will be the pour to finish the evening...

-monte-

camduncan
06-22-2005, 14:35
Last night started out with a nice double-shot pour of Pappy 15yo. Half was consumed neat, the other half with ice.
Post dinner I sat down in front of the TV with a nice healthy pour of Wild Turkey Freedom on ice.

Both were strong and robust in flavour, but the Pappy was definately the favourite http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

clayton
06-22-2005, 17:17
Opened my first bottle of Hirsch 16 in honor of achieving brown-belt in kung fu this weekend. Delicious stuff.

mobourbon
06-22-2005, 19:53
Right now I am drinking Evan Williams Single Barrel '95 with the wonderful creamy vanilla taste as soon as it hits the mouth. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

TNbourbon
06-22-2005, 20:25
Opened my first bottle of Hirsch 16 in honor of achieving brown-belt in kung fu this weekend. Delicious stuff.


I'm enjoying its sibling -- Michter's Sour Mash Whiskey, from a 1978 bottling, so perhaps distilled at about the same time the Hirsch was in 1974.
Apple-pie spice and fruit. Hirsch with the bark stripped off.

Edward_call_me_Ed
06-23-2005, 08:58
Wild Turkey 12 year old. You know there is a smile on my face!
Ed

RedVette
06-24-2005, 15:46
Opened my first bottle of Hirsch 16 in honor of achieving brown-belt in kung fu this weekend. Delicious stuff.



Congratulations, never made it past purple here, but my daughter made brown. Does your system go from brown to red and then black?

Pappy 20 tonight in my glass, it is a night of celebration for us.
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clayton
06-24-2005, 17:24
Congratulations, never made it past purple here, but my daughter made brown. Does your system go from brown to red and then black?


Thanks! In our style (chu'an fa kajukenbo kung fu), brown is the last stop before black. I've been training hard for 5 years. It feels great to have made it this far, but the home stretch over the next year and a half will be very challenging.

Tonight's pour: Stagg Spring 05.

camduncan
06-24-2005, 20:58
Well Done Clayton - that's an awesome achievment http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

I tried to find a bottle or 95 Evan Williams Single Barrel for a party tonight, but it doesn't appear to have hit our shores yet http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Nearly bought another bottle of Bulleit, but settled for a bottle of Jim Beam Rye instead http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
06-25-2005, 03:23
Just now I am sipping on double of Elmer T Lee. It has been a little while since I had this one. Sweet and spicy, nice finish. Before that I had a double of Old Forester 86 proof. Not as sweet, just as spicy. I am getting a hint of grape in both of them. Probably me rather than the bourbon. I never noticed it before and probably never will again.
Ed

pete_d
06-25-2005, 07:00
The EWSB 95 is available in Australia, at least around where I live. Having tried and loved all of the EWSB since 93, I'd say that the 95 is more a bold flavour profile than the 94, but sacrifices a little bit of the depth and complexity of the previous years. I personally prefer the 94.

Tonight (My Birthday) I enjoyed the first taste of a new bottle of Bookers that I bought for myself. A lot more sweet than I remembered it. Followed by a sip of a new bottle of Rare Breed, and Finally some EC12. I still prefer the EC the most.

Edward_call_me_Ed
06-25-2005, 07:40
Happy Birthday to a fellow EC fan!
Ed

Chaz7
06-25-2005, 10:53
I just picked up a bottle of Elmer T. Lee. It's been awhile, but it's every bit as good as I remembered it. Having been doing some comparisons on the Pappy Van Winkle trilogy (12,15,20 year) I was afraid I would be a little disapointed. I also picked up a bottle of Old Forester 100 at the recommendation of another thread. Totally different. I need a few more attempts to get past those differences, but heck, at less than $13.00, I'm open. As far as the EWSB Vintage 95, it's one of my favourite under $25.00 pours.
I would like to say thank you, to all the writer's at Straight Bourbon for some new challenges, such as Old Grand Dad 114, OF 100, and others I would not have tried.

camduncan
06-25-2005, 14:21
Hey Pete_d - happy Birthday http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif Sounds like a good tasting night http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

The 95 EWSB must not have made its way north yet. I did notice that most stores' stock of the 94 was getting low, so we might be due for some shortly.

BrbnBorderline
06-25-2005, 16:18
Just opened a bottle of WT Rare Breed. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif


I really hope the bean counters @ WT leave this one alone. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

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ratcheer
06-25-2005, 17:13
Amen to that!

Tim

pete_d
06-26-2005, 04:45
I'm sure it'll reach you soon. It's worth having as a foil/alternative to the typical EW taste. Less of that trademark 'menthol' taste that is just hiding in the taste profile of the EWSB bottles, but I believe a hotter, more potent style than previous years. To me it feels the same as EC12.

I might grab 1 or 2 more 94's before they go for good...

(BTW thanks to all for the birthday wishes.)

Chaz7
06-27-2005, 14:59
We've had the EWSB 95 for quite some time. But, I think I'll try to track down the 94; I would love to do a side by side.

RedVette
06-27-2005, 18:56
Bulleit. Don't think I have read of someone drinking that on this thread. A tasty complex drink. Good stuff.

monte
06-27-2005, 20:18
Tonight, it's Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, Fall 1990. I don't recall liking it that much the last time I tasted it, but right now, it's a lot warmer and the whiskey is undoubtedly at a warmer temperature; the end result is quite nice. Given that it's released in early Sept., perhaps this is the right season to sample OFBB? (or conversely, February when I had it last is not a good time to taste it??)

I taste a good bit of peppery spice up front, but it subsides quickly into caramel, light vanilla, some toffee like notes. The feel is nice - slightly oily but not too dense though. As it sits in the glass, the vanilla builds nicely. Very nice overall effect - not too challenging or extreme, just a nice tasting bourbon that has all the good flavors most people like in a pour.

Cheers,

-monte-

Joe_Blowe
06-27-2005, 21:13
As you're sitting in front of your computer reading this forum, what's in your glass? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/icon_pidu.gif


Thought I'd finally get in on this thread. At the moment, it's Evan Williams (Black Label) 7 y.o., my daily pour...

Later, maybe some EWSB or EC12. All Hail Heaven Hill! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

BourbonJoe
06-28-2005, 02:20
Here, Here!!!
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

BobA
06-28-2005, 08:01
I had bought some Benchmark to take on a fishing trip, and much of it survived (the beer didn't), so I thought I would try it in a more controlled setting. Put it next to EWSB 95, and it held up well. The EWSB had more going on, but the Benchmark had a few hints of complexity too. I'll have to put it next to VOB for the $9.99 championship.
Bob

camduncan
07-02-2005, 05:53
Tonight we stopped at a local bottle shop on the way to dinner. I found Fighting Cock and Cola RTD's....I've never seen these before so I just had to try them (as Fighting Cock bottles aren't available in our state)

nysquire
07-02-2005, 16:01
With 24 different bottles of bourbon open, It's a tough choice...They're all good...
Start with Rock Hill, sip a whole bunch of different
ones and end with a sip of ORVW 15yo...
I haven't found a bourbon better than ORVW 15yo to end with.

RedVette
07-02-2005, 16:22
I haven't found a bourbon better than ORVW 15yo to end with.



I haven't found a better one period.

CrispyCritter
07-02-2005, 18:55
After starting out with something off-topic (Glenrothes 1974), I'm now enjoying some Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve - the 101-proof version. Mmmmmm on both counts. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif What a shame RR is getting watered down. I think I better bunker a few bottles of 101 while I can.

Tallica
07-02-2005, 21:22
Thanks to Ken Webber http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gifwho swayed me in another thread , I have finally opened my one & only Eagle Rare 17 yr old which I bought 4 years ago on a Bourbon buying pilgrimage to Melbourne.
I'M glad I did , I don't think it will be too long before another bottle joins it on the bar.
This one has gone right to the top of the list, but will have to be carefully rationed until back up stock is obtained.

jeff
07-03-2005, 10:28
I love Eagle Rare 17yo, but there is none to be found anywhere http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I hope the next release will be much larger.

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-04-2005, 06:38
Hello All,
Tonight is a Buffalo Trace night. All Bourbon.
Started out with Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel. Lovely, sweet bourbon. Nice spice to it.
Next was Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 year old. Not as sweet, fresh leathery nose. Again, nice spice.
Followed that with Eagle Rare 101 10 year old. Good bourbon at a good price. I hear that it will be discontinued, so if you like it you should stock up. I had thought that I preferred it to the Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 year old, but after tonight's tasting, I am not so sure. I followed the Eagle Rare 101 10 year old with just a drop more of the Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 year old. The Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 year old wins hands down.
Now I am drinking some George T. Stagg Spring 2005. Wow! This is really growing on me. At first pour the high proof, 65.9% abv, makes the nose too strongly alcoholic. Burns my nose. I find myself blowing into the glass to dilute the fumes so I can smell it. Sip it a while and it becomes much more accessible, especially as the finger pour gets down to an eighth of a inch covering the bottom of the glass. Lots of rye spice without too much of the rye burn that some other high rye mash bills can give you. Honey sweetness comes through with lots of barrel character, leathery oak, with some vanilla, not much, perhaps some fruitiness, but I can't put my finger on what fruit. Obviously, from the order that I have stated I drank them in, I had quite a bit of alcohol before I got to the Stagg. That was intentional. Earlier forays into this bottle I had started with the Stagg and had had trouble with the high proof and the rye burn. With a few good pours to prepare my palate, (Numb isn't quite the word I want, but honesty requires at least a nod in that direction) and I find myself really enjoying this pour. In fact, I find I am tempted to start searching the web for more of this Elixir so that I can bunker dozens of bottles of it for the future. On second thought, I will just trust Buffalo Trace to continue to make superlative whiskey. Seems like a pretty safe bet.
Ed

musher
07-04-2005, 06:48
Hello All,
Tonight is a Buffalo Trace night. All Bourbon.



Hey, me too!!

I was looking for something to work around Eagle Rare 17, so I decided on Buffalo Trace, the aforementioned Eagle Rare 17 and Rock Hill Farms. I decided to save the RHF for the end, since it was the higher proof offering, and always very tasty, but I must say the ER17 was the highlight of the evening. So smooth, sweet and balanced. It almost makes one feel guilty to be able to have such enjoyment. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-04-2005, 07:16
Those two are on my wish list. Not that I am complaining about what I have available! Thank you Buffalo Trace!

And, Betty Jo, don't worry, I will be giving Heaven Hill their turn soon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ed

Chaz7
07-05-2005, 09:41
I haven't found a bourbon better than ORVW 15yo to end with.



I haven't found a better one period.


How about the Pappy 20yr? It is nothing short of extrordinary. And, at 12yrs, Lot B is pretty fine as the least expensive of them all. I think that is one fine family, the Van WInkles that is!

CrispyCritter
07-05-2005, 17:05
Tonight's first pour: WTRR 101. I'm probably going to follow up with ORVW 15/107, as it's the only other bourbon I have open at the moment. I need to finish off something else before I open any other bottles...

Chaz7
07-06-2005, 10:11
I need to finish off something else before I open any other bottles...


You know, an open bottle ain't gonna spoil... Seriously, I have fun with multiple tastings, and just the vatiety makes it worth having all my bottles opened (except backstock).

Geo
07-06-2005, 12:36
First pour is Eagle Rare 101. As this bourbon will be discontued soon, I was sorry I opened the bottle. My second pour will be my old stand by... Old Weller Antique 107. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

gr8erdane
07-06-2005, 14:41
I say open em ALL Russ unless you have one that you're saving for a special occasion.

Your money is wasted
If the bottle is untasted.

Let them fellers complete with each other for your affection while the others are still around to defend their place in your esteem.

camduncan
07-06-2005, 14:44
Last night we hosted a dozen or so friends for this years 3rd and deciding State of Origin Rugby League game between Australian states Queensland and New South Wales. It was the first 'big' gathering in the new bar and home theatre area http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

To celebrate (and later comiserate Queenslands loss of the game and therefore this years series), I started on a couple of Jim Beam & Cola cans, moved onto a couple of Fighting Cock & Cola cans, and followed up with several decent pours of Beams Choice over ice. To finish the night, I shared some of my treasured Pappy 15yo neat with a fellow bourbon drinker http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Cosequently, I'm not drinking anything this morning except strong coffee http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif The Aspro's are kicking in thankfully, and I have a strange craving for a Big Mac http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

CrispyCritter
07-06-2005, 19:36
Your money is wasted
If the bottle is untasted.



Good point! Hmmm... what should I open?

~~~ wavy lines ~~~

<u>Family Room</u>

You are in a family room. A bottle of bourbon and a Glencairn glass rest upon a shelf.

> take bottle and glass

Bottle: Taken.
Glass: Taken.

> examine bottle

You are holding a bottle of Buffalo Trace bourbon. A sticker on the bottle indicates that that this was from a cask selected by Binny's.

> open bottle

You undo the foil wrapping around the cork, and then remove the cork. You hear a quiet *pop*.

> fill glass

*Gloop* *gloop* *gloop* *gloop* *gloop*!

You fill your glass with five gloops of whiskey.

> drink

Wow! You first experience a blast of sweetness, with a bit of spice in the background. The sweetness fades a bit, and the spice comes out in front, before trailing off to a dry finish.

> drink

You enjoy some more of this fine bourbon.

> drink

Mmmmm, this is good stuff!

> drink

Your coordination seems to be suffering a bit after drinking this, and earlier drams of Aberlour 10yo.

> west

You stagger west into a corridor.

<u>Corridor</u>

It is now pitch dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

> south

You have walked right into the slavering fangs of a lurking grue!

*** You have died ***

You have scored 89 points out of a possible 100. Would you like to play again?

~~~ wavy lines ~~~

Hmmm... I think I better turn on some lights first. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

monte
07-06-2005, 22:00
I say open em ALL Russ unless you have one that you're saving for a special occasion.

Your money is wasted
If the bottle is untasted.




Thanks for the inspiration Dane!

I decided to crack open a dimpled Old Forester BIB (bottled in '92) and I'm so glad that I did. This whiskey is a good bit more fruity, floral and rich than a current BIB bottle. I bought it on a whim, partly so I could open the dimpled OF BIB bottle I got last month, but I'm glad I did.

The current OF BIB isn't horrible by any means, but it's a little more peppery and a little less fruity. I don't know how much variation they have, but I assume their dump size is pretty darn large. Can anyone guess as to why there'd be variation over the years in a brand like this? Subtle 'still tuning'? Aging issues? It's not that the two aren't close, but they are definitely different.

Cheers,

-monte-

jeff
07-07-2005, 01:22
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Man, I remember when Zork was the height of gaming technology. If games were still that simple I might play more http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/nope.gif

Gillman
07-07-2005, 05:16
Probably production methods at the time were slightly different (possibly the yeast, in particular, or maybe there was more wood than stainless being used in the fermenting systemat the time, which might have imparted certain qualities to the ferment that carried into the distilled drink). I also believe whiskey can age in the bottle, that aldehydes for example can convert slowly to esters and other fragrant compounds. Finally, the best of OF may now go into the vatting that makes up Woodford Reserve, leaving less overall quality to go into the OF bottles. I too have noticed a peppery quality in the current OF. It may be, too, a situation of some or all of the above. Recently I saw that dimpled old OF bonded in New York and I am sorry now I didn't pick it up. It was in a store called Hong's way up on Broadway or Columbus (I am pretty sure it is on Broadway around 102nd street). Very nice owner there who had also some of the UDV select bottles that were issued as a group some years ago including the Dickel Single Barrel and 15 year old Old Harper. These items are set aside a bit, on his top shelf. Plus he had a 12 year old Old Fitzgerald.

I'm sorry too I didn't make it to Lenell's in B'klyn, I've been trying to get there for a while but the timing never works out since I only get to Manhattan occasionally and for a short time. I'll try again on the next trip.

From the stores I was able to see, most have limited selections and very little of the dusty corner variety.

I did see one Stagg there (I didn't check which one), at the first store, it is on a corner, on Amsterdam as you walk up from where those streets start near the bottom of Central Park).

By the way Mr. Hong also had some old-fashioned-looking 6 year old Old Harper which, I now realise, may have been a National Distillers bottling. It is just so hard to buy anything there when, (i) it is around 90 degress F. and you don't feel like carrying anything, (ii) you are limited in what you can bring back to Canada duty free.

The one thing I did pick up was a disappointment, it was the new 90 proof Old Potrero Straight Rye Whiskey. According to Jackson's new book, Whiskey, it is aged 3 years. When I bought it I forgot that and thought it was aged at least 4 (forgetting the word straight guarantees at least two years only). The price was around 60 dollars. This straight rye has a strong flavor of unrefined whiskey, which of course all the Potrero ryes have had since inception. It is a taste I find hard to come to terms with, although I don't doubt that whiskey like this was sold in the 1800's and earlier. Writers on whiskey use words like mint, grassy, floral, candy-like to describe the odor and flavor but to me that is being charitable. I wish Anchor would let the whiskey age longer before sale, e.g., I think such whiskey at 6-8 years old would be much better since further aging would convert some of the feisty "new make" flavor into estery smoother qualities. I realise that is not the whiskey the company wants to make, and fair enough. I want to like what they do make, but haven't found a way, as yet.

Gary

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-07-2005, 07:14
By the way, today is my son Joe's second birthday. I got him a Red Flyer Retro Tricycle. Last year it was bongo drums. Everybody join me in raising a glass to Joe!

In my glass I now have the first pour of a new bottle of Blanton's Gold. It is very good. I can't say just how good because my wife made me something rather spicy for dinner so that is kind of masking the nose taste and finish. Before dinner I had a pour from a new bottle of Olde St Nick 8 year old. Nice whiskey. Lots of vanilla with a grassy freshness I don't find anywhere else.

Life is pretty good!

Ed

Chaz7
07-07-2005, 08:09
I say open em ALL Russ unless you have one that you're saving for a special occasion.

Your money is wasted
If the bottle is untasted.

Let them fellers complete with each other for your affection while the others are still around to defend their place in your esteem.


Nicely put, Dane. I am having a blast moving from bottle to bottle. Tuesday, I started with a little PVW 12yr Lot B, and my second was Old Grand Dad 114. Again, the OGD surprised me. I love the Van Winkles, but I like those pleasant surprises. Another thing about doing a taster of two (maybe three)is to see how they play off each other. The Pappy, I think, added to the OGD 114. It allowed my to pick up more flavors over the alchohol.

musher
07-07-2005, 20:24
I find that every few months, I need to start finishing off some bottles and reducing the numbers that I have opened. I just start to get overwhelmed with choices, and don't know where to begin. So I work on finishing off the opened bottles and wait a while before opening up a replacement bottle from the bunker.

After a while of having a select few open, I find myself ready to start opening up more bottles and once again revel in the variety!

CrispyCritter
07-07-2005, 21:51
Continuing in the "open more bottles" theme, I started out with the Hirsch 16 gold-foil bottle, and then finished up by opening up my OGD 114.

Both of these turned out to be quite good, with the Hirsch being a very mellow yet full-bodied dram, and the 114 having a more aggressive spiciness; is Hirsch a wheater?

The 114 didn't burn my throat, but maybe it has been fireproofed from previous experiences with Stagg and cask-strength Scotches. For me at least, it's definitely in my top bang-for-the-buck bracket...

Gillman
07-07-2005, 23:02
Correction to my last: when I said 6 year old Old Harper I meant, 6 year old Old Taylor.

Gary

Gillman
07-07-2005, 23:06
The Hirsch has more rye content than the OGD 114 but the latter is more spicy. I think this is partly because rye shows itself differently in different drinks, but also, the Hirsch is much older than the OGD so the Hirsch's rye undertone is more muted by barrel tones than the OGD's. By the way, I too just opened a (batch 1) OGD 114. I've had bottles before from the same batch: they differ quite a bit, the one I just opened was more smoky and charred in flavor than the others but not nearly as much of course as the Hirsch 16.

Gary

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-08-2005, 00:33
The Old Grand Dad 114 does burn my throat. It is not just the high proof. For the most part I prefer whiskey/whisky to be in the 100 proof range, much under that and it seems pretty thin. The first pour of Stagg can be a bit rough for my throat, but not the second. Booker's is fine, Glenfarclas 105 (60% abv) is very smooth and the Olde St Nick 20 year old at 58% abv is like silk. The couple of other cask strength whiskies I have had a bars or on tours have been no problem either. The only reason I haven't had more cask strength whiskies is that the price is pretty much double that of the regular bottling, sometimes more. I almost forgot WT Rare Breed. That is an easy drinking Barrel Proof Bourbon. Not too high of an abv as such things go.

OGD 114 burns even with a liberal splash of water. Too bad as I like the nose and the taste. I even like the finish if I can separate it from the burn. I poured myself a little bit just now and it burns. As an experiment I have just cut it by about 50% and the burn is still there. Let me be clear and say that I think this is just me, not the whiskey. Dry wines burn as badly or worse. On the other hand, I am pretty sure that I have a different bottling than you do in the States. I know that when I posted a picture of my label a while back I was told it was different from what was available in the States.

Ed

Isoflex
07-08-2005, 00:42
Interesting, I too am just finishing a glass of OGD 114!! It is a small world. I am enjoying the OGD, it is the first bottle I have had of it. It is a very good value. Cheers.

TNbourbon
07-08-2005, 09:48
...is Hirsch a wheater?..


http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif The Hirsch, as you read on the bottle (and perhaps elsewhere), is the remaining distillate from the defunct Bomberger/Michter's Distillery in Pennsylvania. The most commonly attributed mashbill they made was 50% corn, 38% rye, 12% malted barley. I doubt they ever made a wheater. If the Hirsch is, indeed, the commonly-presumed Michter's mashbill, the regulatory folks winked a little at the 'bourbon' label.

RedVette
07-09-2005, 16:04
Just finished a bottle of Bulleit, by pouring the last half a shot. Nice. Then got a full drink of Bakers, wow. The Bakers is so much more Bourbon, it commands attention. Gonna think about this one for a while. To b e continued.

dgonano
07-09-2005, 19:46
Been working on a bottle of Bakers myself. We don't talk about this bourbon often, but it is a fine pour.

BourbonJoe
07-09-2005, 19:49
Tonight I had a pour of Hirsch 16 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.giffollowed by a pour of PVWFR 15 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. Both were superb.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

BrbnBorderline
07-13-2005, 08:56
Last night was some Super Bird 108! Very tasty - lots of butter-caramel. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif














BTW - that would be WT Rare Breed - I've nicknamed it Super Bird.

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NorCalBoozer
07-13-2005, 11:05
holy smokes, I just tried a Van Winkle 12 yr Lot B.

wow i am very impressed with it. very rich flavor.

Chaz7
07-13-2005, 13:01
holy smokes, I just tried a Van Winkle 12 yr Lot B.
wow i am very impressed with it. very rich flavor.


It's one of my favorites. Last night I started with Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year (Just got it)and finished with the Lot B. I really liked the ORVW 10 a lot. It held up well after the 12yr Lot B. I now have in my bunker, in order of preference, Pappy 20 year, Pappy 15 yr, Van Winkle 12 yr Lot B, and now the ORVW 10yr. If I were a wealthy man, the 20yr would be in my glass every night. I will seek out the Family Reserve Rye (can't go wrong I'm sure) to round out my "family reunion". Of all my bourbons, the Van Winkles are my favorites. There are many left to try; but these are excellent. The ORVW 10yr is about the same price as the Evan Williams SB Vintage, and that's a close call for me.

NorCalBoozer
07-13-2005, 14:27
i have both the 15 yr and 20 yr PVW sitting on my shelf, yet to try them, but sounds like they are every bit as good as the the Lot B. I have also tried the ORVW 10 yr, (90 proof). It's good, but I would agree that Lot B is above it. The Lot B has more age that gives it more richness throughout. What an awesome nose!

it's a lot different compared to, say Stagg. Stagg is a top fuel dragster, while I would liken the Lot B to a fine handling roadster. Both are exciting in their own right.

looking forward to trying the Pappy van Winkles next.

gr8erdane
07-13-2005, 15:34
i have both the 15 yr and 20 yr PVW sitting on my shelf, yet to try them, but sounds like they are every bit as good as the the Lot B



All three are wonderful bourbons that I think you will find a family resemblance in but each is it's own individual. Pappy 20 is the big brother who is ruling the roost except when older brother Pappy 23 comes home from college every once in a blue moon. He has put in his time learning from Pappy 23 and is not shy in letting the others know that he's been there longer by flexing his muscles. The Pappy 15 is the little brother who follows his big brother around and tries to do everything he does but just hasn't been around long enough to get away with it. Lot B seems to me to be the sweet little sister all dressed in pink with a cute little smile but a twinkle in her eye.

Chaz7
07-13-2005, 17:11
Dane, I gotta admit, you have a way with words. I might add, the 15 has an anything you can do I can do better attitude (check the proof). But he is still the 20's little brother, and he doesn't always get away with it. And as for you NorCalBoozer, go for it! So how often does the 23 year old get released? Chaz

gr8erdane
07-14-2005, 00:14
Chaz, according to Julian, the barrels for this year's release of Pappy 23 will celebrate their 23rd birthday in early December. Maybe in time for Santa to fill your stocking....

CrispyCritter
07-14-2005, 19:12
After a little "side trip" north of the border (Forty Creek Three Grain), I'm now working on a generous pour of Spring Stagg. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/woohoo.gif In honor of the occasion, I picked the handle "131.8 Proof" during my online game of Scorched3D (http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/). http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

TNbourbon
07-14-2005, 19:44
Started the evening with some Old Forester Birthday Bourbon 2004. This is sort of the 'bastard' of the BB family -- many of us were upset when they reduced the age from 13 back to 9 years. But it's really quite enjoyable -- comparable to early Woodford Reserve, I think, and about the same age.
Right now, I have some 1985-bottled, gold-labeled Wild Turkey 12yo in my glass, and it is superb bourbon. All the right notes, with nothing detracting. Wonderful candied nose, maple over subdued leather palate, warm, sweet finish. Don't pass up a chance to try it.

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-15-2005, 01:19
Wild Turkey 101 8 year old. I was reading about DougDog's
WT 101 8 year old find and it made me thirsty. Since I can get it here easily I thought I ought to take advantage of that fact. Might have some of the 12 year old later. It is too pricy for a daly pour but it sure is nice.
Ed

Chaz7
07-15-2005, 10:41
Well, last night I tried the Old Forester 100 again. I just can't embrace it. I'm planning a trip to the "big city" (Denver) tonight to stock the bunker. I'll be looking for Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye, or maybe the ORVW 107 , some Four Roses or maybe some Black Maple Hill 17yr or older. Regardless, I'll be on the lookout for anything not found at home. Still, brown spirits get shorted on the aisles even at the superstores. Do we really need 752 vodkas to choose from? Woo Hoo, Absolute Passionate Persimmon and Figgy Fruit flavored. Now which aisle has the tiny umbrellas...

wadewood
07-15-2005, 11:16
I'm planning a trip to the "big city" (Denver) tonight to stock the bunker. I'll be looking for Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye, or maybe the ORVW 107 , some Four Roses or maybe some Black Maple Hill 17yr or older.



There are some liquor stores in Denver with pretty good bourbon selection. I don't remember the names, but could drive to them. You should be able to find Family Reserve Rye and other Van Winkle selection. Four Roses is pretty much KY only. There is one store on NW side of town up 121 near Superior that I bought 4 bottles of 2002 Stagg.

dlundh
07-15-2005, 13:52
I just came back from Tallinn, Estonia with four different bottles: Thompson, Medleys, Marshalls and Old Virginia. I've had a taste of the first three this evening.

None of them will be noted as favorties in my book, but coming from Sweden where Bourbon is shunned by the government alcohol monopoly, they're a cool addition to my humble boorbon collection.
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ratcheer
07-15-2005, 14:06
Still, brown spirits get shorted on the aisles even at the superstores. Do we really need 752 vodkas to choose from? Woo Hoo, Absolute Passionate Persimmon and Figgy Fruit flavored. Now which aisle has the tiny umbrellas...



They sell what is selling. Personally, even if I were to switch to white spirits, it still wouldn't be vodka. Rum, gin, something with some flavor.

People seem to be in to things without flavor, these days. Expensive bottled water, etc. I bought some Eggland's Best eggs a few weeks ago, because people kept telling me how great they taste. Guess what? They had no discernable flavor. Eggs for people who don't like the taste of eggs. Bah! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/soapbox.gif

Tim

ratcheer
07-15-2005, 14:07
Cool! I have never been to Estonia. I hear there are some very pretty girls, there. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Tim

nor02lei
07-15-2005, 15:37
Got any f that 2002 Stagg left? I would like to by 1 or 2 bottles if it is posible.

TNbourbon
07-15-2005, 17:26
I just came back from Tallinn, Estonia with four different bottles: Thompson, Medleys, Marshalls and Old Virginia...



A photo would be appreciated, if possible. Neat finds.

Edward_call_me_Ed
07-16-2005, 04:45
Elijah Craig 12 yr old. Recently I realised that I had let myself run out of this wonderful bourbon, so today I went and bought a bottle. Drinking it now. Very happy that I got this. Sip-sigh!
Ed http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/thankyousign.gif Heaven Hill!

dlundh
07-16-2005, 14:02
I just came back from Tallinn, Estonia with four different bottles: Thompson, Medleys, Marshalls and Old Virginia...



A photo would be appreciated, if possible. Neat finds.



This was my first trip to Estonia so i took quite a lot of photos that you can currently watch on my blog:
http://dlundh.blogspot.com/.
All the text in the blog is in swedish though so you won't find my bylines to the photos helpful I'm afraid. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Photo of my newly purchased bourbons are up on flickr here:
http://photos23.flickr.com/26388967_865a4bcd08_o.jpg

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CrispyCritter
07-16-2005, 19:32
Fascinating pictures, even if I don't understand a word of Swedish. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The pedicab looks pretty cool, especially as I'm a big fan of recumbent trikes (http://fubegra.net/photo/2trikes.jpg) and bikes.

As for that photo I linked, the red one on the right (a WizWheelz (http://www.bentrideronline.com/reviews/wiz/tt36.htm)) is mine, while the silver one (a Sun EZ-Tadpole (http://www.bentrideronline.com/reviews/EZTadpole/eztadpole.htm)) belongs to my father. Unfortunately, he's a teetotaler, but at least he isn't a prohibitionist. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Back on-topic, I'm enjoying some of the Ancient Ancient Age 10yo I picked up yesterday. This is a very smooth, easygoing bourbon - perfect for kicking back on a hot summer night. Even better yet, it was fairly cheap at about $14. Definitely high on the quality/price ratio. Looks like I better bunker a few of these...

Geo
07-16-2005, 23:10
Started off the night with two fingers of Old Weller Antique and then proceeded for two fingers of Old Rip Van Winkle 15yr 107 Lawrenceville Bottling. OMG! Yummy combo!

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Ken Weber
07-18-2005, 08:30
If you are going to Denver, be on the lookout for Buffalo Trace (if you have not tried it before). It should be in a number of stores, most notably Apple-Jacks.

Ken

Chaz7
07-18-2005, 08:46
Actually, here in Colorado Springs we have Buffalo Trace. I've not picked up a bottle as of yet. And Tim, as to things moving in a "flavorless" direction, when I do have a Martini, it's alway with gin (and blue cheese stuffed olives)because I want flavor, no, I crave flavor. White spirits are very hot indeed, but only vodka. At one of the superstores in Denver, they have a vodka selection larger than many stores entire selection.But I beleive there will be a backlash (better than backwash)and bourbon just might be the next big trend. Good news, we will see greater selection in the aisles; bad news, we will probably see increased prices for the "super premiums". But, in regards to new product, it takes time. A very good friend of mine is distilling a new super premium vodka, Altius, because he did not want to go to investors and say "in 6-8 years you can expect a return on your investment". So vodkas proliferation may have something to do with it being so quick to come to market.

BrbnBorderline
07-20-2005, 08:10
Last night I opened a bottle of Eagle Rare 101. Too bad they are discontinuing this http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif


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bluesbassdad
07-23-2005, 21:39
Eagle Rare 17 y/o. (Now I have only two unopened, previously untasted expressions on the shelf.)

The nose seemed very slow to develop. I waited at least two hours before taking the first sip. Eventually I started getting the basic, red-layer caramel. That sweetness seemed to peak and then fade. Later I detected a fruity sweetness, similar to apricot or peach. That, too, faded. Next I detected a hint of char, which reminded me of slightly over-browned, whole-wheat toast.

On the palate all of those subtleties merged into a gentle backdrop of sweetness, which framed a very pleasant, but dominant, expression of charred wood. I was struck by the similarity to the Van Winkle expressions of 15 years and older (except for the new PVW 15 y/o, which I think lacks that character).

I look forward to pouring occasional sips from this bottle for months or years to come.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

camduncan
07-24-2005, 03:24
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Edward_call_me_Ed
07-24-2005, 10:13
I have had rather a lot to drink tonight. Rare Breed, Rip Van Winkle's 10 year old, Elijah Craig 12 (quite a bit of that) an Irish; Jameson 12, Evan William's 7, big pour, Evan William's 12, small pour, a little Jim Beam Black and a tiny pour of Booker's. I shouldn't be able to type...
Ed

BourbonJoe
07-24-2005, 18:14
I have had rather a lot to drink tonight. Rare Breed, Rip Van Winkle's 10 year old, Elijah Craig 12 (quite a bit of that) an Irish; Jameson 12, Evan William's 7, big pour, Evan William's 12, small pour, a little Jim Beam Black and a tiny pour of Booker's. I shouldn't be able to type...
Ed


And you didn't misspell even one word Ed.....Unbelievable. If I drank that much they'd be scraping me up off the floor. Great if you can do it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

Chaz7
07-30-2005, 11:02
Well, I picked up a bottle of Buffalo Trace for $17.00. I like it a lot. It's, to me, rather soft, very light caramel, with a little shorter finish than I prefer. But I definately enjoyed it, and when it's gone, I will certainly grab another. Earlier this week I had a pour, followed by ORVW 10yr. Old Rip tasted completely different. Quite a suprise. So what you have before can really make a difference in what follows. Last night I returned to Old Grand Dad 114. I drank one glass only, but after about 45 minutes, my empty glass really came to life. The next time I have a pour, in fact, of anything, I am going to slow down so I can see how much difference 25-30 minutes in the glass can make. On the Pappy Van Winkles, I always do it; I just never thought to try it with others.

BourbonJoe
07-30-2005, 14:09
Tonight I had a pour of AAA 10 year and a pour of ORVW 15 - 107. Both in a brandy snifter, neat. They were both superb. Three cheers for Buffalo Trace and Julian Van Winkle.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

Geo
08-07-2005, 13:23
Started with a large pour of Old Weller Antique and finished with 3oz's of Pappy's Family Reserve. Wheaters are excellent for the late evening, like a great dessert, delicous! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Chaz7
08-10-2005, 08:51
Last night, Jefferson's Reserve. Still like the Van Winkles product better. Interestingly enough, My first pour was very smooth. The second was quite hot. Huh?

kbuzbee
08-10-2005, 09:45
Last night, Jefferson's Reserve. Still like the Van Winkles product better. Interestingly enough, My first pour was very smooth. The second was quite hot. Huh?



That is what I've found as well. I don't have any Bourbon that is as different pour to pour as Jefferson's Reserve. I can't find any reason for it, but there you go....

Oh mine last night, Old Potrero Straight Rye. Very good and completely different than anything else I've tried. It struck me a lot more like an Irish (Bushmills maybe??) or a non peaty Scotch. Very smooth but huge flavor (just not at all the flavor I'm used to). After a night or two I'll try to come up with some notes.... This one's hard. Like I have no points of reference.

Cheers,

Ken

BrbnBorderline
08-15-2005, 19:36
It's been really warm here latley, and a light bourbon has been tasting really good - I bought a bottle of Basil Hayden's. I normally don't drink 80 proof bourbon. This isn't bad. Not worth the $$$ tho. I find I take bigger sips of this to get the amount of flavor I desire.

Maybe next time I want an 80 proof bourbon, I'll pick up some Ancient Age - it's about 1/3 the $$.

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musher
08-15-2005, 20:27
Tonight, I find myself finishing off a bottle of Ancient Ancient Age 10yr. I feel special that I get to enjoy this fine bourbon, since it is not available here in MN. Since its avialablilty is being reduced, I hope I'll still be able to get it from Binny's when I need more. If not, a road-trip will be in order!

Before that, I thoroughly enjoyed a glass of the '04 Eagle Rare 17yo.

Life is good!

kbuzbee
08-16-2005, 06:38
Last night was not a Bourbon at all (GASP!) but a Canadian (DOUBLE GASP!!) http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Forty Creek Barrel Select - It has a wonderful nose, open, light, fruity.

Palate was full with apricots and vanilla.

This is not your father's Canadian, This is fully flavored complete and very well balanced pour. Highly recommended!

Cheers,

Ken http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

Chaz7
08-16-2005, 07:52
Last night, I started with a nice, fat two finger pour (bad day at the office) of EWSB '95. Haven't had it in a while, but it was good.I had been enjoying higher proofs lately, so it went down a little too easy. I finished with an ORVW 10yr 107. It was an interesting pairing, but not as good of a combo as the previous night's OGD 114, followed with a Black Maple Hill 11yr. Those two really played of each other.

TNbourbon
08-16-2005, 17:30
Last night, I enjoyed a 3-to-4-ounce pour of Weller 12yo in a large snifter while sitting in the recliner reading for an hour or so.
That's more than I usually pour of a single bourbon at a single time, but the Weller 12 is a comfortable companion for a good book.

monte
08-18-2005, 19:52
I'm having a pour of some of the 1993 OGD I recently found in Rhode Island, and it's very very nice.

An odd thing happens with this whiskey. When I first opened the bottle, it tasted a good bit more peppery and for lack of a bettter term, like "rubbing alcohol" compared to some older 1984 stock I found a few months back, making me wonder whether the distillery had changed operations etc.

After a day or two, the familiar notes apppeared, stronger than initially, and the peppery notes seemed to die down.

Now, having the bottle open for six days, this whiskey is positively buttery, fruity, soft and slightly peppery, but in no way reminiscent of rubbing alcohol! Quite a nice pour right now!!

I guess the thing that struck me most is that this whiskey tastes OK when you first open it, but it improves radically after a week or so of having the bottle open. I've been sipping on this bottle all week, comparing it to the 1984 bottle I opened a month ago, and it's been improving steadily. Most other bourbons I've tasted don't seem to change this radically... Whatever's happening, it rocks!!

A toast to DSP-KY-14... a lovely still... may it someday be restored and distill again.

BTW, does anyone know if they dismantled this still after the ND sale to Beam, or what state it's in now?


Cheers,

-monte-

lakegz
08-21-2005, 07:33
just a tad of Wild Turkey 8yo. you know i think this is the absolute best bargain for bourbon. In tokyo, you can get a liter for 23 dollars and on a trip to Mexico, i even got one for 13 dollars at a duty free store. Its the most balanced bourbon ive had.

CrispyCritter
08-21-2005, 21:07
Had a nice pour of the Old Fitz BIB, then went off-topic a bit with a couple of Rittenhouse Rye BIB pours to finish the bottle. Then, I veered even further off-topic with some Domaine Le Basque Bas-Armagnac (Hors d'Âge, 2004 bottling). Now, back on-topic with a small pour of AAA 10 for a nightcap...

Edward_call_me_Ed
08-21-2005, 21:59
Your are right about that. I mean WT 8 year old is a great bargain in Japan. Though I find that the 750s, when they are on sale, are cheaper than the liter bottles, at least up here in Sapporo. I have to admit that I haven't been drinking much of the eight year old lately, I have been spoiled by the twelve year old. Not cheap, but Soooo good.
Ed

brian12069
08-22-2005, 03:53
Last night, 10 year 107 proof Rip Van Winkle...delicious

clayton
08-23-2005, 09:29
Poured some non-chillfiltered Rock Hill Farms last night.
Thank you, Sam's!

Chuck_Osborn
08-23-2005, 09:54
Last night, Black Maple Hill 21yo. I've been going back and forth lately between this and Noah's Mill 15yo. Good company, I'd say.

BourbonJoe
08-23-2005, 16:39
Tonight was a pour of Pappy 20 with a great cigar (sancho panza). If there is such a thing as a holy grail http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/pope.gif of bourbon, this is it.
Joe http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

bobbyc
08-23-2005, 18:06
A little of the 90 proof Cabin Still, and Amelia had a touch with me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

In memory of CLs dad.

TNbourbon
08-23-2005, 20:06
After opening with an ounce of 1978 National Distillers' Bourbon DeLuxe -- as complex an 80-proof, 4yo bourbon as I've found -- I ramped up to another ounce of the 129-proof '04 Stagg. Finally, I'm winding down the evening with an ounce of Stitzel-Weller 80-proof Old Fitz Prime from the early-'90s, which seems to have benefitted from aeration as the liter bottle has fallen below half-full. It had an acidic astringency early on which has dissipated completely that has left a Cognac-y light sweetness that nonetheless is mouth-coating. I have several of these -- I may open a second and split them between the two bottles once this one is empty, to speed the 'sweetening'.

CL
08-23-2005, 21:29
I stopped drinking for health reasons, but tonight's an exception. I toasted my Dad with a smidgen of WT 101. Here's to you, Donald George! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

Chaz7
08-24-2005, 10:07
Last night, I started with Pappy Van Winkle 15yr, and followed up with an OGD 114. This time, the OGD 114 did not hold up as well after the PVW 15, but it did turn out quite nice towards the end.

lakegz
09-13-2005, 02:59
I had a healthy serving of Old Grand Dad 114. Its a pretty unique bourbon with a flavor that seems initially rough but mature once it settles. Only 25 bucks in Shinjuku :-D

btw, im finding a wayyyy better bourbon selection in Japan then i ever found in San Diego.

SSBourbon1
09-13-2005, 20:19
Been a while since I could sit down and relax with a nice long pour of AAA. What a wonderful pour to sip and sip and sip http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

cowdery
09-13-2005, 21:02
Gin and tonic. (Hey, you asked.)

barturtle
09-13-2005, 21:16
The question says BOURBON.

On that note though, Mount Gay XO...RUM!

But I started off with Elmer T. Lee,

A fine dram it is (ET LEE), Smooth, full flavored, caramel start, with a peppery mid palate and a long soft finish. A perfect anytime, wear what you will bourbon. Though I hate the wax on the top (I hear thats fixed now).

Gillman
09-13-2005, 23:53
Alright, since we're on this jag: Talisker Distiller's Reserve, finished in amoroso sherry casks. This Talisker is 13 years old, the regular one is 10. The extra three years enhance the whisky but so does the sherry finishing. The result is something like the Distiller's Edition of Lagavulin 16 years old. The wine wraps around the whisky and makes it even richer and softer than normal. A fine drink but really more for the winter, and it was upwards of 90 degree F in Toronto today - but then you asked. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

brian12069
09-14-2005, 03:37
Last night I had some Joshua Brook 8 yr 90 proof that I had just recieved from an order I placed with Hi Time Wine Cellars...

cowdery
09-14-2005, 19:45
Sorry, I don't read so good.

BobA
09-16-2005, 10:28
Last night was a pour of Sazerac. Hadn't had it in a bit and loved being reminded about how full of character it is. Hope I can find the new 6 yr. when it gets bottled and do a little comparison.

Fishing/camping trip in the mts. this weekend, and all I grabbed was VOB 90 and Benchmark. Didn't have a good supply of any "middle shelvers" that I wanted to part with; I'm hoarding my WTRR 101 and Eagle 101, and a couple of half bottles of other stuff for planned comparisons. Saz, Stagg, etc. don't go on these trips; those boys can empty a bottle fast.

Bob

Chaz7
09-16-2005, 11:59
I just got back from Bardstown and Louisville (just missed the Bourbon fest)and I am thouroughly enjoying my souvenirs. Last night, a Very Old Barton 90 proof. Unbelievably good for $11.00. The night before, I had a shoot out between the AAA 10 year, and the AAA 10 STAR (available here). Surprisingly, I may have liked the 10 STAR ever so slightly better. I also picked up a Noah's Mill and finally a bottle of Evan Williams 1783. None of these (except for the 10 STAR) are available in Colorado. I now wish I had picked up the other expressions of VOB, the 80,86, and 100. It would be fun to do a vertical.

Geo
09-17-2005, 23:26
tonight... a small pour of Buffalo Trace... tasty... but, I would like to see this at 100 proof. The finish is weak to me. I then moved into a pour of Wild Turkey 101... Nice!
Then onto my favorate regular pour, Old Weller Antique 107...now this is smooth and plenty of flavor.

Attention Ken Weber: Create a new bottling of Buffalo Trace, at about 100-110 Proof and I would be in heaven. I love the bourbon, but needs more punch in the finish. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

bluesbassdad
09-18-2005, 16:18
Why not try mixing (or "vatting", as Gary G. and others here call it) a small amount of George T. Stagg with your Buffalo Trace. The math eludes me at the moment, but my gut says if you mix one part of, say, 140 proof with four parts of 90 proof, the result should be close to 100 proof.

Heck, I like the sound of that so well, I may just try it myself. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

musher
09-18-2005, 17:49
The math eludes me at the moment, but my gut says if you mix one part of, say, 140 proof with four parts of 90 proof, the result should be close to 100 proof.



Your gut serves you well! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

brian12069
09-18-2005, 18:03
Tonight...2 oz of Weller Special Reserve.... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

kbuzbee
09-19-2005, 05:27
Tonight, thanks to Tim (Thanks Tim!!!) Wild Turkey Tribute. Wow! What an amazing Bourbon. This is everything I love about other Wild Turkey prducts but it's so much more. It's deeper, more complex, ultra smooth with a finish that won't quit.. I suppose it's good this is next to impossible to find or I'd have to find a source of income just to fund making it a regular pour.

Ken

Ken Weber
09-19-2005, 05:30
George,
Interesting concept, a BIB BT. Let me kick this around with the team.
Ken

lakegz
09-19-2005, 05:55
not bourbon but Van Winkle 13 Family Reserve 13yo Rye.
I found the holy grail of liquor stores in Shibuya!!!!

StraightBoston
09-19-2005, 06:25
Do tell... I'll be in Tokyo next week looking to load up on the export stuff!

lakegz
09-19-2005, 06:34
ah, how do i explain the directions....,,,,
well, go from the station to the main crossing (the busiest street crossing in the world) and follow the crowd straight into a pedestrian street and itll veer left. Follow that a few blocks and the awesome liquor store should be to your right. right across the small street from an AM PM convenience store.
you know what, when are you going to Shibuya? ill probably head there again within a week or two and ill give better directions and the name of the store http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

how soon will you be going?

Chaz7
09-19-2005, 09:11
Shibuya liquor store? If she is, could she pick me up a bottle?

TonyM
09-19-2005, 13:26
Tonight will be a Stagg 05 First Release, then maybe some Weller 12YR or Eagle Rare SB, and I'll cap the night off with Van Winkle Family Reserve 20YR.

Still celebrating from the Bourbon Festival!!

Cheers,

Tony

TNbourbon
09-19-2005, 20:08
I'm extremely lucky to have owned and/or tasted some wonderful, rare, exotic and fine bourbons thanks to my association with this group, most recently last week at the Festival.
But, tonight, I'm enjoying some standard Weller 12yo ($29.99 for 1.75L at my local bottle shop!) while I read and watch football, and I believe I could well live with just this bottling if forced to. And save money. And still be drinking fine bourbon.

Isoflex
09-19-2005, 20:14
Having some Knob Creek and watching the games also. Been a bad year so far handicapping the NFL. The Cowboy/Redskin game is pretty good, the Knob Creek was better than the Saints/Giants!!

barturtle
09-19-2005, 21:30
After a weekend of drinking unobtainables at the KBF, I'm reeducating my palate to drink the stuff that I can regularly afford and is readily available. The drink of the evening, while watching Monday Night Football, is Jim Beam White label out of a plastic traveler. I think I'll follow this with Old Charter 12yr.

I really like the concept of the traveller, as I ride my bicycle more often than I drive my truck, and these won't break on the ride back from the grocery. I just wish I could get Beam Black in them in Louisiana like I can in Louisville.

Sweetmeats
09-20-2005, 20:51
I am drinking W. L. Weller 12 Year Old (BevMo Handpicked ) neat. I really like the products from Buffalo Trace! Next week should bring me my first Van Winkle product! I can't wait! Wait, and now I'm drinking my tax stamp Ancient Age 86! Ahhh, good stuff!

bluesbassdad
09-28-2005, 00:08
Tonight I was in the mood for a change -- something I haven't had lately, but something I was certain to enjoy.

Lo and behold, an unopened bottle of Rock Hill Farms came to hand. I'm sipping it now, and I find it a big step up compared to its near relative, Blanton's, which I had last night.

Whereas I find Blanton's meager to the nose, thin on the palate, and overly dry at the finish, Rock Hill Farms is the opposite at every phase. If anything, it may be a tiny bit too big and bold for my taste. I may try a little water in it someday -- but not tonight.

A former SB'er once remarked that anyone who doesn't like Blanton's doesn't like bourbon. I beg to differ. (I'm getting a feeling of deja vu here. Have I made this exact same comment before?) I'm certainly not saying Blanton's is a bad bourbon, but to my taste it is far from the paragon that some find it to be. Why should I spend over half a Ben Franklin for it (Arizona price) when Rock Hill Farms is available from out-of-state for a few bucks less? I've bought my last bottle of it, and I really mean it this time.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Special Reserve
09-28-2005, 02:54
Not right now but last night...

Old Weller 107 while watching No Direction Home a great combination.

Chaz7
09-28-2005, 08:56
Last night, a pour of AAA 10 STAR, which I am really beginning to enjoy, a pour of Eagle Rare (like the SB better),and finally, a pour of the PVW Rye. Now the only Van Winkle product for me to conquer is the 23 year.

kbuzbee
09-28-2005, 09:49
Whereas I find Blanton's meager to the nose, thin on the palate, and overly dry at the finish, Rock Hill Farms is the opposite at every phase. If anything, it may be a tiny bit too big and bold for my taste. I may try a little water in it someday -- but not tonight.




Hey Dave, in the spirit of the right honorable Gillman, what if you add a finger of Blanton's to the Rock Hill to mellow it??? Sounds better than water (to me)

Ken

Gillman
09-28-2005, 10:00
Good thinking, Ken. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Better yet, make your own vatting of Blanton, Elmer T. Lee, Rock Hill Farms, you may come up withe the perfect balance.

Gary

kbuzbee
09-28-2005, 10:02
Good thinking, Ken. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Better yet, make your own vatting of Blanton, Elmer T. Lee, Rock Hill Farms, you may come up withe the perfect balance.

Gary



That's advanced level, Gary! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Ken

Gillman
09-28-2005, 10:19
Come come now, this ain't rocket science. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

kbuzbee
09-28-2005, 11:17
You underestimate. Complex things like this seem easy when you are the master... To the rest of us, these are the black (or at least grey) arts. I always enjoy peeking into your methodology, Gary.

Cheers,

Ken (PS- and rockets are just pointy ended tubes with engines!)

Rughi
09-28-2005, 12:37
Come come now, this ain't rocket science. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary



Compared to putting a boot in someone's ass it is. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bluesbassdad
09-28-2005, 12:53
... to fit the point of the post can make it easier to follow our sometimes free-wheeling discussions.

The reader who is interested in Old Weller, but not Rock Hill Farms, might skip over your post, to his loss.

Sometimes I find it useful to use a link (http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/48436/an/0/page/0#48436) when I have an overwhelming urge to explore a tangent, as in the present case in regard to one Robert Zimmerman (http://www.radiohazak.com/Dylan.html) .

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Gillman
09-28-2005, 14:27
That's good Rog, thanks. Hope you and Maia had good holidays. Still enjoying that Yellowstone, it's tops!

Gary

Gillman
09-28-2005, 14:29
Dave, when are you going to convert? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gary

bluesbassdad
09-28-2005, 15:48
. . . I just might. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Sweetmeats
10-11-2005, 15:08
Okay, Sunday night I had two ( 2 ) shots of Ancient Ancient Age. I did not get drunk. I did not get a buzz. But this morning I had the worst hangover. What the hell!?!? This did happen once before though when I had two Coronas. If I'm going to have a hangover, at least let me drink like a fish!

doubleblank
10-11-2005, 17:56
I'm having some Old Fitz 1849 from the mid '70's. Best old SW bourbon I've had. Better balanced than many VOF's etc from same or earlier periods. I get ripe fruits and just the right amount of oak from this 8yo. Produced just after the VW's sold the distillery and the new owners changed the age from 10yo to 8yo......but distilled under the old regime and old "formula". Wish this could be a regular pour.

Randy

StraightBoston
10-11-2005, 18:08
Tonight, Mike Wayne from the 1981 "Iowa Corn State" decanter http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

The label says Bardstown -- does anybody know whose bourbon this is?

TNbourbon
10-12-2005, 22:14
One of the joys of my bourbon experience so far is its ability to allow me to escape from the stultifying sameness of everyday life and enjoy the extraordinary number of wonderful bourbons available to me at a given time. But even within the context of that array of bibulous choices, there are special moments, and tonight presented one.
On nothing more than a whim, I poured a deep draft (for me, that's 3-4 ounces) of a 'special' bourbon into a snifter to enjoy while reading a favorite author. When I speak of 'special' bourbons, I mean the Hirsch/Michter's, the Wild Turkey 12s, the Pappy 23, et al, that I may never enjoy again whenever my current supply expires. In this case, it has been a 1962-distilled, 1968-bottled Old Fitzgerald BIB from a Monticello decanter which is much livelier and dramatic in flavor than some Old Fitz BIB from 1958/1964 I shared at the Festival gazebo gatherings.
As I usually parcel out these bottlings parsimoniously, this was a rare opportunity to simply enjoy and ponder a fine old bourbon over a period of time. I fear its success might prompt me to attempt such a thing again. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif.
Anyway, this BIB has a rich vanilla egress, but light like a marshmallow, not heavy like a vanilla-cream, chocolate-drop candy. There is almost no hint of alcohol throughout, either in the nose or on the palate. The vanilla is pure, and not extract, and steps lightly but firmly from entry to finish, where the heat arrives as minty, menthol candy instead of alcohol burn.
There is the slightest hint of that candy-apple, cherry 'redness' which I so value in the finest bourbons, and it melds into peppermint taffy at the end that coats the mouth and tongue forever, it seems.
A postscript: while this is a certain relative to the '58/'64 Old Fitz previously mentioned, it is also identifiably and remarkably different from it -- which, it seems, demonstrates just how much our bourbon is hostage to the quality of 'cycling' it receives during the seasons of its existence in barrel. Both of these 6yo BIBs came from well-intact decanters/bottles -- with only three summers, 1962-64, in common -- but the latter has an obviously fresher, livelier flavor profile than the earlier one. Quite remarkable, then, is the bourbon/distillery/distiller who can maintain a narrow flavor profile over time and the vagaries of climate, oak and serendipity.

kbuzbee
10-13-2005, 05:10
Well said, old boy!! I was transported to a wonderful place where incredible Bourbon's flow...... I have experienced the same emotions but never come near the level of expression you achieve.



Ken

lakegz
10-13-2005, 05:29
im going through my entire collection tonight (dont worry, its small enough so ill live through the night http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif ).
Iim starting off with a gross Ballantines just to get warmed up before i move on to the better bourbon that i have. Im guessing ill have .2 ounces of my OGD 114, WT 12, WT8, Knob, JB black, Bookers, Spring 05 Stagg, Blantons, Elijah Craig 18, Van Winkle Rye, Four Roses SB, and my Van Winkle 10.
Ive never done such an extensive tastingin one night, im filled with anticipation! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif

kbuzbee
10-13-2005, 09:54
im going through my entire collection tonight (dont worry, its small enough so ill live through the night http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smilielol.gif ).
Iim starting off with a gross Ballantines just to get warmed up before i move on to the better bourbon that i have. Im guessing ill have .2 ounces of my OGD 114, WT 12, WT8, Knob, JB black, Bookers, Spring 05 Stagg, Blantons, Elijah Craig 18, Van Winkle Rye, Four Roses SB, and my Van Winkle 10.
Ive never done such an extensive tastingin one night, im filled with anticipation! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif



.2 ounces?? Or 2 ounces?? .2 is pretty small!!!!

I understand. If I try more than 3-4 in a night (really tasting, not just havin' a pour) my buds are usually shot by the end. I read about these masters (Chuck and his ilk) who can handle 6-12 different Bourbons in a session and I'm just in awe. (well,,,, very impressed anyway). But then, that's how you win the Bourbon taste-off...

Ken

idpa2000
10-13-2005, 14:50
Old Grand Dad BIB 100. This has been my EDP recently. Economics plays into my drinking but taste is never truly compromised. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

reg
10-14-2005, 18:40
Conecuh Ridge, my supply is running low. anybody in B'ham know where to find some. abc is out, but heard some package store might have some.

WAW
10-14-2005, 19:44
Check out this link on Conecuh Ridge...
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050216/whiskey.shtml

SBOmarc
10-24-2005, 14:33
Sampling from my very modest collection. Maker's, Knob Creek and a very recent gift of Rock Hill Farms. Not as tasty as my all time fav of Blanton's, but still excellent. I have an unopened bottle of Booker's...don't know if that proof number intimidates me or not. Any suggestions???